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jaephoenix:
I thought I debunked this fuckery in a previous thread?

No you did not. You just droned on and on arguing away from point.

jaephoenix:
Yet there is no evidence of the spiritual world

Now you have moved post.

If everything is physical then how did you feel someone's eyes drilling holes at the back of your head when their eyes cannot and does not physically touch you? Oya lie here.

recklesslove:
Religion is obviously one of the greatest problem we have in Nigeria, Christianity doesn't have fine lines when it comes to demarcating between spirituality n religion. ..

How greatly badly behaved are you people. You people are your own greatest problem and the bottomline is that you people love being a problem to yourselves and to your neighbour.

So whether you go for counselling (go to church) you are first the evil living beasts that you are and the no one anywhere can change you. Only you.

FRANCISTOWN:
On that. Both Yahweh and Allah are the most horrible jerk characters of a god like. They are the most called upon in the century, yet they are as irrelevant as the "s" in aisle.

Even if Yahweh suddenly jumped down from heaven today and goes like "okay guys, I'm the god of the whole universe."
I'd prolly still go on about my business. I wouldn't believe such an irresponsible god like that. Over six million Jews who prayed to him still died horribly so, I wouldn't be surprised he doesn't answer Nigerians.

Says the irresponsible boy who expects and hopes never to be punished for evils he does for every normal person knows that to punish evil doers is right and good and responsible. Only criminals and devils wish never to be punished

LordReed:
Dude, time has already told. Restore an amputee's limb with all the god powers y'all have been boasting of for the past thousands of years, no show. May be when y'all can do that task you can come back to talk. I can bet you anything you like that till you and I die, Jesus will not return, another thing that time has already told. LoLz.

Potential Beast's prophet If you live for the next 30 years you just might see Him Come.

He is much more closer now like the movies warned about Corona, the noise of the coming of the beast has begun, so He would soon be here.

FRANCISTOWN:
We also know that deep down your heart. You are sure there is no god and Jesus is in fact an invention of the Romans, and we know you are scared to reconcile with this truth because you are scared of being stupid realising all you've believed as a kid was total BS.

🤣🤣I'm having so much fun today

Now you have resorted to deflecting and projecting denials exactly what a deluded person living in denial does

You are just trying to cope with what you cannot cope with.

Thorrn:
This part of your objection is not only pointless, it is a dishonest tactic of handwaving aspects of the discussion that you're not comfortable with. The supposition that there is a first cause must carry along a proper definition of the nature of the first cause.

The topic is proof of God, and as I told you from the beginning which you saw, I said no thing about first cause. You are the one not being able to continue since you and your other co-debaters are not able to get past my answer.

We understand why you can't.

Thorrn:
I find this paragraph particularly interesting. If you lack the knowledge of certain deities that have been claimed to exist in our human history, how can you ascertain that

The standard of knowledge requiring me to prove is "All deities" not certain deitie as you can pull any deity from anywhere and immediately I say I do not know it, then you would say, I have not proven God above all other deiies. So,your plan no work.

And all these are still a departure from post and fallacy of demanding the impossible.

Thorrn:
All of the examples you've mentioned read like vague predictions lacking any discernable context. Any "prediction" becomes bereft of any value the moment it is interpreted away from its' literal meaning.

That's not True. There is nothing vague about marry us"/hardness of buying and selling or the fact that Israel is now a single country returning to the place where they were thrown out from.

And the mere fact that no other deity anywhere did not make any notable prediction like these, is a clear and distinct Proof of God as they were all free to predict their own prediction in whatever manner they wanted the world to see it come to pass but they did not because they are no gods just wood, iron and stone.

So in the end you have nothing here.

Thorrn:
By defining the WORLD to mean the earth alone, are you suggesting that your god has no jurisdiction over other parts of the galaxy and other planets etc.? If yes, then who created the universe as a whole, if not your god?

Fallacy of Begging the question and fallacy of composition.

By defining what a ship means does not automatically imply that The Federal High Court does not have jurisdiction over aircraft, territorial waters, airspace etc.

Clearly, you have no way of proceeding witb the argument.

