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ggirl4real:
You just made my eyes wet.

So how should we do it? Do we have to resort to violence and kill all "evil" people?

Is there no special way Christians can pray for God to automatically change Nigeria for good?

Is there no special prophet out there whom God can answer concerning the case of Nigeria?

Are we completely helpless and hopeless?

If the word of God is not changing the heart of supposed believers, what will change them?

Is there nothing we can do?

I just tire for this country mata.

I painfully have to say that, that is what it means to be in these Trouble-lation Times!

ggirl4real:
There's absolutely nothing wrong in believing what you believe.

My own is that it should be for the common good of all.

I look forward to the times when Nigeria will be positively transformed for the best through religion. That's my earnest prayer.

I wish it were so but I know that this will never be.

LordReed:
There were atheists even before the 1st book of the bible was written and there'll be atheists long after the last speck of the dust of your corpse has blown away.

I do not contest that for in this world, it is seen that where man is, disobedience, rebellion and all manners of foolishness shall be there also, so no opposition here.

ggirl4real:
What fact are you talking about please?

The much I will say is that i was raised around diplomatic lines and very very much travelled.

But, I am not the focus here, I only made my point in answer giving my Truest Answer to them, without any plan of changing your mind on the subject.

For me, i am only simply just raising myself to test the Strength of my knowledge and the basis of my belief, if it is Sure as the Bible says or it can be made to fall.

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! Its like predicting that tomorrow some people shall wake from their beds on the left side and they will have a great day, a completely mundane happening. LMAO!

Always the Snake!

From Way before, even before the 1960s, 70s, 80s and part of the 90s, you could not have thought to say the vile things you and your kind say.

It was inconceivable.

But suddenly, your tongues are loosened and all manners of blaspemies excrete out.

But as I have said earlier, this are the days of blasphemies, Exactly As the Lord God Has Said that it Must Come!

So you are only doing your work as Judas Iscariot did his when the time came.

ggirl4real:
I was not there when the Biblical events happened, I'm very sure you were not there too.

On that note, I can choose to believe or disbelieve those events.

Who knows, maybe some intellectual people gang up to write those stories and set things in place to make them look real. I can't prove that those events happened or not and I'm sure you can't prove either.

That's why I said that Religion is all about BELIEFS, what you Christians called " Faith".

You choose to believe that those events happened. Another person can choose to believe that they didn't happen until they see proves.

None of them is better than the other person because they just choose what to and not to believe.

Oh, you are young! 1967 is not far from me, I saw these facts and your Google is in your hand to verify.

Also Nairaland too, is in your hand!

I believe because I Saw and my belief, is My Belief.

You are always free to make yours, without any restriction and I always respect it.

Xavfra:


Bullshit as usual.....your God only remembers to come down when atheists rise against stupidity...

But when his people are suffering he stays in his shell peeping at what is happening

what you do not know is that God Left this world for your father, the'evil and it is he who is running many things now.

Whilst God Settled His Own Children (rapture) before He left, hence, there is No Suffering for Us, your wicked father, the-evil, on the other hand, doeth what he does best, which is to toture and cause his children much pain and suffering and hardship.

ggirl4real:
Please what are the "solid proofs" for religion?

Religion always means habits or regular practice.
So the Solid Proof of my Devotion and Love to God as obtained from the Bible is seen in todays Solid Proof that Isreal is there, Egypt is there, The Fulfillment of the Word of the Lord is even here in Nairaland.

Solid Proofs
1) My God said Isreal shall be Scattered, it was so.

2) He said Again that Isreal shall be Put back in place "AND THEY SHALL NEVER BE SCATTERED AGAIN". in 1967 Isreal came back and till today, NO ONE CAN THINK TO REMOVE ISREAL FROM THEIR PLACE!

And we are all Witnesses to the Truth of This

3) My God said that in the Days Preceding His Judgement Upon the World, Scoffers, scorners, mockers shall rise up to blaspheme His Holy Name and Self.

And here in Nairaland, we have geoworld, OtemAtum, Xmuslim, lordreed, Xavfra and others, there statements here Bulls Eye the Word My God Spoke many many centuries before they were born.

ggirl4real:
Of course.

When you use things belonging to others as your own, you hinder their happiness. That is an evil practice.

Yes, Please!

But I see that most people forget that All Things, Including Themselves, Belong to God too.

So they also use themselves wrongfully, as you rightly and truly said.

ggirl4real:
I have to ask the OP o

Because I know of many godly and ardent believers who have been seeking to hear from God for several years concerning one issue or the other, yet nothing come out.

And this is their error already.

