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EnemyofGod4:
You see imaginary Satan in me,not we .who are we ?

Everybody is seeing it why do you think that they ignore you and turned the thread you just opened into a market place?

Goosethetruth:
Does the Christian God and his religious book encourage and promote self vanity or not? Does the Bible advocate violence and genocide on innocent people? Does the Christian God promote narcissist behaviour? Does this God encourage human sacrifice? Does this God advocate for slavery as an institution? Does this God advocate for misogynistic behaviour towards women? Does this God show elements of tribalism?
I will not use any facts except the passages in the Holy book of this self styled omniscient and omnipotent being.

He does not as i have already shown you that on slavery you are lying. So anyone you bring i will bring the passage that shows that you are lying

Goosethetruth:
..Here are passages from the Bible that extole and encourage slavery as an institution of virtue. Please get out your Bible and fact check me!

1.Exodus chapter 21 verses 20-21
2.Exodus chapter 21 verse 2.
3. Leviticus chapter 25. Verse 44.
And if in your usual way of deflection that the New Testament has wiped away the old laws here is the books of the New Testament glorifying and promoting slavery as a virtue.
Please open your Bible to the New Testament to fact check me again!!!

3. Colossians chapter 3 verse 22.
4. 1st Peter chapter 2 verse 18.
5. 1st Timothy chapter 6 verse 1.
Ephesians chapter6 verse 5.

Now you are free to start contorting like a pretzel and start turning Eba and Amala.
Lol..

Lies from the Bible ivus like you created

What those passages said are "servants" and service and servitude is lawful.

Here are where God condemns slavery

1) Leviticus 19:18 "Thou shall not steal (whether persons or things. Exodus 20:15/17 expanded its scope) neither deal falsely".

It is dealing falsely to take a houseboy/girl for service which is what you told their lawful Masters (parents) only for you to turn them to slaves in your house and beating and evil treating them.

2) Leviticus 25:17 "Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God:"

3) Exodus 23:9 "Thou shalt not oppress a stranger:

4) Exodus 20:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger nor oppress him:

5) Exodus 20:22 "ye shall not afflict ...a fatherless child".

6) Exodus 23:2 "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil:"

7) Exodus 23:6 "Thou shalt not wrest the judgement of thy poor in his cause"

Not to talk that He even freed slaves

if a slave escapes do not return him. Deuteronomy 23:15

Meaning He is Free.

Another Proof that God is Against Slavery and Sought the freedom of Slaves

EnemyofGod4:
Your problem is , you have comprehension problem, that's why I don't like reply to your quoting,

Didn't you read where I said,

God, Satan Jesus Christ Angels and demons doesn't exist ? And there's no reliable concretable approvable evidence of their existence ?

Your problem is maybe seeing problems for it's been said "people no dey ever dey see demselves"

Yet, we see satan in you!

So you can't say he don't exist

Goosethetruth:
I would rather condemn the evil act of slavery instead of being vain and egotistically making the first three laws about myself as if I am insecure despite claiming to be omnipotent and omniscient!!!

Was the slavery not condemned by Him bringing out the slaves from Egypt?

See, you lack wisdom

The way Muslims hate Christians ehn, it clearly tells you that God and satan is real!

Ushame:
well, fortunately for the guy, his mother was kind enough to not do that.


When a mother does that, she is no longer a mother. A living child is blameless, so a dead child is automatically what ?


We are talking about a mother that takes care of a child and at tough times of life, the man starts seeing his mother as the root of his problems.

So taking care of a child and keeping him alive wipes off the fact that the mother does not like him progressing and does everything to stop his progress?

You are waiting for death to occur before you know that your mother was a whicht? Is it not already too late?

EnemyofGod4:
The imaginary God didn't gave Moses any imaginary ten commandments,the story of Moses is just a fairly tale,not real.

God , Satan, Jesus Christ, Angels and demons doesn't exist, there's no reliable concretable approvable evidence of their existence,

heaven and hellfire is just a figment of imagination, it's not real.

Open your eyes and free yourself from religious bondage.

Thanks for showing that satan is real!