Thorrn:
Opinion? LOL. It is a FACT that the Bible is riddled with so many errors and contradictions that scholars tend to rely excessively on hermeneutics and exegesis if they want to make any modicum of sense from the text.

That's your opinion. The fact is that it is your bad understanding of the bible is which created and causes all the lies you raise against the bible. And this is of course resting on the fact that the bible condemns evil people and consequently evil people will never like it and will always say something is wrong with it. It's as simple as that and everyone knows that is the reason why you people attack the bible.

But anyway, this is off point.

jaephoenix:
Why is it interesting

Because it's like watching a great white behaving like a dolphin

jaephoenix:
From your point, it means Yahweh curses his own people.
Clears stuff up then

From my point, curses fall upon only evil people.

jaephoenix:
Can you define 'evil'?

Yes.

Evil is that act or omission which when done to you by another naturally causes you unbearable pain of such magnitude that you cry for instant remedy, rectification and punishment of the perpetrator

jaephoenix:
Same way you threaten your fellow chrissies with hell fire

Punishment is always a threat to all who do the bad and evil.

jaephoenix:
So why does this spiritual belief cause so much friction in the Christendom? There are thousands of sects all with different spiritual beliefs. Each one saying the other sect isn't spiritual. What does that tell you

Even to address a communal water problem see the friction and fight and interpretations that come out of it, it's just plain human inter action arising basically from the diversity of stand views.

But the common factor is that they agree that the spiritual world is with us.

jaephoenix:
Lol. Of course your eyes turned blind to my other posts where i said this thread was opened when a Christian here, specifically Lawag3 asked me why I deconverted. I told him I'll respond to him later.
Your delusions are getting out of hand. You need to see a shrink and straighten your head. Schizophrenia is a serious psychosis, and you don't have insight. Hope you are married. Marriage kinda improves the prognosis

I saw it and as it shows you confirm this is also a second reason for your post, so I am well in order. Thus, you are the one who needs to fuel your delusions and denials

jaephoenix:
Explain how it's off point?
U insinuated that some children may be wayward (and of course up mean atheistic children). And I pointed out chrissies have wayward kids to. And you are mumbling wayward.
Your delusions of grandeur is getting worse. Seek medical care

The point was to point out that you are aware that sometimes having children is a curse. And the point of this argument is that children and barreness can be curses upon a person. And curses fall upon only evil people whether they are open devils called atheist or closet devils hiding in church claiming Christian. That is the point I have been making since.

Serendipity2023:
Love your neighbor first.

Are cheating, corruption, greed etc fun?

Nope! Loving God is First. Then after I have finished loving my neighbour can I not go swimming, playing tennis and causing laughter while barbecue fish and suya is on the table?

PROVERBZ:
I don’t even know any church goer that does.
It’s the woke Christian’s. The ones that try to be nice all the time.
The Bible was very clear any other gospel apart from this which we preach is of the Antichrist and must be accursed.

Those are definitely churchgoers and not Christians

Expanse2020:
It's true
God may be Allah
But Allah may not be God

God is not Allah and Allah is not God!

Ishmeal's children cannot like God so He casted them out and Cursed them so it is only natural that they would give themselves their own god

LordReed:
I am not arguing with you, I am observing your argument with jaephoenix in which you traps you with your own words and here you are waffling like a wind blown rag. LMFAO!

If your observation was true you would have observed that I was the one who trapped him and he tried turning it in me but in his attempt he went out of the ring (off point) like karate AND THAT IS WHERE HE LOSES!

correctguy101:
Since the mercy of the Lord is abundant why would anyone bother to be "Christ-Like" and miss out on all the fun?

Some will even echo Great Jim Reeves and say: "This world is not our home, we're just passing through". Make dem pass quick na lie. They'll even be praying against death.
Is death not supposed to be the train that'll take them home?

I weak for una thick faced double standards..smh

Did Christ say we should not have fun?

Serendipity2023:
Killing which?

Do you not know your topic again?

