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FreeSpirited:
You obviously still don't understand the gravity of the error you made by your claims about riches, righteousness and holiness in comparison to the poor, otherwise you won't be scampering everywhere to defend it and still pretend to be right

Where did you see me arguing this issue elsewhere?

And clearly you are panicked and afraid that your opinions on the subject is wrong because of the wishes you have created around it.

Social discuss as revealed by these threads point out the fact that we all have seen that the poor are really really bad and even by our own lesser judgements, there is no way that they can pass God's Judgement.

And it is the rich who do a "good work" as people have obtained more "kindness" and favours from the rich than the poor, therefore making people to think that the rich might qualify better than the poor. And this is the scope of my argument.

However, my own opinion is that from Jesus's statement,it is the poor who have a better chance in making it, if they would learn what God has been Saying and Teaching since.

FreeSpirited:
1. Why then did Jesus say it will be easier for Carmel to pass through needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven?

These threads answer your question.

https://www.nairaland.com/5520565/poor-people-nigeria-terrible-lot#83897180

https://www.nairaland.com/8387040/facts-poor-people#134813530

And no, I do not say that the poor are badder than the rich which is what I think is the angle from which you are interpreting the passage

Truvelisback:
Good day, fellas. As a christian, if you are poor, if may affect your christian life or you may find it difficult to live a holy or righteous. Let's face it and leave sentiment aside. However, I don't mean a poor christian can't live a holy life but it is harder for the poor than the average or rich.

Walking the Christ Way is not easy whether rich or poor but it is certainly difficulter for the poor.

However, it is easier for the poor to find The Lord than for the rich

LordReed:
Do you think foreign objects in people's bodies only move or change orientation due to prayer?

Change of Post.

So like Pharoah's and Baal's magicians come and swallow your own nails let us see what will happen

kingxsamz:
How about you swallow 10 nails and ask your Jesus to remove it? 😂

Fallacy of shifting the burden go and swallow your own nail let us see what would happen to you people

Auxtan:
Thank you for this.
Do you mean he shouldn't go the spiritual traditional way in tackling the Issues and how should he make use of these Bible verses you gave?

This is where you have to real eyes that Africans come from strong pagan roots, so anyone trying to following Christ needs to know what this means to his pagan roots.

Repentance and following Christ is no stroll

What else can be expected from the op when his brother said
https://www.nairaland.com/8531009/cleric-warns-against-dna-tests#136985967

Dijita:
Are you saying a student graduated from university in 1985 and this is all the proof you can monster. No picture in graduating gown with some of his class members.

You obviously have never gone to the university.

GboyegaD:
It might affect his dentition, however; flogging is never the solution. Una no dey tire to dey advice violence ni?

This dentition does not still stop women from coveting and marrying him.

See better avenue, Festac don cut their own finish

Steep:
The damage that the prosperity gospel has done is unqualified. It creates a false faith, removes the focus on the kingdom and place it on the glory or success of this world. It is a demonic doctrine that has spread like wide fire.

This true but the truth is that poorverty also reveals what type of person, a person is.

cutecommend:
Be very desperate, hungry and thirsty for it. Engage in "do-or-die" prayers, bible study, fastings e.t.c to God, requesting only one thing: "God make me holy". When God sees that you are truly interested in being holy, He will give you grace to be holy. God does not want to waste such grace on unserious so-called christians.


Matthew 5:6 "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

I almost said that you are wrong but I concede that you are right by 40-45%.

MrPresident1:
Is God the God of the dead or the living? Why should anyone see God after death rather than when they are alive? No one sees God at death, it is while alive that you see God

Clearly, he implies you should see God before you die.

Earthstorms:
It does not feel right to me. Criminal sentence should carry some element of deterrence for future crimes.

Giving a fraudster 6 months sentence and counting it from when he was arrested is not deterrent enough. That is why after the sentence they still return to the crime that they were prosecuted for.

