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Kobojunkie:
What you just typed makes an even worse case for the existence of such a group. Why should consent be needed from such a group on such things?

Correct

mrvitalis:
Women given independence to rule and judge their matter... Isn't that what feminists wants?

Is that not what being an adult is about?

Do you not have and exercise the freedom to rule and judge your matters?

Kobojunkie:
. You mean the same gang of women who are known to bully women into submitting to the will of their husbands, regardless of how unjust the situation? Come on! I saw a documentary sometime ago of how that group has been used in many cases to silence justice, all in the name of supposedly keeping peace and tradition. 😩😩😩

You can say it again.

A case of an oppressor praising his henchman

mrvitalis:
Someone tell me which society in Igbo land is more powerful than "Umuada"

Even eze in council would never challenge umuada

No tribe reverence woman like igbos

This is Off Point.
Even that one sef is not true as we can all see that this is just a strategy to deceive your women into feeling that you people are not fully oppressing them by feigning respect.

mrvitalis:
No where in igbo culture does it say your fathers property can't be shared to female daughters

Yet, many daughters do not get anything from their father.

mrvitalis:
Your father can share family land to female daughters simple because they don't belong to him... He is given in trust by the community and only men of that community can hold land in trust

Who owns the supposed family land?

Even at that the father's personal land and properties are not shared to the daughters.

chiagozien:
Are Igbos looking for members?


You are free to go where women are the ones feeding their husbands, the good reason inheritance should be given to only women over there.

So also does she have a right to stay and change the bad traditions you people do.

It is exactly as it was the tradition of the whites to take you as slaves and you all cried out screaming that this is wrong.

So also is this Igbo female children disinheritance practice wrong.

immortalcrown:
The same way your husband's assets belong to you if he dies before you, and your sons will inherit your assets. So, what exactly is your point?..

Find another thing to say. It's like saying because I got a car I have my own and therefore I have no right to partake in the sharing of my father's property.

Does my brother not also have his own car? Therefore why is he given extra while I am kicked out? Oya explain.

The umuada part is Off Point.

SpencerForbes:
However, it's essential to distinguish between Punishment and Consequences:
- Children might face natural consequences of their parents' actions, like emotional trauma or financial hardship.
- Parents' sinful patterns can influence their children, potentially leading them to repeat similar mistakes.

The concept of *Generational Influence* is significant:
- Exodus 20:5 mentions God visiting "the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations," but this is often understood as referring to those who continue in the same sinful patterns, not innocent children being punished.

In summary, while children aren't held accountable by God for their parents' sins, they may experience consequences and should seek redemption and a righteous path through faith.

You are not out of order here.

People do not understand that all the natural laws you people know and call legal are all God's for Law, comes from God.

And The Law Says "it is the person who commits an offence that is to be charged and punished for that offences" principal offender.

However, some offences are so great that the punishment of same enters into a persons DNA. And that is why when such offences/crimes are committed, people naturally cursse the offenders children. For it means that that offence is so great that it cannot be remedied by the offender but that it travels through the offender down to his children. And if it is still not enough, it will go to the next generation until it is remedied and discharged.

And that is what we see affirmed by God in Exodus 20 when God just warned Isreal not to serve other gods and they agreed only for them to turn around and to worship and idol and even declare that it was the idol who brought them out of Egypt.

Haba, there is no way that offence won't travel through several generations before it extinguishes.

And that is the same thing we see play out on David because of his sin of murdering Uriah and taking his wife.

Modified. And oo I see that the is the same thing that happened to them Adam. And Adam's own is the greatest even for it has even passed four generations and still counting till tomorrow.

SpencerForbes:
I’m very sure you know Mohammad Abacha also assisted abacha in laundering funds. According to law he is an accomplice🤦‍♂️
Debating you is always stressful cos of lack of research and I don’t work like that.
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No issue here. We all know that since he is alleged to be an accomplice then he ought to have been prosecuted. But you know Nigeria.

And anyway you are not opposing my point rather you are pointing out that the child is also complicit like the father, so you have nothing to stress about here.

But, you have to bring your bestest game if you are going to debate against me.

AngelahFlo:
Good evening guys
I remember vividly when ChatGPT4 was released by OpenAI as a revolutionary tool that'll shape the way we share and process information...

