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geoworldedu:
This pops up in my mind just now. With all these ambiguous conditions for making heaven, I doubt if God would be able to make heaven if he dwells on Earth.

Reasons
God is jealous
God hates Esau
God likes wars
God sent lying spirits
God tells likes
Etc.

He Already Did it!

That's what He came to Show us when He came to visit us on earth, that there is A Right Way to Live and be Above Every Reasonable Condemnation.

And He Passed Super Excellently, even Under Extreme Scrutiny from the Best of Best Observers and Knowers of The Law, such that The Word "Sinless" was introduced and Awarded to A Person, for The First Time!

So He crushed them all without breaking a sweat until the hardest one on the cross, yet He Did Not Fail!

He is My Hero and My Beacon/GPS and I am on the way towards accomplishing that same task!

8BowlofFlour:
As a Christian, we deeply thinks and try to understand the root of law and grace according to the Bible. Moses was the representative and forerunner of what law is about as received from Mount Sinai and sealed of the children of Israel.

Under the law, obedience is the only way and the only truth. Those who disobey the law are struck by different judgement.

But because the law was too absolute and God wanted to save mankind, he sent Christ his only begotten son. Christ died for our sins and offered us Grace in repentance. When you repent of your sins and a believe in Christ, you are saved by Grace.

But people want to practice the old ways of the law which Christ has been used as a substitute to the law. So you have to chose between the law and Christ. Christ has always been with the father since the beginning of the word. John chapter 1 verse 1 to 4 made this clear , " in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God. This shows that Chris has even been before the law.

So 2 Corinthians 3:6 says, " We cannot have one foot in the Law and one foot in Grace." So why don't we chose and hold on to Christ

Paul did not refer to God's Laws being replaced, he was speaking about "the Abuse and Wrong Application of God's Law which was prevalent at that time, as now,

Which also The Lord Challenged and kept in its proper and good perspective (if you want).

And The Lord openly and clearly declared, even before He began to Put The Law in its Proper View, that "He Did Not Come To Alter, Amend or Change The Law, rather He Came to Accomplish (Fully Fill) it".

Take correction, The Lord was very clear in His Declaration of Himself with The Law, which He clearly said He would not be altering nor which Paul, a lawyer himself, knew he did not make that Law therefore he knew he had no Jurisdiction to attempt to alter it, but now you imply that he altered it in crediting to him the concept of "Grace".

Grace has always been there since the beginning, look at Psalms, all it talks about is about the use of "Grace" in the Presence and Midst of The Law!

Eg Psalm 17:1/2, Psalm 5:3,4,5, Psalm 119:9 etc

LordReed:
A sweeping analysis of research on the h..U

I did not think that their brain was different or going to be different, if not there would have been antimalarial for women

However, even though the brain is the same, the thinking process is not, for where men think 1,2,3,4 women think 2, 4, 6, 8 or 1,3,5,7.

PeaceLovJoy:
.., and you claim just doing what Psalms say is automatically going to heaven. And the seriousness and boldness you are defending are high..

a man's wisdom maketh his face to shine, and the boldness of his face shall be changed.

And here is what a friend who has experienced what I say, said

We humbly bow
Before You now
We lift our lives up to You
On our knees we bring
Our humble offering
Of worship and honor and praise

Boldly we come to Your throne O Father
But only by grace can we come
We've been bought by the precious blood of the Lamb
We lay down our lives before You, Jesus
We willingly give You all
As humbly at Your feet we fall
For it's the highest place of all O Lord

On this Holy ground
Our hearts bow down
Your awesome splendor overwhelms
But there is no fear
For Jesus You are here
Your shed blood has made us a way (a way)

PeaceLovJoy:
Heavens will help you.

I have already declared it That it is well with me, so I am helped Already!

PeaceLovJoy:
You.are talking to people who have no had such experience, and you claim just doing what Psalms say is automatically going to heaven. And the seriousness and boldness you are defending are high. Describe your heaven, you said it is very sweet. Lol. And then you returned to say you did not go there to see gold. Did anyone ask you if its PS5 you dey go play there? Are you not the one who visits anytime? Oh! So gold is there too. Ok....you can continue.

I understand, I already made the mistake of going too far and did not remember

"If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Well,the proof of the jollof has always been in the eating, and this is the eating thereof and I do declare it, that

"it is well with my soul and my soul is full of good things." Exactly as Written.

So, ridicule me from evening to the morning, I do not eat the bread of sorrows nor drink the wine of bitterness nor sleep the sleep of the dead.

It is vain (and foolish) for you to rise up early, to come home late, to eat the bread of sorrows, because he shall give his beloved sleep.

