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paxonel:
So,how does pastor Dolapo Lawal relate this position with

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
everybody commit sin„whether the person is Christian or not (Romsns 3:23)..

Did the pastor say that we do not have sins? No.

What he said is to the effect that we must stop sinning exactly as Jesus commanded.

When you forgive your children's sins yesterday does it mean that you have forgiven today when they disrespectfully spited you in front of the family today? No.

Forgiveness today is for yesterday's sins and it cannot cover next week's sins, so the forgiven must stop sinning if he does not want to have fresh cases against him.

So, you are the one who is wrong

kayjordan:
Good question!

Those who know my value, will answer me.

Are you not answering me?

True!
You have value but do i need or want your value? No

I am answering you not for myself but on behalf of God who always has already answered you and always has someone to answer you.

kayjordan:
Since you're anti-rich and PRO-POOR, are you happy with the current life?

Or are you angry that you don't belong where you wish to belong?

Who told you I'm poor and that i am not where I want to be? I don't want to make you miserable but the thing is those of us who have found the salvation of God are enjoying our lives, why do you think that we can confidently say that God answers prayers? We know why He does not answer others

maasoap:
You see your life again? Do you people comprehend at all when you read something?

Hunkul go and wash ya head from American movies and go and read real books

1) In Nigeria, have you heard anyone doing prenup? No. E get why!

If you had read instead of using American movies you would have seen that Prenup is for preventing the splitting of properties, which does not happen in Nigeria. So, you are talking oh pee

You know you have to pay for the location meanwhile KAI, agberos and local government people will still come and spoil/sieze your produce

angelboy01:
The same old testament said God hates people burning their kids. That's the bone of contention here that hell doesn't exist for humans to scream, burn eternally. Moreover humans are made from dust and demons or satan were made from fire so where do you expect them to live before? And please stop comparing humans and angels/demons. They are two different things.

Is burning kids not witchcraft? Besides, in His case it is adults that are being burnt and not kids.

Then you said "creations" so it does not matter what materials those creations were created from. Then you forgot that man is just like angels/demons, for he was created to be like them, so all join

Paulnoma:
Read through the old testaments and see why all you said above is inaccurate, lucifer and all the angels who rebelled are also God's creation, but they are reserved for eternal damnation, every man has an option in their lifetime to either believe and not be condemned (john 3:17).

It's foolishness to use human thinking to understand God, read the Bible with an open heart, it's all clearly stated there.

Didn't you read the story of Lazarus and the rich man ?

He's trying to manipulate God like he does to his fellow humans in saying that God is love na, so he should not flog and puni... them. Something that does not even always work with humans self.

They don't know that they have committed Ananias and Sapphira sin

angelboy01:
Oga you aren't a Godly person to begin with, why are you using foul language. Anyways, if you believe in hell hold on to it. I don't believe in it not by force. Moreover there are 5000 religion al over the world so only yours is right. Cheers.

Did i say i am sinless? Stop shifting post. No one is forcing you to behave it and neither does it ask you to believe in it. Not to talk of the fact if did not believe in it, then you won't be making all these desperate arguments and shifting post up and down. So remember to separate your personal wishes from facts. Cheers

Goo0dHardDick:
You have said it all.

Women weaponized sex because men act too desperate for it. That's the smartness we're talking about.

A woman literally becomes powerless if she cannot control a man with sex. This is why a man must have lots of options.

The key word is Calculative. From the first day a woman accepted a man or met a man, she'll already calculating what she can benefit from him.

That is it

Goo0dHardDick:
Preach bro peach!

The guy on the post was sooo unhappy because he couldn't get the iPhone x for a broke girlfriend somewhere probably with a guy enjoying her self

Money and folz don't stay together

marlow1962:
And yet they still get played by the same men they claimed they're smarter than.

Funny you op, the boy you have an encounter with is just a plain fol and nothing else.

Most men are folz when it gets to do with women, but that one fol got played, doesn't men that women are smarter than men.

By the wails here we can see men are the ones who have been played. And even look at the man's playing, he just wipes and dumps her, Dat one na playing?

By the carnage they have done it is true that women are smarter. These are people who have been watching and testing you since primary 4, you now think you are smarter? Not to talk of our mad want of sex.

