₦airaland Forum

Tomahawk99:
Most people are religious because of the fear of hell fire.
Religion thrives on fear.

Everything thrives on fear!

You work because of the fear of starvation and death

You drive carefully because of the fear of grievous bodily harm and death.

You do not steal because of grievous bodily harm and death!

Fear, is The Law!

So, we are within reasonable limits!

youngsahito:
This isn't Nigeria.

I concur! This is not Nigeria.

jesusjnr2020:
Adam was hours or minutes old, because God made them both on the same day, the sixth day.

Genesis 1:31 (KJV)

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

So Adam was not even up to a day old.

God bless.

You missed Genesis 2:19 Where God attended the Naming Ceremony of the beasts, birds and every living creature.

And of course this event would take time.

And this happened before Eve joined him.

LordReed:
Unlike your beliefs there is no eternal consequence to your persistence in continuing in your beliefs for the atheist so he has no obligation to save you except may be to save you from destroying others with your beliefs. You on the other hand believe wholeheartedly that we shall end up in hell, a place of torment for eternity but you sit in your house have your 3 square meals, watch TV, browse the Internet become bored and go to bed, sparing no thought for those you claim are going to suffer. Shouldn't you be spending every minute of everyday attempting to save people from this hell? Are you not more wicked according to your own criteria? If you truly believed in hell you'd be crying and wailing everyday begging people to be saved but you don't do that because you are very wicked (according to you).

Can an Atheist come and speak The Truth against this well known Satanist?

Shall any one of you, so called atheis do this good thing and Truly go against this Liar to correct him that he Lies?

Hismasterpiece:
Dear atheists, you say there is no God. That is literally what atheist means: 'A Theos' which is the original greek word which means 'No God'.

You claim to be enlightened and more reasonable and logical and in your right mind unlike us religious people (not really religious people in general, more like Christians because that is the religion you people speak against the most in this section).

But i believe you guys are wicked. My reason being this. You see yourselves as being free and we religious as being enslaved. You see yourselves as being in your right mind and we religious as being out of our minds.

But in your wickedness you have left us all to our slavery and our insanity. Rather than reaching out to us in love and reasoning with us thoughtfully in order to bring us out of our deception and slavery you bash us, insult us, shame us, laugh at us in our wretched condition.

I don't believe you atheists really believe the things you claim to believe. If you really did, it would show. There is no aggressive effort being made by atheists to get the word out and deliver us poor theists out of our bondage. But the Christians who believe what they claim are aggressively spreading the word. Various radio stations and programs, various books and video and audio resources being used to spread the message but the same can't be said about atheists. How many atheist radio stations are there spreading the word about atheism and liberating people? How many Billy Grahams are there in atheism? How many Martin Luthers (both of them)? How many Oyedepos? How many apostle Pauls? How many mother Theresas? How many Andrew Wommacks? How many John Wesleys? How many D L Moodys? How many Kenneth Hagins?

If someone sees his neighbors house on fire and rather than rush and help them put out the fire and evacuate people from the house just walks on by and heads home without showing any concern at all, is that person a good person? If instead of helping them he begins to criticize them publicly and starts accusing them of being careless and stupid and idiotic and uneducated would that be fair? or kind? or good?

That is exactly what you atheists do. You people are selfish and want to enjoy your freedom alone while us religious folk suffer in chains. You show us no love or compassion. Rather than correct us lovingly and put us in the right path you shame us and try to make us look stupid for believing in what we believe in.

I don't believe this is fair treatment. The Christian believes the non-christian is going to hell, and in love he tells him and puts him in the right path. The atheist believes the theist is enslaved in his mind and out of his mind and rather than liberate him he attacks him. That is wickedness, pure wickedness.

Instead of making posts that logically and systematically explain atheism and why it is the right worldview, while logically refuting the claims of all religions step by step, you guys make posts mocking people who you claim to be in bondage rather than helping them lovingly.

You people are wicked.

Abraham Lincoln saw slaves and believed they shouldn't be slaves. And what did he do? shame them? mock them? no, he freed them. I believe that if you people really believe what you claim you should do the same.

Good evening.

CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! SPLENDID.

A very beautiful and fair presentation capturing The Truths we have all seen and experienced here.

Beautiful! I do Say!

MrBrownJay1:
bro, i know we have a lot of discussions on NL, and we dont see eye to eye on many issues, but at least we should STICK TO THE ISSUE AT HAND.

now, the question the OP asked IS: what will you do as a judge in the above context of a woman who was jailed for murder only for husband to come back later and she therefore shoots him dead?!

thats the only question you should answer, instead of focussing on my posts all over NL and getting a hardon everytime you see a post of mine, trying to prove me wrong.

I apologize! I interpreted it in another way.

Ototuz:
Talk is cheap. Bring the evidence for your talk

Switch to your other multiple personality Workch and Obtain the evidence if you like.