They are the ones who are Instructing the Lord on what He should have to say on the subject (like a babalawo). Therefore, He will Never Answer Them.

Rather they Ought to Listen to All He has to say to them on Any Subject.

ggirl4real:
What if someone possess all these qualities and is still not hearing anything from God, what is the problem?

Is it "village people"?

God Always Speaks Using your spirit (heaven) who you really are.

Your skin and flesh is like the Camry and your spirit is like you when you enter the Camry which is why the Bible always says "look within".

Leave your Camry (body) and listen from within (heaven), Where God is!

ggirl4real:
If Hedonism is all about seeking pleasure and avoiding suffering, I see nothing wrong with that school of thought.

However, any philosophy that hinders the peaceful coexistence and happiness of other people in the pursuit of one's personal comfort, is not the best.

And to use the things belonging to Another Person as if it is your own, is very offensive!

That is just the word of Caution here!

Tamaratonye5:
I have often heard hedonism decried by pretentious superstition, but can someone offer any rational or moral reason why pursuing earthly sensual and self indulgent pleasures is to be avoided?

I mean as long as no one else is harmed or exploited to obtain them, where’s the harm? I mean what else is there anyway?

The Bible advocates for Balance and Reasonable Pursuits of Happiness, so that you hurt no one whether your fellow man or Your Owner, The Lord God, Who has only granted and given you permission to use His Things in a Reasonable Way.

That is what the Bible Counsels, for your continuous good preservation.

Preciousgirl:
When a man is dying, does he know he is dying?

What runs through his mind?

Yes, they do.

That is why the Bible describes it as the "Shadows of Death'' or "point of death"

No reasonable person can not be in a shadow and not know it.

CAPSLOCKED:
THIS POST IS UTTER CRAP.
USING THE NAME OF YOUR GOD ALMIGHTY MILLIONS LOST THEIR LIVES ALL OVER THE WORLD. THROUGH FORCEFUL CONVERSION OR FOR BLASPHEMY. MILLIONS OF YOUR ANCESTORS PERISHED FOR THE WHITE MAN'S GOD, AND HERE YOU ARE PUSHING ALL THE BLAME TO THE KORAN AS IF THE BIBLE DOESN'T CONTAIN WORSE.

THE BIBLE IS THE MOST COMPLETE MANUAL FOR EVERYTHING EVIL. IS IT RAPE? HUMAN SACRIFICE? MISOGYNY? MURDER? RITUAL KILLINGS?
WHAT WE HAVE FOR CHRISTIANITY IS PACKAGING BROUGHT BY TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT AND MODERN DEVELOPMENTS. TAKE THESE AWAY AND YOU YOU HAVE THE OLD ELDER BROTHER OF THE EVIL AND BARBARIC ISLAM.

Glory be to God that your Statement Proves the Innocency of God and the Guilt of Men.

Since Adam man has been continually disobedient and discarding the Clear Instructions of God and Always doing whatever Pleases him whether it was actually good or wicked, he did not care, as long as he pleases himself, he is fine and the rest of the world can either burn or do their own whatever they like.

Which has been done now and it is what is still being done even today and what shall go on in worse proportions even tomorrow, until God brings an End To Them All!

ggirl4real:
I don't understand your response...

If you tell someone who has never heard about or seen a washing machine that there's something like that and go ahead to outline the advantages over manual washing, the person can proceed to get the machine to test if what you said about the machine is true.

When the person confirms that you were right, that is a proof to that person.

I am saying, Proof is Always giving by Someone else other than you.

And that it is ONLY when you personally take up that Proven Fact, and become a WITNESS to and of that Fact, that you can confidently and efficiently certify the Truth or otherwise of that same Proven fact.

And you Now becoming a Further Or Second Proof to The Truth of that Fact.

And it is only after you have tried a fact personally that you can effectively prove or disprove the Truth of that fact to another.

ggirl4real:
This cannot be said of religion. Religion is built on 'faith' and not proofs.

Religion always means habits or regular practice.

So the Practice of the Reverence and Deference to God is Actually Based on Knowledge which is Faith and Solid Proofs, not on an idea hanging in space and vacuum, being ungrounded and Unfounded as popularly taught!

lightblazingnow:
Hallelujah

Hallelujah!

Deborah98:
Dtruthspeaker said it all.... whatever you do frequently is a religion itself,just like waking up to pray, giving alms, obeying government orders etc,every religion supports morality but it's quite sad that the morality or moral standards which our fathers and mothers back then practiced and upheld without compromise it's fast diminishing, someone is caught in an act and instead of accepting that what you did is bad they'll start the slogan of am I the only one doing it,or it's a normal thing naaa...

