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Exceed15:
Feminist work. No such thing as rape in marriage.

Easy man. Some husbands are stupid enough to think that there is no difference between a human being who made the mistake of becoming their wife and their mannequin intimacy gadgets, so they need to be put down.

This is Beastiality and it is a ground of divorce even in the Nigerian Law

Drella:
A man has authority over his wife because a man is the head of his home.
A head without authority is nothing but a tail!

Parents have authority over their children, does that mean the children are slaves?

Is the house not his own? So why would he not have authority?

Did he have authority over her when she was in her father's house or her own house? No.

Is it not because she consented and allowed him to have authority over her, that he began to exercise authority over her?

If she did not consent did he have authority over her? No

So, you see her consent is fundamental to your supposed authority and the second/minute she refuses it, you have no authority over her.

Which is why you can keep to your own lawfull estate while she safely and lawfully returns to her own lawfull place.

It is not by force to be married or to continue being married even when you no longer want to.

Even a child is free to walk away from his parents, it is not by force to be parented.

So you see, authority over persons always requires the ruled to consent to it. Which is why Nnamdi Kanu is complaining about Government and that they are unlawful to him. And he is right.

"No man is good enough to govern another man without that other man's consent. Abraham Lincoln

Government itself is founded upon the great doctrine of the consent of the governed, and has its cornerstone in the memorable principle that men are endowed with inalienable rights. Leland Stanford

budaatum:
But you don't have authority over your wife since you didn't buy a slave!

In fact, slavery, though sort of condoned by the book you quote from, has been abolished! Or would you like to bring it back with a Bible quotation?

Shut up devil. You are the ones who in slave people while God through the Bible is the one who came and freed them and broke the chains of slavery

https://www.nairaland.com/8224849/god-through-bible-what-stopped.slavery

Drella:
1. I see you don’t believe and follow the bible...

That guy is a devil and a Satanist! He is even below atheists.

Drella:
The focus of that Car analogy is not on “car” but “authority”.

And my reply based on your analogy is that no man has authority over his fellow man and even over children.

Even over animals, man's previous authority over them was reduced to "and the fear of you".

So, no husband has full and unfettered authority over his wife if she does not consent to it.

Drella:
The main message is a woman should not refuse her husband for no reason. A man is not meant to force it. If she doesn’t refuse her husband, there won’t be the issue of forcing to start with.

See where you guys are letting your penis think for you and how you people have made sex to over rule you.

The bible did not say "no reason" for there are lots of reasons and grounds why a wife can refuse you sex as aforestated by the bible.

Eg Menses: sex in menses is forbidden. Leviticus 18:19.;
When she is mourning/sorrow/pain, Deuteronomy 21:13;
immediately after child birth , Leviticus 12:2 etc

So, you see the bible is big on holiness, fairness, equality and reasonability.

Thus, if a wife has reasonable reasons to withhold or deprive you of sex, it is valid and lawful.

Drella:
As for you saying a marriage is over if she refuses sex, the only acceptable reason to end a marriage according to the bible is infidelity.

For the purposes of marriage and rape, if the marriage is going well, then a wife will always be opening up to her husband and a husband will never rape his wife.

So, by this reason every reasonable person can say that rape will never occur in marriage as the wife will always consent to having sex with her husband.

However, once she does not consent to sex, it also means that she does not consent to furthering the marriage, because marriage means sex (aside; which is why Okafor's law holds and side chicks, slay mamas and Prostittutes have a hold on each man they have had sex with [b]because sex is marriage. So many people have more than 1 wives and husbands[/b).

Thus, no sex, no marriage.

Which is why once a marriage starts lacking sex, the couples have divorced in spirit or are divorcing.

Thus, if you force a former wife to have sex with you, without her consent, you are raping her.

And when a wife does not want to have sex with you, is it not a sign of infidelity as you know that she must have sex with someone, even if it is not you?

So, you see there are many ways infidelity shows its ugly head.

Drella:
If you don’t have authority over a car in your possession, it means you can’t tell me when to drive it and when not to.
I can drive it when I wish!

A human being is not a car, which is why even for your children, you have no right to abuse and use them anyhow as you can to your car. Is it now a full grown adult you now want to do as you like, because you married her?

Man, you have no rights there.

If your wife refuses to open up to you and you can not bear it any longer it means therefore that she is no longer your wife but a stranger. And if you forcefully penetrated her, you are guilty of sexual assault and rape.

Still the same way you are guilty when you do that to a girl in your area, whom you are not married to.

So technically, there would be nothing like marital rape as marriage and sex go together.

But once a spouse refuses sex, it means your marriage is over. And all sex without consent here is rape.

Devil'swife, I mean devil'sbride, Nnamdi papa, una no go see this one talk now o. Atheists pretending to be righteous.

AllBlack:
Just because you don't understand it doesn't make any of it less true. It is not for everybody.

He understands it and what he said is right. Op is talking rubbish.

Goldplucker:
11. Take care of your pen!s. This is your manhood. Don't sleep with anything in a skirt. Love Life Matters

You say this yet you are talking about sleeping with anything in a skirt

Kingarthur21:
lol..the op post defined rape as forcing a woman or girl..

