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justfriends:
My question still remains. Is it scriptural to marry more than one wife or not I will prefer a yes or no answer. Thanks in advance.

The Law is "He made them male and female" not male and females!

Based on the Law then the answer is No.

LordReed:
I never said your like or dislike was of consequence so my question remains unanswered and I suspect you are playing these word games because you can see what it leads to if you answer plainly.

Okay, since it is settled that my answer here is inconsequential and of no effect, so I can patronisingly make my own fair comment on this parts as per your question.

So your question

"Do you like the things God did not sanction?" Can I alter the question to

"Do i like the things God prohibited?" So that I could answer from this view?

And could you lay down some examples of those things He Prohibited/sanctioned which you truly have in mind?

Truvel:
Are U Asking Me If I Am Doing My Work?

Based on Mathew 24:46 i wish we all will do The Lord's work before He Arrives!

Truvel:
I Know, Dat's Why I Said, It's In God's Position To Judge.

As a brilliant student already foreknows that he can not fail in an exam and as a thief caught in stealing already foreknows that the Prison Awaits him, so also do ye know if thou doest righteously just as Abimelech in Genesis 20:4, Job, David, the disciples, Paul etc.

This is where the Parable of the faithful servant is instructive as it is clearly Written Mathew 24:46

"Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing."

So are you doing your work? And is there any reasonable impendiment preventing you from doing your work before the Master Arrives?

These and more are the pertinent questions which stand before you, which you could rightly and truly answer.

coputa:
It is difficult to achieve that on earth.

It is not! Abraham reached it, Isaac reached it Jacob reached it, Joseph reached it, Job, David, the disciples, Paul etc

Brother, many people like you and i made it and their making it, is our condemnation, which is why it is Written "That we are without excuse" or (defence).

It is exactly as a class of students are condemned already if one or two students passed the exams which is even putting aside other grounds of condemnation.

The Lord Jesus Truly shows us how to make it, pay Very very much Close Attention to Mathew 5, 6 and 7 while begging The Lord that you Truly want to understand His Teachings so that you could obtain Life.

That you understand that you will Die if you do not learn what He has Truly taught, so you are begging Him to let you learn so that you could begin to Live.

Say all the Truth in your heart and hide nothing for He Knows them even before you.

That is how I started this journey more than 20years gone and my tank is still full.

Use your knowledge of Law in reading also it is also light for you truly for "Every Word that Proceeded out of the Mouth of The Lord is A Law!

Ditto: I am indeed a lawyer also in Private Practice, both I and my wife also and we do testify to the Truths contained in the Bible for we are living witnesses to These Truths and I can talk about them All the day long!

LordReed:
There is no ambiguity in my question, you are the one attempting to make things convoluted.

The word sanction in this context means official permission or approval for an action. So it is a straight forward question, do you like the things your god doesn't sanction, yay or nay.

Since you have settled your meaning of the word "sanction" then I can answer.

Like a House is to A Baby, I like everyone, came to meet these Laws here already, so The Lord did not consult me or anyone when He issued these Laws neither should I or any man be consulted when The Lord formulated these Laws!

So my like or dislike is of no consequence!

LordReed:
Do you like the things your god does not sanction?

Thank you. This is a clear and direct question which I can present my own personal opinion without being connected to any other person's opinion or popular opinion.

However, there is a problem with your question, it is too ambiguous, that is your truest intention or intentions for the question is very unclear.

In that are you asking,

1) whether "I Like" the things that God did not sanction? (Here, you are making my personal pleasure or preference which may still be independent from my pleasure, in issue)

2) Whether I like "The Things" that God did not sanction? (here, is it about the things?) or

2) Whether I like the things that "God Did Not Sanction"? (Here, is it about the fact that God Sanctioned or did not sanctioned them as different from whether I or any other man sanctions or does not sanction them?)

For this word "sanction" is both positive and negative, thereby leading to unclarity when I present my answer.

