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kingxsamz:


Dem don dey deny their fellow Christians o.
Jesusjnr2020 do Im own, Happy200 don do Im own. The small small scared chickens like you are still scared shitless because you know that your faith in your imaginary friend is useless, So you don't attempt anything.

True Christ Followers know say na Life we want meanwhile na die na im dey.

So we no kiar to prove anything to any Tercel, Cressida or Corrolla, as long as Fuel dey our tank and were are very well maintained, so we know say our motor no fit eva die or pafuka!

So, we dey kampe!

SonofGod888:
Yes Cain is the Son of Lucifer in Hebrew the Name of Eve is Hava which means the Adulteress. Eve was deceive by Lucifer and she Found him Beautiful ...

Not really beautiful but definitely *Older" and "Better" than Adam.

Do you not see that from secondary from wan jiggy-jiggy dia papa mate, uncle, teacher etc?

If you look very well, you will see that God did not Give Judgement to eve as he did to both Satan and Adam. (Just saw that yesterday)

Only "Interim Orders" (order issued by a court during the trial of a case).

God has not given the Final Judgement of her case, which is why you see the Bible does not really recognise women.

naijacutee:
Where do people get these doctrines from? Cain, as the Bible tells us was the biological son of Adam and Eve.
Genesis 4:1
Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, "With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man."

Why believe anything different? If Cain sinned and therefore is the son of Lucifer, theoretically we are all sons of Lucifer because we all sin.

". . . In sin did my mother conceive me" - King David. We were all born into sin, whether we like it or not. That's why Jesus came.

Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ
12Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned— 13for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law. 14Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.(Romans 5)

Ta, gerout! how she for take cover her waka-waka if she no jump ontop Adam?

zebra:
A friend of mine, a born-again christian told me that the Biblical Cain was not truely the son of Adam, that Cain was concieved when Lucifer made love to Eve. He said that Lucifer decieved Eve and first made love to her and when she enjoyed it she decided to extend it to Adam; that was when God got angry with them. He further said that Cain was concieved as a result of the union between Lucifer and Eve while Abel was concieved as a result of the union between Eve and Adam. He said Cain behaves like his father (Lucifer) while Abel took after his own father Adam. Could this be true??

How dem take dey catch woman wey don do the no-do, no be by d pikin?

Your pikin must always resemble you, if e truly be your pikin!

Orange no fit eva born yam!

kingxsamz:
DTRUTHSPEAKER, Truespeak and Jesusjnr2020 (who pulled a similar stunt 2years ago) come and see how your imaginary friend has failed in ending atheism, again.

The Basic Law of Christ following is "You Follow God, God does not follow you"!

But fake Christ followers always reveal that God does not know them neither do they know Him, in so many ways including this one.

So, he is not a Christian as He has seen for Himself.

He is just one of your former selfs who also thought that they were Christians whereas, they were not.

So he has nothing to do with me to think that I have never even seen him before.

So as he take waka come, e don waka go.

The eye is the windscreen from which your soul takes in information on whatever is going on, on earth.

blueAgent:
My purpose of this article is to distinguish the two laws as separate but related laws and to show that what God did away with through the death of Jesus was the law of Moses and not the 10commandments.

Judging from your writeup or insights on law I presume you are a lawyer?

Yes, I am! I think I did tell you before in your other thread of the righteousness of The Law where I also showed you the connection that Christ, is Also The Law.

That's what lawyers have seen and made many of them stop practicing Law or bend their practice of law, for they saw that they were doing their rubbishes right in front of God's Eyes.

Thus, based on the highlight, I respectfully say you are making an uninformed error because by the Eyes and Power of The Law, they are One.

If you had stuck to the differences you have observed alone it would have been perfect.

But because you supplied your interpretation of it, you set yourself at variance with me and other lawyers here, for your interpretation fell into errors because of you do not know the other laws which you trespassed and shall trespass in giving your interpretation.

The 10 Commandments is a Short Summary and Direction of the All Encompassing Body of Laws given to Moses.