The Lord is become my Shepherd and I want nothing, I rest in abundance and walk safely and surely and my soul is restored.

I have authority over snakes and scorpions and Nothing can harm me, No, not even death or evil.

And the Plagues in Revelation poured out all over the world as seen in the world today, do not come near my dwelling place even though I see them, Exactly as Written.

"A Thousand shall fall by my side and ten thousand by my right hand, but it shall not come nigh (me) thee."

So ridicule on for that is how they mocked Noah till the Floods came down and swallowed them up while Noah dwelt Safely in the Ark, hence a Living dog is better than a Dead lion!

PeaceLovJoy:
Let me just assume you are kidding with all your replies. You cant even defend what you claim and where you.have visited. So, if I ask you describe your home, you will start telling me your room is sweet, your kitchen is free from rats, your compound is free from snakes. Funny! Stop making jokes out of issues many want to know about. Anyway, best of luck bro!

I am not joking!

I do not go there to see streets of gold, gates of gold and all those things, I go there for my good welfare, so that I be safe from my enemies which is why I observed that my wicked enemies can not come there.

I go so that I may understand how to beat and overcome all the wickedness and evils this world throws at its inhabitants, so that I am not affected by them, as is Written.

I go for the Rivers of Life!

Seeing that the earth is cursed with hardness, I go so that I would obtain blessings in all things:

And having received the blessings of The Lord, I go so that I may give Thanks to The Lord and report that indeed His Words are True and that it is Done as He has said.

And I am happy to report that it is indeed very well with me and my household, exactly as Written, which is why I am able to say these things!

PeaceLovJoy:
So, in summary you go to heaven because you keep to these rules. Interesting. Hmmm!

Yep!

PeaceLovJoy:
Since you are a regular visitor, how does heaven look like. I am not asking for the description from any book or Bible. Be sincere with yourself. The heaven you always meet Him, kindly describe it for me. I am just interested. I am asking for your own description, and not the description of someone else, or Bible's description.

Here is another wahala, it is Almost indescribable but I can attempt to describe it like this.

First it's a Very Very Very Pleasant Place!

Secondly, it is A Very Very Very Sweet Place, All The-Evils and Evil is Absent there and they can not even come there, (They would be killed on sight if they approach the borders thereof and the-evils know this so dey no even dey near border).

So it is the safest place for a soul to be.

Also, Heaven is the Headquarters of the earth even though they are twins. (Let's not deviate)

It is when you are there that you would know that everything you know on earth is absolute rubbish, when 1 or 2 Information are passed to you, you will know that your earthly professors are absolute "mumus,"

Time does not seem to have hold. Let me stop here for some people on earth have just disturbed my peace and altered my spirit.

Janosky:
Bros, so King James of England is your spirit of truth.

Wetin Musa no go see for gate?

Mischief Maker!

"He deviseth mischief upon his bed; he setteth himself in a way that is not good; he abhorreth not evil.

It is you who said "so King James of England is your spirit of truth", not i, for what I said is Clearly Recorded up.there.

PeaceLovJoy:
Oh! You mentioned visa. Hmmmm! I think when I am applying for visa, I am always given requirements to fulfill. I must have certain amount of money...must show I will return....must show I have a reasonable reason for traveling, etc. I can say that all you wrote above I can take as the requirements to be qualified to meet Him. So which means, you are not yet qualified to buy ticket. You are just qualified.

The above are requirements. So, let us say you have fulfilled the requirements, how do you reach that heaven? How do you always buy return tickets? How did you go there the last time?

Go on....I am reading.

That is One Of The Many Many Goodness and Sweetness of The Lord, All His Things are Free!

You do not pay for anything. All is Provided and Supplied FOR FREE! Original "Osho Free" with No Terms and Conditions.

So all you need to do is simply comply with The Law and Find the Nearest Plane to Heaven. Your Ticket is Compliance with The Law!

For the Return Trip, why would you want to return?

However, you must return because your second body and (evil buddy) who you left behind will beckon on you to return to the affairs of this world, where you have been appointed to be.

So the return trip is in an instant. However there is More which I can not tell you at this instance.

The Lord Hates Money and did not make it but let's not off course.

Additional!
Just saw "Reasonable Reasons for Traveling", Surely, you already have reasonable reasons to embark on this Trip

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is a BIG LIE!

"He who alleges Must Prove"

Since You say it is a Lie, Prove the Lie!

However, It would be an effort in futility for you and a complete emptiness to and for me for I derive no gain in your proof.

And I do not engage in unprofitable activities, thus, it is very sufficient for me that by Established Natural Truths combined with my rigorous testing, I Do Declare The KJV Bible Fit for Consumption by the General Public!

