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But they are more than two options available... You cancel the others out to give you a false dichotomy....

Surely you know what the word "Available" means.

It is simply present or it is not.

And if it is not present as in this case then it can not form "Availability"

Available does not cover that which was not present at the material time of the issue and you know this, so stop trying to head into unreasonability.

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do you know the church of satan is a legally recognised institution

Yes! Exactly as a group of Armed Robbers who have not yet been caught in their crimes can and do own Lawful Companies.

The word is "Caught Committing a Crime"

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Even though no law is broken do you realise that such a system leads to inequality... This should be quite obvious but you do realise that if everybody keeps giving to Wilt Chamberlain then wilt becomes wealthier than everybody ... Is this right to you

Inequality: This is where you see that This world is A GIVE and TAKE world AND EVERYONE GETS THEIR DUE!

And therefore, it is equal.

You WILL FULLY GAVE your $1 and YOU WILL FULLY TOOK the body and soul of Wilt Chamberlain via his basketball performance.

On the other hand Wilt Chamberlain WILL FULLY GAVE his body and soul through his basketball performance and he he WILL FULLY TOOK your $1

This is definitely equal and certainly right.

No one is complaining and no one complains, so there is no issue here.

XXXXTENTACION:
you clearly stated that armed robbers don't openly declare themselves and i gave you an example to prove you wrong.... I still don't get the gibbrish you typed up there...
so you know the church of satan is a legally recognised entity and operates within the full conduits of the law....

Do you not see that there is A Difference between A Notice of Attack and The Place of the Gathering of Certain People?

An Invasion or Notice to Invade a community like kidnapping herdsmen (unlawful) is not A Gathering of People even if armed robbers (eg Wedding Ceremony of armed robbers)

Weddings are lawful but Armed Robbers are not.

XXXXTENTACION:
What if he gets help from inside the house .

or somebody brings food to him at home
don't we now have a false dichotomy...

That's why I said "ONLY OPTIONS AVAILABLE."

If there was inside help or help brought in they would have formed "available options".

But there was none, so no road!

XXXXTENTACION:
Ok what of armed robbers like the one million boys that openly declared themselves and gave out letters to Lagos residents informing them that they are coming to steal....

That was clearly A Declaration and Notice of War Against A law abiding people which is not the case of "WE ARE IN OUR LAW FULL GATHERING OF PEOPLE, WHO ARE UN THE BUSINESS OF STEALING BY HARM AND FORCE IN A SPECIFIED LOCATION"!

XXXXTENTACION:
Even in the house they are still options he could beg his neighbours for food or somebody can decide to help him with food which still brings us down to your false dichotomy....

His neighbour is still OUTSIDE.

Going outside is not "IN THE HOUSE"!

XXXXTENTACION:
Ok lets bring the ball back to it's original position...

Based on your header then, my answer which says "A Congregation of Armed Robbers would not openly declare a statement which says STEALING BY HARM AND FORCE, IS OUR BUSINESS" will still not change.

XXXXTENTACION:
Check the headline the thread is specifically on the church of satan...

Yes your header says that but the direction of it is clearly expressed in your opening statement saying "Misconception that satanists are people who worship satan" which set this ball rolling.

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The scenerio of the poor man is a false dichotomy you failed to add a third option which is the fact that the poor man still has a choice to go outside and beg for Yams or other foodstuffs and they is even a fourth option which is the poor man can easily steal foodstuffs from people...

That was why I narrowed the issue by saying "IN THE HOUSE".

Going outside is not "IN THE HOUSE"!

The issue is "IN THE HOUSE".

XXXXTENTACION:
..."Imagine that you live in a society with 100 people. Each person pays $1 to see Wilt Chamberlain play basketball. Inequality is increased as Wilt becomes $100 wealthier and everyone becomes $1 less wealthy."
Is this a just state of affairs
OR would you support such a system and why

I do not know what you mean by "just state of affairs" for No one was forced (breach of Law) to lose their $1. They gave it of the freewill, so no harm done.

No harm done then NO COMPLAINT.

SINCE NO COMPLAINT, THEN NO COURT AND BREACH OF LAW.

IF NO BREACH OF LAW AND COURT, THEN NO "JUST IS" TO DELIVER!

ALL IS WELL AND ALL IS GOOD!

XXXXTENTACION:
That is in simple terms you don't need to worship satan to be called a satanist... All you need is just to do evil..

