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TenQ:
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Unfortunately for the brute mule, they are willing to say everything as long as it doesn't give glory to God the Chief Designer and Maker.

Rejected children and cast offs can never praise The One Who threw them out and cuts them off from things.

ezejessica:
I have always been in state of confusion especially when I see people talk about life after death, when I see many people worried about life after death and I use to be like why are you worried about life after death since you don't even know where you come from. No one can tell where we came from, they just gv birth to us please tell me something about this life after death if you believe please.

Is a lie you are not in any confusion. You are Just looking for comfort for your fear of death.

budaatum:
I don't believe in life after death. I have never seen a dead person come back to life so it would be silly to believe in made up crap that lacks evidence.

Everyone who has died has remained dead. But if anyone dies and is buried and then has life after death I wouldn't believe then neither because I would know.

P.s. Dead in this instance, means proper death, as in life loss without the possibility of resuscitation. Like cut off the head and died dead.

That's why i can't wait for judgment day when you come back to be thrown into hellfire.

EDOSBROWN:
LAST LAST everyone will go, its a debt we owe, from the rich to the poor, all man must taste death, RIP man

It is not a.debt, it is a trip.

YouandiAllofus:
Thank God for you. But sha do somtin tangible like buying bread from bakeries and selling on the streets or somtin similar that can sustain you for now with d fridge money

The bad thing now is that when there are no more answered prayers and miracles, then he will turn back and.say "God does not exist."

Human beings eh

Hardy123:
You are not making any sense bro.

Maybe because you are irredeemable or something. Its English so you ought to read it and anywhere you have an issue would be followed by a question

Wilgrea7:
And as I told you before, this "god is the destination" statement is pretty useless and unrelated to what I'm talking about.

Then if you say this then you have no right to be enquiring about God and uncaused first causes and other connected purposes, saying ."...But this says nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing about a god.

God is not an answer to the question of complexity..."

So, see, you are still out of line either way.

Nsogbu001:
They dont worship Mary, they honor her.
Get the fact straight

We don't honour people by chanting their names and carrying their pictures up and down.

All the things you do to it is exactly what witches and babalawos do to their gods. You people worsship Mary exactly how Messi's, Davido, burna boys worshippers do

TenQ:
Assignment :
Without the use of machines or any mechanical aid, 10 of you should carry an alligator over the roof of a bungalow from the ground level....

See how they are all complaining because they can never ever do it.

Wilgrea7:
This seems like an appeal to complexity, which has already been dealt with in my most recent thread. But for the sake of this thread, I'll go over it again, and explain a bit more.

Complexity exists. The concept of a thing being "alive" in itself is already complex, talk less of the said thing being involved in some sort of order.

Are what the ants doing impressive? Absolutely. It's almost impossible not to notice the incredible complexity and in some cases, order in just about everything around us. But this says nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing about a god.

God is not an answer to the question of complexity. You're only pushing the question forward, and failing to answer it by alluding to some uncaused first cause as the reason for complexity.. which still doesn't answer the question.

At the end of the day, you arrive at the very answer you dread, which is "it's just the way it is", or "we don't know". In either case, introducing a god into the equation is meaningless.

As I told you the destination is God The Creator of all the things we have seen and experienced in this world.

So, you are out of line when you start going beyond God enquiring into things we have never seen nor known.

So you are over reaching and going beyond the area and scope of argument.

So God is the Answer and that is where every valid argument stops.

People know He exists but their problem is that they never learn that He knows they never want Him so He stays away from them

phemmyfour:
lolz
You don't pluck food from the plate. Have you been to farm before?.

Sure. I have one in front of me and the same way we pluck corn to eat is still the same way we pluck eba.

So, stop being a Pharisee and perverting judgment for we all know what work is and leisurely plucking fruits is not work.

phemmyfour:
You're not immune.

Open your dictionary and check the meaning of immunity

That is why I said "dodging" and "makes you feel like immune" just like a person who has not fallen sick in a long time will feel.

gameova:
So how can l "live according to God?" Please explain clearly cos I don't understand you.

The journey for you is now very very far, very very long and very very hard which is what happens to people your age.

But i believe that if you are truly tired of your present life and you want it to change that you would do everything, no matter how painful for its going to get more painful and more worse because Satan is going to make sure that it does and this is good news for if this does not happen then it means that God is totally finished with you and there is nothing anyone can do (Remember the door no one can open when God shuts it? Hope, its not your case)

And if you still have to chance then since you went to church then you should know where to start.

phemmyfour:
No, you are not immune to sin. You are aware of sinful act and recognizes when you sinned and ask God for forgiveness

The correct one is that you are aware of all the things which are sins and you take every reasonable step to dodge all of them.

It is that dodging and combination of all these that makes you feel immune

phemmyfour:
Read the passage with an open mind . The Pharisees didn't accuse the disciples of eating on the Sabbath day

Their wrong is in calling plucking to eat, "work" forgetting therefore that if that judgment is applied, then they are too are guilty for surely, they must use their hands to pluck food from the plate to eat, which according to them is work.

So, they should first arrest and punish themselves before they can arrest and punish anyone else.

So, again, their act was vain and a nullity.

phemmyfour:
Did Jesus replied the Pharisees that they bent the law or wrongly classified his disciples action? ...

Did He need to? Are there not many ways to address an issue?

The most important thing is that we all know when a judgment is Wrong and the Pharisees judgment here was very wrong and untrue and unjust for it is lawful to eat on the Sabbath day and in this case to eat they required plucking exactly as spooning rice to eat.

