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zangaozanga:
i beg which innocent man i harm? your sky daddy will punish me for telling you the truth,i don't care what your sky daddy will do because i don't believe in him.

Exactly like saying you don't care what arny chief would do whether you believe in him or not.

And see how stupid you are in not knowing Who you harmed. You shall live and die in frustration and whenever you lament, you shall remember that this is day you cursed God and started to die!

judatech:
Him hear: Fear Women

Woman wey kon get king Ahab as husband, meen, na die-die raise to power 2 be dat.

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zangaozanga:
No,christians are just stupid

You are the one who is stupid in that you do not know that the worst thing you can do to yourself is to harm an innocent man like Cain did.

God would just be packing and loading your punishment.

thinkmoney:
-Mobs burn Christian churches in Pakistan after blasphemy allegations.

-Hindus killed Muslims in India.

-Imams in Ilorin say traditionalists should go practice their religion elsewhere.

Where do you ever hear Christians as a group persecuting others? Is it that Christians are cowards?
Christians are not cowards. In fact, they are politically and economically the most powerful people in the world. It’s just that if truth most be told, something in Christians have conditioned them to tolerate people more than others.
We should start asking ourselves critical questions and start telling ourselves the truth.

Nope.

It is simply that we fear God more and we know that God must punish every guilty soul, even if His judgment is takes time like Egypt"s own.

FRANCISTOWN:
Who is this Jesus sef? That guy and his dad have done more harm than good...

Says you, the former Catholic cursed with frustration and lamentations. You have not seen anything yet.

festacman:
Using your phone and internet to communicate with me now makes you COLONISED too. Do you know the spiritual forces behind the phone and Internet you are using? Do you know if you bow before them and renew allegiance each time you open your phones or go on the net, agreeing to the terms and conditions? You see the written terms and conditions but do you know the content of the unwritten terms and conditions?

And even the English he writes is coloniality at work

Napata77:
...You can also use your inner light to activate a new reality....

Definition of madness and delusion.

vdestro:
The Law of one man, one wife is for man and applies to man.

It can not and does not apply to man's Maker/Law Giver and Lord whom Jesus is to us.

Oh o.

Another angle.

Tekuzukite:
There have been several discussions on this. Some believe Jezebel was a witch while others feel Elijah as just too tired to confront her.

I feel Elijah was actually afraid. When God asked him why he was "running", he said he was the only prophet left and others had been killed. Maybe he felt God might not save him based on past prophets that Jezebel must have killled.

What do you think?

You said it.

Other prophets (of God) had already been killed, by her and her king husband so how is he different from them?

If God had appointed him to die, (like parable explained) so it is, but naturally, he would run and has to run first.

And this is where you see the case of the woman at the well who had more than one husband/ whose wife shall she be wherein The Lord, AGAIN, did not Speak other than to address the issue before Him.

LocalStandard1:
The last time I said I respect someone here he twisted the narrative to make it sound like I said an abominable. But Still, I respect you too for your consistency on God's issues.

But let us not misquote the words of God to fit our new found believes or fear. You never gave me any proves where God rejected polygamy. Polygamy used to be a norm in the old days but the fact you have no prove, no verse to dispute and discredit the practice from the Bible says it is not an abomination in the eyes of God.

God and Messangers talked about even the most little ills of people but polygamy as widespread as it is does have one verse condemning it?
"Male and Female he created them" has nothing to do with polygamous marriage.

I showed you that God, TWICE Said on marriage "Male and Female created He them".

Do you imagine that He does not know the lust guided desires of a man's mind and that you would want all the wives that your hands and.penis can get?

Thiis is obviously one of the several cases where God did not speak much because a word is enough for the wise, not to.talk of TWICE a Word, Wherein God never spoke on.the issue again!

Clearly you people do not know traps and danger when you see one.

The mere fact that everyone does that which is wrong does not make the wrong, Right.

And God's messenger did say "stick to the wife, (not wives) of your youth" and do not deal treacherously with her.

And there is no wife with her freewill, who will ever permit you to marry another woman as they have all confessed!

Fear God and live!

Mamijoh:
I wonder what more you want now. Read Luke 14 from vs 1 to 6. May be, you'll understand it more better.

Read it. And you see he went into the den of his enemies and even in their presence did He do some thing good and he put forth the question and issue of the Sabbath.

And did they arrest Him and charge Him saying that He did an evil or a wrong?

Capital EN. OH. NO!

