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Also, if you understand the modern standard graphics pipeline model GPU's follow everything is going to be rasterized at some point.

So when I say vector-graphic I mean techniques similar to what happens in Adobe Flash, with points and filled shapes, tessellated then sent to hardware and rasterized.

But the raster standard u talk of, i'm guessing u mean jpg, png, or something else.

appcypher:
Yeah, UbiArt uses vector graphics, but raster-based images are still the staple in the industry. I will probably consider it in the future, but only when it is really needed.
You do know that street fighter spitesheet pack are low-res images. You can't have HDs of those without consuming megabytes.
Even in spritesheet-based games there could still be elements of skeletal animation like rotating, translating or scaling sprites.

And you said most games don't need tracking stuff or fancy programmability. I call that BS. 2D games are not the way they are before. Retro 2D games that look like Mario or Street Fighter are smaller niches now.
Developers definitely want great programmability over their animations. At least most I've seen do.

I know you like/prefer spritesheets, but you can't just simply close your eyes to the benefits of skeletal animation. From character's hand/gun following the mouse, to blending between animations (running and jumping), to using the same set of animations on different characters. The list is endless. Skeletal animation doesn't limit you to a set of spritesheet, you can have enough animations and your sprites at high resolution. You can't have both with spritesheets.
As for performance, skeletal animations indeed take more oomphs from the CPU, but spritesheets also have memory bottleneck due to the command queue delay between CPU and GPU. But caching is greatly improved with skeletal-based system because you have fewer sprites to deal with.

I for one, plan to create a game that needs a lot of procedural animation going on, that I will never be able to achieve with spritesheets (not unless I go back in time and change the meaning of spritesheet). The game requires smooth interpolation between different animations so that it looks like one continuous animation (think the combat-style Batman Arkham games). I've not seen stuffs like that in 2D games and that's one of the reason I had to create Crude. This combat style also requires the characters to react dynamically to each other's attack. Spritesheet is too rigid for this, I will have to draw out every possible animations, which is impossible.

Anyway, I'd love to see how many dudes prefer spritesheets to skeletal animations.

I prefer tech/tools based on problem and possible solution. If skeletal is the way for d job then i'll go with that.

I hear people talk about high-res vs low-res in 2d or 3d but thats all relative. Is a 512x512 lower than1024x1024 texture? It depends on how closely you intend to view it on screen.

Here is an image from PS2 street fighter, doesn't seem at all low-res.

Scholar01:
Games for PC and consoles typically require more than one or two persons, and to the best of my knowledge, there's not one game company in the bloody whole of Nigeria. I just wonder why the lack of interest in the 3d world in Nigeria. Perhaps some see it as for kids or something

Yes, the whole bloody Naija doesn't have one game dev company working on titles for the PC or Console space. But that is not because people here can't, PC doesnt sell as much anymore, and for Consoles that's a wild west of large budgets and big losses.

Besides, where is the money coming from?

appcypher:
Reverse is the case actually. Skeletal 2D animations are generally preferrable because of the flexibility it offers. All you need are the parts of the character. For spritesheets, you need more than just that. You need the image of the character for every frame of animation.
So here are some of the reasons why one would prefer Skeleton-based animations to spritesheet:

- Spritesheets take up a lot of memory than skeletal-based animations do. This is usually bad for mobile game dev where memory mgmt is vital.
- Spritesheets require you to draw each frame of animations. This is very tedious. What if you needed several dozens of animation.
- Spritesheet animations cannot be more than the fps they are drawn. If you drew 5 frames for a particular animation, then that is what you get. Skeletal animation can interpolate to whatever fps you chose. You can even do slow motion or fast forward with the same data.
- Spritesheets are not programmable. i.e. you cannot interpolate, mix or change the animations at runtime. For example, you can't make your characters head track the position of a mouse cursor.
- Skeletal based animations allow you to reuse the same animations for different characters. For spritesheets you'd have to redraw such characters animation.
- Because Spritesheet consume a lot of memory, you can't have high-res characters. But with skeletal based sprites you can have relatively high-res characters because you are reusing the same set of sprites every frame instead of new ones like spritesheet does.
- Sprite sheets are rigid, you cannot simply edit/change an animation you've already drawn, you have to redraw another. Skeletal-based allows you to edit your animations, show your client or team and go back and edit if needed. You cant simply do that with spritesheet, there would be a lot of wasted efforts drawing each frame by hand.
- For teams where there are several animators and where the animtor is different from the artist, skeltal animation will make the workflow easy cos animation data is different from sprite and there is only one set of sprites to share.
- And intros and cutscenes (e.g. translation of title bar, flipping page, etc. ) are better done with skeletal animations than spritesheet drawings.

