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Blabbermouth:
Shock me... Are you saying Vishnu, Krishna, Allah and the God of Abraham are one and the same?

Do you see the folly of your quest when you realise that Names or identification of God are Always in an unknown Tongue and a foreign language?

Even English is not our local language until it was foisted upon us, so the Name God which is English language, Dieu in French, Nyasaye in Kenyan language is already subject to diversity of language and tongue eg Chineke, Abasi, Osenobua, Osanobua, Eledumare/Oluwa.

However, it is easy to spot a fake god, it is one who encourages and promotes the doing of that which is reasonably bad, wicked or evil!

Maximus69:
Blabbermouth is not asking for evidence of God's existence because he already believe in that, what he's worried about is the confusion amongst Trinitarians why you're not worshiping the same way and why JWs keeps claiming our own God differs totally from yours!

Yeah I understand but that challenge touches on every subject of discord which is iseverrable at the same time.

Maximus69:
Just as you wish, you wish you wish!

Meanwhile Blabbermouth's challenge still awaits all false religionsists, atheists and agnostics.
Why not take up the challenge and prove yours is the only true God?

you are asking that I do a foolish thing, I do not do foolish things!

What is evident requires no evidence.

Maximus69:
Don't tell me you're quoting Jesus o!

Because that's his last statement before performing the greatest sacrifice ever offered on this planet, but after his resurrection he said
"All powers both in heaven and on earth has been given to me, so go therefore and make disciples of people of the nations" Matthew 28:18-19

My guy this is the opportunity to speak for him as one of his Witnesses and make disciples of people of all kinds {Act 1:8} it's not just making noise in the street corners {Matthew 12:19} and buses without reaching the heart of people who have questions regarding Faith! Matthew 7:7

Jesus never said it's finished for his disciples to stop working zealously preaching and teaching to convince people about him!

Speak for Him?

Did He Not Speak Directly? Did they listen?

I have spoken for Him before, did they listen?

I stand By and On His Word that "they would not hear me, for they hateth He Who sent me"

Blabbermouth:
LMAO......... What was finished? Till 9pm sha.

9pm no far now!

But what happened yesterday 9pm?

Maximus69:
Is this how you make an illustration?

No wonder you can't comprehend the illustrations in God's word!

Someone asks all lousy religionsists to prove their God is the true God, you're running away from the challenge, but later you'll claim you are worshiping the same God as Elijah did.

Thank God Elijah proved what Blabbermouth is asking today in his own time, so this has nothing to do with either horse, water or force Sir, it's about boldly witnessing for your God publicly like Apostle Paul did to convince his listeners that his God is the only true God!

Come on maximus, why doth thou tempt me?

I Clearly Declare that I and God Who is God, Do Not Do Nullities!

He was not joking when He Said "it is Finished!".

DappaD:
Hmmm.
Can any human being today deny that there are physical laws governing the universe—such as gravity and cause?
And we're to expect those kind of laws came to be by mere wishful thinking and chance?

Then there won't be that wicked thing which we call lying if they can not deny an Established Truth, like Laws!

People like Xmuslim, kingxsams, Somvayina, Otem, LortReed would have choked to death if Jim Carrey's Liar, Liar happened on them.

But the Lord God has given them power to either say the Truth or to Deny the Truth and Lie also whichever pleases them.

Blabbermouth:
I can decide to call beans, water, and egg carbohydrates... It doesn't change the fact that there is a perfect solution for testing if those foods are actually carbohydrate or not. There is a big line between IGNORANCE and FACT.

Yes there is but you would be caught up by the Law that you can force a horse to the river but you can never get it to drink.

And the drinking is what you are trying to achieve, which I do say, is unachievable!

olawalepopoola:
She hates because she was not allowed to control their home. A friend of mine is in that situation now.

Then you are already doing what you are supposed to be doing, which is driving your Ship/Plane (home) as A Captain with Your Co-Captain!