MiddleDimension:
Again, I am responding to you for the benefit of other people and also of you yourself when you decide to stop being hell-bent on defending a belief that is just plain lies, and start being concerned about what's true!

So now you see you are wrong about "genesis chapter 4 vs 14, there were supposedly only 4 people in the world.".

Ok so now i return to the main issue of the thread.

MiddleDimension:
The whole idea that jesus was limiting the number of wives one can marry to only one with that verse ''in the begining, there was only man and woman...and the two become one'' is just plain wrong!

It is wrong because it implies that Jesus was ignorant of the truth that in the beginning, there were not just only one man and one woman. This is very clear in the bible when Cain said: ''when ANYONE sees him, they will kill him''...

First, He Said, male and female and not one man and one woman.

Secondly, is there any other class of human being beyond being male or female that forms part of the "ANYONE" that Christ did not take cognisance of existing at that time? Eh?

See, bad thinking, bad product.

MiddleDimension:
Your likes, before I pointed it out to you, have always believed the genesis story is literally the correct version of the origin of man, and so believe that Adam and Eve were the first and only two people god created. This is where your belief that a man should have only one wife comes from.

Wrong! This is you imposing a belief you think is my belief. And clearly if you contend the origin of man as recorded by the bible, there isn't any way your assessment will not be corrupted by your disagreement which is already showing.

So.you already have issues. But below is the crux of your argument. And a good one
But i was waiting for someone to go there.

MiddleDimension:
Now, since I have ESTABLISHED that the relationship between the man and the woman is always likened to the relationship between jesus and the individual christian, it is now obvious how ''the two shall become one'' is not violated by polygamy.

When you, Dtruthspeaker, accepted to ne married to jesus and he became your husband while you became his wife, another person could also accept the same jesus and when he does so, jesus becomes that person's husband WHOLE AND ENTIRE, even as he still remains your husband WHOLE AND ENTIRE!...

And this is where if your mind was not corrupt you would have seen why this marriage is not wrong.

Why?

Because of the absence of sin and wrongs, both present and future.

None of the parties to that marriage is complaining nor shall be complaining nor shall ever complain.

When you Look at the rights of all the parties to tbat marriage, not one of them is violated or violatable.

Thus, this marriage is exactly like the one people already do when they marry to do business aka Ltd, GtE and unlimited companies and partnerships as registered in Corporate Affairs Commission.(CAC).

But, there isnt any wife, with her full senses and will, who will ever permit you to marry another woman exactly how you will never permit her to marry another man. The Law of do unto others what you want done unto thee.

IconicR:
They are fond of going to churches to pick a wife and doesn't it contradict their belief

Is lying and pretending and deceit not the qualification to be an atheist?

So it is one of the elements in the atheist creed.

IconicR:
Atheist defender why don't you marry yourselves since you so much hate religion. Hypocrites

Devils dont want devils too! What an irony.

IconicR:
Yes, I don't support it but atheists are always deceiving christian ladies into marriage only to start telling them in the marriage that going to church is not compulsory

It is the other way round. It is the female atheists hiding in church things who are simply returnning to their true base since their plans did not prosper and now they have become desperate!

YinkaOlusesi16:
Marriage outside your religion proves you do not believe your beliefs.

Then it means his belief is in cross religions like politicians.

MiddleDimension:
...You need to stop your self-deception already!
The ''other people'' the bible talked about, were not ''there'' like you said. They were elsewhere hence, he would have to perambulate around to run into them.

Notice how the bible reports what Cain said and you will realize that the ''other people'' he said will kill him when they find him, are not people with whom he is acquainted, not even in the slightest way; they are an entirely DIFFERENT people!...

Examine yourself and see if you are not the deceiver.

You said"...up until genesis chapter 4 vs 14, there were supposedly only 4 people in the world."

Now you admit that there were "other people. who were elsewhere".

Are now not the deceiver?

The Law is he who alleges must prove. So when you accuse our beliefs you must be ensure that you sucesfully and reasonably prove your accusations. You just don't go.accusing a person or a doctrine simply because you do not like it.

MiddleDimension:
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Remember, he is being sent off the land he is familiar with; the same land he probably was born on and had his up bringing.

And then god is sending him away from that land. If the sending away is going to be a punnishement, then it is definitely going to be a land he is unfamiliar with,..

And no one sent him off, he used his hands
to take up a Curse to come upon him. And only spelled out the Curse that came upon him, which includes the Curse of death and insecurity.

