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SpencerForbes:
Dtruthspeaker what do you have to say about this😁

Not many have figured out what heaven is as they still going through the process of sorting out the different references of the word heaven.

And after that they still have to figure out what earth means especially when the bible they are used together.

tctrills:
1 Peter 1. 19-20
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Revelation 13.8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Read and stop making noise. Even before the world was created, it was decided that Christ was going to die for us.

Repeating yourself proves you have No Thing.

I have pointed out the issues in Revelations 13: 8, and you could not answer, so you ran to 1 Peter 20, and I showed you that 1 Peter 19 showed you that you are wrong as that phrase is always separate from the silly thing you think.

None of the verses support it and your thinking is fuelled by your wishes and by your pastors constant restatement of error.

The phrase only seeks to remind us of John 1.

BlackfireX:
simple Question Habibi

Did jesus rose from the dead?

I don't understand your question. Which one is Habibi?

Oh so you are Muslim and I thought you might be Catholic.

And please, English is deceitful when words are improperly used so
do you mean to say that did Jesus rise from the dead?

If this is your question, then the answer is Yes!

But how is this connected to the topic?

All of them.
Because of this book I no really read the Bible throughout primary and secondary school

And it is even more of the pictures than the words. But after I tire from the pictures then I read the words. I think it was even the book I used to learn to read

SpencerForbes:
According to Matthew 5, where are those persecuted in spirit going🤔

Matthew 5vs 10
Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven

Now is that talking about angels or spirit or humans🤔

The Bible said their "own is the kingdom of heaven" which means that it is given to them.

And not that they are going there.

So the question is "what is the kingdom of heaven that is given to them"? (And that one is another class for you to investigate.)

SpencerForbes:
You said a new heaven and earth but Jesus clearly stated “in my father’s house, which means he has been living there. So will you tell me you can be living in a place thats yet to exist🤔

The question is what is Jesus's Father's House and His Father's many mansions considering the fact that both of were Living Somewhere even before heaven and earth were even created?

So, you see Jesus' Father and His Son Live are not limited to living in heaven as you want to say because the bible Said that heaven is His Abode. And thus, they can Live in other places we do not know and have never heard about as shown in Genesis 1 where we see God was moving and taking a stroll when He decided to create this world called heaven and earth.

tctrills:
Your problem is that you don't read your bible, you only rely on 2 to 3 memory verses.
Now explain this verse below.
Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

What do you understand "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

Who or what is "from the foundation of the world"?

A Is it the lamb?
B Or the slaying?
C Or the book of life?
D Or all that dwell upon the earth?

Revelations is about the beginning of the world to the end so that verse is talking about the end of "all that dwell upon the earth from the foundation of the world" as it clearly said at the beginning of the verse.

Reminds me of Sona of Prison Break

SpencerForbes:
Talk about Abraham’s bosom🤔

What is the idea about Abraham's bosom in that context?

Answer: A Good Place.

So, what is the good place God has in store?

Answer: a new heaven and earth better than this one that we have known.

So for those of us who have really enjoyed this one, so you can imagine how super super enjoyment will be in the upgraded one coming? Whoo! I Can't wait to be there.

SpencerForbes:
Explain John 14: 2-3 in my fathers house🤔

Matthew 5: 3- 12 the beatitudes ( theirs is the kingdom of heaven)🤔

John 14: 2-3: the statement "to prepare a place for you." already tells that we would be leaving and vacating and abandoning this present place.

So now the question is is "to where?".

And John did not answer this question but Revelations does clearly showing that the "to where" is a new heaven and earth which replaces this one that we would be vacating like when a building is about to be demolished.

Mathew 5 says "theirs is the kingdom of heaven" but does it say that man is going to heaven? No.
Go check, do you see anywhere in the bible which states and restates that man is going to heaven? No.