Yeah, mothers do not like that, but she was once captain of her home and over you then but now you are Captain of your own house with your own personal Co-Captain!

It's your Ship/Plane, when you enter her Ship then she can captain you!

But it is your Ship/Plane now. Captain on!

Missyajoke:
Don't know what to be whether tribulations before rapture or rapture before tribulations. As a christian be prepared for his coming.

Yes m'lady for a servant who is Always doing the works his Master has appointed him, does not worry when his Master shall Come!

Brachaa:
Hell is the grave. The final destination for lost souls is the lake of fire. Simple!

Tell them sister!

Maximus69:
This supposed to be the question instead of continuing with your pigheadedness in what is not literal!

"They will be tormented there forever and ever"

Means the memories of evildoers will continue to linger in the minds of those who survive the end of wickedness! Just as the thought of those destroyed in Noah's day, Sodom and Gomorrah keeps lingering in the hearts of faithful servants of God till today! Matthew 10:15, 24:37

Whenever anyone mention "Noah's day" the thought of a global deluge comes to mind, and at the mention of "Sodom and Gomorrah" the thought of fire from heaven comes to mind!

Rkelly said, you wish, you wish, you wish!

Blabbermouth:
Take a nap bro, it's almost 9pm.

But truly as we have our present freedom to choose, some can choose Cooking Pots as gods, Torches, Yansh (excuse my language), Otem, LortReed, Watches, Cars, Buda, Somevagina, etc as their gods.

In fairness, they would still be their gods even if it is Fake.

This is a case that Properly Proves that we are in a Carton (world) like laptops, phones shoes etc and these things are contending between themselves who is their Creator, whether it is Nokia or HP or Apple!

This is an argumentum infinitum until the Creator comes and reveals Himself to us, before this dispute can be properly settled.

You missed the word "the One shall be taken" not "one shall be taken!".

So, now, who is that "the one"?

Ghen-gheen!

Presently Present! Is the lecture still holding?

DappaD:
Let's focus our attention on the bolded/highlighted words.
@bolded
So in essence, Adam, being the perfect man that he was, sinned and brought death on all mankind(Romans 5:12)—then he passed off from existence and returned to dust just as God said he would(Genesis 3:19)

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And what is the premise for this assumption? (Given that the lake of fire is different from your mythical “hellfire”)

First, I am not one who says hellfire, I always say Lake of Fire! The Bible Clearly differentiates the 2.

And finally we are Clearly told that hell and death is thrown into the Lake of Fire!

The basis of the Truth of this Fact is Clearly Spelt out in the Words Revelation 20:12-15
"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the dead were judged, death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works, And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

I am not the one who said these things!

DappaD:
You presented irrelevant information that had nothing to do with my question.

I have presented relevant information and you can not answer.

DappaD:
Are you saying that God changed his mind as regards to where humans go when they die

See Ojoro question! What was God's mind for the Man (male + female) at the beginning? Was death in the plan?

My answer is No as shown by the words "in the day that you eat it, you shall die" meaning as long as the Man did not eat that fruit, is as long as the Man shall live and when the Man eats that fruit, he shall die!

The Man ate the fruit and the man died!

So "did God change His Mind?"

My answer, there is No Mind that God Needed to Change for it is not He or His Mind Who Changed but the Man is who is Changed!

And therefore, we are lucky and blessed that God is Making a Way to bring us, the Man, back to His Original Plan and Mind since we, the Man have Changed.

Therefore, it is Us, the Man, who is Duty Bound to Change into what God had First Created, if we want!

DappaD:
And you've not been able to answer me straightforward—where is Adam now?
Simple!

I answered you and I told you that First Adam is gone, gone forever and never to be seen or heard from again.

But this is not so for the Man who comes after Adam, Lake of Fire shall be his dwelling place to Live Forever in Torment!