That definition is sexism itself! Rape is forcing someone into sex

Anyway marriage doesn't stop a crime from being a crime,rape itself is a crime... Because it happens in marriage doesn't make it less than a crime.

You must understand that that definition was born under the ground that it was only men who raped. So it is not sexist

lightangel65i:
It should not be a crime. Because

1) ladies will misuse it and lie on their husbands heads.

2) there is no such thing as marital rape

3) if you guys want something like this legal, it should also be legal for the man to cheat

4) and it should also be a crime to force a man to give you money that is finicial rape

An evil is a crime and all evils must be punished.

Rape is already a crime and girls have abused it but that has not stopped it from being a crime.

It is already a crime but what you are saying is that the king's men (the police) should arrest and put erring husbands in the king's prison.

Marital rape is still a rape however because it such a wickedness that is not supposed to occur in marriage, is why it does not have the attention of the society enough to demand for it's communal punishment.

Thus, marital rape is still a breach of a personal right therefore a Tort, therefore it's remedy is civil suit and damages and not a police prosecution for now!

And when you sue your husband, then you have also initiated divorce proceedings.

Drella:
1Corinthians 7

Bible does not protect evil.

That passage only says a woman should not do that evil of withholding and depriving a husband sex.

But neither does it say that a man should do the evil of raping his wife when she withholds sex

The bible does not advice one evil deserves another.

So the bible does not justify evil and no husband has a right to rape his wife.

Gotocourt:
Nothing like marital rape in Nigerian law. Spit on it, drill it and cum like a Boss. Zero apologies

Blimey, you are a dirty person

Thoth02:
Enki is the Lord of the earth . En means "Lord" while ki means "Earth".

He is Lord of Earth... And God of the waters.

Most of the benevolent things you think are done by Enki to be specific.

No one has seen God before so you can't know who is doing which.

God does evil things, he confidently told you that in scriptures.

The concept of ascribing everything Good to God doesn't make sense.

See, you prove you are a mad person. See how you are saying different crazy things in one post

Usmanovic95:
You'll need a good SAN to come argue in your favour that you don't have money o because we no go believe you😆

And he still won't win!

PEACE2023:
You are right. My American friend is 45 years now without a wife. He is not a gay. I asked him some days ago why he is still single he said that he has not seen a good woman to spend his life with. That all the ones he dated are after money.
I even asked him if I should recommend an African girl to him and he said no. That black American women are the worst in the USA.

Do you not see that Curse has finally reached Nigeria?

Nigerian girls would soon be mad like their American counterparts. Did you not see the beginnings of it when "I just returned" dey fight local girl for detty December?

The world is Cursed now.

Padipadi:
Because absolute power in men brings total suffering to women. In the past women too suffer for that region and are still suffering in other parts of the world

This is rubbish.

Women suffered because God punished them for their evils.

How would Satan destroy mankind if he does not do that?

See how people dey choose devil and e Mark yet dem say dem no won go hellfire.

Sharpsharp00123:
bro I rate diplomacy over everything

When that time comes I will just manoeuvre her n it will work

My own principle is that I will only b confrontational when need b n she knows, I avoid having confrontation but I am not a weakling

Even if I send money to her parents I won't tell her but she will b d one to find out herself, that's d kinda person I am

I understand. You are truly not a weakling and your strategy is fine and wise. But, you are always going to have confrontations and your strategy just postpones it till the day that you won't be able to hold your reasonability and your temper and then you would explode from all those years of avoiding confrontations.

And that is when you would see that your wife was waiting for you to show the world how unreasonable you are.

And after that day, you will never be the same reasonable and fair person people know. And everything good you have built all your years are gone up in smoke. And that is when you real eyes that people are evil for that day of your unreasonable conduct and display is all they would remember.

And that is when you will hate yourself and either submit to all your wife's swayings where she gets to decide who lives or dies and who gets what or not.

Or you become a mad unreasonable beast.

You are not the first to use this road and wives know, why do you think they all say "you no know me?"

For me this is a very stupid issue that no couple should be having because

“Ohana means family. Family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten.” Lilo and stitch

Your questions are badly formulated.

I can see that you interest is in if an opposing soldier runs out of ammo, how should he be treated by the other soldier with ammo?

But you let yourself get distracted with other questions now I don't know which one to answer.

However, It is not a duel between opposing soldiers who decides victory in a battle.

Sharpsharp00123:
are u married?

If yes u should know some issues are avoidable, na Wetin u know u fit fight me in top. Wisdom is profitable to direct, once u understand that u won't have problem.

I only tell people what they need to know not only my wife n it's not because I fear anyone but if we all can apply common sense life will b easier n everyone will have peace

I understand you and how you are operating.

But one day, you are going to have that unavoidable crossroad between what you know is right to do and what you know your wife expects you to do. And that is when you are going to have the terrible and horrible conflict that you have been trying to avoid with your wife

Or most likely, you are gonna take the easy way out and please your wife.

And that is when all your problems starts because on that day it is either you please your wife and annoy your family or you please your family and no peace for you in your own house.