It is when you remove sex from the matter is when you would see how women will flee from you.

Sex is womens' power and then men want it, ah! That means that they must win all the time na

Kemical23:
If God is answering prayers why not pray to be a billionaire before night fall...

Poor atheists. Always thinking that riches cures everything.
Like you would be happy if he is a billionaire tomorrow. You kukuma know that no one will answer your prayers

kayjordan:
The question is if God answers prayers at all? If there's anything like him up in the sky?

As you are who will answer you?

Goosethetruth:
Have you ever heard of the FISH BOWL EFFECT?
It is a scientific fact that the size of the bowl limits the growth of the fish.
It is the same thing with RELIGION!
It limits your intellect. That is why people like you attempt to limit an so called omniscient and omnipotent being to human capacity.
All gods were created by minds of men to CONTROL other men.

Lol....😕

This is Off Point! I thought you were going to say that the fishbowl created itself instead of complaining that he is using simple everyday things to explain your foll...🤣🤣

maasoap:
Lol. Why are you making kid's argument? You're arguing like someone who doesn't understand the law at all.
Everything they owned before and during the marriage has become one and tangled together unless there is prenup agreement or expressly stated.
May be you are thinking that after the divorce, they will ask husband what are his properties and money and he should go with all of it? You think the court will ask the wife the same question? Don't make me laugh

See American movie has filled your head. If it was so, then Regina Daniel's, basketmouth's wife, ay's wife' frank edohor's wife etc should have split their properties and gone.

So, shake your head and beat out the brain soaping you have from American movies kid.

angelboy01:
God is love not evil bro, please understand that. A loving God won't sentence his creation infinitely for a sin he committed in a finite world.. An omniscient, omnipotent God already knew me before he formed me. So why will he create me to burn in hell for a meaningless sin as little as adultery. Even an eartly judge won't sentence you to death by burning..

Yes, God is love and love is just! And just is dictates that everyone must given their just is reward be it good or evil.

The new heaven and earth is the reward of the righteous, thus lake of fire is the reward of the evil.

And you say adultery is meaningless yet when your wife did it, you wanted ki.... her and send her to hel just for the first one she did. So imagine what hel you would send her to if you count that she has done it 3200 times?

Please delu yourself, don't deceive others and increase your puni....t

Goosethetruth:
Lol...
All religions and gods therein are mere creations from the minds of men to suppress and control other men. The sooner you realise this is the quicker you free yourself from the fish bowl syndrome that holds your intellectual capacity hostage of man made religion.

Go back and read the first commandment on that list with your intellect and think deeply what it means?!

The first commandment goes like this:

1. "YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME...."

Reading this critically,you come to realise this god accepts and knows there are other gods beside him but his ego,insecurities, narcissism and vanity will not allow him tolerate the worship of other gods.
Obviously this god knows it is man made as are all the other thousands of various gods.

Except you free your mind and way of thinking you will remain a prisoner of the religious fish bowl.

And in your critical thinking it makes sense to create what criticizes them and throw them in hel? See, you are not wise at all

Besides, do you not have wiz kid, burna boy, Davido, Messi, Ronaldo as your gods? Don't they exist? So as you made them exist go to their doors and land and do as you like and let them save you from other gods and God after all God did call your name when He said you shall not have any other God. So, you can take it that He was not talking to you

Sirchiboy:
It was so unfortunate.
My stature betray me.
Lost all my savings 17.5m I would have used to better my life within one yea in the name of women.
If there is no effects , I would have chop off my Dickson long ago..
I don't blame my uncles who could not make it in life.
It was women that destroy their life

Like this guy

https://www.nairaland.com/6805830/area-guys-scectrely-video-pastor#106801674

Very correct! It is always Number
1. But when you are the one who beat them, then they will do like you did.

However, when you see Number 2, know that though you beat her, e no too pain am, so she recovers enough to talk to her people. But when you overcome her ehn, she no go fit move or talk like you

gohf:
If you are clever by a 'full' then you should learn what extole and encourage means before you misuse it like a 'full'

So let those who are wise read and check how did God, praise, make high, glorify, support, motivate, recommend or give a command for establishing slavery

Exod.21.2 "If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. (NIV)

Humans decided to take each other has slaves and Moses wrote laws to govern the behavior of Israelites towards their slaves remembering they were one slaves. So because a person is a slave to you doesn't mean he can do and undo to them, you shall not commit murder, their freedom belongs to you not their life.