PeaceLovJoy:
According to you,

1. God is in heaven
2. You are on earth.

Yes, I confirm this!

PeaceLovJoy:
How do you go to heaven to meet God when you are on earth? Kindly explain explicitly. Give 3 examples of your trip to heaven.

Exactly like going to Melbourne from Abuja and the First Step is To Comply with The Laws for expediting a Smooth Transmission else you shall be an illegal migrant and thus you shall be expelled. (Like the the illegal Feast Crasher in the Bible)

Therefore, you will require a passport, obtain an Entry Permission called Visa, then you purchase a ticket taking you to Melbourne not Addis Ababa! (U no go reach Melbourne be dat)

Hence, for A Trip to Heaven, Law 1, and the Hardest Part for all men, Psalm 24:3,4

3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? or who shall stand in his holy place?

Answer!
4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. (it is here all men have trouble with, and without clearing this Passport issue, you will never be able to travel at will as you will not have the visa to Travel)

Law 2, Grant of Visa! Psalm 15

"Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?

Answer!
2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.

3 He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.

4 In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the Lord. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.

5 He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent (Very Serious Obstacle for the children of men to Pass this Visa Grant Interview, so how shall they be able to make the Trip now?)

3) Law 3, Matthew 5:20

“For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees (Pastors, Politicians, Neighbours, Friends, Family etc), YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.”

There you have it, The Laws necessary to make and Establish a Trip to Heaven.

Any more questions?

MaxInDHouse:
Authorized by a Spirit that failed to unite the users of KJV, ordinary customers of a beer parlour are united by the taste of beer and they will think twice before raising weapons against one another due to what they shared.
But those believing in the KJV are killing themselves like no man's business.
SPIRIT Indeed!

I do not deny that some KJV adherents are really downright nasty, mean, abusive, proud, arrogant, envious, unyeilding, doing things that are not good and even shape-shifting so as to defend their views or press home their views as clearly Evident here in Nairaland.

However, in this world, it is seen that there is not Always 1 Truth in many cases.

A lot of timees there are Many Truths, and the case of the 10 Blind Men Describing an Elephant occurs.

But that does not mean that The Spirit of Truth has not Taken Hold of the KJV, after all it is still The same Spirit that gives the Power of Interpretation as happened to Joseph, David, Daniel etc.

PeaceLovJoy:
1. Where is He and Always is?

Good question!

Answer 1) "Our Father, Who art in Heaven"

2) "The heavens is His Throne, the earth is His Footstool". Remember, The Throne and A King are Inseparable, therefore you can Find Him where? On The Throne!

3) "He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh;..." Psalm 2:4

4) "I cried unto The Lord with my voice, and He heard me out of His Holy Hill." Psalm 3:4.

Where is His Holy Hill?
Psalm 11:4 and
"The Lord is in His Holy Temple, The Lord's Throne is in heaven: His eyes behold (See), His Eye-lids Try, (React in Judgement) the children of men.

These and many more scriptures tell you where The Lord is Resident, Where He is and Where He can Always be Found!

PeaceLovJoy:
2. Where are you? And where are you always? Where are you at the relevant time?

Go on and answer the questions. Reading

Answer 1) "I have made the earth, and created man upon it" Isaiah 45:12

2) The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men,.. where are the children of men? They are always on earth. Psalm 14.

3) "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world." John 8:23.

Do you now see that where The Lord is and where we are, are 2 Distinct and Separate Locations, like Melbourne is not Abuja?

We are already equal since we are from the same Manufacturer!

..

Superpower:
Authorized by who?

Authorized by The Spirit of Truth!

The same Spirit which makes us believe you at one time when you say "Hi, my name is Segun" and we knew you were Truly a Segun and we accepted it.

Yet another time, a person said his name is "Kechi" and we believed him not and it later turns out that he was Osas!

Yes, that same Spirit tells us that KJV is Acceptable and Good and this is The Authority of the KJV!

jiggaz:
28 Feb 2021 - Mask-Wearing Ends Before the Rapture - Pastor Joseph Prince Sermon Notes - New Creation Church Sermon Notes...

Oh, so you are still waiting and hoping for the Spaceship called "Rapture"?

Ok oh, it's your legs after all!

KNOWMORE56:
I want to read the views/opinions of others in this forum before I start to share the full information sent to me.
So, mynd44 lalasticala Dominique and others can be of help.

See part of the information in the next post

Yes! The Bible has been wickedly and cunningly altered.

And as we say in Law, "Who stands to benefit from the offence/act of alteration?"

Only One, Satan and his very many children on earth!

PeaceLovJoy:
Could you say precisely in simple words how He has spoken to you. You said regularly, kindly just narrate 3 experiences. Not attacking you, I just want to know how He has been speaking to you.