This is where you see that we have 2 Criminal Law systems.

One is God's Criminal Law aka Natural just is which the criminals insalted calling it jungle justice because it is full of hot punishments and deterrence and just is.

And the second one, th present criminal law system imposed by these same criminals, which allows crimes and does not fully punish it. Rather they are even using it to in rich themselves, hence the corruption.

And in this one, one of its flaws is that they decide what they charge you with. Which means if they charge with a law that says you get punished for 6 months, then 6 months it is. End of story.

justlove91:
I didn't admit they did those things.

Oh yes you did. That is the meaning of your statement "Even if they did, that was when they were young" which is a clear admission that you know like the whole world knows that every human being born into this world, sins and did the bad things that people do

justlove91:
They can't desire other's wives because they're both voluntary celibates.

Celibacy is only limited to physical contact and does not stop a person from lusting.

Secondly, this news proves that you know you are Lying and obviously you are just wasting my time arguing here for nothing For just like the nun who just ratted out them Catholic priests, this news also proves that your people are exactly like the Catholic priests and other people

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://globalnews.ca/news/11290941/buddhist-monks-blackmail-sexual-relationships-thailand/&ved=2ahUKEwjmjoX07ImQAxWmQkEAHaxkMJ4QFnoECGAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2sqbaYKpZJdT_7VTnYdMWE

justlove91:
But Jesus innocence can safe you from your nasty sins abi

Wrong. It is not Jesus' Innocence which saved man.
Many innocent people are now sleeping or jogging and exercising in their houses but their Innocence has not saved and will never save Timileyin Ajayi who is in death row as the man who killed the corper girl.

justlove91:
It can never ever happen.

You have already finished doing it as proven by your arguments already.

Then the pastor should be suedddddddddddddfdd

ShyHussaini:
Women are generally manipulative in nature. As a man, always make sure your wife makes it point clear that you're the provider of the house. Never let your children ask their mother for money for essential things in their lives. E.g,
(children) mom, we need money for books or our school fee is delayed.
Mom= relate these to your father.
By these, the children will begin to see the effort of their father in their lives and not just a useless man who cared less of his family.

The father in that his case is clearly a useless one who has no value in the boy's life.

But a father who pays for the things which the children ask for whether essential or not have the full respect of their children, even if they go through mummy. And this is not the problem.

But as per the giving to mummy and daddy issue, it is primarily because of the women have since finished creating the present system in place

Mariangeles:
How does his soul need it?
Is that food for the soul?

As if you do not already know.

Mamayam:
He is ruining his dentition.

Take actions fast. Flog if necessary..

Denti Kini?
When you people are mmmueing and kerewaing agberos, conductors, babalawos, house boys and security men, do you remember dentition?

Stop disturbing the boy

Earthstorms:
You did not identify the real problem.

These boys get light sentences in court because the EFCC gives them plea bargains with light sentences.

EFCC is unable to secure convictions through normal trials in many cases so they resort to pushing the boys for lenient plea bargains.

EFCC go for this because they can count the convictions as evidence of their working and put that in their statistics, while the boys go for the plea bargain because it leaves them off the hook in no time. In some cases the jail time is even offset from the time they were in detention prior to sentencing.

Exactly.

Earthstorms:
The laws need to be changed to regulate the minimum sentence that can be arranged through plea bargains.

There is nothing wrong with the Law. Plea bargain is already about minimum sentence and it is there because of Law

First, the report did not state the charges brought against them.

Secondly, do you not see the losses they have made that is 5m, car, phones plus some prison time, disgrace and shame because of the trial.

The place where the wrong is now is that it is wrong for the king (Fg) to confiscate the items. The proper thing is for them to be returned to the persons stolen from. And if it is enough to compensate the victim, then more should be given him.

And if it is not enough to compensate the victim, then the court should levy damages on the yahoo boy to pay both the victim and fg for spending resources to catch him because he committed this crime.