And love doing evil and teaching others to do evil and Applauding those who do evil.

XXXXTENTACION:
The church of satan is about satan but that does not mean that they worship satan like christians worship God ... SAVY!

Now you are changing post to "definition of worship of Satan" whereas you were trying to defend Satanism. "SATANISTS are people who worship satan"

Which is A CHANGE OF POST!

XXXXTENTACION:
I hope you take corrections thesame way you give them out...

I do once it is validly backed up.

XXXXTENTACION:
Adhominim fallacy...
attacking a person's personality and character instead of attacking their points....

it is Ad hominem!

XXXXTENTACION:
ok give me a valid definition on what's a false dichotomy ?

Simply Put: it raising 2 Reasonable Options or Possiblilities Against an Opponent as if those 2 Options are the ONLY OPTIONS AVAILABLE. WHEREAS THERE IS A 3RD OR 4TH OR EVEN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REASONABLY CONNECTED OPTION OR OPTIONS

Example, it is either you eat rice or beans is A False Dichotomy for there is the option of Garri or plantain.

But this same scenario is A True Dichotomy, IN THE HOUSE OF A POOR MAN who has to either eat the available rice or beans, NO GARRI OR PLANTAIN.

That is how it factually operates!

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Another false analogy....
church of football can be about people who have great knowledge on football issues like coaches, sports bookmakers, journalists and pundits but these people don't actually play football...

The word is "on football" exactly as your church must be about " on Satan".

So, you certainly get that you Lie when you say church of Satan is not about Satan meanwhile you recognised that church of football is about football.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Do you know that certain christian denominations like J.Witness, mormons and catholics are sometimes tagged as satanists Thoes that mean that they are worshiping satan NO....
It's just their ideologies and doctrines that make people tag satanists...

Don't forget pastors and churches.

The key of Satanism is Will Full and Deliberate Doing of A Bad/Wicked/Evil thing KNOWING THAT IT IS NOT GOOD AND LOVING TO DO THEM AND TEACHING OTHERS TO JOIN YOU INTO DOING THEM!

And here is where I found one Law I have never heard about in my almost 50 years of living until 3 or 4 weeks back.

"THOU SHALT NOT FOLLOW THE MULTITUDE TO DO EVIL" Exodus 23:2.

MaxInDHouse:
Oh i'm sorry, my interest is on the topic that mentioned the word "CHRISTIAN" so if you don't care about where people may group you then the case is closed!
May you have PEACE!

By the Bible, There is No Christ Without God, John 14:23. So my attachment to God of Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob ets is Attachment to Christ.

SO I AM IN MY PERFECT PLACE!

There was No case to open in the first place!

jesusjnr2020:
...To say members of the church of Satan are not satanists or worshippers of Satan, is like saying members of the church of Christ are not Christians or worshippers of Christ which would be completely ridiculous...

Or church of football is not about football!

XXXXTENTACION:
Dtruthspeaker

Can we do a simple thought experiment...

I have many interpretations of what you may mean by thought experiment but I am hopeful that when you present the experiment, I would know how to respond to it, so fire on!

MaxInDHouse:
None of them is a CHRISTIAN!...

I do not care about what people MAY choose to describe me and them.

I am okay with ASSOCIATING WITH GOD AND WALKING WITH HIM!

AND IT WAS STILL HIM WHO CAME TO EARTH AS THE MAN WHOM WE CALL JESUS, THE CHRIST.

SO I AM WELL IN ORDER!

XXXXTENTACION:
do you know what's a false dichotomy

If you knew Truly knew what False Dichotomy is then you would know that True Dichotomy, it's opposite, is Lawful, Acceptable and Allowable.

I Wrote the Textbook on Logic!

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All evil things are not crimes...
Homosexuality is legalised in America.
Prostitution is legalised in Netherlands.
Abortion is legalised in some states in the U.S
These are just few examples...
The world does not revolve around you and your religion alone...
learn to live and tolerate people even though they don't agree with your beliefs....

I once counseled you AND YOU COULD NOT OBJECT that THE TRUTH IS IN THE PAST.

All crimes were based on WHOM HAS BEEN WOUNDED OR HARMED BY IT. That is The History of Crimes/Offences and where The Law of Crimes/Offences come from.

Unatural Conducts offends us which is why we would have been angry with men eating from dustbins, being dirty, wounding himself and behaving like wild animals but they have a Natural Defence, The Defence of Reasonably Confirmed Insanity.