Exod.21.19 - If the injured person is later able to walk again, even with a crutch, the assailant will be innocent. Nonetheless, the assailant must pay for time lost because of the injury and must pay for the medical expenses.
Exod.21.20 - "If a male or female slave is beaten and dies, the owner must be punished.
Exod.21.21 - If the slave recovers after a couple of days, however, then the owner should not be punished, since the slave is the owner's property.
Exod.21.22 - "Now suppose two people are fighting, and in the process, they hurt a pregnant woman so her child is born prematurely. If no further harm results, then the person responsible must pay damages in the amount the woman's husband demands and the judges approve.


God frees slaves and prisoners yet they both still exist.

God nor His church established slavery, the apostles taught how we should treat and love people around us. What? Were you expecting the church to abolish the government of the world?

Col.3.22 - You slaves must obey your earthly masters in everything you do. Try to please them all the time, not just when they are watching you. Obey them willingly because of your reverent fear of the Lord.
Col.3.23 - Work hard and cheerfully at whatever you do, as though you were working for the Lord rather than for people.

Bro most Nigerians are slave, we work for what we eat and what we wear daily, the rest is taken away by our owners or leaders. The church had no legal authority to abolish Roman slavery, or you want to use your cleverness by a "ful" to tell us how the church would have abolished it or should they have told them, rebel, kill your masters, rape their daughters, hurt them back.

Okay, Peter, I bet you didn't read those verse nor will you read this, Mr. Clever
1Pet.2.17 - Show respect for everyone. Love your Christian brothers and sisters. Fear God. Show respect for the king.
1Pet.2.18 - You who are slaves must accept the authority of your masters. Do whatever they tell you--not only if they are kind and reasonable, but even if they are harsh.
1Pet.2.19 - For God is pleased with you when, for the sake of your conscience, you patiently endure unfair treatment.
1Pet.2.20 - Of course, you get no credit for being patient if you are beaten for doing wrong. But if you suffer for doing right and are patient beneath the blows, God is pleased with you.
1Pet.2.21 - This suffering is all part of what God has called you to. Christ, who suffered for you, is your example. Follow in his steps.


1Tim.6.1 Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. (NLT)

Or serve so well, wait that's what Joseph did and some how he ended up in prison nah, he passed through the prison and became the prime minister of the greatest nation of that era.

The gospel was also for the slaves not for them to be enslaved but for them to find freedom even in humanly caused situation, to focus on serving God and look at their situation as an opportunity to show God's love. Whether you are free or a slave.

Eph.6.5 - Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.
Eph.6.6 - Work hard, but not just to please your masters when they are watching. As slaves of Christ, do the will of God with all your heart.
Eph.6.7 - Work with enthusiasm, as though you were working for the Lord rather than for people.
Eph.6.8 - Remember that the Lord will reward each one of us for the good we do, whether we are slaves or free.
Eph.6.9 - And in the same way, you masters must treat your slaves right. Don't threaten them; remember, you both have the same Master in heaven, and he has no favorites.

Not to talk about the fact that he is talking of the period when slaves were equal to animals and furniture.

Ai+
Enslaved people were legally classified as property, or "chattel." They were stripped of fundamental human rights and could be bought, sold and inherited.

So, God's Laws were the morality of that period

Goosethetruth:
Like I said earlier, you can twist and turn like a pretzel and turn as much Amala and Eba as you want. The simple fact is the Christian God and his book do NOT once condemn slavery but rather promote and advocate for slavery as an institution of virtue!!!
Show me one place in your holy book where just one of the holy men inclusive of Jesus,condemned slavery just once!!!
Lol...

And these passages prove you are lying

Here are where God condemns slavery

1) Leviticus 19:18 "Thou shall not steal (whether persons or things. Exodus 20:15/17 expanded its scope) neither deal falsely".

It is dealing falsely to take a houseboy/girl for service which is what you told their lawful Masters (parents) only for you to turn them to slaves in your house and beating and evil treating them.