Yes, sister, it is very terrible BUT the Lord Told us that He shall go for a season and that the Evil Prince would come. John 14:30

And that when the evil prince comes, all these things which we now see, shall happen.

Another Prophecy Fulfilled!

DanTheGeek:
Valid point bro.

I respectfully thank you!

Xmuslim:
by your logic, human can use his brain to test scripture. So, how did you know that your Bible is from God and Qur'an is not from God. Answer this question without using your intellect

The simplest basis I can provide is that I Saw and Perceived that Only Good things are allowed and permited in this world and Bad/wicked things are condemned and disallowed.

And I saw that the Bible has the Highest and Best Standard of the Measurement of What is Good and Emphatically Promotes the Doing of All Goods with no limit.

And that is on one hand.

At the other, it describes All the Diverse kinds of Bads/Wickedness and Evils that man can do, or has done or is capable of doing, Condemning Them All in Entirety!

And seeing that the Bible told that there is a God Who Has Commanded that Good should be done in the earth and IT IS DONE, Therefore, He is The God and Ruler of the earth

For even bad people do not want bad, ONLY GOOD!

The Koran Failed Miserably at this for I have seen that even the wicked people love the Koran but Hate the Bible with their whole soul.

ggirl4real:
So which is the better way in this context and how did you arrive at it being the better way?

IMO, your example of washing machine doesn't apply in this context because it has been proven and generally accepted that washing machine is better than manual washing.

With regards to religion, adherents of diverse religious beliefs have been convinced through indoctrination that theirs is superior even without generally accepted proofs.

And you said the very words "it has been proven" by others. For their proof was done by Another Person, not you.

You always take up a matter not knowing whether what was proven or promoted is True.

The taste of the jollof rice and chicken, is always in the eating of it!

Maximus69:
Blasphemy is no more an offence which the punishment must come from humans according to God's only begotten Son, he himself said in the Bible book of Revelations 22:11 "let anyone do whatever pleases them regarding Godly matters, i am coming and my reward is with me to repay each person according to their deeds"

But as for Geoworldedu, this person is not in any way a blasphemer at all, he is just trying to ridicule religionsists and Churchgoers who thinks they have a reason to believe in God.
Blasphemy according to God's word can become an offence only when you have vowed to be loyal to God but began challenging God's authority by speaking abusively of his standards!
Note that the Israelites were asked to kill the blasphemers in their midst but before a person can be rightly judged as a blasphemer, he/she must first of all be one of them as in a worshiper of the same God.
So Geoworldedu is not worshiping with any group, otherwise it's the group that would have corrected his misconception about God.
That's why it is necessary to know the GROUP you belong to, that's the only reason why you can be reproved, corrected or called to order when you're going against the tenets of the God you vowed to worship.
Like the case of blasphemy going on presently in the northern part of Nigeria, the accused is one of the worshipers of their God and he knows the consequences of what he did, so if anyone is now complaining over what the man himself choose to live or die for, the complainant should check himself, because the accused will also join his fellow religionsists to call for the head of someone who is accused as infidel in their midst.
So Geoworldedu is not a blasphemer in anyway, he never got baptized (vowed) in any group, he's not associating with any group, therefore he is just expressing himself in the best way he could, and Jesus said "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks" {Luke 6:45} Please you should pity him because according to Jesus' statement this Geoworldedu guy is suffering from depression and he needs to be consoled not judged!
Don't be surprised that such a person can commit suiside anytime because he doesn't seem to know the purpose of his existence!

Wow Maximus69, you are changing and getting worse.

Where God was holding you and being with you, He has left you alone.

Wow!

ggirl4real:
I just tire for religious mata for this country.

One thing I'm very sure about is that many people are practicing their current religious beliefs because of the religious backgrounds of their parents.

If they were born into other religions, they would most likely not belong where they are presently, so I don't always understand this claim of religious superiority.

In times past, you washed your clothes with your hands and moved from place to place with your feet

Then the washing machine and the car came was brought to you and today, you no longer do those former things.

So it is with the practice of Deference and Reverence to God. You are taught and raised in a way but you learn that there is a Better Way.

Like the washing machine and car you can choose to take it up. And like washing with thy hands and travelling with thy feet, you can choose to hold on to them too.

NeoWanZaeed:
Even in the so called bible.. Although its written by unknown authors.. Its there.. Blasphemy and apostacy is death..

Not really! And Certainly not like the Koran.

For the only Person or people who can carry out the Punishment of Blasphemy are Holy and Righteous People.

