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indadi:
If God really exists and he is all powerful why can't he prove that he exists. He can just decide to takeover a television station and show himself just as he did to Moses (Though I strongly believe it's a lie).
If he cannot prove to us that he is real then damn he and religion are scams

When your pencils are arguing would it concern you? Or would you obey your ruler when it says "come let me measure you"?

makavelli80:
wrong!

saying "Wrong", without any explanation is complete proof that you are simply shouting "Yea, I can not rebut, I have nothing to say"!

Son, I watched the development of the so called atheists, how they were always brilliant people worthy of admiration in the 80's but were laughed at and called fools by the world which made them return to their darkness from which they came from.

Until now, that they have finished destroying the acquisition of True Knowledge and education, replacing them with lies, that they have come out to deceive you all.

And because you guys do not know The Truth, you bought their lies, hook, sinker and line.

KnownUnknown:
Dumb animal. You don’t have enough emojis in the post to hide your stupidity. Lol, the “word of god” is as real as the morphogenetic fields you claim to understand.

More insults even when I did not insult you. But I understand, it is always the bye product of great loss and Pain.

Anyway, Fool, on your "morphogenetic fields shiit" you do real-eyes that there is the understanding, "that I understand" that you do have The Right to be Make a Fool of Yourself and to display your insanity as long as "you open a thread" to do so, Fool?

Like I tell thee alway, why doth thou lovest to roll in shiit filled gutters, as a pig?

Doth thou seest how thy love for evil causeth thee to be full of madness?

OtemAtum:
So you are there in those days to know that it wasn't so for ordinary people? wehdone sir.

Even as recent as the 80's if any regular ordinary folk had publicly and openly insulted God, he knew the people would have killed him.

And this is just the 80's, how then do you think the 1960's, 40's, 20 and the 18th Century would have endured it? No freaking way at all.

blueAgent:
You are yet to finish.
You have not answered my question fully.

I have fully answered the question because if I did not, you would have raised up the REMAINING PART of the question, WHICH YOU HAD ASKED, Which I have not yet answered, by now.

But, because I fully did answer it, you did not have any REMAINING question, in your question, "why are we not required to scarifice lambs for sin?" For there is none.

makavelli80:
Have u ever met an atheist that is dull academically. If yes how many?

So called atheist paid attention to academics because they observed that their enemies, the Christians did not pay good attention to knowledge, for they were not expecting to be attacked, so Christians did not appreciate the value of knowledge.

So that's why atheists began to read and do well academically.

KnownUnknown:
Dtruthspeaker is a dumb, ignorant, prideful, incredibly stupid Christian. SOB calls himself a lawyer! The law must be in a sorry state in Nigeria if this is what qualifies as a lawyer.
The above is him displaying his imbecility and dishonesty.

I wrote a bunch of nonsense and he was too stupid to realize that it’s nonsense and too prideful to admit he didn’t understand. Instead, he claimed to understand. He claimed to understand nonsense!

So anyone talking to him, keep in mind the type of demented ignorant character you’re dealing with.

See great pain, so much so that you can not recover

The Word of God cuts down all evil souls!

Myer:
Let me ask again since you seem confused.
Did Jesis oblige Thomas or not even after his unbelief?

Now, you are making it look like you are asking an independent question, whereas, you raised up this question because of my statement on "fair weather friends"

Now in answer, to the question, do you not remember that the Christ Chose the disciples even before they believed on Him?

So Christ chose Thomas first before Thomas believed on Him, so Christ obliging Thomas was already under the earlier cover that He, Christ had chosen Thomas exactly as He obliged the disciples when they told Him that they truly did not understand the meanings of His Parables.

Blakjewelry:
First off atheism doesn't mean hatred for God because if that be the case you yourself can be classified as an atheist been that you hate other religions God too, forget whether it is a capital letter or small letter.

When a person is Pro-Something, then he must be Anti-Something, I understand that real-eyeity.

However, the difference lies in Personal hurts and afflictions.

Thus, as a Christian, my attitude to other religions is one of amusement is so far as their beliefs and practice is not reasonably harmful.

But so called atheist are very unreasonably hate full and spite full of God, especially as most of them were former Christianity Applicants (that's what I call them for they were never Christians though they called themselves so), therefore, I know the different reasons why they became atheists all of which are fueled by the Anger which they had for God, when they thought that they were Christians as they were deceived, whereas, God did not know them.