There are many more reasons I can't list here, but you get the gist. I'm definitely not implying that skeletal animations are better in every way than spritesheets. There are definitely use cases for spritesheets, but most of the times skeletal-based animations are preferred.

Another thing. Vector graphics are not really used in game dev due to the way OpenGL works and I probably wont support it.
Raster images are good enough for most cases. And vector graphic rendering are performance killer, so definitely not what you will want to be using too much in your game. I may look into that later though. But it is definitely not on priority list.

There are several 2D skeletal products out there.
- Spine, industry standard, but expensive.
- Spriter, cheaps but lacks some features like FFD/mesh deformation
- Creatures, feature-rich but expensive and complicated.
- Dragon Bones, free but buggy and lacks proper documentation.

This is where mine comes in. It is called Crude and it is free and open-source. It will sure cover a lot of important features.

The development of Crude is inspired by UbiArt the engine used to develop Rayman Legends and Rayman Jungle.

Since your inspiration if from UbiSoft then I hope you know they used vector-graphics and alot of character parts, some general, some action specific. Yes, the programmability of skeletal over sprites is one thing and the memory budget another. But how much memory, and how much programmability?

A pack of sprite frames for one character in a fighting game like street fighter, with combos and power moves cos just a lil above 200KB.

And in most games you don't need all that tracking stuff and fancy programmability. Remember, you don't only deal with memory budget, there is processing and cache management to think about, where on mobile you typically have 65MB+ for you game and lower clocking CPU's.

Yes, 2d skeletal system will be useful where the situation allows, but only where it supersedes sprites in a 2d game.

More knowledge, less search applies to game dev too.

shakol91:
I don't see Bible as ordinary book.. It's more than that to me

The contents not the letters. So if I make a copy of the Bible and give it to you, has it now become mystical or something.

shakol91:
I have this old bible that I no longer use,it's very old and rough with permanent stains (there is no point of dashing it out). I've heard that it's not godly to throw bible inside bush or burn it. So I'm confused on what to do with the bible.... Pls what should I do to get it disposed.

Is eating it an option? Rhetoric. It's a book print.

appcypher:
Cool! One of the few.
I'm good with Unity and I'm currently working on a 2D skeletal animation software.
I like your character, is it spritesheet-based or skeleton-based.

Skeleton systems are a lot better for 3D models. If you insist you want a 2d skeleton system then you'll better prepare to use vector-graphics and a lot of different character parts. 2d skeleton isn't as efficient as 2d sprite systems.

Advice.

If righteousness is a gift, then grace is the reason you have that gift. YOU ARE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN CHRIST.

Rom 11:6 And if by Grace, then it is No Longer of Works; otherwise Grace is No Longer Grace. But if it is of Works, it is No Longer Grace; otherwise Work is No Longer Work.

PRINCEZUKO1:
The Grace Christ came to bring is the Power to completely live Above and Beyond the boundaries of Sin and Disobedience. To obey and live a holy life daily as your natural being....that is Grace.

Not arguing, but lets reason this. If Christ came to bring power to live above sin, then no one who died before Christ being revealed should be blamed of sin since they had no power to keep the law and not sin.

What Christ came to do is simple; Show you the Father and remind you of who you are. SONS OF GOD.

Tallesty1:
People actually don't seem to get what Christianity means, Christians are new creations (2 Corinthians 5:17). Christians demonstrate the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23), not the acts of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21). So it doesn't matter what you do in church, what society you belong to, or how many hours you spend in church daily, if Christianity cannot be seen in your day to day activities then you're simply not a Christian.



