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Expanse2020:
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According to bible he had a wife
Do continue about the others I mentioned too

A wife means "one wife" so case closed.

For the others i already pointed out that "All of them all got the favour of God BEFORE they went into polygamy."

Expanse2020:
were scare to share your proof
Abi evidence no de 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Since you already know about these people you mentioned then it means you and I have read the same source. So if you want to say that it is not True that God only started favouring them ONLY AFTER they were into polygamy, then show it 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

But, you can't because it is exactly as i said. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

GravityDefier:
Just go down the thread, you'll see some of my replies.

I saw them all and they were beautiful counters. I also didn't see you coming with that angle Moses angle. It was a "na true oo" moment

GravityDefier:
It is a case of "i have forgiven you but I will still punish you".

That is the same canoe Satan would have fallen/would fall into.

No. It is not.

"i have forgiven you but I will still punish you" means that God has given them the grace of a reduced sentencing and (probably reduced charges of sin) instead of the full package just is, punishment equal to their sin.

Sat still has many full blast charges against him of which every second he racks up more. No way he can ever be forgiven which is why he does not even ask just like Saul, Solomon, Sodom and Gomorrah etc

Expanse2020:
according to bible he had a wife ..

A wife means "one wife" so, you see, to your embarrassment, Job truly had ONLY ONE WIFE! so case closed.

Expanse2020:
Ehen
Show us the proof
Bring the evidence out from the bible

See fallacy of reversal of burden of proof because he cannot reasonably counter.🤣🤣🤣🤣

Since you already know about these people you mentioned then are the one who is to show us that God only started favouring them ONLY AFTER they were into polygamy. But you can't because you now real eyes and remember that in deed, God started walking with these people when they were either single or married Only to one wife.🤣🤣🤣🤣

femi4:
Well, that's why He's Almighty...He doesn't grant all requests

Which the other guy pointed out that the requests were denied based on sins they were being punished for!

Vifx:
The Bible god never forgives

Yet, we saw Him forgive a lot when the thief on the cross asked for forgiveness, he got it or is it when Isreal begged for forgiveness several times in the desert and in the promised land.

GravityDefier:
I don't quite agree with you on this Sir.

The holy book says that it's not all sins that are forgiveable.

And the Bible also showed it.

Ajsmart:
So, God will also forgive Adolph Hitler of Germany and King Lepold of Belgium for the millions of innocent people they murdered, right?

No He won't!

femi4:
Unfortunately, you came late

Better late than never

femi4:
yes

That's what vs 35 explained

Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to

You obviously did not read what happened to Saul and Esau and even when Moses asked The Lord not to punish the Israelites for the golden calf sin.

The servant's sin was even forgiven before he went to commit another one. Can you count how many "another ones" sat has committed?

Josywhyte:
God forgives but He does not forget. That's why He says he'll judge us on the judgement day.

Wrong!

Forgiveness means forgetting but does man stop doing things which he would require forgiveness for? No. And that is where man has a case to answer.

Now you understand why Christ said "go and sin no more" AFTER He has forgiven a person.

femi4:
You too missed the important part of the message

Hint: Read the topic again

We all got the message that is why the thread even flowed in line with that message. However, the other guys observational objection is also in that message and it should be addressed and it can be addressed and properly addressing it will also advance the message

GraciousEnergy:
.Grace cannot be exhausted. However, certain level of sin comes with it's punishment. What you see is what you reap.

This is not true brother. We all saw the grace God gave to Sodom and Gomorrah. He even gave them principle of law of presumption of innocence in saying "let us go down to see if what they say about them is true". And after that, punishment Same thing we saw happened to Isreal, Saul, Esau etc.

When grace expires, wrath follows.

Expanse2020:
So Abraham
Joseph
Jacob
David
Solomon
Even Job
Moses and others were acting outside the God plan?

And God favour them than those one with a wife

Job had only one wife ooo and it is him who is one of the persons God called "Perfect". The others did not score that score. That tells you already.

TenQ:
However, it may not be a SIN if a man has more than one wife based on the reason that a moral SIN in the NEW Testament remains a SIN in the OLD Testament.!

TenQ:
...Some things were Allowed in the past because of the hardness of the hearts of human beings.

Bros, you are wrong here. Polygamy is a sin because it contains adultery.