Therefore, from Leviticus 20 till Deuteronomy when Moses made an end of writing out the Instructions, (Commandments), all these form the Single Document which we would have called "The Constitution of The Peoples of Israel and the earth (The Law of Nations)" as we call that unlawful, illegal and no power man made and issued law "the Nigerian constitution, U.S Constitution etc".

Therefore, under your limited knowledge of Law, you erroneously say that God "did away" his Law, which in the Eye of Law, that Never ever Happened.

For the practice of Law comes from God Too and Every Move He made, we lawyers, know The Law He was applying and why He Did so.

Which is why, there are several examples of when He gave a Law and when He Repealed that Law, plus when He Amended/Altered a Law

Examples of Laws Issued and Repealed and Amended
1) Genesis 1:26,28 and 29 (Law Issued)
Amended and Repealed in Genesis 9:1 (Dominion in Genesis 1:26 and 28 was repealed and replaced (amended) with "the fear of you and the dread of you"

2) Genesis 1:29 was amended to include the eating of flesh in Genesis 9:3 where men then were only able to eat fruits and herbs (vegetables)

3) Genesis 3:17 "Curse of the ground only" (other curses remain in force) was amended in Genesis 8:21.

All these were done in accordance with The Laws of "Repeals and Amendments of Laws" which you would not know.

Therefore, God never repealed The Commandments, neither the Preamble (The Preamble having 10 Paragraphs) nor the Encompassing Body of Laws, For God is A God of Law and He Shall Definitely Apply The Law if and when He wanted to Repeal it, which He did not take any step to repeal it.

So you err to say that a part, the Body of The Law is Repealed, Whereas, the Body of Law is an Insevarable Part of The Whole.

This is the whole Truth!

bright007:
Slave to man.

When a man takes another man as slave

A slave to man is already a breach of God's Law, therefore, in a Proper Court, the Slaver is already in trouble before The Law.

So, yes a slave who loves God would know to cry to Him for Justice and Freedom.

And in the Courts of God, he knows will get his due salaries for work done, overtime and over work payments, variation of the contract of service to a reasonable and fair agreement and just compensation from the evils obtained as a result of the enslavement.

While on the other hand, the Slaver has to justified why he committed the act of Slavery, for further punishment to be imposed by The Court.

GdNews32:
We prayed for grace to speak to you, but it appears that many are not willing to repent.
I will be in a haste now, and imagine what will happen if we stop begging

It is Written "The world will not hear you"

blueAgent:
...These assumptions are wrong, the laws are quite different and have different functions, purposes and jurisdiction.

I Love Laws, so when a Topic on Law comes up, you can be sure that I will be there (if ...)

I love your analysis and it is beautifully put together, however forgive me, I love things being accurate, thus, I intend putting in some amendments.

Firstly, you did not avert your mind to The "Source of Law" and pay the due respect to it.

Which is where neither Laws do not have "different functions, purposes and jurisdiction."

For the 10 Commandments are simply, "A Brief and Precise Summary of The Whole Body of Laws Given THROUGH Moses".

What we call "Preamble" in Law.

And a Preamble is no different from the main body of the law, it is part of the law.

And it is the preamble which states the purpose, direction and the intentions of the Law Maker.

Thus, the 10 Commandments is a 10 Paragraph Preamble to the main body of laws still given to Moses, which would have contained Parts, Sections and Sub-sections as we would have done it today. (Mmh that's an idea, may be I'll take some time out to draw up how it would look like in today's law drafting style).

Secondly,
"How they were recorded.
a)The 10commandments were written by God himself...

b)While the laws of Moses WERE WRITTEN by Moses (and not created or formulated by Moses) ."

Here, Based on Source of Law, both emanated from God, The Same Law Giver.

Thus, the Laws are One.

blueAgent:
3,God himself made a distinction between the 2 set of laws.

*** 2Kings 21:8 Neither will I make the feet of Israel move any more out of the land which I gave their fathers; only if they will observe to do according to all that I have commanded them, and according to all the law that my servant Moses commanded them.

