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LordReed:
Quote me where I called them devilish.

Your problem is you don't see that they are still practicing those things but because they called their own good and yours bad you've come to accept it as that.

Your problem is your love and use of half truths where you get to pretend as if you do not know that when we Nigerians say that customs and traditions are d3vilish, we are referring to those offensive parts which are naturally repulsive and repugnant eg cutting of flesh for the dead, drinking of the water of dead bodies, a sons inheriting his mother (father's wife) etc. which you atheists always always condemn declaring how you are not going to subscribe to them.

So, even you call those things devilish and pagany

Mattswaggz:
Chaii...laugh wan kill me.

I just told you that [b]the stance [/b]is that I don't believe what you claimed as the truth that's why I asked you for evidence.....so present it and stop beating about the bush.

See, "the stance". Not "my stance". So see you don't stand for anything and you don't want to stand for it.

Which is of course proof that you yourself already know that if you stand against me, you would fall and lose, So you are afraid of standing.

So your behaviour in seriously refusing to stand up clearly against me is already one proof and evidence in support of me.

So, proof 1 is already in the bag! 🤣🤣🤣

2) Yes, the thread shows that you did not believe my own report BUT you created more problems by raising and claiming "others made similar claims" and that you have not decided whether they are telling you the Truth or not

And meanwhile, I am not arguing with those "others" but with you who claimed an unresolved "others made similar claims".

So you see, you are the ones problem for if you did not claim that "others made similar claims", I would have responded in any way I deem fit to that stance.

But since you set me up to face "others made similar claims", I cannot proceed because this argument is with those "others...' but with you.

And you have led me on to the others without you taking a stand on them. So now I am interested in your stand on them and it is based on that I can argue.

So go and sort out your stance against those others then after that, you can come after me.

DeepSight:
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Lets start.

Your position is that anyone who is not a Christian is a pagan right?

Nope.

My position is simply that Christianity is not a pagan religion.

SkengRay:
I dey press your neck steady. This is What happens when you meet an enlightened person . Stick to Logic and counter What I said

See the looshun at its finest. 🤣🤣

Insalt and deflect all you want, the thread shows you Lost and are out of the game
🤣🤣. I will only be facing the new contestants Loser!!! 🤣🤣🤣

SkengRay:
Enough of the Projection, sentiments and emotions . Let's stick to Logic

You keep forgetting that this is a thread, everyone can see that you are projecting

Besides, You Lost man and you are out of the game. So, let me face the new contestants. 🤣🤣🤣

SkengRay:
Can you see the Dictionary definition baa?
That means Prayer is a Ritual, dropping money for Offering is a ritual, Paying tithe is a Ritual, Fasting is a ritual, water baptism is a ritual, Laying of Hands is a Ritual, Anointing oil is a ritual amigo. You guys are Ritualist by that definition.

🤣See this one thinks that I would have eternal argument with him especially on his Off Point argument. 🤣

Prayer and tithes is not even in the definition yet uncle put it. Buahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

SkengRay:
You're in Pains my Bro . The truth hurts and aches. You asked me to explain how God is not in any Religion and I explained with Clarity and used Baba Adeboye as an example . I was Expecting you to refute the biblical claims because I've more loaded

Says the one who has been crying since Wueeeeh, Wueeeeh, wueeeh 😭😭😭 change the argument up and down trying to find an argument you can win, yet finding none.

Till the point that you have now joined atheists (clear proof that the 2 of you are the same) and relying on them to attack me.🤣.

Clear,proof you are Loser and you have now run to your atheists daddies to save you from the pains of your Loses. 🤣🤣🤣

Boy, it won't work! It's sifia pains for you all the way 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

SpencerForbes:
Lolz 😂 I don’t believe in permutations and probability. I work hard and get results. Mark Zuckerberg does not post gospel on his page but he’s still richer than you😂 shame on you pastor😂😂😂
😂

What you believe is not the topic. So Off Point.

DeepSight:
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From your silly definition all other religions other than Christianity are pagan.
What a laugh.

Go and school yourself.

https://www.paganfed.org/paganism/

I have shown you that even your dictionaries, who are even big on research and argument landed on that definition.

But if you think they are wrong lo, come argue against me. Don't bring a book who cannot answer back.

