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SpencerForbes:
I asked the same question last week and Christians were jumping everywhere without point. Wait till you’re called atheist and son of perdition😂 I had no choice but to leave the thread for them. They reason more with their emotions than logic.

Simple test.

Do you not send a prayer to the police and your govt?
Do they always answer you?

Yet, do you not see how they answer Ned Nwoko, MC oluomo & co?

There is no way anyone can answer this question stating yes or no.

SpencerForbes:
The truth is, those people weren't real Christians; those were the Catholicans just trying to grab more political power and control things.

More accurately, the Romans and the British did it

It was atheists who first started armed robberies, banditry, wars, government and taxes. (Banditry means taxes as you can see the bandits have done in the north)

And atheists are either those who were cast out by their homes and natural villages because they committed one big crime or those who ran away to escape judgement for the crimes they did.

And they ran to other lands where they met others like themselves and together they found a place to live away from people after forming an agreement that they would not harm each other. (Original of legal system).

And where they now started robbing travelers and anyone outside their camp. And when that one casted, they then had to start going to villages to rob and loot them.

And as you see from the north, the robbing was too much so the villages came to agreement with them to be giving them an agreed allocation so that the robbers would give them peace (Origin of Taxes)

And in addition to peace from robbing, the atheists robbers promised to protect the villages. And so you now can see how capitals and regions and territories were formed.

And other atheists also followed and did same. Even those from the first camp went out to create their own territory.

So this is how it all began.

SkengRay:
it seems you have Short term memory here it is Son. Everything I say is facts

Since when did "God is above all religions" mean "God belongs to a religion"? Boy, your head is leaking profusely

O what deadly blows have you received to the point you are leaking all over the place and now you are mixing up facts.

Boy, go and heal first. The beatings you have taken are too much.

SkengRay:
God is above all religions,

Since when did "God is above all religions" mean "God belongs to a religion"? Boy, your head is leaking profusely

O what deadly blows have you received to the point of leaking all over the place and now you are mixing up facts.

Boy, go and heal first. The beatings you have taken are enough.

Mattswaggz:
If you like quote DJT.... that's your problem...all I know is that you haven't answered the question I put forward and neither did you indicate that I should disclose my stance (which should even be after answering the question) before you'll answer so run along kid and leave talk for matured men...

Do you hear yourself? I should first answer you before you take a stand? So, as I am in war with you, I should shoot first; you my opponent (enemy), it is after that, that you would take a position? And that makes sense to you, abi?

If you are serious you already know that the proper thing is for you to have a position and stance before you enter a debate.

You can't be undecided in a debate. It is either you are standing for something or standing against it. There is no sitting on the fence.

So go and sort out your opinions on all the hearings you have heard, then take a stand on them. It is after that, that you can then come after me.

SkengRay:
I never insulted you amigo you already shot yourself in the foot by agreeing That God doesn't belong to Any Religion
And Secondly to the sacrifice and burnt Offerings to God. You are a Pagan and your God is a pagan too just the all other Traditional Religion. Game over you lost .

You words and intentions are there denying it, won't remove them

Secondly, where did I say "God belongs to a religion? Now you are gasping for air. Hoo hee Hoo hee

And lastly, your repeating yourself just proves how desperate you are in clear proof you looost after all your tricks of trying to turn it against me, you still Failed. Hehehehehe

Felimax:
God did not bring sorrow!
Leave God away from your predicament.

Who even told you there is God?

Why do over 5 million sperm cells have to die just for a egg to be fertilized in your mother's womb? What is the wisdom behind that?

Clearly there is God, but how does sperm and egg enter into this especially as everyone is happy with their baby?

Melchizzedek:
I have wondered why God being preach to us as a our father can't just say let there be no more sorrow on earth. Even when people cry to their Government, they tend to listen and do something. Why is God not doing something about the sorrow and pain on earth. Why do we have to go heaven before we can enjoy? Is God really ruling this world? Why does he allow the devil to have his way? Will God leave human to burn? Why are we here on earth? What's our purpose? I don't seem to fathom answers to this questions.

Did He not even tell you how to have no sorrow?

Yes, He did.

Did you listen?

No.

So stop disturbing Him.

Mattswaggz:
Running away you soon....you asked if I have heard and I told you I did with tons of other similar ones as well....then I further indicated that you should answer the question I put forward or explain how asking me another question which I still provided an answer for answers my question from your own end and the best you could come up with is some flawed excuse to run away. .