And to me this is a big stupid rubbish that should never have occurred. Everyone here is the 2 of you's family so if you marry a woman who does not understand that, that woman was never worth marrying in the first place.

“Ohana means family. Family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten.” Lilo and stitch

But women are just too evil to understand and accept this.

Sharpsharp00123:
I have told u many times that what obtains in south Africa doesn't obtain here, Nigeria has a communal system of living unlike in south Africa where u all want to live like the white man.

Nigerians prefer to help anyone in need than staying aloof n trying to let them solve d problem alone

There are many things u really don't understand about us but u will just want to put mouth

Don't mind the evil thing. All Africa including south African are communal but women have always destroyed and torn apart the man's family.

But when it comes to her family's benefit you would not hear any objection at all.

And if you like settle her family with the whole of Kaduna State, she will still protest when you want to pay for your cousin's child's little school fees.

yemmit90:
@op, how old are you? Because if you are adult with experience, you won't have any need to create a thread like this.

Women are naturally self centre, they love comforts, and often fight off anything that can take out of that comforts. It is all about protecting their empire and finance. You are their empire and ATM that other person should not have access to.

As a man, except her family members, you don't need to tell a women what you want to do for others.

The thread is perfect especially as it is a great reminder of how evil wives are and how many men are lost inside their wives nyash.

Samantha125:
Why should you be asking your married brother for money in the first place when he has a wife and children to take care of?

Get a boyfriend or go to your parents and ask for that money.

See reversal and blame shifting meanwhile even uncle married man also asks his brother for money.

Men, do you see why you should be careful not to marry especially a devil like this? She must destroy your family.

And after she has finished destroying you and your family, she will leave.

In all these men will still not hear.

Sharpsharp00123:
see naturally all women are greedy n selfish

I am a married man n I can tell u, women know the right thing but they will never do it unless it involve them

They support all wrongs once it doesn't have to do with them but once it involves them directly then u will know they have senseore than u can imagine

My wife did one little shit n I didn't pay much attention but when her younger bro wife did the same thing she explode, I was d one that called her attention to it.

That girl typing knows it's wrong if a man can't decide on his own but she doesn't care cos it's not affecting her directly, it's d day she will need anything from that man that u will see her think straight n tell the man it's wrong

That's women for u

Men just need sense n diplomacy to deal with them

The Bold
Is Gold!

In that sense and diplomacy add strong hand. And this is where Igbo men win though dem too still dey fall my hand well well. But Edo men try but dem also Kon be b******

Sharpsharp00123:
personally if I wan help u I no go tell anyone, I go just help u on a low.

On the low?

Na so una dey fear una wife? Na so woman don hol una finish? No wonder...

Quarterpast:
Madam, we are talking about money and not kitchen matters here. So you asked your own blood brother for financial help, and he asks u to go through his wife first? So if the wife says no, it means your brother won't help? Una dey try o.
You are saying this because it is your brother in-law. Wait until it's your brother first

Can you not see that she is talking about herself? Na audio sister be dat.

Samantha125:
Because women are the ones in charge of the house while men are the providers... An unhappy woman can make the house very unpleasant to live in.

One of my brothers in law refers to my sister as the CEO of the house...😂😂😂... If you call him requesting for something in the house, he'd tell you to go to the CEO.

I am sure you are talking about you and your husband.

Anyway, he's a simp and remain small I would say that he is not a man.

verminnel:
lol . its totally dependent on the woman don't generalize.

Aunty, It is general! 98% of women are never happy when their husbands are righteous and good doing.

Quarterpast:
I'm Not generalizing this assertion. Of course, it is a hypothesis. It may be True, it May Not. But it's my personal observation.

I observed closely and noticed that women(mothers, wives and girlfriends) aren't really comfortable seeing their sons, husbands and boyfriends being generous. I know of many husbands who cannot help out financially when their wives are around, while some husbands would seek permission and approval from their wives before they can help. There are some men that you can't call on the phone to ask for help at the time they are together with their wives because they might not pick since they already know the reason for the call, and even if they pick, they wouldn't say anything sensible or in that direction.
For mothers, they would prefer you help your siblings instead of an outsider. There was a time I wanted to give out my clothes to someone, but my mum refused when she found out. She said I should give them to my younger brother. She suggests who I can help. Maybe it's maternal instincts, I don't know.
For girlfriends, it's either you're helping them or their families. You don't dare tell some of them that you want to help a friend who is in need cos they will discourage you. They would rather think of milking you off that money. I know women feel they own their men just as mothers feel they own their sons no matter how old they are. They like to domineer...
Personally, I am a man of myself. My mum can't stop me from helping whoever I want to help, even my prospective wife won't dare.

Your observations are in perfect order.

idahme:
He called him a pervert is that depressing his opinions too or condemning? Does he know the meaning of pervert? Does the narration of OP make him a pervert or is it not acceptable in the society? He even went ahead to say he is not fit for the girl because to him the OP doesn't have money. If that's not condemning don't know what condemning means

I did not see that one oo. I don't fully read comments. Once I read the beginning I know the flow. And true, he was too invasive. Syrusfineboy, abeg no ves. Saintbillion, you no talk well. For, for cases like this, you can not force morality on people.