Goosethetruth:
The laws may not have been plagiarised but these laws were certainly influenced by earlier Babylonian civilisation.

Did you not say morality is innate?
So, which land anywhere did not already know and have the laws which you want to claim influenced, The Law?

As you said it is innate, therefore, the law was not influenced by anybody's civilisation, to even remember that God hated those civilisations and wiped them out. So how can He then be influenced by them?

Goosethetruth:
I tend to ignore your inane posts in the religious section because of your one track mind but just look at where your one track closed mind took this discussion....Tinubu?!
What has that got to do with the fact that the ten commandments are not original to Moses and the Hebrew God? The ancient Babylonians had written the codes of Hamurabi thousands of years before Moses and his ten commandments.
What has Tinubu got to do with the fact that Morality is inate inside every human being or that morality evolves as mankind advances in knowledge and societal development?
What has Tinubu got to do with the fact that morality does not come from words plagiarised and written on tablets of stone ?

I know your usual modus operandi which is to resort to insults or try to derail threads. My last response to you.

You are just running away because you know when I answer you, you can never have a reasonable and valid reply.

For see it now, i have answered you and now you have changed post. In the post i responded to did you say that the 10 commandments are not original?

No!

Nor, did i deny that morality is not inate?

See, you have changed post because, there is no valid argument against the Truth, and so you run cos when I come and say the Truth, you cannot reasonably rebut nor counter it.

dahmie2013:
I couldn't agree more OP. Before, I usually criticised men who lust after women, but now I don't. Especially in the wake of these homosexualism. It's better for a man to lust after a woman, than a man. The world needs healing from this epidemic the devil is spreading.

It is not better. Both are going to the same place, though hom 0 is worser

EnemyofGod4:
Because Some pastor's has come to realized that hellfire doesn't exist,

God , Satan, Jesus Christ, Angels and demons doesn't exist, there's no reliable concretable approvable evidence of their existence,

heaven and hellfire is just a figment of imagination, it's not real.

Open your eyes and free yourself from religious bondage.

You wish!
When bandits or cancer catch you would change your statement

gohf:
does our society morality include people loving God?

To love, is morality.


Character hapu mu.

Goosethetruth:
Lol...
This guy again.
I tend to ignore your one track mind which reflects untruths and half truths.

Then point out the untruth if you truly can else you are caught by The Law of "There's no valid argument against the Truth

angelboy01:
Hell doesn't exist and even God proved it doesn't.

Jeremiah 19:5
They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind.

Deuteronomy 18:10
“Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire…”

Deuteronomy 12:31
The nations “burn even their sons and daughters in the fire” to their gods — something God says He hates.

This is God himself speaking against people who burn humans for whatever and God explicitly said it has never entered his mind and he hates it.

God Spoke against murder, so do you say murder does not exist?

Meanwhile, those are man's own hels
Leviticus 6:13 shows us God's own hel, so don't disi.. yourself

Goosethetruth:
Interesting.
Don't you find it strange and egotistical that this God spends almost half of these commandments talking about himself and what he wants?
Like I said,I find it interesting that an omnipotent God seems so insecure.

How does our not doing what He wants affect Him? Is it not you people that suffer and cry.(Today's world has already proven it.) So, you see, you think unwisely

Goosethetruth:
The point I am putting across to you is the fact that morality does not come from just a bunch of written laws on a stone tablet or a piece of paper.
Morality stems from many different factors such as inate empathy.
Evolution of empathy helps humans understand each other better.
Secondly human reason helps people develop the aim of the greatest good for the greatest number of people.
While I agree that religion may play a part in morality,it is obvious that as humanity progresses and thought process evolves,religion itself has to evolve and adopt the rules that benefit the greatest number of people in the society.
Morality is inate. It is in born. It is the human ability to distinguish right from wrong. It does not totally come from a set of rules written in a religious book. It is the humans that wrote the rules in the religious books.

Yes, there was already morality even before Abraham gave birth to Isaac and Jacob.

But no book has ALL THE Moral laws man needs to know and live rightly above the Bible.