No problem though.... Running away is allowed....Lol.

Don't be silly. how do you accuse me of running away from an argument when you do not have any stand on the argument?

The thread shows you said you have heard about others and their stories but did you tell us what Stand (belief) and conclusion you came to showing that you have subjected them to proper scrutiny and evaluation?

No! You haven't.

In all these, have you told us what basis you are standing on in which to participate in the debate?

Again, no! You haven't

So how can you participate in a debate when you have not even taken a firm position on the issue so that everyone would know which side you are standing on in determining who stood and who fell?

So, it is you who is running from the debate as you refuse to show us who you are and what you believe in.

Clearly you are a man who stands for on nothing

If you can't stand the heat, the kitchen is not for you. Harry Truman

Every man eventually is backed up to the wall of faith, and there he must make his stand. Ezra Benson

So are you going to take a stand or you going to run away blowing grammar?

SkengRay:
This Guyyyy . Your fantasy World never cease to amaze me You don't want to See the Real World Clearly you just want to Hold to your illusions as Coping Mechanism . Brody's Talking about Levites . In African Traditional Religion Babalawos are also Ordained by God to Carry out Sacrifices too infact you can say they are the modern Day Levites . So You can't deny the Fact that you're Pagans bro. .

See, you cannot even counter it, to the point that you started abusing me and saying that your babalawos were ordained by God when no one saw that happen. Hehehehe

Meanwhile, the difference is very clear that you are pagan Amorite and enemi of God and that is why you have been attacking me and Christianity trying to transfer all your the loozions on me, seeing that you had nothing valid to say after all your best efforts and crooked tricks.

You still lost! hehehehehe .

SkengRay:
Okay . Your tears Continues now since you want to Deny Reality. What's the Difference of Your God in the 1st testament that Accepts Sacrifices and burnt offerings with African Traditional Religion that does the same to their God too. Can see you guys are birds of a feather

Now you are talking.

1) Since you recognise that it is God they are directing it to, of which there is only One, it means therefore, that it means He gets to lay what He wants.

And you can see that the old testament says that it is God The Alll Mighty, Who dealt with Egypt that till tomorrow Egypt does not like to challenge Israel and it is Him Who gave those Commands in what is called the old testament..

And it is He Who Said all others are witchcraft, idealism and paganism as He gets to choose and dictate that He does not want.

2) Secondly, it is not everyone who is to do those activities only a cleansed and purified Levite, which is why as you see now that there is no Levite, not to talk about a purified Levite, we Christians are far from paganism.

So, you see, the difference is over clear.

Mattswaggz:
I've also heard about someone who said he was sent by the Lord in heaven and his spiritual book fell from heaven as well.... I've also heard about someone who said there is no such thing as "the creator" and many others.......so how does your question answer mine and where was the evidence the person came with to substantiate his claim and automatically null the others ones I've heard?. .

Then you have a lot of hearings to sort out. And neither is it my place to sort out and nullify all your hearings.

What I nullify and challenge is people's beliefs.

So when you have sorted out your hearings and chosen a belief, then you can come challenge me

SkengRay:
Man it's your Delusions for me. Outburst? That was you when use denounced my Facts without any Logical statement you started wailing about being better than me . You have been defeated already come up with with logical claims. You lost already isn't Roman Catholic one of the oldest Churches of not the oldest that is where other churches evolved from? The Romans have the biggest influence on Christianity . You're a Pagan Son

See the loo! Child, you clearly don't real eyes that this is a thread which means that everyone can see you were crying about me being better than you as you were yapping off point trying to change the argument, since you real eyes that you could not find any valid thing to say.

Which is why you are now in desperation trying to use the Roman Catholic even after you have been told that everyone has since knew and settled that the Romans and catholics are pagans and are not really Christians and their pagan practices have been separated from Christianity. So, it's just you and your paganism.

josielewa:
I HAVE SEEN YOUR QUOTE IN YOUR PROFILE, NO POINT CONTINUING THIS ARGUMENT
EVERYTHING I SAID AND EXPLAINED TO YOU IS MY FACTS, SO I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS ARGUMENT OF YOURS. MY POINT STILL REMAINS THE SAME, UNCHANGING...NICE ARGUING WITH YOU...SHALOM

You have seen my quote at the bottom and you can see that you are not able to present any further counter argument because that quote at the bottom is A LAW which cannot be beaten if and when your ground of argument is Wrong!