These are the things which makes this question very ambiguous.

annyplenty:
Thank you for your response. I am not saying that you are wrong. I am equally trying to draw out the real meaning of the great tribulation as God would have the church and believers to know so that we will not be in error.

Truth be spoken, majority of believers today, do not know the actual meaning of the great tribulation as God would have them know. And unless we allow scripture to explain itself, we will run into error.

What I want to do is to allow scripture to explain itself and not try to read my own meaning into the scripture.

Let me finish my exposition, using only scripture to explain scripture, then you can make your opinion of my presentation.

I will definitely continue today, if God wills.

It's ok, I love "Statements speaking for themselves"!

LordReed:
It was clearly a sentiment you expressed. You said laws were made by your god though I am yet to see were your god made a rule about traffic lights or seatbelts. So according to you if man makes a rule that your god didn't make, you are under no obligation to obey it, also known as a rule you don't like.

Now you have properly raised a fresh issue in line with your reasoning which I can attempt to address.

So on God issuing laws on traffic lights and seatbelts, surely you know that you are being unreasonable here, for traffic lights and seatbelt laws can only apply to those places where they are in use, called Limited Jurisdiction not Worldwide Laws. Thus, there is No traffic light and seatbelt law in Riverine Communities and on the High Seas but God's Laws Covers All and are therefore still there.

LordReed:
So according to you if man makes a rule that your god didn't make, you are under no obligation to obey...

Yes, I verily did say so and I do say so and I always will say so.

The Lord, Covered It and Them All.

LordReed:
... also known as a rule you don't like.

Objection!

You are the one who testifies about the "Likeness of a rule", I made no comments about "liking" or "not liking" any rule,

LordReed:
Using words like crafty is belligerent and derogatory language. If you want us to go down that route then fine.

If I offended you in saying you were being crafty, I apologize, but you must understand that where a foul/offence is perpetrated on me it is my duty to cry out and raise up an objection timeously.

annyplenty:
Ok let us begin.

Revelation 1:8-9 KJV
Almighty. [9] I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience h of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Let us try and define tribulation with the statement of John above.

If you restrict your understanding of what "Tribulation" truly means ONLY to John's Revelation, then you have done great injustice to The Lord who said it Earlier in Mathew 24 and therefore, you would also not see it in action in other earlier references.

So this clearly shows that your opinion of what "Tribulation" truly means must be different from mine.

My observation throughout the Bible from Genesis to revelation "Tribulation" has only One Great Meaning whenever it is used.

Thus, Tribulation refers to Increased Troubles. If observant you would see that Tribulation and Troubles are Always Linked both in words and in fact. Hence I think that what was called Tribulation in the past can also be called "Troublations or Trouble-lations today".

Which on further observation it is seen and known that all the people in the world fall into one Trouble or the other with some form of regularity and these types are usually bearable and tolerable.

However there is a period of time where there is a Noticeable Increase in the Number, Regularity, Vehemence and Hotness of Troubles, and here the afflicted soul cries out and everyone sees and can see that such a soul is afflicted.

The afflicted even cries out saying "who I don offend? dem curse me? What did I do to deserve this kain wahala?"

This state is what I have identified to be Tribulation.

And I gleaned this both from personal experience and from several passages in the Bible most especially Psalms, Proverbs and Ecclesiastes, which I used to overcome all these experiences and observations.

Eg Psalm 25:17, Psalm 16:4 etc

LordReed:
I asked a question do you have an answer or not, calling me crafty doesn't answer the question

Your question tended to put on me what is not mine, for I never said so nor intended to say so, to wit-

LordReed:
Where did it say that you should disobey earthly rules because you don't like them?

The bolded is not my statement and I do not accept it.

Which is why I answered that I was very clear on what I said, which is recorded here, therefore, if you wish to take me on by what I said, then let it be on the ground of what I said, not on another.

Thus, if you are interested in this line of reasoning, it would be clean and honourable for you to raise it up properly.

LordReed:
Besides do you want us to return our previous aggressive interactions?