2) Leviticus 25:17 "Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God:"

3) Exodus 23:9 "Thou shalt not oppress a stranger:

4) Exodus 20:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger nor oppress him:

5) Exodus 20:22 "ye shall not afflict ...a fatherless child".

6) Exodus 23:2 "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil:"

7) Exodus 23:6 "Thou shalt not wrest the judgement of thy poor in his cause"

Not to talk that He even freed slaves

if a slave escapes do not return him. Deuteronomy 23:15

Meaning He is Free.

Another Proof that God is Against Slavery and Sought the freedom of Slaves

EnemyofGod4:
You see imaginary Satan in me,not we .who are we ?

Everybody is seeing it why do you think that they ignore you and turned the thread you just opened into a market place?

Goosethetruth:
Does the Christian God and his religious book encourage and promote self vanity or not? Does the Bible advocate violence and genocide on innocent people? Does the Christian God promote narcissist behaviour? Does this God encourage human sacrifice? Does this God advocate for slavery as an institution? Does this God advocate for misogynistic behaviour towards women? Does this God show elements of tribalism?
I will not use any facts except the passages in the Holy book of this self styled omniscient and omnipotent being.

He does not as i have already shown you that on slavery you are lying. So anyone you bring i will bring the passage that shows that you are lying

Goosethetruth:
..Here are passages from the Bible that extole and encourage slavery as an institution of virtue. Please get out your Bible and fact check me!

1.Exodus chapter 21 verses 20-21
2.Exodus chapter 21 verse 2.
3. Leviticus chapter 25. Verse 44.
And if in your usual way of deflection that the New Testament has wiped away the old laws here is the books of the New Testament glorifying and promoting slavery as a virtue.
Please open your Bible to the New Testament to fact check me again!!!

3. Colossians chapter 3 verse 22.
4. 1st Peter chapter 2 verse 18.
5. 1st Timothy chapter 6 verse 1.
Ephesians chapter6 verse 5.

Now you are free to start contorting like a pretzel and start turning Eba and Amala.
Lol..

Lies from the Bible ivus like you created

What those passages said are "servants" and service and servitude is lawful.

Here are where God condemns slavery

1) Leviticus 19:18 "Thou shall not steal (whether persons or things. Exodus 20:15/17 expanded its scope) neither deal falsely".

It is dealing falsely to take a houseboy/girl for service which is what you told their lawful Masters (parents) only for you to turn them to slaves in your house and beating and evil treating them.

2) Leviticus 25:17 "Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God:"

3) Exodus 23:9 "Thou shalt not oppress a stranger:

4) Exodus 20:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger nor oppress him:

5) Exodus 20:22 "ye shall not afflict ...a fatherless child".

6) Exodus 23:2 "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil:"

7) Exodus 23:6 "Thou shalt not wrest the judgement of thy poor in his cause"

Not to talk that He even freed slaves

if a slave escapes do not return him. Deuteronomy 23:15

Meaning He is Free.

Another Proof that God is Against Slavery and Sought the freedom of Slaves

EnemyofGod4:
Your problem is , you have comprehension problem, that's why I don't like reply to your quoting,

Didn't you read where I said,

God, Satan Jesus Christ Angels and demons doesn't exist ? And there's no reliable concretable approvable evidence of their existence ?

Your problem is maybe seeing problems for it's been said "people no dey ever dey see demselves"

Yet, we see satan in you!

So you can't say he don't exist

Goosethetruth:
I would rather condemn the evil act of slavery instead of being vain and egotistically making the first three laws about myself as if I am insecure despite claiming to be omnipotent and omniscient!!!

Was the slavery not condemned by Him bringing out the slaves from Egypt?

See, you lack wisdom

The way Muslims hate Christians ehn, it clearly tells you that God and satan is real!

Ushame:
well, fortunately for the guy, his mother was kind enough to not do that.


When a mother does that, she is no longer a mother. A living child is blameless, so a dead child is automatically what ?


We are talking about a mother that takes care of a child and at tough times of life, the man starts seeing his mother as the root of his problems.

So taking care of a child and keeping him alive wipes off the fact that the mother does not like him progressing and does everything to stop his progress?

You are waiting for death to occur before you know that your mother was a whicht? Is it not already too late?