And this is even after due Prosecution, with a Provision for Correction, Penance and Restitution been offered the offender, which when he refuses, he may be Condemned to death if the Righteousness of the matter permits or he may be put away from the Company of men, that the Lord may deal with him directly, as the Lord shall choose.

That is the Huge Difference Between the Laws!

Xmuslim:
To the Christians that are coming here.

My response to you is simple. I can't agree to the concept of original sin. It negate fairness. How can I be responsible for the sin Adam(if he ever existed) committed. Thus I don't need any jesus to die for my sin (which I never committed).

God should have the power to forgive Adam without extending the sin to his children and then demand that his son (who is also a god) be killed before he would forgive humanity.

That theory can never sink in my brain

You are right for thinking this for No man has been Judged by God for the crimes or offence another person commited. No not once!

Even wicked men rarely do that and neither are they successful in doing that (in the normal course of events).

So also He Who is More Just than wicked men has never done so, NOT EVEN ONCE!

So you can drop that thinking!

You are not judged for the crimes or sins committed by another, You are Judged for your Own crimes and your own sins.

What man inherited from Adam is Death, for now man Dies and can Die, which was not the Plan of God Who made man to Live forever, but Adam spoilt that.

And Christ Came to Spoil Adam's Spoiling too, by Repairing the Spoiling for our benefit and bring us back to God so that the Plan of God Can be Restored once again, But Only for those who want that Restoration!

"Behold I lay before you, Life and Death. Choose Life, that ye may Live" (or choose death, that ye may Die!)

Xmuslim:
I'll leave atheist to answer you. For me, no religion has passed intellectual, scientific and moral test so far. And I have a feeling that religion is not needed since it doesn't benefit God. Moral values should be enough to please God (if he exist).

Can a laptop or a phone subject you to its intellect, science and moral tests?

Or shall a primary school student be able to give a valid test to undergraduate?

So also, no man is qualified to test his Greater and his Superior!

Xmuslim:
jesus is the way bla bla to the end of the verse. Every religion will bring his own claims. What makes you think yours is the correct one?

For a first, All (not some) that my God said will happen, at least, 90% of it has happened!

No Other has done that!

MOSHOOD1044:
I think morality should be a religion on its own!

Anything you do regularly and consistently is a religion.

Just as it is religious for men to be wicked and evil, so also can it be religious to do Rightness and Goodness!

DanTheGeek:
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Just as you know not where you come from and neither did you control it, you know not where you go to and neither do you control that too.

Who is like You Lord in all the earth? None!

Matchless Love and Beauty, Endless Worth!

Nothing in this world can satisfy! Nothing

'Cause Jesus You're the cup that won't run Dry

Lord Your Presence is Everything to me"

Your Presence is Heaven Darlene Zsech and Isreal Houghton in the Album Revealing Jesus by Hillsong.

geoworldedu:
What exactly is my offence? I posted topics about God or you think you are the only one entitled to him? God is my God and everybody's God so why take God's matter personal? God is Great.

Would you say that you do not know that you commit an offence?

I'll be happy to tell you that it is an Offence to Defame a Person.

It is wickedness to unjustly lower the estimation of a Person, expose them to hatred, contempt and ridicule.

Discredit His office and injure His worth.

All these done without valid justification!

These are just the Offences and Charges that l Could immediately raise up.

True but these are the days of profanities, blaspemies, scornings and mockings, exactly as God said.

And we know once God has Said, okpari, it is done!

God also said we should endure to the end, as He endured for us and He endured even now, for it is Him they ridicule.

Now, it is our turn for us to endure for Him and with Him and partake in His Sufferings.

At least geoworld, Xmuslim and others here are Proving to the world that the Word of the Lord, IS TRUE and Must Always Come to Pass and they shall Happen exactly as He has Said!

And that Somvayina and Otem are Liars also for that the Words of Christ Jesus, The Lord, is Being Fully Filled, Playing Out Exactly As He has Said!

If It was, that I was never sure and certain that Jesus Christ, is Truly The Son of God, and That All He has Said is True, When I See these Profanities, I see that i am become a witness to the Truth of the Lord, in that I see it with my eyes that all He Said, is happening even in my presence.

So, Be strong and take courage
Do not fear or be dismayed!

For the Lord will go before you
And His light will show the way!

Be strong and take courage
Do not fear or be dismayed

For the one who lives within you
Will be strong in you today

Why don' you give him all of your fears?
Why don't you let him wipe all of your tears?
He knows, He's been through pain before

And He knows all that you've been looking for
So, be strong and take courage...

Lyrics from Don Moen, Courage, From the Emmanuel Album!