What you fail to appreciate is that is an old sin like prostitution is to women. That is why Genesis even tells us who was the first to break God's Law of one man,one wife which now even became the tradition of the world which God destroyed. A tradition people keep unwisely boasting in saying "its our custom and tradition/I'm a traditional man".

You fail to see that it is a sin because it is the old pagan idolism that you have been accustomed to.

It is not for nought that Genesis shows us who started the tradition of polygamy and to think that he is even a seed of Cain. Now, you see why Christ lineage came through Seth, the people who called on God!i This clearly shows us that God never created nor ordained polygamy.

Mariangeles:
The question you should ask yourself is, how did they end up?

The main reason that make men want to have more than one woman greed. Add to that, lust. .

And also add that the paganist world we live in also tells, teaches and uses style to force people into committing adultery under the covers of marriage aka polygamy

Expanse2020:
You should check those with more than a wife in the bible with favour God bestowed on them and compare it someone with a wife and what God do with them
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You only rant but bring evidence where God abandon it you won't provide it...

Antiislam
Blackvsiper
Kobojonkies
TenQ

All of them all got the favour of God BEFORE they went into polygamy. So, you see you have no point

Reverseng:
You did not read this writeup to understand. You only read to compare notes. Kindly read again

Now I have reread it and it is clear that you have several issues arising from your disagreement of "turn the other cheek" which has even led you to make even more wrong pronouncements such as the point i am contesting. And it seems you would not take kindly to my opposition.

helinues:
I owe you no further explanation

I know. That is why I laughed.

Reverseng:
You can only battle violence with violence and you're about to understand why and how...

Your basis is wrong!

It is not the only option.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.” — Martin Luther King.

Yes, forgiveness is not always just is however it is just is, in many other circumstances eg When the person being forgiven has himself also forgiven another. That is just is being served

Kobicove:
So are you saying they should be allowed to just go scot-free?

Sure. From the looks, no killing was intended plus, killing is bad business for them. So, charging them is just a waste of tax payers money for even our charge and bail lawyer in Ikorodu police station will get them a quitted

helinues:
I sleep, 420, drink more of Yoghurt and milk and fruit juice. I have even lost taste for alcohol self

When it comes to food, chai, I really enjoying taking time to cook because I always have the expectations of taste on every meal. I might decided to be hungry if what I feel like is not available

Hmmm. Not enough info to come to an opinion.

GravityDefier:
IF he does, will he be forgiven?

No, he won't.

I already said it up here, if you waste God's grace and goodness, its bye bye. No forgiveness

Also, we all see that there are certain sins/crimes we must never commit, even one time or half time if not, it is bye bye. No forgiveness. You can ask Adam female and male, Cain, Ananias and Sapphira, Uzzah etc.

This is the part pastors won't preach because they too are afraid of facing the Truth

helinues:
If you have seen me driving before, you will really enjoy taking a ride with me. Where am I rushing to to hit such speed limit?

Ah! Then, what joyful activity do you then? Surely, you can't be doing everything at the same rate. You know if you do then it means something that is very very bad

femi4:
You missed the most important part of the message

In an attempt to appear smart...you revealed otherwise

In Truth, his view is correct for sat too is a sinner, just that he was the first and God has a thing for the first. So, he has special special judgement and curse.

Hmmmmm2024:
And what happened to the people the now repented sinner killed ? Will they go to hell and the now repented murderer will go to heaven ?

You still do not understand that whether you repent or not all of us are still landing in God's Court for proper Judgement, so dis question no dey exist

helinues:
Poverty no dey kill but over happiness

Anything that can make me vulnerable all in the name of entertainment/enjoyment, I don't do it.

That's why I can never ever learn how to ride motorcycle

But driving a car at 180kph too is the same thing, or do you also not drive?

9jaBloke:
Negligent Homicide or Culpable Manslaughter. All crew members must be arrested and charged for something.

Grammer! So, man is now beyond forgetting and mistaking again ehn?

And punishing them still won't bring back the girl from hel

Real2088:
God abeg ooo

My own prayer na make God only dey remember me for Good.

MrAnele:
The doctrine of forgiveness is the most demonic teaching in the bible.

So, you shouldn't be forgiven? Ok. God has heard it.