So, if and when you have a further counter argument, hola me and I would very much like to check and confirm it. It was nice fencing with you too. It was very interesting and exciting.

Mattswaggz:
When did this happen...who is the person in question and did he bring any form of evidence like videos or something?. .

Ain't you heard about a certain Person Who came down from heaven to be born as by a Virgin and was murdered and yet He got out from death and lived again and went back to heaven in the presence of witnesses? Don't you know Who that is?

SkengRay:
You've switched from being logical to being Sentimental and defensive. You just Proved my Points saying you're better than me what makes you different from the mob in John 8 Is this the Christianity Jesus taught Y'all . And the[b] Claims in Roman Paganism in Christianity[/b] Why not carry out your Research you've lost this Argument Already everything I Said there is factual. You have nothing Tangible to bring up I noticed your Alternate Accounts too That's what being Conscious is . Peace be unto You Son

It is you who went sentimental and emotional as betrayed by the outbursts of your post as you confessed your guilts and your personal problem/hatred for me.

Meanwhile I was only pointing them out.

And the difference between me and the mob is that you are the one who reported and judged yourself without me saying a word while I just sat back and enjoyed your performance

And now you are moving the argument to Rome's paganism meanwhile it is already known that Catholics and Romans are pagans and not exactly Christians.

So, there is nothing to argue here as clearly you are the last to know.

josielewa:
YOU ARE JUST BEATING AROUND THE BUSH., WHY DO ANIMALS FEAR IF YOU WANT TO KILL THEM, I.E DOGS, THEY FEAR BECAUSE THEY CHERISH THIS PHYSICAL REALITY AND THEY ARE NOT READY TO BE DETACHED FROM IT, SIMPLE AS ABC..

You are the one now repeating yourself.

I already pointed out that that is the only time they fear,and we can see that they are not afraid about where there spirit is going but about the fact that you are killing them

Meanwhile, if you allow them live naturally and die naturally, you would see that they do not have any fear at all.

Unlike man, most of whom die without being killed suddenly, and we all see the desperate eyes wishing for death not to come and the great trembling fear they go through.

So, your point does not stand at all

josielewa:
SEEM YOU DONT UNDERSTAND MY POINT, FEAR COMES FROM THE FACT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO THE UNKNOWN ACCORDING TO WHAT THEIR RELIGION HAS TAUGHT THEM WHILE ALIVE...

When you are going to the unknown university, or going to a new job's office or new country or even your first marriage, is it chilling fear that you feel even when all these where unknown to you?

No!

It is even excitement, enthusiasm and joy.

But, if the police write you inviting you to their station over a complaint made against you by your office, is it not fear that you must have

Yes?

Why?

Because there is something there to fear.

And in all these things there is no religious dogma mentioned. It is just a plain natural law and phenomenon.

And that is why your does not stand and can never stand.

SkengRay:
..God Showed himself to Israel Alone, Christianity is the only way to God's and anything Traditional is evil and Abomination. But What your myopic point of view don't know is that Christianity is built from Paganism. Christianity is a mix of Jewish Belief , Greek Philosophy and Roman pagan Tradition.
The Christmas you celebrate is Roman Saturnalia, the Easter is the Romans Ishtar fertility festival. Even the Worship day was moved to Sunday for Romans Sun God you can go and verify. I just want to to see beyond the Illusion that's all. You believe the Whole world is Pagan except from Christianity, if it's not Christianity then it's pagan.

That's the sense of Morality you uphold in you believe you are better than everyone else because you follow some written laws. Two days ago you gave an example you said and I quote "Whereas if you had sense you would have seen that you too have heard about hell and yet you carry hook up, up and down just like everybody else". You don't even know me but you made this Projection. You believe your moral makes you better than those that carry prostitute and the prostitutes themselves no You're not. Your entire mentality sounds exactly like the people who tried to stone the woman in John 8.
They believed they were defending God’s purity, following Moses’ law, and rejecting ‘abominations.’
But Jesus didn’t support their purity obsession.
He exposed it as hypocrisy.
He saved the woman they tried to condemn.
If your version of ‘God’s clean way’ makes you behave like the people Jesus corrected, then it’s not Jesus you’re following it’s self-righteousness. Peace Be Unto You.

See all the jumbled talk and desperate accusations all because you can not find any reasonable thing to say about your own fallings.