In the above example God speaks of 2 laws the one "I commanded " and the one "Moses commanded "(law of Moses)

Correction: it should accurately read "and the One I Commanded Moses to give you". as you rightly observed in Nehemiah 1:7 We have dealt very corruptly against thee, and have not kept the commandments, nor the statutes, nor the judgments, which thou commandedst thy servant Moses.

Moses, does not own The Law therefore it is a misrepresentation to say "law of Moses".

blueAgent:
Note:!
The 10commandments contained no curses or punishment for its offenders.
Deut29:20,21,27, 2Chronicles 34:20.
See Exdous 20:6.

Exodus 20: 5 is the Punishment for the offence of bowing down to other gods in breach of Preamble 1, Section 1 of The Laws of the Territory of Israel and the whole earth, which both and all belongeth to God, Most High!

blueAgent:
After Moses broke the first tablets of stone God re-wrote the 10commandments the second time, note the law of Moses was already in existence and was already been observed .
This proves that God saw his 10commandments different from the laws of Moses.

No sir! Every body of Law has its Preamble and A well Made Law must have its preamble.

Why?

Because The Preamble Leads and the body of Laws follow after it.

That is why God replaced it.

And this is even besides the fact that it was meant to be a Physical Proof and Evidence To World that Indeed God is Up there Watching us (for those who claim to not know that He is Up there watching us) and He indeed once directly and physical communicate with one of us, which evil people will never want people to know, therefore they have covered and hidden it.

blueAgent:
**The laws are aslo different in there contents and functions .

All the things you laid out are also obtainable from the main body of The Law.

2.it convicts us of our sins,

3. It teaches... (for those who want to learn)

4. It prescribes

5. It recommended.

"Its primary purpose was to deal with sin and its consequences hence it was added becos of sin."

The Primary Purpose of God's Law is to attend and address every evil work, which brings about an offence (sin).

blueAgent:
Although the 10commandments reveals or convicts one of his sins, it had no saving power, their was no provision or instruction contained in the 10commandments on how one could be saved or cleanse from sin. Hence the need for the law of Moses.

As I said earlier, what you call 2 Laws, is actually, One Law!

blueAgent:
The laws of Moses were temporary and a shadow of things to come, they pointed to Christ, who by his death and blood, cleansed all humanity of sin.
Unlike the blood of lambs and bulls offered for sin as required by the scarifical laws of Moses,which could never make one perfect(Hebrews10:1)
Christ offered himself once as the scarifical offering for all sins, weather past, present or future , that through his death and resurrection all would come to the perfect knowledge of God...

...What changed was how the punishment or justice was served to offenders and not the offence, neither was the law prohibiting such offence abolished.
Same principle applies to God's 10commandments and the laws of Moses.

Conclusion.
With this points and evidence it should be obvious to any honest person that the 10commandments and the laws of Moses are 2 different laws written by 2 different authors, (ERROR: SAME AUTHOR) kept in different places,had different content and functions ,written on 2 different materials and were to last differently.

The 10commandments is also called The law of God, the testimony,Commandments the Royal law,the law of liberty.

The laws of Moses is also called ,Book of Moses, commandments contained in Ordinances,Law, judgments,law of the LORD, commandments, decree.

Like a carpenter teaching car engines and engine failures is surely teaching errors, so also is it when non-lawyers teach law.

There are many errors here breaking many other laws you do not know, because you do not know all the relevant laws in play and how they intersect with each other thereby leading to misleading outcomes.

Thus, your little absorption of law, does not qualify you to teach Law, for you will mislead your unlearned listeners and cause them to err.

So, your presentation looks right and has good spirits but it is not Fully Right (Right Full) because of fundamental errors, which you must commit because youare not an expert in it, exactly as you would not believe a painter who is giving a lecture on open heart surgery.

Nevertheless, lawyers would have been impressed with your presentation like the doctors would have been by the painters presentation of open heart surgery.

Guys, Shey una know say the question na for una?

Reverse Question 101!

NigeriaLimited:
I have been thinking, why do people have to die. Might sound like a dumb question, but why tho.

As you command your phone and it obeys you so also shall God's Command Be Done!