In Paul's voice "Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?" (Romans 6:1-2).

Can we please read on from:
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, "You shall not covet."Rom 7:8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead.Rom 7:9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death.Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.

Keep reading till you get to the end of Romans 16.

raphieMontella:
im lost here..
After a while..the weed would dry up and become brown..its no longer in connection with the soil to keep it ''green''

Good, away from the source it is dead. Man away from his source is also dead.

When the biblical Adam was told he will die when he eats of knowledge of good and evil, he did not die the physical bodily death, but the death of the mind.

Look at religion today, have you noticed it's all about good vs evil, right vs wrong?

raphieMontella:
i doubt so...#for ''every''
A lot of persons walkaway ''scot free''
e.g a runs girl may in the course of her business defraud a lot of men...
At some point in time ...she eventually gets married to a good financially sound nice guy(poisoned and bewitched her opponents on the man)..gives birth to loving kids...train them in church and she herself becomes religious..and at the end of her life...she dies peacefully

Pull a weed from the ground and place it on a table. Look at it, it's still green and healthy; or is it?

optimusmind:
Most "why" lead to truth, but the dogma in Christianity prohibits them from rational reasoning.
I appreciate your response it was open minded.
Good to know I'm not the only one asking questions...

I'll glad i'm able to reason with you. One thing about "truth" as we know it on matters we have "knocked on" is that it's all based on perspective.

Today we hear that gravity is no longer assumed a force, but an effect of something else, this idea I have know as not being exact and always took it as an effect for as long as I remember, but still yet truth isn't "fixed".

The problem with "general Christianity" isn't in the books, it's mostly in the people who carry it and say; Hear my own and nothing else.

You will find the answers.

Jozzy4:
Psalm 37: 9-11 is in your bible. read!

I like that you may have somehow convinced him on the illustration of the rich man and Abraham bosom.

But read also, Mathew 5:8 Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.

9: Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

Mat 5:22 "But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of "hell fire".

Now that definitely cannot be replaced with the location in Yerushalem called Gehenna can it?

Probably, the most closest thing to replace there where it says hellfire will be Judgement.

Yea...saw the same video some weeks back. I just concluded, whats the difference? People are bombed, stabbed, hung, shot e.t.c. I don't know if it's in Saudi Arabia but they definitely were arabs. LET GOD BE THE JUDGE.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



THIS IS HOW YOU HAVE LIVED YOUR LIFE, IS IT NOT?



You are thinking incorrectly.

Perceiving incorrectly.

The Mind can process one's entire lifetime in twenty minutes.

This Ability is ESSENTIAL to AfterLife Survival.

If one does not have it, one's Soul will be DESTROYED upon Death.

Only those who can IMMEDIATELY run through their entire lifetime in TOTAL RECALL when their BODY has died will be ALLOWED to create their SPIRIT ENERGY BODY, which their Mind, Memories, and Personality will live in in the AfterLife.

[See my Blog: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE?]

WITH TOTAL RECALL the concept of "SUMMARIZATION" becomes ludicrous.

Say you are TEN years old (just saying, of course!) and you can condense those ten years into TWENTY MINUTES.

That is to say: 73 HOURS per SECOND?

That is how far the envelope can be pushed- for a TEN-YEAR OLD.

Therefore, why would you need a "summary?"

What is wrong with your mind, that you cannot run through everything that you have seen me write, and yourself come up with a summary?

THE SYSTEM THAT HAS CHAINED YOU TO SIN HAS IMPAIRED YOUR MIND- DELIBERATELY- WITHOUT WHICH THEY COULD NOT BIND YOU TO SIN.

Still I ask again. IN SUMMARY YOU ARE SAYING WHAT?
Nothing is new here but they all do not fit into one whole.

You move from Egyptology, to Buddhism, to Christianity, and Judaism. Everyone can recall, we are structured that way, even a rat can recall.

I believe in few words. KEEP IT SIMPLE.

Drew0:
With power meditation you can empower yourself strengthen your child energy, work with witchcraft (powers of the mind) and magick you awaken your kundalini which is the last stah of Satanism.