MrBrownJay1:
you are so consumed by the rubbish you are writing that you fail to focus on the issue at hand... now reread the question of this thread and stop writing rubbish online....

what will you do AS A JUDGE?! now go drink some water, relax for a sec and focus on the red bold part

See vex!

By your interpretation, you mean any person just taken up from the streets and not what The Law Judge must do. Okay! No vex again. Ajuwaya!

SSIPON:
Tell me you don't understand the context of the post without telling me you don't understand the context of the post.

Lies love to hide in the darkness of Contexts and Contextes!

The Light of Truth has to be shone on the matter!

MrBrownJay1:
abeg stop writing rubbish online.... to overturn or set aside a judgment, you must file a motion with the court asking the judge to set aside or void the earlier judgment.... and if your motion is granted, the case starts back from zero and the prosecution will bring evidence at the new trial that actually proves without a shadow of doubt

"trial that actually proves without a shadow of doubt." This is why Life is different from the movies and novels and you do not Learn the True Position of Law from them.

LAWYERS NEVER SAY A "trial is conducted without a shadow of doubt."

It's the Movies and Novels who do.

Thus, there is
1) A judgement to set aside Conviction and Sentencing and To Order Retrial.

2) A judgement to Set Aside Conviction and Sentencing and To Lay Down Acquittal and Discharge. (Upturned Judgement)

3) A judgement to Uphold Conviction and Affirm Sentencing. (Judgment of Confirmation)

There is nothing to be angry about since it is impossible for you to know more Law than a Lawyer!

SSIPON:
Athiest: someone who believes in one less God than you - Ricky Gervais

O, how the people do not know!

Theist comes from Theo which means God in Latin.

A-Theist is from Anti-Theo which means Anti-God.

It does not mean "I get many gods pass you"!

Ototuz:
Thomas is the only one who asked for evidence of Jesus's resurrection.. .

And he could not move not speak when Evidence came, as I have severally done to you Otutuz alias Workch!

XXXXTENTACION:
Just believe and don't ask questions...

It is those Who Do Not Know who are adverse to questioning.

Experts love teaching and therefore love questions.

MsFaith:
When you want people to become a zombie to something, tell them not to ask questions.

This is really what Nigerian religions are all about. Don’t ask questions, just believe it.

It is Liars who teach these. God has already answered every reasonable question

MrBrownJay1:
BWAAAAAAAH! you really have no idea what you are talking about. how can you overturn a conviction of murder when the prosecution will ALSO BRING NEW EVIDENCE to the court to prove that this woman is indeed guilty of murdering that man?!?!?!?!?!?

Too much Television and Novels: in real cases, Prosecution can not bring any new evidence for murder, Only the Convicts Lawyers can!

That's how it runs. The Prosecution's work ends in Conviction and he can no longer add to his case but the Court and the Convicts Lawyer can continue their work to ensure that the Right Judgement was reached.

Read real law cases and Judgements of real courts, not the heat and entertainment emotions created in movies and novels.

PRE4:
You are embarassing yourself
I said is there God?

NOW YOU HAVE CHANGED AGAIN AFTER MY CORRECTION!

Did you not just CHANGE POST IN YOUR LAST RESPONSE TO ME SAYING
"

PRE4:
There are thousands of gods that exist but even philosophers believe in a particular supreme being.
Could this being be GOD?
thats my question
DTruthSpeaker,NaijaSatanist,Orunto and Petra1
Say something reasonable.
Kobojunkie always goes opposite direction whenever he is called

?

PRE4:
Fine I believe there is thousands of gods but the one we are majoring on is the popular God who is the Almighty God I believe in.

If you believe that there are thousands of gods, then your question was unnecessary and you should not have asked it.

PRE4:
Does he exist?
Am not an atheist,but there are times he becomes missing in some situations he should be present

By your expression "God who is the Almighty God I believe in," you may be referring t He, Whom the Bible calls God!

Now I Answer

The Bible also told He Said "it is Finished"

The Bible also Said as "As a master who hath gone on to a very far country"

And it also said "I know my sheep, and my sheep know me"

And it Said "The Lord Is Far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous.

So do you Truly Fall Under these situations and understand the Message He left for His Loyal Followers?

His Loyal followers do not suffer your problem.

We understand what is going on and we are well provided for!

NaijaSatanlst:
What philosophers believe doesn't matter.

Your question is a philosophical one therefore you can not exclude philosophical answers.

And my answer has not attained the level of philosophical believes.

So it is either you can point the flaws in them or you stay silent!

NaijaSatanlst:
We should work with evidence, what is the evidence for any god/gods.

As I always told you Workch, THE BLIND DO NOT SEE EVIDENCE!

SO YOU CAN NOT WORK WITH EVIDENCE AND UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU, I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO BRAILE SO STAND ASIDE!

TenQ:
In other words, seeing is believing!

The correct expression in this type of cases is "Proper Proof, Dispells All Reasonable Doubt"

TenQ:
"since no one was present when the universe was created, we cannot know that the universe was made by God".