For it is clear that you are a paganist and that I am indeed better than you. Not to talk of your twisted understanding of John 8 where everyone in the world saw that those people were not representing God nor the Law He gave Moses.

As you see Christians celebrate with everybody whether Muslims or govt vacations, birthdays, weddings, car purchase, house purchae etc as long as it is a good thing.

It is not the Romans who own the Sun of the day called Sunday which you see everyday Christians go to church. Christmas is about the celebration of a very special birth immaterial of whether it clashes with Oro festival or Roman festival. That one is their own Christmas is our own.

So basically, you are just waiting because your conscience has judged you and your paganism.

josielewa:
,.... family, friends you are going to be leaving in this crazy world.., its a hard thing detaching from these

Where you not happy to loose your ex girlfriends and so called friends and useless family members?

As I said, it does not hold.

josielewa:
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Imagine you and other people walking in a quiet environment filled with all kinds of dangers, when you are a going with people, your fear level might not even show, but immediately everyone leaves and you are alone facing that kind of danger, your fear level automatically is raised to hundred because people you are attached to are gone and you are alone not knowing where you go next or what happens next

Do we not already live in such a world and yet we were very happy keep out such people?

As I said, it does not hold at all

brain54:
What benefit is that to him...


Anyway that's his problem. As for kobojunkie I don't even know what to say. Maybe I would hit my head on a rock instead of a tree. Especially to think that I once playfully told him I'd marry him.

Yuck!

😱😱

Anyway, you did not know

KidFromForeign:
What does fear and great chill have to do with proving the existence life after death?
So because you fear death and h ell,it's now a proof of life after death?

If you are giving the option of traveling to Abuja by road from Benin, would you have chills and fear?

Yes!

Why?

Because of what is waiting for you there.

Unlike if they say you should travel by road from Houston to Georgia, you would not be afraid

Why?

Because the thing you fear in Lokoja is not there on the Houston expressway. It's as simple as that

AngelahFlo:
I'd rather rebuke the Evil so it doesn't keep spreading tall tales around. Thanks for drawing my attention to this. I doubt if he'll respond to our replies. If he does then he's really far gone.

He will respond. That is how far gone he is.

KidFromForeign:
Nobody knows what happens after death and that is why anyone fears...

Not True.
You fear death because there is something fearful in it that is waiting there

KidFromForeign:
Your Bible and whatever is written there is not a proof of anything.

A book of talking Donkeys and Snakes?

That is your proof?

🙆🏽

Whether you like the facts it gives proof of or not, It is proof of anything in it exactly how you present textbooks, magazines, printout etc.
So say something that makes sense, if any

SkengRay:
Well there's nothing bad in embracing another person culture you are going off point here. The problem here is Self Denigration which means looking down and rejecting your culture background. You adopting the belief that your culture is backward and evil because of Religion and western influence is Appaling.

No where did I say backwards. You obviously do not know that the British, French, Romans all practiced witchcraft and rituals exactly like the African. And they still do even today only that it is extremely hidden covering it by trying to distract us to look at science (sleight of hand trick).

Nevertheless, they too are pagans and look the whole world are pagans whether you look at Australia or Japan, or Russia or America or Brazil or Isreal in their rebellion to God.

So, I choose the clean God Way, which God gave Isreal, which they rejected.

Right from my birth when I sa all the pagan paraphernalia and all the pagan things that people do, I hated it to my soul and never wanted to be a part of it as they made me feel somehow. Only to now grow up and know that that somehow feeling, is the the thing called abomination.

So, it is only natural that I must live in Christianity. No other way is acceptable

AngelahFlo:
You're right and it's sad because to his kind has been given a reprobate mind given to delusions which is why even with our clear answer to his post he may still not see the truth. It's so sad.

A person cussed with a reprobate mind has to do only evu and lying perversions. Truth cannot be with him again

AngelahFlo:
You don't need to use language on him. It's not needed. It's strange that some people can read an account of something that's so profoundly explained in plain English and still see what their mind points them towards. It's so sad.

Remember power of the tongue. The ivu has to be cusde so that evu plagues the ivu. Why do you think that the world is stopping our mouths?

It's because when we Speak in righteousness, God moves

So don't protect the evu, cuss it and expose it

AngelahFlo:
Thank Sir for helping me make him see. The truth cannot be argued. It's so absolute that to try and argue it is to make a mockery of one's self.

He's Saytan indwelt. The only thing he came to do here is to do as saytan did to Eve. The punishment of the serpent is what afflicts him