Xmuslim:
it will shock you if Allah is more powerful than jehovah. Na hell fire go be your abode be that . Allah will be changing your skin once they burned so that you can feel the pain (as written in the quran) .. Hahahaha.

Religious people never stop amazing me. Your brain has been programmed to believe in nonsensical

aha, have you not heard that My God is looking for any who can challenge Him or change His work?

Did Allah not hear? Did he answer? Does he not lay silent as though he be dead?

Or alternatively if in some other tongue, the Most Powerful is called Allah, then He shall not be fighting with Himself and His Will of Lake of Fire shall be implemented.

LordReed:
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wetin concern me, I don do my homework now. No be you Teacher go flog and and School go Expell go Lake of Fire?

Maximus69:
May Jehovah's name be Sanctified for ever and ever, Amen in Jesus name!

The Lord God has Already beaten you to this For He Has Already Glorified His Name Again and Again and Again and Again without your help or asking!

Blabbermouth:
You won't have the time to be laying any grievances...

Oh did you not read that we should rest a little season until I and my brother appointed to be killed, is done and thereafter, our cries for justice shall be heard? Revelation 6:10 and 11.

sonmvayina:
We are Gods spirit or breadth dwelling within a physical body fashioned from the dust of the earth.. Why will God send his spirit to hell?.. You don't want to unlearn and relearn..
"send fort your spirit and they are created and replenish the earth, take it and they die and return back to earth.. Psalm 104:29-31..Ecclesiatics 12:7..

if ye are god, then beware of the god-killer!

Blabbermouth:
Even "I" cannot stop myself from going to heaven, I fear nothing bro.
I wished there would be no Lake of fire but death for once and death for all that did not believe in the son of God.

I am thankful for the Justice of Lake of Fire and For Such Further Justice that The Lord God May Deem Fit to Make.

For I can not wait for the Day When the Holy and Just Court shall be convened, that I may lay all my grievances Against All that the Wicked and the Evil have done, That The Just Judge will give me My Compensation and My Just Judgment!

And it is the Law that Any who has done these wicked and evil things, is worthy and qualified for Eternal Torment in the Lake of Fire!

Xmuslim:
Common sense should tell you that one of the barriers I crossed before becoming non religious is the lack of fear of the imaginary hell fire

Shall a man take up hot coals and not be burnt? Shall you see a lion and shall not fear? Shall you not die on your feet when an Earth Moving Caterpillar approach you for to crush you?

You can lie with your lips but you can not lie to the Spirit!

DappaD:
If you calm down and allow the “power of reason” God bestowed on you to play its role(Romans 12:1)—you'll see the truth in all Maximus69 is saying.
How dare you quote Revelation 21:8 that talks about the “lake of fire” and ignore the rest that says it culminates in a “second death” without a resurrection?

I did not ignore anything it is rather that I truly understand all or at least very many things, which forms the basis of my answer.

And to answer you with respect to this Eternal Living Matter, I very much thank Peggywebbs for saving me much trouble and doing a great job in putting all that I should say to you in Proving the Truth of Eternal Life of Torment, here it is

peggywebbs:
It's not to scare people. It is just simply what it is. Here its in the Bible. You can check.

Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 20:15 - And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Matthew 25:46 - And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Mark 9:43-48 - And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: (Read More...)

Matthew 13:50 - And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Revelation 20:14 - And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

2 Thessalonians 1:9 - Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Revelation 20:10 - And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Psalms 145:20 - The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy.

Matthew 5:22 - But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Revelation 14:11 - And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Please permit my slight Amendments Peggywebbs!

Curiously, there are 12 Warnings Of This Eternal Torment issued here!

DappaD, I rest my case!

DappaD:
Since you claim to know the Bible, can you please tell us where the first man Adam is presently? As in explain using scriptures this time.

To put it simply without departing from this thread, First Adam and the Laws in Genesis 1 follows the world at Noah's Time.