Therefore, the question is "what is heaven or what does heaven mean?" especially as we see that both heaven and earth where created to be together though separated. And heaven and earth are nearly always used together which is further confirmed and sealed by the fact that both of them expire together being further replaced by a new heaven and earth.

So, if you think people would go to heaven, it therefore means that they would expire when that heaven is wiped out as Revelations shows us that it is only death and h3ll and the sea who submit their inmates to God on the Day God's Court is convened that is Judgment Day.

So, you see, no man is going to heaven but the bible has explicitly told us the places man is going to

SpencerForbes:
Someone said we ain’t going to heaven. I was going to do a research on that. That there’s only a new world and hell

How true is that

It is True. Only about a tenth of humanity may make the new world aka new heaven and earth and the remainder are heading to hellfaya

BlackfireX:
To the Op I want to ask...did JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD?

You are getting at Abib which the bible and Isreal places in March and April. Good one.

But I have observe thst Catholics ways especially the parts that people always object to are all standing on "Truth". And they were the no 1 masters in the use of half truths.

But
A Lie, is a Lie.
A white Lie is a Lie.
A half truth is a Lie
A hidden truth is a Lie
A Lie by omission is a Lie
A Lie is a Lie

tctrills:
Actually no.
The bible clearly states that Jesus Christ is the Lamb slain before the foundation of the earth. This shows that the original plan even before the world was created was for Jesus Christ to come and die for our sins. This wouldn't have been necessary if Adam and Eve had not eaten the fruit.

Mr twister. Always twisting the bible.

Before Jesus came, was it not truly the unblemished lamb and doves that was the original plan that God laid down for them to be used to save mankind?

Kai, you be everlasting Sathan pikin and you can never change just like him. Which means that 2 of you will have the same end

tctrills:
You are right if they had not eaten the fruit, the would have lived forever. Also, if God had not created the fruit and placed it in the garden, they would have lived forever.
No good parent will place what will end up hurting their kids just right next to the kids.

You do not want to go to helfaya, yet you say this.

That aside, right next to your babies are gas burners, knives, forks, electric wires, freezers, glasses and other dangerous, stuff. Even you keep dangerous animals like dogs,cats, snakes yet those babies grew up from babyhood to adulthood, going on to make their own homes for another set of babies to live in.

Not to talk of your adult relations whom you bring from your villages to live with you in the city where they too finally left to their own houses.

So, clearly you have proven God right that it is very possible to live with dangerous items and not be harmed.

And anyway this is not the topic so stop trying to CHANGE POST!

And thank God you have admitted that they would have lived forever if they had not disobeyed, which is the point.

AntiChristian:
Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.

How is the above even related to the thread?

The connection is that analism was taught to people by showing them. And people are monkey see, monkey do

tctrills:
A few things here, no verse in the bible says that God’s original purpose, for man to live forever in the garden of eden.
And by that logic, you are calling God a failure because he was unable to achieve his plan.

Did you not read the word "lest you die"? Does that word not tell you that if they had never eaten the fruit they would have lived forever?

fuckJones:
You are wrong Mr, God original plan for man is to stayed on earth and take care of the earth according to the bible

And Revelation shows that man will always stay on the earth even though there is a new heaven. So no one is going to heaven but rather we are going to a new heaven and earth which replaces this present one.

Righteousness2:
CELEBRATE THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF THE KING OF Kings AND LORD OF lord's, JESUS CHRIST and wit all theseNknsense hullabaloo shenanigans that have absolute nothing to Benefit you here on Earth or in Eternity.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

Like God and dagon, Christianity and paganism do not stand together.

muyico:
no one single bible verse to prove it??

Is Easter in the bible?

The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable.

James A. Garfield

Ehen, Catholic church again? Men, this people really ruled and controlled their paganism.

SpencerForbes:
Keep your fingers crossed 🤞 I’ll be talking on hell as a symbol vs literal😁
Another myth to be debunked 😂
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Ok. I will be there by God's grace. Don't make the post long with unnecessary talk.