[quote author=kingxsamz post=105172083][/quote] obinna have you dropped the tankfor Sammu? when Sam has finished crying, you can use it to water the Ugu farm!

[quote author=kingxsamz post=105170337][/quote] Obinna, bring drum to give to Sammy boy here to fill!

[quote author=kingxsamz post=105169401][/quote] O, you don full another one? you still dey cry since yesterday till today? you go die before your time oh!

Irijosa777:
I just read a thread/post by Deddy Freeze.

His post reads;
"When corruption favours Christians they call it grace"

Correction! He meant "When corruption favours those who call themselves Christians but God does not know them) they call it grace"

[quote author=kingxsamz post=105148395][/quote] Eyah, you cry so tay you full bucket? at least, you don get water take baff !

IMAliyu:
You want me to be more specific?

Everything considered as life possess either DNA or RNA (genes).

Do you not see that you have Changed Your Post?

First, you are arguing for evolution in respect of creation of this world saying "Evolution, makes sense if you understand the concept of natural and artificial selection,"

Now you have Moved from Proving why Evolution makes sense based on the queries I have raised up to "life possess either DNA or RNA (genes" which is not in issue.

See, how you are moving from place to place and experiencing serious difficulty to explain what you believe?

That is because it is impossible to use A tyre nut to explainhow a whole vehicle from which it comes from, was created, which is the issue of this thread. (Putting aside all the other sub issues and remote issues)

IMAliyu:
Is that so?
Why haven't you answered my first question of do you consider paternity tests to be reliable?

I did not answer this question because, you are the one with the burden of proving how your evolution created this world.

And when you supply your explanation, (as you did give) then the burden shifts to me to ask any reasonable question which arose from your answer.

Therefore, I enjoy the privilege of asking reasonable questions, while you have the burden of answering them.

At this time, you do not have the right to ask questions for you are the one making a presentation.

IMAliyu:
I believe it's actually a valid one. Because this is the most fundamental component of life.

C'mon Aliyu, you couldn't have said this.
"You believe it's actually a valid one. Because this is the most fundamental component of life".

Like saying "I believe it is valid because Food is a fundamental Component of life"

Does that make sense? Is this how validity is arrived at?

See, you guys are very capable of believing anything you want including believing that it is morning right now in Nigeria if you wanted it so but that does not mean it is True.

And as you yourself can see, you can not validly and Truthfully Support your postulation of evolution.

IMAliyu:
You know, this is something only someone with no idea of the decades of the scientific research in the fields studying the branches of biology would say.

This sounds exactly like a Fallacy that should be called "Begging the Questionnaire" because of inability to support a proposition.

IMAliyu:
Speciation is an established fact.
Genetic mutations are an established fact.
Selection is an established fact.

This is a Change of Post for the issue is proof of evolution of the world and not the proof of the alteration or tampering or modification/fabrications of the the things in the world under names speciation, man's tampering with genes called genetic mutation, selection as carried out by men.

IMAliyu:
So, what is this solid, valid pillar you are talking about? Or is your definition of Truth rather specific to you?

You already gave your pillars to wit, "genetics" and "commonality" and I have challenged them and now you have fled to components of life, speciation etc.

Changing Post is always the Proof of the Absence of Truth.

kingxsamz:
You're trying too hard.
Don't force it.

You are not trying at all, try again next time!

A001:
Lols, yet every year, more religious people in Nigeria experience sadness and depression than irreligious ones.

Visit a nearby general hospital and teaching hospital, especially the emergency section, and see patients (and their relatives) in a state of depression as they battle to save their life.

The majority of these are either Christians or Muslims.

That's when you realize how useless your god, Yahweh, or the fictitious Jesus, is.

Visit prisons and see religious people who experience depression.

As I said earlier "Most people Do Not Love God Nor Serve Him. Including those who call themselves "Christians" but they are no different from you who also call yourselves "I do not think there is God" people.

They all serve themselves or serve coloured paper or other humans or stone or iron etc.

They are no where near God neither does God know them nor is He Near them.

So chill out, you are already doing the religion you like and I did not say anything about you leaving your way.