Which is why we say when you kil, you can not sleep well and you will always be aftraid and wondering who (your father, brother, cousin, uncle, neighbour etc) or what (dogs, snakes, crocodiles, accident etc) is going to kill you.

Its as simple as that. That is curse that follows murderers Exactly as The Law Said. "He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death".

So, you have no case here at all.

dazzlingd:
Among the billions of blacks that have existed till date, no single one is worthy to be called a saint?

hehehe

Catholics oya, come and say something

Preciosee, vawholense dey here o.

MaxInDHouse:
That means you're in support of what i said nah!

Only in reference to you statement "Are you sure this man himself is not a deceiver?"

Image123:
They are dishonest liars like devil their father. It's obvious.

Finally, you see that most atheists are devils. When they can not logically answer or defend their case, they start lying and twisting and sneakily try to change the argument (changing post) to another separate issue.

Very dishonest people.

MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell you don't want to hear anyone bearing the title "PASTOR" shey?

Case closed!

In a nutshell, the only Person I trust and believe is God and the bible. All others are liars.

Indifferent12:
So atheist should start attacking each other for no reason, people having same opinion on a Matter does mean they are in a religious group.

There might be a subject matter both of us agree on, I won't attack or oppose you when you speak on such matter but that doesn't mean we are in the same religious group.

Like I earlier said, you should use your head and think, but u refuse.

Have you ever seen people agree all the time in the normal world? Never.

The only people who agree all the time are those in a cult (atheists, Mohammed worshippers, jw, Catholics etc) or those who are brainwashed and have lost the right to think.

preciousee17:
It's hard to argue properly when you don't even have the capacity to think in the first place, so you have to rely so much on anything that is easily accessible on Google 😂😂

I'd rather that you don't waste your time on the comrade... I reckon the best answer to a fool is to .....

That is why he is the world's champion of the most stupidest atheist in the universe.

Maynman:
Dumbest theist on nairaland indeed 😂😂

Says the stupidest atheist in the whole universe because as usual, he is once more proven to be the most stupidest atheist in the universe.

MrPRevailer:
In my Church, CHOSEN, we (i.e My G.O) takes follow-up very seriously.

Paul says "Forget not to communicate for with such sacrifice, God is well-pleased".

Several people in my church have testified how remembering their disbelieving relations made them to have encounters (some divine) that led to their conversion. There's nothing prayer cannot do. Jesus said "Have Faith in God"..
Also "when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the Earth"?
We are children of Faith. The Just shall live by Faith.

Not just prayer for a family member, but for all humanity. God works in mysterious ways.

I understand and it is not that you are wrong i only think that people ought to remember that the more they pursue people the more they drive them away. That is just the plain rebellious behavior of human beings.

Especially when you remember how very difficult it was for you yourself to change and what it probably took before you did, so how much more difficult is it when you are now trying to change another person.

I just think that it is more profitable to me to improve and increase my life and living to be better than others than to waste it on a person who likes his own way.

Busybrain2233:
No allow over self confidence finish you, always thinking you're right.

What you dont know being an atheist is that God made it that everything that is right is greater than a wrong and that it must always be greater than it.

And God did it that all the things that are right will always be supported by good and reasonable reasons with no one ever able to impeach it. Which is why my signature says

"There is no valid argument against the Truth".

MrPRevailer:
"God will render to every man according to his works".

"He that reapeth receives wages and gathereth fruit unto life eternal.".

"My reward is with me to give everyman according as his work shall be".

"Whatever you do, do in the name of the Lord, knowing that from the Lord you shall receive the inheritance."

Right and True.

I am only saying that you we have all seen that the more we pursue a person the more they run away. So, those pursuing people are actually driving them.away.

And i think in there, there will be a bad reward for the doers for they are also aware of this phenomenon, so they would have a case to answer.

MrPRevailer:
point of correction, when you pray for them

Only 5% of the time. I am sure you don't take an investment in something that is only successful by 5%.

But well i respect your right to invest.

Maynman:
Read, i was giving you more context that’s why I quoted tanakh, joshua 10:26.
https://www.thetorah.com/article/a-corpse-left-hanging-overnight-is-a-cursing-of-god

Sentencing of a criminal is at the discretion of the Judge. Thus, Joshua exposed the bodies at one time and he burnt king Hazor.

Punishment is always at the discretion of the Judge.