.Lately Google has updated their search engine to now include AI mode. What this means is that we'll no longer be able to search for information the traditional way but will be interacting with their search engine's built in AI.[/color][/b] At the moment the update is operational only in US as a test and model project before it becomes public. ...

To me, its still the same Google. As long as it brings out the information I typed for, whether it writes A.I or not. It is just an electronic dictionary/encyclopaedia

kppo:
No. You are mistaken. God said He will not punish the son for the sins of the father as it is in the verse below:

[[Ezekiel 18:20 KJV]] The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

You can read the whole chapter 18 of the book of Ezekiel for greater clarity on the matter.

Exactly.

People just want to pretend as if they don't know that there are some offences that are so great that the punishment of it must extend to their children

SpencerForbes:
I guess you’re not a Christian but follow a Jewish order

Whether anyone believes or not, it is proven. Eg Anini's children, Sani Abacha's children, the children of Wike policemen are examples

SpencerForbes:
I’ve agreed. Let’s keep the others for Sunday. You’ll be shocked. I’ve got a lot for you.

On that day, you won’t even call me ivul
You’ll call me divul😂
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So you see I am not wrong in noting that you are son of Belzi.

And obviously by your confession above it means that Sunday is going to be your day of Lies

SpencerForbes:
I’ve heard all you said but please where was God coming from again

When you see Him, ask Him.

SpencerForbes:
Now let me give you a tip of the iceberg why God wasn’t in heaven(directly)...

With this you have admitted that God was not in heaven in Genesis, so my point is settled.

SpencerForbes:
The Bible paints a vivid picture of who'll be part of the new heavens and new earth. According to Scripture, the candidates include:..
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No problem here.

SpencerForbes:
Very funny cos you have to result to insult to gain cheap points but I don’t work like that🥱
That’s the main reason I’m a Nigerian. That’s why I’m on Nairaland 😁

I’ll be expecting and reading your future posts😉
Shalom🍹
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It is losers who resort to insalts and it is you who is trying to look for cheap points by throwing low blows and twisting and and trying to lie by alleging things I did not say.

All I did was to point out that I have noted that you have transformed from normal human being to ivul spirit and moved on to make my reply, which you cannot show where I said "I can determine His movement"

SpencerForbes:
It’s just getting started 😂😂😂
You called me son of beelzebub and I’m coming with the heat. (Psalms 139:7-19, Jeremiah 23:24) states about God being omnipotent and omnipresent so are you telling me you can determine his movements?

If you are truly not a son of belzi, state where I said I can determine His movement especially as this is off point?

SpencerForbes:
Let’s talk about God immanence. His activeness in creation. ( acts 17:28, collosians 1:17)
God has been active since creation and he’s still working.

This will be off point and is off point!

SpencerForbes:
Now I’m getting started. Let’s talk about the new heaven and earth.

Certainly off point!

AntiChristian:
So where exactly is analism in the verse?

The verse says that we are controlled by nature. And by nature no man chooks the anus and by nature no woman lets the man chook the anus.

But because of monkey see, monkey do

BlackfireX:
So what is your argument?
Let's dialogue like Matured men


Shukraaaan

I really do not have any argument to make other than I first agreed with the op but when I checked your objection I see that the Truth shows that Jesus's murder and resurrection took place around the Passover. And Passover takes place around March - April, thereby proving why Easter is around that time.

So, even though I don't like Catholic church and in suspicious of each of their beliefs and doctrines, however, in this case they are in tandem with the Bible

SpencerForbes:
You’re throwing emotional tantrums. You made a statement that no one is going to heaven, I brought some verses and another posted said we’re going to heaven. I called you to counter and you yourself brought verses that still talks about heaven.

None of the verses said anything about any man going to heaven and even you acknowledged that which is why you rather asked a question saying "According to Matthew 5, where are those persecuted in spirit going🤔"

Which I answered that has brought us to this juncture.

So, no where did bring verses saying that we’re going to heaven.

SpencerForbes:
Then you brought your “poem book😂” when I asked for evidence...

Which "poem book"?

SpencerForbes:
Now what I’m expecting is for you to prove a fact that indeed God wasn’t in heaven while he created the earth. Biblical facts 🥱

And you brought this as an argument. How does this prove the point?