Since you support that position, then make the necessary arguement in support and I'll argue from this side

SpencerForbes:
Anytime you lack points, you just start creating sentiments and start using intimidations. Hope you aren’t a pastor? Your members must really be worshipping in ‘spirit and in fear’

Anytime you do not have any counter, the next thing you do is to say "I lack points" when the thread show you not being able to say anything against my points. Rather it shows you attacking me (Ad hominem Fallacy) rather than you attacking the argument.

And yet, you wonder why God never answers your prayers.

highchief1:
we pannick because we don’t want to leave this world of cold Heineken and tight greezy pusies not because of heaven or hell.religion don upturn una Brian.

When have ever panicked when you were leaving a hotel after a night of forn and drinks?

Never!

But you will definitely panick when EFCC picks you up from that same hotel and room after all the forn and drinks.

So, you see, you are deceiving yourself

DeepSight:
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Stop joking abeg!
What kind of silly definition is that?

Dont you think at all?

Am I the one who defined it? Since dictionaries were first written, is that not the meaning of paganism?

All these arguments has been argued before the dictionary was created and it was seen and agreed that Christianity is not a pagan religion. The differences are too clear and wide, hence why the creators of the dictionary had to accept and state that Christianity is not part of paganism

DeepSight:
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Christianity is one hundred per cent pagan as well.

No it is not!

Even the dictionary acknowledges that it is not

Paganism
spiritual beliefs and practices other than Christianity. And ideological paganism is the practice of witchcraftcy

https://www.nairaland.com/1872499/paganism-witchcraft-religion#25765183

SkengRay:
I know it's your delusional types that will believe Papa Adeboye had Tea with God. God wont tell any to Stone non virgins Deuteronomy 22:20 or Killing a Stubborn son in Deuteronomy 21:18, Or allow Slavery in Exodus 21:20. So your inability to think for yourself and follow Blindly will always keep you enslaved. I know you will come up with defenses for this Bible verse

See it, now you have lost the matter not having any thing to say you are now raising new things to argue about talking about Adeboye drinking tea, thinking na so we go dey argue forever .

Many threads here have settled all those things and so you have nothing pagan.

SpencerForbes:
The bolded is where I always leave your arguments. You always end up bringing unverified information about people. How does Ned nwoko comes into this??

I’m sure you attend a brotherhood like Olumba or Ogboni cult because you believe you’re more righteous than others.

Shalom ✌️

Did I not mention that police and govt will always grant the prayers of Ned Nwoko than you? Or do you want to deny that you do not see the difference?

Secondly, the bold is always the reason for this topic for if you were rich in your ungodlin3s, you would have been an atheists overconfidently boasting that there is no God to answer prayers. But because you are poor you now want to eat your cake and have it.

tctrills:
But it is written that at death, the spirit goes back to God is God's présence the DSS and police custody?

Did you not see that there are 2 spirits?

One that is Emmanuel, Genesis 6:3/John 1:4 which is God and goes back to Him?

And the other which is the spirit of man aka soul that is in imprisoned by death who is to be relocated to the place of damnation or to the new heaven and earth that replaces this one.

SpencerForbes:
Does that applies to the police and government you mentioned because even non indigenes can give complaints as long as it’s uncomfortable to them and the society at large. Are you saying God operates on favoritism??

Ned Nwoko and you already show how police and govt operate.

While you already know that God is not partial and that the bible spells how He operates but typical, you people do as you please and then you come crying that God did not answer you

GanagiBitrus:
So MAY HIS GENTLE SOUL REST IN PEACE is a useless prayer. 🤔

Yep.
It's just a public show

JooEeL:
And after that, body decomposition.

Take several seats at d back bro.

Na you last come

3Si69:
Those who brought you the Bible and Qur’an are now stopping you from preaching in their countries because they know they sold lies to you and you believed them. .

Wrong.
It is because God has finished using them to ensure that everyone has heard, so that no man can claim "I did not know Lord".

Or did you not see a policeman shoot a woman dead for calling him a dem0n?

grandstar:
Doctrine of Hellfire is blasphemous. The wages sin pays is death.

The doctrine that all righteousness go to heaven isn't also scriptural.

And did you not hear that what we call death is actually "sleeping"?

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt

Joeboypondeck:
there's nothing like heaven or hell fire 🔥

A sinners wish!

If not, why you do you panick when death comes?

Adexvivacity:
This is what your religion told you as well and you accepted it as truth, same way their religion told them there are virgins. Everybody following one lie or the other.