Gladly!

But permit to first lay this ground, the first thing I learnt to know is "Where He is + Where He Always Is" vis a vis "Where I am and where I am always plus where I am at the relevant time".

So, I always go to "Where He is and Always is" to meet with Him there.

And it is exactly as this "it is only when I log-in into Nairaland" that I may see that you have just spoken to me or sent me a message.

Outside Nairaland I will never ever ever see or hear or know that you have spoken to me.

Thus, I may erroneously say that you have never spoken to me!

Are you with me so far? And do you have any question?

reubenobi:
JW don't believe such.

Ah! That is power that our Creator has given all men.

A HD Tv can still be said to be a Computer's Monitor while another may say it is a Black Mirror or a wall decoration.

It is their view of their own choosing and no man has power to compell them to alter it. They would only alter it if they think it should be altered or they desire it to be altered and this will and can still be done by their own power whether anyone has a contrary view or not.

But all in all, the Proof of the Fruit is the proof of the Planting!

LordReed:
What is the noun for someone lying if not liar? You came here accusing me of lying for telling how I feel about the op question based on nothing but your own assumptions. Is that how to behave as someone who wants to remain civil?

It was a friendly jibe exactly as one friend playfully says to another "why you dey lie na?" No hurt intended.

And as you can see this is a topic where people can safely say whatever they like whether true or not, it is of no effect.

But I was not trying to hurt you and since you felt hurt, I do apologize!

LordReed:
That was not a reasonable response, it was a full on malign mischaracterisation because you want to score some cheap points in a conversation...

Oh I see you misunderstand me, both here and in the greater world, i NEVER Insult, ridicule or mock a person indirectly or covertly, I Always Do it Directly to their face and in their face. It is weak people, cheats and cowards who attack from behind and I am none of these things and will never be.

LordReed:
You came on here and practically called me a liar with absolutely no reason to do so which you even stated, these are not the actions of someone who wants to remain civil. You've been warned.

Here I was not attempting to call you liar for I spoke directly to you and immediately left of but I was later called up by another to give the reason for my statement to you, which prompted my response.

Yea He does! In fact He Speaks very regularly

larryking540:
when u have money aging shouldn't scare you ,

That's a Lie, infact it gets worse!

LordReed:
You seem to want us to go back to our previous state. You've been pushing the buttons. Don't cry crocodile tears when the claws come out. This is your final warning.

Ah ah! It is not possible for what I said to have offended you now.

For I was understandably called upon to explain why I did not believe you spoke the Truth to which I was compelled to answer Truly, but I also respected your land and Trespassed Not!

Or are you also saying that you desire that I do not reasonably respond to your comments?

For I know that I have not said or done anything to commence hostilities, so is it an offence to you that I respond to your statements?

for I respect people's personal space as I would want them to respect mine

The5DME:
The perfume does not possess consciousness; we do.

Consciousness is a gift, supposed to be your personal phone to connect you with your Maker.

However, it your does not change the fact that you are like your perfume neither does it remove you from your wardrobe (world).

Like your perfume and cars, you are still in the wardrobe and garage/compound, not going anywhere.

diportivo:
I don't even know which is worse

driving with high beam and blinding other road users,or driving drunk on a suicide attempt

wahala dey o

All bad for they have the same end!

kingreign:
F*UK!
And you weren't perturbed one bit?
Do you know you were endangering yourself and other road users alike by driving under the influence of alcohol?

This isn't funny a bit. It's a very serious thing. Anything could suddenly happen even when you're fully alert and with a clear head and the next thing is accident.

Pls stay off driving if you must drink, and stay off drinking if you must drive. Don't mix both together.

I'm saying this cos I have friends, colleagues, partners, family members, clients helpers etc using the road too and won't want any sad stories that touches.

He has apologized already but there are still about 99, 000 others out there who are not in here who daily commit this offence.

obidevine:
Which one be joystick again?

Your steering full like Xbox game pad only say joystick no dey!

mariahAngel:
Why then do you doubt others when they say they're not afraid?

Sis, I have been in the canvas, mud and all with that guy, He Hates God like earthworms hates salt eh.

Seriously, Everything about God and the Bible peppers his soul, so as you said "...Only God's perfect love can cast out fear.", So how is he not going to be afraid?

Liposure:
To me, God exist but he's aloof.

Men rejected Him, as a girl you loved rejects you, is it not natural that after consistent rejection, He shall stay away and Must stay Away?

truthsayer009:
Classic Chicken and egg question, it never ends.

Yep, because it is not possible for a creation to know beyond its creation like your phone discovering that you were born, whosai! Impossible!