Neither am I responsible for you feeling bad that you previously thought you were a Lover of God, therefore God should answer your prayers and wishes, whereas He did not know you.

So deal with your own mess

A001:
But then, I understand in your myopic view, the Christians among these people are not true Christians, but you're.

I never judge myself.

A001:
Why must you always think like a toddler?

Now the insult comes!

A001:
About being a slave, I'm not a slave of anything or anyone.

Depression, failures, frustrations, Pain, your fellow evil men and women rule over you and you do their will, therefore, you are a slave.

FreeIgboho:
Dtruthspeaker he us lying to u. See below

.i was very clear when I said
"And most people are not Christians, including those who claim to love God and call themselves "Christians" but they are no different from you who also call yourselves "I do not think there is God" people."

The operative word is "Who Claim".

And this is where The Truth lies in the Bible which said "

"27 My sheep hear my voice, AND I KNOW THEM, AND THEY FOLLOW ME:

28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, NEITHER SHALL ANY MAN PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND.

See that!

It is impossible to pluck those who Truly belong to Christ.

They can never ever fall for they live in the bountiful blessings of God, eg, eating to satisfaction, promotions, prosperity, peace, power, pleasure, protection, harvest, increase etc just to mention a few.

So how can depression, delay, denial, despair, desolation etc come near us?

A001:
There's no sense in this post. You're a slave of a god, yet you don't realize you're in chains mentally.

Mental slavery is even worse than the physical type, since you don't even know you're in chains, unlike in the latter state.

You are a slave to yourself, since you make yourself your own god.

So why would you not suffer depression, disappointmens, despair, hardship and other nonsense sufferings when you can not even give to yourself what you need.

Whilst I am properly catered for by My Master, because I Obey Him.

There is nothing to quarrel about, you have chosen your own Master, I have chosen mine.

A001:
Trash

I understand, People in prison having lengthy years of imprisonment can never bear the sounds of the Freefolk!

It is a depression unto them!

Since the issue was about advantages of being a Lover of God, you had to hear this.

kingxsamz:
I dey laugh una na.
The laugh con dey vex you. Why na?

The same way I follow take laugh you, you no suppose vex!

AntiChristian:
So if a Christian says he wants to kill me then all other Christians are also culprits?

Who made you guys like this?

One Muslim, is definitely an anomaly but when everyday, Muslim kills, Muslim kills, Muslim kills, Muslim threatens to kill... that's a phenomenon a disease and a plague.

Men, I really do not participate in this kind of filth, so please leave me alone, I really do not want to talk about what your people do or don't do.

For what they have done, they have done already and what they did not do, is not yet done.

Workch:
So wave is not matter

Nothing wey person no go see for this nairaland

Since you change views from micro-matter to macro- matter, then every substance is matter, whether wave, water or metals.

As you said "depending on how it’s been observed."

What happens when people do not think as they read.

Workch:
lol

I still have P. N Okeke in my library.

FreeIgboho:
I don't want to call u mumu.
I said everything depends on preponderance of circumstantial evidence. A lot of people believing that thing is part of that evidence - just as that's part of what establishes your existence. Not that it "makes it true". Nothing can be made true. I thought I already drummed that into you

Can't the ground under your feet be verified as True?

Workch:
You just keep talking about quantum physics like you know anything about it

Double slit experiment just shows that matter can exist as either wave or particle form depending on how it’s been observed. It doesn’t mean that you create your own reality in actual sense.

Wave is not matter. Wave may carry matter particles.

And particles are what is called matter.

kingxsamz:
And as you enter see my comment, you for throway face just focus on your heavenly race na, why my comment dey pepper your body?

No be you come dey talk about people wey dey wait for "Horse Stop"? Abi dia waiting bin dey pepper ya soul?

kingxsamz:
Why I go wan enter where dem no get technology?
Where people still dey tie wrapper, where dem dey use stone sit down?....
Why you dey even bother to reply me sef? Shebi na hell I dey go?

Then you for jus come, look, laugh and dey go make people wey dey "Horse Stop" dey do their wait jejely!