PROVERBZ:
I saw this on Twitter this morning. I’m one of those Christian’s that believe is. Lam is of the devil and that it would play a key role in the end times. I came to this conclusion by comparing the eschatology of both religions. I always found the Muslim insistence on associating allah with the Christian God Yahweh as suspicious. Today I saw the church of satan try to do the same. Christian’s know we do not worship the same god as they do, but they insist even tho they know this is wrong.
I do hope to share this so my fellow Christians do not fall for this trick, christ will come and he will judge the world.

It's only churchgoers and atheists who believe that alah is the same as God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

The world is killing them and actually people do not like good things so it is expected

Serendipity2023:
Because I didn't want to generalise, I could comfortably say 99.999999%

Still not a problem

FRANCISTOWN:
Spiritual eyes ko. Deluded eyes ni

Just say that ypu love lies and denials for you already know it's true but we know you deny it because you lose your peace and want to die when you allow it in, hence your denial and proving true the quote that

"Denial is just a means of coping with that which you cannot cope with"

FRANCISTOWN:
It's annoying because it's not genuine.
It would be annoying to you too if someone constantly rings in your ears how Allah will burn you and deny you of 72 virgins

You think people do not know the difference between pepper dem and irritation? Keep living in denial, you kuku need it.

LordReed:
LoLz! He gave you upper cut and destabilised your jaw so as usual you resort to shalaye. Bwahahahahaha!

Says the one on the floor who could not argue on the point! Hehehehehehe Loser! No Road!

Auki:
As a Muslim on this platform, I see Christian poorly representing many of the good teaching in the bible. Their comments and behaviour seems in complete negations of what they professed. I see nothing to emulate from Christian apologists.

Atheist pain points should be addressed with facts and respect not condemnation.

We have addressed all these filths severally and we know that the only reason he made this thread is because he is afraid that many atheists may abandon him in hell fire because an atheist here wants to leave atheism and return to Christianity.

https://www.nairaland.com/7694030/true-christian-became-atheist-beyond#123217663

So we know thst he is not looking for his complaints to be answered but trying to protect himself by stopping/encouraging his atheists brothers not to leave him alone.

LordReed:
That's always what you say when you see you've been trapped by your own words. LMFAO!

That's always what I'll say when an opponent dodges the point of the argument by raising another thing.

And you devils can never argue without going off point.

So this is just you showing that there is no way to argue on the point

Onyiiobi7735:
Lol One thing in common with Nigeria Nairaland atheists is that they are always ranting like rabid animals,as if it would stop Christianity and Islam from existing.
Even atheists in the Western world don't behave and rant like animals like these entities on the forum.
Lol!
There are no atheists on NL.What exists here is frustrated, bitter cowardly, animals who couldn't face up to their fears, and insecurity, entities who are afraid of tackling the questions they have about religion like a reasonable,sane and mature individual.
Rather they lash out online like a demented crocodile, spewing trash which puts into question the state of mental health.
Lol!
Atheists enjoy yourselves.
You go rant tire.
It doesn't disprove God and the Bible.
Atheists/ animals, you all will pass on when the time, but God and the Bible will remain forever.

Exactly!

FRANCISTOWN:
People who died of sickness believed "by his stripes they were healed" or that their god would heal them.
Nwanem, belief does not affect reality

Belief is real eyeity . And we have 2 of it. One physical and easily seen by all and the other Spiritual, seen only by those who see with the spiritual eye.

FRANCISTOWN:
If anyone's disturbing everyone. It should be you christian folks.
From your vigils and services blasting thru high audio speakers to traffic jams on the road during special meetings and conventions, to your stupid evangelism in a public transportation medium.

Coming to Nairaland there is no peace as you keep threatening people with hell fire and demons and Satan.

Atheism is not deceit. You don't need faith. It's what you see, you don't need to believe.
And once you see it, you can't unsee it.

If atheism is not evil and deceitful then you would not be threatened by hellfire.

FRANCISTOWN:
Now tell me or show me one building that your said Jesus has built by himself. How he built it.
Whether he paid for the cement or himself was a labourer...t.

Even you must real eyes that you did not speak well or reasonably.