I was expecting verses I can work with but you don’t have verifiable evidences and you argue with emotions.

I’ll still advise you to do your research and come back with more facts because I’m coming with evidences to debunk your claims and school you so you stop deceiving the masses.

Then go argue with Genesis 1 for it clearly shows that God was coming from somewhere and MOVING when He decided to create heaven and earth.

Which I brought to prove that God's House and many mansions is wider and greater than heaven and earth which only began in Genesis 1 and Genesis 1 also shows that God was coming from somewhere and MOVING when He stopped and ordered the building of this house called heaven and earth.

It's as simple as that and the mere fact you can't rebut it, is proof that it is true.

SpencerForbes:
I told you it was grammatically wrong but you acted smart. Now rephrase it so I can get your point.

What is there to be smart about when I did not even see it?

Would it not had been better if you had presented the grammatical error for me to clarify?

Clearly, hearing all these I say is making you mard, angry, hostile and unreasonable and there isn't anyway that I can continue this discussion.

And anyway, I have already clarified and made my point. And in case you still missed it because of your issues, I say it again the issue I was referring to the point that heaven and earth are usually used together in the bible eg Psalm 135:6 Isaiah 66:1, etc Bye

BlackfireX:
Calm down habibi

You said paganism in Christianity as per Easter...am I right?


So I asked do you believe that Jesus rose from the dead?

Now you have answered..Yes!

If his resurrection falls on to the day of paganism does it nullifies the power of Christ resurrection?

YASUA AL MASSAIH IBN YAHWEH

Ah! Lovely argument. You are most correct. It does not.

But however, there is no "if" in Truth, hence the need for clarity. And in the absence of certainty, bad people can bend Truths into Lies.

SpencerForbes:
They’ll give them the kingdom to do what?

Another question you cannot answer if you do not know what heaven is or what the kingdom of heaven is.

SpencerForbes:
How can you give someone a house he isn’t going to live cos that place is talking about heaven.

Does that not tell you therefore that He is given a house that is not going to be destroyed?

And did Christ say "heaven" or "a place"? To think that you cited Him saying heaven, yet refuse to take note that this time He Said "a place".

SpencerForbes:
He was taking a stroll means he was outside right😂
Have you taken a stroll outside your building before, does that mean he was outside your compound?

You already know that strolls are taking outside house and houses, so what's your point?

SpencerForbes:
Your second point proof you’re only working with fallacy and hear say rather than evidences. You’re telling tales so there’s no difference between what you just said and the homer. It’s surprising you said you’re a lawyer and you’re trying to proof a point without evidences. I don’t subscribe to hear say and when you have evidences, we can debate😎
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Which second proof did I give? Clearly you going screws because you see that you have nothing reasonable to say, if not you would have remembered that your questions are standing on what you call hearsay evidence.

Clearly you have become malicious and your argument is no longer going to be reasonable, truthfull and bonafide.

SpencerForbes:
I’m talking about the grammar construction and you’re talking about baby steps🍹
Reread and modify what you wrote so we on earth can read it.

I don't understand. You said you did not get my last point which is "And after that they still have to figure out what earth means especially when the bible they are used together".

And so, I am saying put away this point so that you can concentrate on getting the other points you get. Or is this not what you said?

SpencerForbes:
I don’t get your last point🤔
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Don't worry, take your baby steps so that you are not confused

SpencerForbes:
Dtruthspeaker what do you have to say about this😁

Not many have figured out what heaven is as they still going through the process of sorting out the different references of the word heaven.

And after that they still have to figure out what earth means especially when the bible they are used together.

tctrills:
1 Peter 1. 19-20
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Revelation 13.8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Read and stop making noise. Even before the world was created, it was decided that Christ was going to die for us.

Repeating yourself proves you have No Thing.

I have pointed out the issues in Revelations 13: 8, and you could not answer, so you ran to 1 Peter 20, and I showed you that 1 Peter 19 showed you that you are wrong as that phrase is always separate from the silly thing you think.

None of the verses support it and your thinking is fuelled by your wishes and by your pastors constant restatement of error.

The phrase only seeks to remind us of John 1.