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doffman:
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You did not answer question . I know , you can never answer it . Maybe bring another person to help you .

Must God collect blood before he can give salvation .

Why not God kill the Satan directly without asking for blood for salvation !

Dey play oo

I answered the questions by showing you that He went to the first men to save them but like you they did, as they willed.

And in that first salvation He did not demand blood. But, with you devils shedding blood, you stupidly forgot that the Law and Just Is, that blood must also be taken from you. So eye for eye, blood for blood.

Then thirdly, allowing devils like you to be born means that you and Satan get bring out all your Satanness and then God gets to punish you all and wipe you all out entirely and permanently in one swoop!

doffman:
🤣 your acclaimed god that pray for help Ahaa . Dey play oo

Now you are playing your stupidity for that is the meaning of

He walked where I walked
He stood where I stand
He felt what I feel
He understands

He knows my frailty
Shared my humanity
Tempted in every way
Yet without sin

God with us!
So close to us
God with us
Emmanuel

And besides you are foolish to not see that this was also a very Big Trap to permanently and foreverly seal the destruction of people like you. NOW NOTHING AND NO ONE SHALL EVER EVER SAVE YOU FROM EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT

doffman:
Maybe help us answer the question o :

Since no one get to God without Jesus , those that came Before Jesus was born, how will they saved , or they will enter hellfire right ?

Did you not see that Jesus went to Cain but Cain did not listen unlike Seth, Enoch and Noah and Abraham and King Abimelech etc?

Everyone met Jesus.

Truthseeker10:
is spirit and soul the same?

Yes. The spirit of man is called soul.

Truthseeker10:
In Ecclesiastics 9:10. Does any activity occur in sheol?

Do you see the dead policemen working and devising how to forc someone's wife and daughter?

Truthseeker10:
What is the Hebrew word that is translated as grave in the kjv version?

Don't know, don't care. Right now KJV said "grave" and that is sounds very right, clear and understandable.

Jokerman:
What was the 1st and 2nd attempt?

1st one is Genesis 4:26.

And the 2nd attempt is Abraham through Moses and The Law!

And before you hala and wail, look at the line of Salvation from Christ backwards, on whom does it end with? Luke 3:38 answers.

This clearly shows you how long God has been trying to save mankind, but as usual, they reject it and even spoil it.

SonofElElyonRet:
Theophany Is God the Father's bodily appearances. He appeared to Abraham and Sarah in the company of the 2 angels that later went to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah..
Christophany is the appearances of Christ bodily essentially in the Old Testament. But I guess it also covers post resurrection appearances

Ok

But, they are wrong on Theophany.

Those apparitions to Abraham, Sarah and the Sodom and Gomorrah event are actually Jesus Christ!

People are not paying attention that it is Written that Jesus, is The LORD/Lord.

There are no 2 "The Lord"

We have only ONE LORD!

1 Corinthians 8:6
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

phemmyfour:
Without driving and traffic rules, we all have ways we prefer to drive but we decided to follow those rules. Does that make it easy..no

Even without anyone telling you the rules did you not already know to drive carefully?

And was that not already easy?

Truthseeker10:
Does your dictionary say that sleeping is a place?
Is the place called sleeping the same place as sheol?

Does Ecclesiastics 9:10 in the translation below say that hades is a place of punishment?

Brenton Septuagint Translation
Whatsoever thine hand shall find to do, do with all thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in Hades wither thou goest.

Amplified Bible
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might; for there is no activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol (the nether world, the place of the dead) where you are going.

At least you avoided asking a stupid question.

However, you now asked additional questions that depart from the post. So I will only address the question on point which is "Does your dictionary say that sleeping is a place?
Is the place called sleeping the same place as sheol?"

And this where I ask you why do you let stupidity play with your head?

Does common sense not let you see that going by the bible examples I gave and what we have all seen that sleeping is what we call death Just like what this policeman looks like?
https://www.nairaland.com/8322940/police-officer-found-dead-abuja#133810612.

Common sense already tells you that we say a person has died because his spirit/soul has gone away and left what we call body behind.

And it is that body we put in bury in the ground and that ground is called grave/cemetery or even Sheol.

But clearly Sheol has a wider meaning beyond the meaning of grave and cemetery where the physical bodies of those whom we call dead are buried.

Therefore, Sheol also includes the place where the dead have gone to, even though their physical bodies are still lying on the bed like this policeman.

Truthseeker10:
Does Ecclesiastics 9:10 in the translation below say that hades is a place of punishment?

Brenton Septuagint Translation

That is why you should not use devil's bible
Ecclesiastes 9:10 KJV said the grave and not hades.


Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

SonofElElyonRet:
Oh.. thought you posted the original story. We are on the same page then

Ok.

SonofElElyonRet:
You don't know what Christophany means. it's the appearances of Christ in the Old Testament
AI is incorrect. Christophany definitely includes pre incarnation appearances

What do you mean by pre incarnation? Do you mean appearances before Mathew?

Just saw another one called "Theophany".

SonofElElyonRet:
I meant your very first post (original story)

I do not see the post you are referring to for my first post was to counter Duffman and the Abia guy

SonofElElyonRet:
You are talking Christophany.. I'm talking his death on the cross and his blood . Read my comment as a full argument not out of context

I don't know what Christophany is (until now) but I did point out to you that
Jesus was at the beginning and that Proverbs 8 shows Him. And that it would distress you to know that it was He Who Spoke with Moses on the mountain.