With this the yahoo boy will be paying for a long time to pay for his crime.

That is where the just is.

We4all:
The problem of children looking out for their mothers more than their fathers has to do with the man, and the relationship he has built with them over the years. As a father, If you don't bond with your children during their formative years or act responsibly, then be prepared to suffer the consequences. You can't be a dead beat dad, a wife beater, or a womanizer, and be expecting kind gestures from your children. Most responsible children become distant from their dads as soon as they sense that he is irresponsible...

The Truth is that we all know that women and mothers and girls have created a system in which they are using the nature of every man and child towards guaranteeing that they ensure that they have the burden of giving and taking care of them continually.

And in that that same system that boy and man is taught to take care of himself and his mother.

With this system and by his nature, fathers only have the purpose of caring for themselves and for giving others and not caring whether they are being given by others.

And this is the area where side chicks (women again) are using to exploit men and husbands by "giving" them and pouring on them too much love, care and attention, knowing that the system has casted him out and has left him uncared for.

Also knowing that they have created a system where no one is taking care of a man and because of his nature and what they have done, the man is not even noticing and does not notice that he has been been discarded.

So, all these is not about being a bad and u responsible father for that one knows that he is not going to get anything from his children and he is not even expecting to.

But the crux of the issue is that women have created a system call it a pension arrangement in which every man and child lives to take care of them and provide for them to death.

And that is why they seek to marry and must have children and that the worst thing or one of the worst thing you can do any woman is not to give her or not to take care of her.

Which is why you hear them always shouting "give me, give me" and all the billings things like this guy

https://www.nairaland.com/8531512/nigeria-girls-na-billing-nigerian

Na bettacause follow dem

You better leave him alone is it your finger he is sucking?

His soul needs it, so leave him alone oo

Janosky:
Gabrielshow24 post

If He is Father of all, and is called Father from eternity, that necessitates His Fatherhood is eternal, not a role He picked up at creation. So I’ll ask again: Father to whom before creation, if not His eternal Son?🤨
If He is Father of all, on. So I’ll ask again: Father to whom before creation, if not His eternal Son?🤨



Oga,Bring up where you saw the bolded in my post.

You know I didn't type that comment.
You can't offer any proof.

There is something called implied and inference. And in all you Jws never answered his questions, rather you dodged his question and reversed it by asking your own questions.

If you people are not deceivers, then you people would be answering questions and not using the strategy/fallacy of questioning your opposition.

A classic example of what Jesus was talking about in saying "Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be reproved."

justlove91:
Lol...and how did you know for sure they did all those? Even if they did, that was when they were young, now they've grown pass that, you shock they can grow pass that without the help me of
your Jesus

Which child did not do these things?

Secondly, since you admit that they did these things when they were young, it means that their records show that they have hurt and caused someone to wounded and therefore they are guilty.

And even today they have lied and desired to have someone's beautiful wife and wished bad for somebody eg a politician or governor.

Meanwhile, you forget that you are and will be still guilty for the sins you are have done and another person's innocence, does not change your guilt, exactly as your own guilt does not make an innocent person guilty. So you are just deceiving yourself for you are still going to the same place bandits and kidnappers are going to.

Truthseeker10:
You mean you felt the pain of your wife sleeping with your brother here on earth? Will bad people also feel the pain on earth after they have died?

When you felt the pain of your wife sleeping with your brother, did you not say "you don die ooo?" Yet, you were still breathing and we were looking at you as you don die.

justlove91:
Will you say Mahtma Gandhi and Dalai Lama are wicked and evil and love to sin and give pain and suffering to others?

When they were born did they not set leg for their friend to fall? Or did they not angrily push their friend to fall and wound be because the person did better than them? Or did they not plot to steal their friends' girlfriend? Or did they not lie against somebody? Or did they not desire somebody's wife or even fornicated and visited their own Allen avenues?