Their weakness is in the Highlight! It is us who call God!

But we do not know His True Name!

TenQ:
If I keep meat in a freezer at -50 degrees centigrade, will the meat spoil in one year?
Logic says NO!
Your disposition says you can't know until we put the meat in the freezer!
Which position is correct?

You understood me at the beginning but you are grasping now at trying to understand me and jumbling up scenarios which are now off track.

TenQ:
1. The bible says:
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth!

Therefore, the universe has a beginning with its creation by God.

Here, you have made the mistake of Equating the Universe to be ONLY THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH.

Which would now give you the problem of identifying heaven as different from Earth eg is the clouds heaven or the background where we see the stars at night, heaven?

Surely you would answer reasonable questions until you give up from answering.

TenQ:
2. Scientific extrapolation says, the universe is expanding and has an origin at about 13.8billion years ago.

As I said you have to have taken hold of the whole to know that it is expanding exactly as we see the expansion of a balloon because we have the whole of it.

TenQ:
Therefore, the universe has a beginning a beginning.

Now you are mixing up existence/presence with beginning!

It is like saying that the Atlantic Ocean starts from Eleko Beach, so which one is in Badagry, or Long Island New York since all of them look alike as a beginning?

Why and How is the one in V/I more beginning than the one in Badagry and Long Island?

No one can reasonably answer these little questions.

That is how the universe is to us. We See it but no one can reasonably determine its beginning and it's end.

PRE4:
There are thousands of gods that exist but even philosophers believe in a particular supreme being.
Could this being be GOD?
thats my question...

SEE CHANGE OF POST!

DO YOU PEOPLE NOT KNOW HOW TO STICK TO ISSUES?

Did you not clearly ask at the beginning
"Topic:Does God Really Exist?[/b]With Enough Facts"

NOW, YOU HAVE CHANGED POST TO SAY "Could this being be GOD?"

Meanwhile, I have answered the question of the thread [b]And NO ONE CAN REASONABLY AND VALIDLY REBUT!

NaijaSatanlst:
Don't you understand how debates work?
After all PRE4 is not online

You obviously don't know how it works!

Anyway I told you up there and in proof of you did not know, you asked a question I have already answered!

So that aside, move out of the way so that you do not hold traffic

NaijaSatanlst:
Good then you know your place

I don run comot from your buus. so I no get place for dia again!

NaijaSatanlst:
It is an invitation to a Debate. The title says, can we hold a debate please.

Yes! And the issue of the debate has been clearly laid down. So you are for or against!

That's how debates work!

Eh I don enter one chance bus. I think say na PRE4 thread be dis, anyway I go jump conmot, sharp, sharp!

NaijaSatanlst:
Comedian don ads himself to the show. You know your role in the debate is to make everyone laugh with your madness. I am so proud of you sir

To make people laugh is Good!
And I am in the business of Doing Good!

NaijaSatanlst:
So why did.you say I am deviating?

Because you used your right to comment WRONGLY!

You are supposed to either Give your proof of God or Deprove, the Proof of God given!

That is today's game called "debate"!

NaijaSatanlst:
Oh and can we add Dtruthspeaker to the debate. Just for comic relief? That guy na comedian

You do not need to add me! I have added me!

NaijaSatanlst:
Jesusjnr,Satanist,Kobojunkie and Righteousness2,can you guys please gather in this thread for a debate?

Topic:Does God Really Exist?With Enough Facts

Oga, your name isn't here.

True!
But I have a right to comment on any and every thread that pops up here!

NaijaSatanlst:
I am asking you a question. Which God are you referring to here and you are saying I am deviating? You weren't even invited to the debate so?? Wtf

I have answered the question, YOU ARE PLAYING IN AGEGE STADIUM WHEREAS THE REAL MATCH IS IN EMIRATES STADIUM.

NaijaSatanlst:
There ar thousands of god's out there. So just to be clear, why God are we talking about? What is the evidence for the existence of demons?

Out of Thread!

hopefulLandlord:
I'm not insinuating anything, I'm claiming knowledge that the Christian god doesn't exist

Not different from your mannequin saying you do not exist!

So no point here!

NaijaSatanlst:
Lmao, so which God are you referring to here

DEVIATION FROM POST!

PRE4:
Jesusjnr,Satanist,Kobojunkie and Righteousness2,can you guys please gather in this thread for a debate?

Topic:Does God Really Exist?With Enough Facts

Please support me,those who will quote me

THIS IS THE PROOF!

We have seen that In this world, Nothing Created Itself! Absolutely Nothing.

Chair, car tree, man, animal! Nothing created itself.

Phones, mannequins, robots, House were all created by A Separate and Distinct Entity.

And we have seen that A House can not build itself.

And the builder of A House is Always outside the House.

So Whoever Built this House we call "earth" must definitely be Outside the earth.

And it is He Whom we call God!