That is the point of the op i believe

gohf:
so we should imprison them for the rest of their lives or have them burn on a stake...

I did not dictate nor prescribe what shall happen to them. All I'm saying is that thank God she did not say that God Said that we should pray for them. So there is no problem here.

AntiChristian:
Do Christians still need to obey the law?

I thought Paul has cancelled it all for y'all.

Paul actually said obey the Law. 1 Thessalonians 4:2-8/11 &12.

And more beyond Thessalonians

TheMadame:
Does all morality come from the 10 commandments and the subsequent paraphrasing by our Lord Jesus Christ? I sincerely believe it does. The 10 commandments are the basis of all forms of morality and moral justice.
Love God with all your heart and do onto your neighbor as you will have them do onto you.

Good day everyone.

You are correct however, the 10 commandments do not stand alone. They are further reinforced by God's Ordinances, Precepts and Judgements. And these too contain all the moralities that are in the world.

TheMadame:
Jesus modified these ten commandments into two commandments in the New Testament . Jesus said:
1. Love your God with all your heart
and soul.

2. Love your neighbor as yourself.

This is found in the Gospel of Mathew Chapter 22. Verses 37-39.



Chapter 22.

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.

Wrong!

He did not modify it. He simply gave us the secret behind them. And any intelligent person can see that His Lightenment goes on all through the commandments eg. The 3rd commandment is like the second; and the 4th like the 3rd and so on.

So, nothing was modified.

maasoap:
I don't know the separation you're talking about. Won't they need money and properties to live their life separately?

Do they not have the things they owned or acquired before/during the marriage? Everyone would go their tents or their father's/mother's tent as the case may be

Thank God you did not show any scripture which says we should pray for them, so, you are just talking your own

Jesus will not lock out a friend and a friend will not be locked out, so therefore, it means that those locked out, wrongly thought that by their being in His presence was a relationship. They need to go and study what a relationship means

vanvickie:
I don't think the law is absolute. I think there are exceptions, like evidence of threat to life DV, serious neglect and abuse etc. Also, nobody said they must live under the same roof for the two years innit? One person can move out.

Yes, there are exceptions however it is almost impossible to meet that bar, hence why many die in marriages.

And since you agree that the couple must not live together, then that is divorce; constructive divorce

AllBlack:
Everything you said now points to ignorance on her part. She was assuming when she had all the time to ASK him for an affirmation. The court does not ride on assumptions.

C'mon man don't be harsh on her. she must ask him. It is natural to ask. However, that is the power of constructive divorce. If divorce was easy then this case would be against her as it would be clear that if Ajayi did not divorce his wife and his wife did not divorce him either then it means that they never intended to divorce since it is very easy to divorce. So no constructive divorce.

However, as presently constituted, divorce is not a stroll to the mall and so, it naturally discourages people from going through the process which is even very costly, hence most people rather create the constructive divorce situation.

QuinQQ:
See, the idea is to PREVENT divorce because people who want divorce today may not want it tomorrow. So all that process gives time for tempers to cool and time for reconciliation before divorce becomes final

That was the idea in those days when marriages was seen as good and taken very seriously and of course no one planned to divorce. But today, yes marriage is good but it is also bad and so divorce is in mind. So, couples today do not really require a cooling off period.

In those days, the couple thought the offending spouse could change. Today, the couple know that there won't be a change. So, it's either they stay married and endure or they divorce

AllBlack:
Who cares what she thought or was thinking?

The court does. It's all about representation. There is no way that you would see a married man everyday and you do not see him with a wife or children that you won't reasonably presume that he is married. Even worse is when he confirms that he has left his house. That is implied and constructive divorce and it is natural for her to act on it.

maasoap:
Divorce is not as simple as marriage, a lots of things would be involved during the divorce process which we all know that registry can't handle, most especially money, properties, kids, etc

Just like marriage takes place usually even before the couples start having rights and liabilities, so also divorce can take place and then like psqaure brothers who "divorced" first, they can still sue each other for their rights and liabilities.

So, divorce is separable from determining the rights and liabilities of the former couple

This is where you see that women are out to dis troy men