Isn't this a clean, reasonable and healthy way to argue? I love clean, reasonable and healthy arguments even if we are on opposing sides, but it is with the understanding that a personal opinion Always Remains a Personal Opinion (P.O)

As to our previous unhealthy and hostile encounters, that was last year, when war and hostility was the business of the day in Nairaland.

However, this year, these are nice days of peace and reasonablility, so it is unreasonable for anyone to go at an argument daggers drawn.

2buffagain:
"He that is without sin, cast the first stone"

You might be there thinking you are holy, but in spirit things, you could be a crimelord right now, in some area, receiving the benefit of Jesus advocating for mercy for you from the father. Be careful when you think you stand.

I laid no claim to Holiness but I do solemnly declare that it is my Aim and Goal to Achieve it!

MaxInDHouse:
You misconstrued Lawyers for Judges!

ALL JUDGES ARE FIRST LAWYERS AND ALL LAWYERS ARE JUDGES!

2buffagain:
I used to think this way, but then I grew in thought.

You ever heard of the courts of heaven?
That place where heavenly beings decide upon the ever-shifting course of lives?
The place where some beings advocate for you, and others accuse you...likely based on what you are guilty for?

Yeah, that's lawyering.

You can say "a defense lawyer having to defend a crime lord in court won't make heaven".
But switch gears.
You are a sinner and violator of universal laws in heavens court right now, but a lawyer/advocate still stands in your defense there for you to not be utterly destroyed, despite the fact that you are a currently unrepentant sinner.

Same thing.

Be not deceived, God can not be mocked nor deceived not bribed, "Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he surely reap"

Examine All the Decided cases in the Bible, All and any Advocacy conducted therein has its Feet in and on A Righteous Law which Swayed the Judgment.

Exactly as said "He who has done equity (Rightness) gets Equity (Rightness)" and

"He who wants Equity, must Do Equity" and

"He who wants Equity, MUST COME WITH CLEAN HANDS" (Not Filthy and Dirty Hands)

"It is a child who has washed his hands that eats with king's"

coputa:
I do not understand this "pure in heart"
Are you saying that a lawyer that twist the truth because of his profession and the desire to survive and still be humane and kind to people around him will make heaven

Your profession can not make you do what you did not desire to do and further, do you not think that the judgement you lay on others shall be laid upon thee?

So as long as no one put a gun to your head to make you Lie by "Twisting The Truth", then you do not have the Defence of Undue Influence and Duress.

It is you who"Twisted The Truth" not your profession, therefore it is you who shall stand on Trial Accused of Lying by "Twisting The Truth" and not your Profession.

You can not even put your profession on Trial for it is only persons who stand for trial.

And even if your profession can be put on Trial, you would be right next to it, for you aided it in accomplishing the offence hence an Accomplice.

And you already know The Law over an Accomplice To Wit - "An Accomplice Commits the same Offence as his Principal"!

MaxInDHouse:
Lawyers are businessmen and businesswomen, their intentions is to make gain and there is no righteous gain when money is involved...

The True Practice of Law is not a Trade, Craft or Business.

It is A Call! A Call to Life and to Bring Life and Health to a dead people who do that which is not good.

It is A Call to repentance, repentance and restitution so that they escape the Delivery of the Signed and Sealed Judgement of Death Sentence!

It is A Call to Deliver Judgement, Judgement for doing that which is right and good and Judgement for doing that which is not right and not good.

It is A Call, a call to Teach that which is Right and Good from that which is not right and good.

It is A Call!!

But many the Teachers of Law do not Teach these things rather they teach Lies and Wickedness and Half-truths/Half-Lies!

LordReed:
Where did it say that you should disobey earthly rules because you don't like them?

C'mon now, you do not need to be crafty.

I was very clear as to what I said and my words are recorded here.

LordReed:
Your bible told you to obey your earthly rulers, even your Jesus did so but here you are turning everything on its head. Anyway its not a surprise its you peoples way, you can use the bible to justify anything.

My Bible said obey your earthly Rulers for they Rule for your Good, To Bring You Goods.