Just like the madman, homosexuality and Prostitution offends all of us and
there is No Natural Defence Given to its Doers.

So the mere fact that men have deceived you all into thinking that they are the makers of Law whereas this is A Lie. No man brought down Law, We All came to meet The Law here, Waiting for us to come.

Thus, these Liars and Deceivers, Sons iof Satan have used the power received from their deception of you to start "making laws" which as you have seen now has developed into deceiving people that they have removed former Laws Forbidden and Prohibiting offensive conducts like prostitution and homosexuality and telling you people that you can now do them.

There isnt any lawful argument you can make in support of this abominations, but you have always done these and more IN THE DARK!

Obviously you are an homosexual, so how is it possible that you would want to Love God?

So why would you not support any and all Anti-God agitations, covered in REASONABLY sounding names as Atheist/

As I always say, ALL OF YOU WHO CALL YOURSELVES ATHEISTS ARE SIMPLY HATERS OF GOD AND HIS PERFECT LAWS THAT PROMISES JUDGEMENTS AGAINST PEOPLE WHO DO EVIL.

And you people love to do evil and [b]desire to execute them [/b]except That God's Laws (Natural Law) Wars Against you.

THIS IS THE ONLY TRUE REASON YOU PEOPLE HATE GOD AND ARE AGAINST HIM.

YOU HAVE NO OTHER ONE!

KiNg0G:
between me and you, whose post look like a mad man?

mine was well detailed, yours look like the direction to yaba by the left side.

Your post is clearly insane!

This is clearly mad speak for you are saying
"A hungry you, should be a god to your equal hungry self or

A killable you should be a god to your kilable self"

Women and children even have good sense to attach themselves to Strong Men and here you are choosing your own fatal weak self for a god AND YOU SAY YOU ARE NOT MAD!

It is madmen who do this and we are able to give them understand because they are mad.

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Us vs them mentality....

It is a stark real eye-ity, that we are at war with evil who seeketh to harm/destroy us at best and at least steal our property and goods

Therefore, it is a War of Evil vs Good, for evil is always always trying to attack us even without cause or provocation.

Therefore, we are alert towards defending ourselves as we wait on The Owner of This House who hath commanded that Good be Done to come and see how evil is destroying everything He Had Made and therefore, He Shall Destroy Evil Completely.

MaxInDHouse:
Without associating with fellow believers you're not a Christian!

Who was Enoch's, Noah, Abraham's, Isaac's and Jacob's Associates?

None!

God simply Commanded WALK WITH ME (GOD) Genesis 5:2, Genesis 6:9, Mathew 16:24 ["Take up your cross AND FOLLOW ME (Christ)]

AND NOT WITH MAN OR MEN OR WOMEN OR WOMAN OR GROUP!

KiNg0G:
...We are our own God....

Imagine what mad foolishness, your weak killable, dieable, unsatisfied and always hungry, fear-fear self for a god!

A god striving with other gods for scarce goods!

Tge creator is dangerous O. Many truly go mad just before they are destroyed as accurately described by natural Nigerians "whom the gods want to destroy they first make mad"

Totilopussylick:
Omo.... you mean am ooo

I used to think God created us.

Exactly like your phone thought it was the factory that created it not knowing that the factory itself was also created.

XXXXTENTACION:
You seem to misunderstand everything...
the thread is about whether satanist truly worship satan as most people would widly believe but rather i am trying to point out that satanism has alot more to do with sceptical atheists who use the satan figure to symbolise their ideologies not that they really worship satan as a God... Infact they don't even believe in the existence of satan...

The bold is what I addressed when I said "But we know who you Truly are, which is people who Hate God and His Perfect Laws that Promises Judgements Against people who do evil.

And you people love to do evil and desire to execute them except That God's Laws (Natural Law) Wars Against you."

So on this "Infact they don't even believe in the existence of satan"- we know that this is a wishful desire.

XXXXTENTACION:
... Armed robbery is an example of crime... While satanism is a religious ideology what then is the connection between this two things.... ??

The bold is what we are already contesting about for Satanists do evil things and all evil things are crimes.

KiNg0G:
I used to be a children pastor when I was still a teenager (9yrs to 11) but all that changed when I understand life...

See Another Deceived One who thought he was near Christ whereas, he was playing in one of Satan's many houses.