And all these are definitely not Christophany.

AI Overview
A Christophany is a manifestation or appearance of Jesus Christ, especially after his resurrection

SonofElElyonRet:
That's not what your original story conveys

You were the one who moved post and brought in "believing God without abstaining from sin.

My original answer is "righteousness is Holiness".

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂na wa oo....Is the place called sleeping and Hades/sheol the same place?

Better. I won't ever indulge you in your endless stupid questions season for you are not here to learn but to query. And when you run out reasonable queries, you enter into stupid questions.

You are obviously Michael234 or something like that. Same question ad infinitum into stupidity.

That aside, you have a dictionary and they have defined that Hades is the place of Punishment of the dead.

Sheol is place of the dead.

And before you ask the stupid question, remember that as you are alive, you are in a place of abode yet you also have the place of punishment called prison where people alive like you are punished. So you ought to understand what the dictionary has said. But as usual I expect you to act stupidly as you pretend not to understand.

SonofElElyonRet:
You are in error. Jesus isn't another way .. He is The Only Way. Read Ephesians 4:8 and also

Did you not see and read that Jesus was at the beginning?

You obviously have not read Proverbs 8.

And of course it would distress you to know that it was Jesus Who Spoke with Moses on the mountain.

Truthseeker10:
Show me one truth. Are other threads apart from yours not truthful?

He has a coupla of Truths but he also has Lies and Madness.

Truthseeker10:
So thoses verses said they were in a place called sleeping? If yes, Where is hades and sheol located?

Now you have moved post to another question.

SonofElElyonRet:
Faith should work holiness in any Spirit filled christian except he does not have the infilling of the Holy Spirit. You can not successfully argue that merely believing God without abstaining from sin translates to holiness

He does not believe that does not live according to his belief.” Sigmund Freud

No one can say he believes in God yet he does not flee from sin.

Thus, belief in God means fleeing from sin (which is even far better than abstaining from sin)0

And faith and believe are the same. People have still not come to see that believe is be- Live the short of Begin to Live.

Truthseeker10:
Show me a verse that says that Sleeping is a place.

Did you not hear what Samuel's spirit said when Saul disturbed the witch to reach Samuel even though he was dead?

Or did you not hear what Jesus said about Martha's brother Lazarus who died?

gohf:
those that came before Jesus believed that only God can provide the way back to Him and God did fulfilling the promise He spoke from the beginning that the seed of the woman will crush the head of the serpent..

You are talking rubbish.

There was a Way back but man did not take it. Then God made another one and man still did not take it,

Truthseeker10:
So when they died, where did they go before getting to heaven?

Did you not hear that they are in the place called "sleeping"?

SonofElElyonRet:
Do not downplay holiness. ..

Righteousness is Holiness!

Jokerman:
They couldn't reach God when they died until Jesus died on the cross of Calvary, and when to Hades and made it possible for them.

If you leave this physical body without Jesus in your life, you ain't reaching God the Father.

Wrong!

Everyone had Him to reach.

His dying on the cross was the 3rd attempt God took to save us.

doffman:
So those that come before Jesus will also not reach God right ?

Dey play and it will be clear and you will know the truth at the right time .

Did you not see that everybody dealt with Jesus?
Did you not read that no one was created without Him?

No one gets to God without going through Jesus. That is why He Said He was The Way!

Ruke1989:
it is obedience that is not easy without faith.

You do not need anything to obey not to lie or steal or drink to stupidity.

phemmyfour:
Like take your son and sacrifice for me?

Leave your comfort zone to a new land where I would show you?

These instructions doesn't make sense by human understanding. Righteousness isn't easy without faith

This one is even too much. The simple ones like do not lie, steal, envy your neighbour and do not fornicate or do adultery, you can see people have said they won't obey

phemmyfour:
There were no Catholic in that era.

We had galatians, corinthians, Ephesians , samaria churches. And no church was bigger than the other

Only Roman terrorists like Boko haram today going round terrorising people and forcing them to follow their own way life.

SultanOfAbia:
Catholic is the best church in christianty. The first church by the disciple Peter. The rock!!

The first church that Jesus ordained physically and spiritually

Proud Catholic❤❤

See pagan and idol worshipper dey claim Peter who was not even Roman. Olè Catholic church

doffman:
Dey play .


Which God are you talking about ?

Is it the god they nailed on the wood or the real powerful God that created everybody ?
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Did you not read that He have up Himself to be murdered?
Which clearly means that no one could touch Him save He allowed them?

No white dew in Lagos again.

LordReed:
YOU claimed he had back pain, substantiate your claim. I watched his press conference after the game and he doesn't once mention any back pain so show me.

Where is the team report you are claiming then?

Now you have moved post from first "Show me a clip of him" to fallacy of reversing the burden and accusation of me claiming back pain.

Whereas you are the one who claimed ankle injury and I only pointed out that his coaches said he suffered "back pain".

All you have done here is to commit the fallacy of reversing the burden which clearly means that you can not address the issue.

LordReed:
The game was filmed live. Show me a clip of him clutching his back in pain without being hit by opposing players.

Fallacy of reversal of burden of proof. Besides, his team's management who over see his wellbeing both before, during and after the game even beyond all cameras are the ones who gave this report, so, it is not impeachable.