Which means even you too are following your own Lie

LordReed:
It is so sad that Africans have been so indoctrinated that they see their own cultures and traditions as devilish while embracing the cultures and traditions of the ones who enslaved and subjugated them. Very sad.

Wrong!
Even the oyibos and the whole world practiced these same pagan practices and witchcrafts which today is called d3vilish.

And funny you should say this for you are the first to call those things d3vilish

Revelations shows that death vomits us up out int God's Court for judgement.

So, the death is exactly like DSS and police custody where all accused are first held and detained before being taken to court

SkengRay:
Clown But You Agreed to it when I said it. If God is Above Religion then he has no particular religion he mandates to be his Simple logic. Hiding your tears behind a The Emoji. 😂😂😂😂 funny Guy you are a Pagan like the others too End of Story.

Silly pagan.
Now you have moved post to I agree to God is above all religions forgetting that you are supposed to show how "God is above all religions" means "God belongs to a religion". So, you see, you are a Failure and clearly by your string and patterns of the failures you train, failure follows you everywhere.

SpencerForbes:
You stated a reason why. But has God ever given you a reason for the long wait or he just lets you keep praying and hoping, Waiting on the proverbial ‘God’s time’?

Because I know Him I always figured why there was a delay or why He won't answer a certain prayer or why He would never answer a certain prayer.

It's all in there in the bible

SkengRay:
Man you don't understand basic logic I doubt you ever attended tertiary institution if God is Above Religion then that means he doesn't belong to any Religion Simple. Stop doing Cocaine bro

So, as the ceiling in your house is above, so it does not belong to you and your house? Please stop disgracing yourself na.

Mattswaggz:
..The "Stance" is where is the evidence the person you're talking about presented to make Him and the truth he proclaimed(as you asserted) to be undisputable and different from all the others who also made similar claims?..

See, how silly you are.

The thread shows that I answered you leading the evidence to a known and popular Someone.

Then you raised "others made similar claims", not stating nor standing on whether you believe them or not. For of course if you did not believe them, then it means that you are silly for raising them up in the first place.

Meanwhile, you do not stand stating that you believe and accept their own stories and then the burden will be on me to prove why my own evidence is better than theirs.

So, you see the thread shows you have no stand or stance in this matter and that you are just hanging on the fence with all your unresolved issues.

And since I have been telling you to have a stand, you are running helter skelter blowing grammar and trying to change the argument.

You can't be undecided in a debate. It is either you are standing for something or standing against it. There is no sitting on the fence.

So go and sort out what your opinions and stance shall be on all the hearings you have heard.

Then, you can present your stand on them and after that, t you can come after me. If not it is clear that you are just CROOK who wants me to stand and reveal my position yet, you are running away from entering the ring and revealing yourself like everyone else has done.

SpencerForbes:
I send complaints to police and I send request to God. So what’s your point?🤷‍♂️ Or do I have to be filing complaints to God?

In a better environment, the government and police officials gives you reason why they can’t attend and if the matters reoccur they’ll likely to act if not they’ll be called out or fired. But can you say the same about God??

It is not everytime. Sometimes you hear them say "we are at liberty not to respond to your request". And that is why many of you pray to schools abroad half expecting them not to reply.

Same Law applies. The grant of any prayer is always at the liberty and will of the grantor. No be by force to grant your prayers

Akir2025:
..successfully after Engaging in menial jobs .With Good Results,Prayed ,Fasted ,A virgin, Haven't had sex for once , Prayed a lot ,A non Cultists.

It's after 6 years now ,No Good job ,All Opportunities turned Down.

Many interviews attended,It's been Failures .

Many Instances that brings lots of Confusions .

Visited 4 Notable mountains of Prayer for a Change .

DOES PRAYERS WORKS.

Sorry son, in addition to all that you know, you also have to read the seasons. And what did God Say about these times?

Especially when God Said

18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the Lord will not hear you in that day.

So, you are caught up in the circumstance. However, if truly you are walking in the way God dictated, then you would have seen the wonders and miracles that God drops .

But from your lamentations, it means you have not gotten it right.

And sorry son, there are many things to get right with God beyond keeping your virginity. And they are hard eg one of them is

Proverbs 23:4-5 (KJV): "Labour not to be rich: cease from thine own wisdom. Human beings already do not agree with this, so problem, dey.