So, these groups of persons I know very well and they all hate God and they often do confirm it.

Blakjewelry:
And talking of insult, check my post on nairaland I don't get involved in that except few cases were some fools just take pleasure in attacking and insulting without provocation, I don't see why a healthy discuss should lead to insult.

I believe so too, but it is Seen that Truth could is Pain Full to Liars, hence they are unable to bear it even when it is evenly and properly delivered.

Hence the popular statement "Truth is Bitter"!

blueAgent:
If the law should still be in force, then why are we not required to scarifice lambs for sin?

as Lawyer Paul told you, THE PRIEST TO UNDERTAKE THE SACRIFICE TOO MUST BE CLEAN (SANCTIFIED/HOLY), so where is a dirty sinner gonna find a clean priest that is to help him carry out the sin sacrifice?

FOR THE PRIESTS TOO ARE DEFILED AND DIRTY AND UNHOLY!

This is where Christ is better than The Priests for He Can Not Be Unholy in fulfilment of The Law!

Workch:
Are you back from service?

"Service" is Ambiguous as in which service, church or Youth Service.

On church
I don't go to church, not been there in more than 3 years.

On Youth Service
My last kid is 8 years now, so you can guess how long that was.

If you were wondering about my absence, it was because I was watching a movie.

Myer:
You didn't answer the question.

Your question was not "the question" for it was based on the fact that you were seeking clarity on what I meant by my statement on "fair weather friends"

Blakjewelry:
I am more of science guy, I don't crack my head up with idioms, infact I hated them back in school and still do.

It's alright, i respect that. In my time, we did Phy,Chem, Bi with Lit-in-Eng, Govt and Econs up to SS 2.

So I got the best of both worlds

Blakjewelry:
And atheism doesn't mean hatred for God why would I hate what I don't believe in. For your information, I didn't just wake up and said o there is no God, my own case study what people believes, match it history of man and see how far that godhood stands if it same with the old shit been twisted in new light, then I am not buying. My search knowledge had lead me far and I am not backing down. Most of you guys who calls yourselves modern Christian's can't even argue with fact because you don't know the full history of your religion rather you go into attack mode instead an intimidation tactics or rather sometimes to show how spirit filled you think you are, same Thing most pastors feel when they are on the pulpit but not just empty self elevation.

First many claim Christians including those who are called pastors but are not; they are very far from Christ and God does not know them which is why they attack rather than supply a reasonably counter or opposition.

That does not happen with me, it is rather that those so called atheist who have had the unfortunate pain of running against me hate me and attack me because they find that they could not validly and Truly and Reasonably get past me, in any opposition.

So right now you do sound even and reasonable, but when the heat is on, and you guys find that you do not have any valid opposition, then the Hatred for God comes out and you guys start the insults.

So, no, all atheists hate God, that's why they are atheists meaning "Anti-God"!

Myer:
Did Jesus still oblige Thomas or not?
If Jesus could still oblige him regardless of his unbelief, then nothing stops performing miracles for unbelievers to believe.

First Lectures in John starts with "Believe". All the gospels commence with teachings and ended with Teachings.

Miracles were in the middle.

Myer:
Truly it is probably more blessed to believe without the miracles but God definitely made provision of miracles for those who do not believe.

Every True Christ Follower knows that Belief In God is greater than Miracles for Belief brings Every Good Thing including miracles however like the man in John 5:14, you can experience a miracle yet, it shall not be well with you, thereafter.

jaxxy:
U ridiculed sm1’s education and Sm1 else Ridiculed urs and u Are complaining and calling it envy?

The advice u gave to workch u should have given to urself 1st.

I did not ridicule his education, I merely expressed my shock.

Workch and I have battled several times with him not being able to validly oppose me so I know why he said what he came to say.

blueAgent:
I never said man created law, what I mean is that you should stop explaining God's law using human limited knowledge or scope.

I never said you said, "man created law", I clearly said "Where do you think Law comes from?"

Now that you admit that The Law comes from God and not man, therefore I can definitely talk about those Laws.