SpencerForbes:
This one strong oo😂😂😂. I’ve heard Mr preacher. Keep the rest of your mention for those that believed in immediate death and the remaining for Sunday.
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What is immediate death? Anyway, till Sunday. I pray that I won't be too busy and that it would truly be interesting and challenging to miss and not the normal very boring and inspiring thing people post here. I almost did not come to this section yesterday.

SpencerForbes:
I won’t engage you again cos you’re funny😂😂 was Esau before or after the coming of Christ😂😂😂😂
You’re funny😂😂😂😂
Even Peter said Ananias sinned against the Holy Spirit😂😂😂
I’m not saying anal is good. My point is, it is not Christian laws but church guidances and counseling to curb barbarism and not make us act like animals😂
Abi you still want to invoke fire😂😂😂
Blacksmith 😂😂😂
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Did you not see that Paul's revealing of Esau's judgement was after the coming of Christ, in the same way and vein he was reading out all the other judgements?

As the bible said, you have no excuse nor a place to hide.

And I am saying that God has already fore Written all His Judgements and any who does not want the Judgment of God to fall on him will be wise to learn them and obey them

SpencerForbes:
I can’t speak on that just yet till I do my research but be waiting cos I’m coming with the truth😁
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I love Truths, so mention me, and I will be there.

SpencerForbes:
Nah you call church doctrines God’s laws that’s where we have the problem. Just be truthful and try to convince people in the right way and we won’t have to result to this next sunday. If it is God, tell us God said. If it isn’t tell us it’s from the church. Don’t scare people with hell if it isn’t necessary and we’re cool😎
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Everything I have been saying is gotten from the bible which you yourself saw and no where did you show that what I say is not in the bible. And I did not mention hellfire until you yourself raised it.

And see, the mere fact that you are not comfortable hearing the word hellfire, clearly tells you, even when no one says it.

And I don't believe in saying it as it is enough watching people squirm and bicker uncomfortably when they already feel it is about to be said to them.

SpencerForbes:
I laugh. If this is the love Christ was preaching about, then heaven will really be few😂 e just Dey pain una say I debunk una hell faya scare😂😂
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Love is in telling your fellow man who is a thief, the Truth that he is a thief, exactly what Christ preached.
No where did you see Christ tell an adulterer that he is holy.

And secondly, no one is going to heaven. The Bible clearly says that man is meant for the earth and so it is that we are going to a new heaven and earth (new world). That is what is Written.

So, do you see God bothered that only a few people will make the new world of new heaven and earth? No.
Revelations shows that He would joyfully rock and play with those who make it, just as He used to do with Adam before they lost that type of living.

SpencerForbes:
Okay daddy in the lord😂😂😂 next Sunday I’ll be waiting for your post. Preacher of doom. Next Sunday come with your hell faya narrative let me debunk it again.
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Me, I don't preach hellfire. Everyone knows that it is there waiting for them when they die. (Of which I remind people that it even starts here while they are still on earth)

But what I preach or rather recite is The Law God has already Written down and the Judgements He has already Pronounced in advance and Written down.

SpencerForbes:
Thank you daddy😂 Jesus died for my sin 😁 same way he allowed the thief into paradise and the adulterous woman, make e no shock you😂😂😂
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The thief in addition to his penance of sin gave Jesus Truth and Justice to a man seeking seeking and requiring justice. But you give Lies and rejoys that pervershion is perpetuated; The thief gave Life to Jesus in being the only one who saw what was wrong in the whole world and pointed out that it was, you give death, declaring that which is wrong, to be right.

The adulterous woman obeyed God and returned no more to adultery while you swim in corruption and teach wherewith The Lord hath commanded that we should keep our bodies holy and undefiled.

So, you see, you shall not get the Judgment the thief and the adulterous woman got but you shell get the Judgment which soddom and Gomorrah and Babylon got.