But it verily Also said that when they do not Rule for our general and collective good, they will and must be Thrown Out of their Rule!

annyplenty:
Share, please!

I will and I have previously presented my own view in another thread but could you permit me to present mine after yours?

I would very much like to hear your own view, so please, go first.

LordReed:
Why do you want to discriminate against LGBTQ folk? Why do you want to break quarantine? Is not in your bible that the law is for those who hate or are disobedient?

For LGBTQ, The Law is "Give to each, his due" but however, it is Understandably Reasonable that "No one will reasonably permit or allow a filthily dressed person to enter into their house or office. As soon as he is spotted, he shall be turned away.

That is the Natural Barrier and Resistance already Pre-placed by our Creator and Ruler against the doing of anything that He does not want done.

In fact that is the Fastest Way of Identifying a thing that should not be done.

On Quarantine Laws, the former quarantine laws was sufficient and it did not go against any other Law, but the Remake is Already Unlawful for "A law which unreasonably commands the doing of that which is not good, is No Law" For The Law is Always for the doing of that which is good.

On Disobedience to The Law, your first question should be which Law or Whose Law. Is it The Creator's Law or the law made by your fellow Brother man?

Without having to write a textbook the short answer is All The Creators Laws Are Good, Perfect and All Encompassing, All Embracing and Completely Exhaustive and No One has Any Reasonable Complaint against them, (which Can Not be said about Any man-made law, which is why you all always say, that "the law has loopholes and flawed" ) hence Everyone obeys them and is compelled (bound) to obey them.

Man did not make laws for and over his fellow man neither did he have power or right to do so, (he can only do so for his own creations such as phones, cars, laptops etc) he only needed to find and uncover The Laws which the Creator has Already Pre-Commanded, Pre-Made and Pre-Issued, which is my job and the job of All Lawyers.

And all the good laws that man claimed to have made, contained in your Acts and Laws and Edicts, where Already Pre-Set by God, The Creator of this world and man. So man's repeat of the Laws of God was null and unnecessary.

However, men did a Trick on all the peoples of the world and deceived them, they said and proclaimed that the laws which they had "made" was Complete and Exhaustive and Superior to any other Law in the world, even providing a Difficult Means to Ensure its Alteration is Not Easy, which they called the Constitution, Decree or any other name they so wish to call it!

Then they further secured their deceit in saying that "Anything not contained in the Constitution or their own laws is UNLAWFUL".

This is Not True and therefore this is the weakness of all man made laws in which apart from the fact that his laws have power only over his creations like Toys, cars, phones etc since I am not a creation of man, therefore, No man has power over me (Unless It is The Power of God which means that he is applying and executing God's Laws over me and not his own weak laws)

Therefore, I am Free to Disobey him and his fake laws, where God's Law does not encumber me.

annyplenty:
Do you know why the great tribulation is called the great tribulation?

Yes, I think I do but what do you have?

budaatum:
And yet, buda lives!

Or do you want to argue you are responding to the dead?

many are dead but they know it not, example those who go in unto strange women, who flattereth with her words and eyes (the Assassin sensationally called "Slay mama" ).

She has killed many souls and imprisoned them in the pits of death and hell but they know it not, neither are they able to return again to take up the paths of Life.

Thus, they are an example of those who are "the dead, who have to bury their dead."

Many are dead but they do not yet know it!

budaatum:
[b]Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said

No wonder you float as the dead (ghost) for it is see and known that man is made to Stand on the Ground of the earth and not in the air as a ghost.

Hence it is said "he who stands for nothing, is a ghost and he is dead".

And if he is dead, therefore he has no Life!

And if he has no Life, therefore he can not give Life, for it is The Law "A person can only give that which he has*

Thus, the dead can only give and must give death only!

LordReed:
Can you name any period were Christians were not being killed somewhere on this planet?

What evil laws are you referring to?

Though he said evil laws are targeted at Christians and their so called churches, which is not the whole truth but I do add that it is targeted at all.