Which I have raised up for you to examine yourself to which you can now see that you do not have any thing valid to say in opposition of those clear Facts.

blueAgent:
There is sufficient evidence showing that God annuled the laws of Moses, but the 10commandments would exist for all eternity.

Now you can see, you Truly have nothing valid to say so like Jws and atheists, you see you are clearly conered therefore, you are only expressing your wish and desire to be rid of God's Laws.

See another example, God Cursed women in Genesis 3, till tomorrow, women have issues with conception and are always going to be lesser than men as God had Law'd.

"In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread" all of these Laws are still running till tomorrow, men sweat to eat.

Genesis 9, God Law'd that we could eat both herbs and flesh.

None of these Laws were revoked and till tomorrow they remain in force.

Unless and Until The Law Giver Directly and Expressly Revokes His Law, The Law will continue to be in Force!

Myer:
Now I'm surprised that you claim I'm twisting your words when you yourself said what you said.

According to you, those who seek after Miracles before they can believe are simply fair weather friends right?

Nope! I did not say that! That word "before they can believe" is the error.

For "fair weather friends" are not persons who have regard for their friend, so they never believe in their Friend, unless and until the time they want something.

Which is why Thomas got the comment "it is because you have seen that you believe" whilst we got the Blessings of "Blessed are those who have not seen, yet believe"

Khayil:
How do you say that 98% of the world are atheists?

The Law is "if you love me keep my commandments"

Do people keep God's Commandments? No

Do people truly want to keep it? No, they are even happy to deceive themselves by saying Christ abolished the Commandments whereas Christ expressly and directly said "Keep my Commandments".

So look around and see if you shall find any who truly loves God.

Khayil:
They should literally be littered everywhere... Just as Christians are...

Many are not Christians, for they do not follow Christ at all, so how can they be Christians?

Khayil:
Atheists don't hate God, how can they hate what they don't believe exists?

Lies! No one can speak ill or be very aggressive and hate full about a person who does not exist.

All self called atheists have a personal grievance and vendetta against God WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN and Truth Rules.

So, no, the True name of atheism is Anti-God and not "I don't know if there is God"

Khayil:
If you were educated, you would have dumped that book of garbage in the refuse dump where it belongs. In this age of easier access to information, you are saying education has gone through the floor? Damn...

See, proof of hatred, anger and vendetta when Truth Rules?

It is always impossible to hate a thing that does not exist. exactly as you said "Atheists don't hate Godhow can they hate what they don't believe exists?"

Yet, from the beginning of your post you insulted me, at the end your hatred and anger for the Bible pours out.

Hatred, Insults and Love always follows things that exist and not on things that do not exist, as you said!

OtemAtum:
Right from day one of your religion on earth, there had been scoffers who laugh about it.

Satan's children like you were always there to insult The Lord, True but it was never so for ordinary regular people to do so until the time of The Lord was fulfilled.

And The Word of God is being fulfilled.

xproducer:
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It appears that you are either not reading the Holy Bible, or not understanding... just uttering what you think you know, which doesn't help you or anyone.

"The Lord is longsuffering and abundant in mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression; but He by no means clears the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation." - Numbers 14:18

Also consider Deuteronomy 5:8-9 (apparently generational consequences for idolatry previously committed)!

Ultimately, GOD is the perfect Creator, Judge and Justifier of all.

And in the end you did not say any thing connected to the topic for we are talking about sin and personal responsibility for sinning and you have gone off the wheel.

AS I SAID EARLIER, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE CASE IN THE BIBLE WHERE A PERSON WAS JUDGED AND CONVICTED BY GOD FOR THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY ANOTHER PERSON.

NOT ONE!

WoundedLamb:
Sir, despite all your education, you still don't know how to communicate with people. It wouldn't have taken anything away from you to explain your statement without insulting the guy. Decorum, please.

Respectfully, I did not insult the guy, it is rather because I was shocked and
could not believe what I have heard, that he did not know idioms.

Idioms began to be taught from about Primary 4 and 5 up till jss3 (FIRST AID IN ENGLISH Textbook is still in my library) so how can anyone not know idioms?

If a person does not know idioms clearly there are many many things such a person will not know.

Which is clearly evident in many of the arguments I have had with people here which always showed a serious absence of basic Knowledge taught even in primary schools.