And i know that you would scream that it is unjust for anyone to say that it is work and breach of the Sabbath if they saw you eating rice with your spoon on the Sabbath day.

gameova:
Bro but what he said is not far from the truth. One has to take charge of life without waiting for a supreme being to help.
It's making Nigerians lazy without inventions. Most of the things we complain about is completely non existent in developed countries. Despite all our prayers we are still were we are. I still believe in God but i don't think he interfers directly in our affairs.

Were you not in charge of your life since? Are you not still in charge of your life now? If it was working you would not be complaining and lamenting here.

And how many Nigerians can you point out that truly believe in God?

Nigerians belief in God is just stinkingly empty and in the mouth only for "He does not believe that does not live according to his belief." Thomas Fuller.

So, if you are not living according to God, then you do not believe in God.

Your belief is somewhere else. Its as simple as that.

Uchesis:
WHICH DAY IN PARTICULAR IS THE SABBATH DAY? AND I NEED PROOF OF YOUR ANSWER PLS

There are many sabbaths. The most popular one is the Sabbath of the 7th day what is now called Saturday which everyone knows.

But there are other Sabbaths like July is a Sabbath month and it had about 3 or 4 sabbaths of which one of them fell on a Monday. Leviticus 23:23-36

gameova:
Thank you very much sir. I'm becoming very much enlightened now. All you said can't be debated cos it's truth. Awaiting the thread.

And you wonder why you are depressed and wish to die. Anyway, its your affliction.

Uchesis:
Should he work on sundays, yes or no?
Stop beating about the bush

I have already answered it here. You are free to work on Sunday.

And I add that you can work and rest on any day, however, YOU MUST NOT WORK ON THE SABBATH DAYS.

And people are not paying attention that there are many sabbaths to be obeyed, not just the Sabbath of the 7th day.

But as usual, people never listen to God not to talk of doing as they please, then they wonder why God never hears them. But no problem, na dem go carry dia problem for head.

phemmyfour:
You are on your own . Even the Pharisees called it "work".

Everyone knows not to go to the Pharisees for judgments and we all see that they bent The Law so that they could say that Christ has done a wrong.

But by the standards of good judgment, this does not qualify as work, which is why even you did not judge it work but merely repeated that those who had a murderous interest of finding a reason to kill Christ called it so.

Proving that no just and reasonable person wiil ever call it work.

Uchesis:
Even if the person has God, it doesn't mean God will throw money down from heaven for him because he didn't work on a sunday. Allow people that want to work on sunday to work.

That is where the difference lies. A person who has found God shall be blessed in his work for he shall work, in the days of work and God shall show him and shock him and surprise with shocking bountiful harvests.

zangaozanga:
That's the original goal of titles, but Nigerian pastors Don turn am to business,

Correct!

phemmyfour:
vs 11

Which one of you who has a sheep, if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not take hold of it and lift it out?

Thanks. I saw this and this cannot be reasonably classified as work either.

phemmyfour:
Read further. Christ gave more examples

Please refer me. I did not see any the last time I read it

Uchesis:
The way country be now, you need to work everyday and even twice on sundays to survive. Church wont feed you and your family ooo

Which is automatica proof that a person does not have God!

Porksupplyib:
I don't know who needs to hear this today, but please learn this;

"Going to church is not serving God!"

Going to church is simply gathering of believers to share the word and strengthen one another in the faith.

Serving God is what you do everyday of your life. It is either you are living your life to serve God or you are not. Serving God is what you do to your neighbours, your friends, people you meet etc.

I know this has been the believe for many. That is why we crowd the church every Sunday and return to our sinful ways all week. We believe going to church is "serving God" and will make God happy with us. That I tell you is a big deceit.
And God is not fooled.

So I admonish us today. Live your life in service to God. And don't try to decieve yourself.

Correct.

I think it should change from "serving God" to "obeying God"!

hisgrace090:
Obedience to the word of God is the number one before going to church follows .
It's a fruitless move going to church when you're not ready to obey and love Him.

That is it!

shogotermies:
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I believe God made Sunday for rest and he commanded it.

What is your own opinion?
And if I’m wrong, tell me why with scriptural references. Thanks in advance

Wrong, Saturday is the day of the rest as it is the 7th day. That is even why.The Lord skipped it and came back (rose up) on the day allowed for work.

Also on the day Hie ascended, He also avoided the Sabbath.

And dont you find it curious that it is on the day that the Sabbath begins (friday evening) that is now the most unholy night?

Do you not see that the world is sealing and guaranteeing it that people must break every Law of God?

phemmyfour:
Read your Bible OP, Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath . It's not a sin to work on the Sabbath day...

It is and in this scenario no reasonable person can say taking a walk and plucking fruits is a type of work.

pradoyeep:
When someone repents from sin, is it necessary they go and make amends with those they hurt in the past: those they stole from, those they hurt, those they cheated on, those they deceived? Or should they just repent and move on?
If someone stole from someone and later repents, should he return the stolen good(s) or apologize to the person after Repentance? If someone commits adultery before repentance, should they confess to their partners after Repentance?

Of some sort. Your spirit will point out which one of your cases requires restitution.

However, you will always pay for yoursind or have paid for your them and for adultery, you must pay for it and whether you confess or not know that your spouse already knows.

It is only a dead person in the grave who does not know when their spouse has cheated.