I hate seeing them and I do not immediately recall any of them but as it is said "In order to boil a frog, it is put in a pot of cold water and the pot put on the fire".

That is what is happening to the people of the earth.

Eg Promotion and Sanction for any State which does not support homosex, transgender and all those things which used to be abhorred.

Visa refusal for being against these kinds of persons.

The law of Unreasonable Imprisonment for 30days on a mere allegation of offence/crime in opposition to the Natural Law of Presumption of innocence and Freedom, after all the accused can be ordered to appear at the investigative offices to answer any question they need cleared.

One state in the east passed a law that you can be imprisoned at the pleasure of the governor, The Quarantine law has been amended to include punitive conditions rather than do it's job of bringing healing to the sick, this and many other new laws have been created which did not exist before.

annyplenty:
Persecution is coming. Be prepared. Do not deny the Lord, Jesus Christ.

It's been going on since!

oaroloye:
....r.

This is just another proof of how that Evil Prince has changed the "Times and the Laws" as foresaid by Daniel, which is why I now say that "The Truth, which is True, is in the Past".

coputa:
Many of them has acquired the knowledge of God,in fact,we have many lawyers that are pastors,but they cannot put this knowledge (word of God) into practice.If they do, they will be broke.

The way of The Lord is not the way of Money Riches, which is why He Clearly told us that "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God"

Now can a camel go through the eye of a needle?

The way of The Lord is neither Poverty Also which is why David clearly tells us that "the righteous can never suffer lack".

I am a lawyer and I do testify to the Truth of these things.

My fellow lawyers are taught and think that they work for men but they do not know that Law is The Power of God Himself and not the creation of men as they are taught but The Direct Creation of God Himself as the earth was so created by Him.

And therefore they work for and with Him, which is why in all the earth, Lawyers are "Feared" Naturally, Because they are like unto Moses, for They know and can know and are capable of knowing the Mind of God as Moses Did!

All Lawyers ought to know and hear what Jeremiah 2:8 says

Sundaygeorge:
Most of the lawyers know truth.. but at times they will try to swindle some cash from u . Giving u fake hope... you know man must waak

Only the once that stand by the truth will make heaven.

They are craftily taught this wickedness and told that it can not be their fault if the opposing lawyer did not spot the defect.

Whenever I see this I just say within myself that "Now you lawyer, have committed an Offence and Now you stand Accused"!

lilvicky68:
A righteous lawyer can make heaven..

No sir, Righteousness is not enough. The Standard of Righteousness is for simple folks but not for a Lawyer.

His is Super Righteousness! Flawless Rightness, Holiness is his Standard, nothing less .

coputa:
Lawyers,in the course of defending their clients in court tend to twist fact so that the case will be in their favour.

With this attitude,do you think lawyers can make heaven?

Not "heaven", but the kingdom of God! You already know that they can not if they do not alter their way.

And the beginning of their fall starts from the Course, for it is filled with Half-Truths/Half-Lies, Outright Lights, Blatant Lies.

And Except that they acquire the Knowledge of God, then their condemnation is guaranteed

chrisxxx:
See too many terms just to tell us his position.

ok, this is the translation of what I said!


"Death brings about a Termination of Marriage." Means when a married spouse dies, the Relationship (Contract) of Marriage is immediately brought to an end.

"Thus, they are no more "related" therefore being an Exception to the Law of Degrees of Affinity! And other lawful grounds"

The surviving spouse is now a stranger to the family as he was before he married his deceased partner, so therefore, he can choose any woman in his deceased wife's family to marry, if they consent (agree).

Now, The Law of the Marriage Act says you can not marry your wife's sister, while still married to your wife (This is the Law of Affinity which prohibits further marriage to close relations eg sister, mother, grandmother, step-mother etc). Which is what divorce (dissolution) or death solves.

But under Native Law, surely you would require the permission of your wife's family in order to properly fulfill your desire to acquire the sister as a wife.

Hope it is clearer now.

chrisxxx:
Why do lawyers like making life difficult?

could you please shed more light on the difficulty experienced?