So, I am too shocked to learn how basic education has actually decayed beyond what I have seen.

Which is why you children are deceived by the lying Satanists hiding under what they call atheism.

So no, I insulted no one, I was just soliloquizing my thoughts.

kingxsamz:
Always talking in the language of the gods.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Toyota and Lexus this time.
At least I'm not the only one who sees you don't make any sense most of the time.

Yeah, it is becoming obvious that you guys did not go to school or/and school did not go through you, which is why you guys do not know anything.

Which explains why you guys easily became atheists.

You guys do not know anything.

blueAgent:
Stop confusing God's law and ways with Man's way.

Where do you think Law comes from? Did Adam or your father bring Law with him?

Do you not see that Adam was under Law already and that Law was applied to him when he broke it?

You ought not be nasty even if it is because you do not have any valid counter to make and you are unable bear the real-eyeity of it.

Workch:
how would one object to stupid things from a deluded person?

Because that person does not Truly have any valid reason to object!

So he either stays silent or where he an evil, he must come to say something evil, as the evil that he is must do.

Peppysco:
Na you dey count the days abi?

The same way we dey watch weather!

Myer:
You mean Abraham, Moses and all the Apostles of Jesus were fair weather friends?

Stop saying what I did not say.

My answer about the idiom of friends made in response to Blakjewelry's was very clear, so stop being a Snake and Twisting things out of their places.

Myer:
It was by miracle ls that God convicted these men so why do you attack others who ask for the same?

I do not understand what you are saying here, for it lacks coherence and disjointed. "Miracle, God convicted these men, I attack others"?

This is not coherent!

Myer:
Is it because truly miracles are no longer happening?

I already gave my answer to this above, when I Said "How can there be miracles when these are the Last Days?"

Evolutionlove:
Lol I can't help but burst Into Laughter You are absolutely right. As I am, I'm a small god and a freethinker on my own and [b]In my own World.....[/b]

"In your own world", yes indeed you are god to it.

But after that, you and your world is still inside another world, like the match box in your room and that world, is not yours.

And therefore, you are not a god there.

And thus, you are in another box and prison!

Workch:
Miracles never existed and doesn’t exist today

No one can come and proof that they do

Like when they came out you were happy for them and not that you were very angry that they had miracles but you had none, and therefore like Cain you desired to kill them.

Squeeze you very much, no sensible miracle recipient will ever come out.

Blakjewelry:
Lol atheism is found more among the most educated folks than in religious sector, do you know why? Because your brains are dormat from lack of serious excitation. You post some cryptic shit and think you are smart

98% of the population of the world are atheists, they are just a group of people who have divided themselves between those who have agreed that they Hate God and those who are yet to agree.

But they are one and the same to me, All Haters of God, whether educated or not, rich or poor, old or young.

Idioms and Proverbs have always been cryptic and you obviously were not schooled in them!

Damn, education has gone through the floor!

Workch:
Anytime this one post nonsense, he thinks he’s smart.

Must you advertise your envy? If you do not have a reasonable objection to present, it was better you walked on by.

xproducer:
You are incorrect! The word of GOD contains the truth of the matter!

"For since by man [b]came death,[b] - 1 Corinthians 15:21-22

Look at your highlight, is it not specific in explaining the origin of death and not the origin of Personal Liability (Criminal Responsibility)?

My contention with him is based on the fact that he and now you are overstretching that passage to include Criminal Vicarious Liability which is not True, FOR GOD HAS NEVER JUDGED ANYONE FOR THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY ANOTHER PERSON.

NOT EVEN ONCE!

So, if you are standing on this, then you have fallen for there is No Ground there at all.

xproducer:
You are incorrect! The word of GOD contains the truth of the matter!

"For since by man [b]came death, - 1 Corinthians 15:21-22

Look at your highlight, is it not specific in explaining the [b]origin of death and not the origin of Personal Liability (Criminal Responsibility)?

My contention with him is based on Personal Liability and Criminal Responsibility, the fact of which he and now you are overstretching that passage to include Criminal Vicarious Liability which is not True, FOR GOD HAS NEVER JUDGED ANYONE FOR THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY ANOTHER PERSON.

NOT EVEN ONCE!

So, if you are standing on this, then you have fallen for there is No Ground there at all.