Thus, First Adam died Completely and Absolutely exactly as God said he must.

So First Adam got nothing like Life not to even talk of Life buku-buku or Eternal Life or Everlasting Life or Unending Life BASED ON THE LAW IN FORCE AT THAT TIME.

THIS LAW ALSO AFFECTED THE PEOPLE IN NOAH'S TIME And it was ONLY NOAH and his family that escaped it.

The Rains and Flood Completely Washed, Consecrated and Baptised the World, Noah and his family (BAPTISM BY WATER).

Thus, all who came up from the flood was Anew and Fresh and the World too was Fresh Again.

Genesis 9, Shows NEW LAWS WAS ISSUED to the Fresh World (which we are still part of today).

And look closely at those Laws, they Amend and Changed the Laws in Genesis 1.

And it is in consonance to this change of Laws that Eternal Life and Living in Introduced.

DappaD:
Are you that desperate?

Your aim now is to see how to convince atheists to see the light in God's word rather than being a laughing stock and threatening them with your nonexistent and deprecated hellfire.
So much for you being a “truth speaker” .

Aha desperate ke? I have said it before and I will say it again, save say a few words, I will never stop anyone who wishes to drink Sniper. So also do not i seek the conversion of anyone, be it atheist, Satanist or any one in the practice or religion of a False Teaching.

If anyone decides to change, they are going to do it for themselves. And Just as their Death is there own and not mine, so also shall be theirs, their Life.

But my will and delight is to shoot down All Untrue Doctrines, False Teachings and Perilous Advocacies, Dividing the Truth From the Lie!

OtemAtum:
In a case whereby you people worship a creature like yourself, what sense does it make? Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Ahura Mazda, Vishnu, etc whom you worship are creatures of God Almighty and it only cause noise and confusion worshipping them.

Now you are changing your post (CYP) as you usually do when a matter is settled and you can not rebut.

For your post is about the wisdom of worshiping God and not about My Specific Worship of My God, which is of no concern of yours at this time.

So it is settled then!

Maximus69:
The Bible book of Revelations is full of sacred secrets that needs to be unraveled, of course you will see the phrase "Lake of Fire" but you'll need the help of God's chosen sons (Born Again Christians) to understand those terms. Daniel 12:10
They were given in symbols because of fallen angels {1Peter 3:20; 2Peter 2:4; Jude 6} who also wants to understand the secret of God's word in order to reveal this secrets to their human agents {1Peter 1:12} note that the Bible said those angels were kept in dense darkness or prison, it simply means God no more reveal certain secret regarding the endtime to anyone {Matthew 24:36} though he sends his loyal angels message but as for the fallen angels (demons) they only knew their destruction is fast approaching, they're in the dark regarding many things! Matthew 8:29

So try to learn from the true Christians the meaning of those symbols, we'll be glad to assist you, it's not automatic, Jesus has revealed it to his brothers and they're the ones teaching us! 1Corinthians 4:7

God bless you!

Bla bla bla sheep you don't have any wool? Yes sir, yes sir, no bags full! None for the master, none for the dame, none for the little boy who sits in Nairaland!

Bla bla blah Sheep!

Maximus69:
I knew from your dancing around that you're still coming back to argue what i clearly stated but it is not about arguement Sir, it is God's word that will touch even the hearts of diehard atheists! Hebrew 4:12

Don't be deceived, God doesn't threaten people to serve him, he only appeal to them {Isaiah 1:18} so if your religion is all about threat then know that it's not from the God of LOVE {1John 4:8} the truth of God's word is not about threat but sweet appeal that will touch the heart of anyone who listens with keen interest! Act 26:24-28

God bless you!

You are toooo inconsequential to be threatened!

It is A Great Waste of Threat to Threaten You!

And God does not do wastages!

Imagine seeing Mr Toyoda threatening the Camry, you no go laff am? And would you not call him insane?

You are not worth threatening!