What you can do is endless.
As a God.

I am asking what have you attained from this knowledge? Being gods isn't a new concept, neither is it against the Christian books. You limit yourself because you choose to limit knowledge.

@optimusmind

There are alot of "WHYs" in this existence of ours. Like why do I need to breath oxygen? You might say to live. Well, then a "dead" body pumped with a regular supply of oxygen is not dead.

Or why does fire need oxygen to burn? Well, I know blowing on a lit match in a certain way doesn't keep it burning.

Alot of WHYs.
Why does a God need blood to forgive sin? If God is loving Why no just sign a waver, why must blood flow?

Hmmmmn, How about we look at it differently. You dont need to accept this but, what if it isn't blood but death?

Why death? Why not death? What if I told you every action has an opposite reaction...well, you know that already as Newtons first law or Universal Karma.

The Whys and Why nots of the Universe isn't within our reach, we mostly take what we have and play it to our advantage.

What goes up, comes down. Do we now say it's changed cause a plane can stay in the air?

Lastly, like you I ask alot of Whys, which is healthy, we can ask it all our lives and get no answer. You receive whatever you are willing to hear.

@OAROLOYE.

I've been trying to understand in summary what you are trying to get at. You move from one ideology to another, please summarise.

One thing I agree with you on is alot of Christian folk somehow think that accepting that Yahsuah drank alcoholic brew is somehow a bad thing. Which is in error.

So help me to make clear on what you are driving at. Maybe, you will learn something too.

@Drew0 and @EyeHateGod(ironic name).

Assume nothing about me. One question, what has all these knowledge been used for?

I mean, What levels of power have you attained?

@Jozzy4.
I am not telling you to leave where you are, I am only showing you what I have seen.

No book is understood by verses....you have to read top to bottom.

Jozzy4:
Man wasnt formed Until Genesis 2:7 . and when he sinned God said YOU are dust . YOU are dust . YOU are dust. The YOU refer to the person called Adam . and that statement says he is dust.

Before 2 there is 1.
Gen 1:27 So God CREATED MAN in His own image; in the image of God He created him MAN; MALE and FEMALE He created THEM.

They were already created in His image which is Spirit, according to His likeness which is God. JESUS SAID: Is it not written that you are gods and all sons of the Most High. He also says; The Father seeks those who will worship Him in Spirit and in Truth.

He would have said the Father seeks you to serve Him for you are His dust.

The formation of dust man was process 2. He formed the dust(flesh), and put the breath(essence) of life(the words I speak to you are Spirit and Life).

When Adam fell, God said, MY SPIRIT WILL NOT REMAIN WITH YOU MUCH LONGER. Why did He say His Spirit? He made it so He owns it.

dueal:
@OAROLOYE
Thanks for plagiarizing from the net for tales on how Paul is a false teacher of the gospel of Yahoshuah.


Now because from this article has it claimed that Paul's words are lies and Peter wasn't converted(though that verse is speaking of his dwindling faith because of the troubles coming their way which the Christ showed them), I will remove the books from both men or their students.

I will be brief by only showing a few things;
The rich young man's meet with The Christ.

Mat 19:16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, "Good Teacher, WHAT GOOD THING shall I do that I may have ETERNAL LIFE?" Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. BUT IF YOU WANT TO ENTER INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS." Mat 19:18 He said to Him, "WHICH ONES?" Jesus said, " 'You shall not murder,' 'You shall not commit adultery,' 'You shall not steal,' 'You shall not bear false witness,' Mat 19:19 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' Mat 19:20 The young man said to Him, "ALL these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack? " Mat 19:21 Jesus said to him, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." Mat 19:22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

Mat 19:23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Mat 19:24 "And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the of God." Mat 19:25 When His disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, "WHO THEN CAN BE SAVED?" Mat 19:26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men this is IMPOSSIBLE, but with God all things are possible."

Points to note that what Paul was saying concerning Christ's salvation though disagreed with by James(brother of Yahosuah) are these;
1: Keep the commandments to gain eternal life.

2: Man claims he has done so up till that point.

3: Yahosuah says- it is hard for the rich to enter(even though the law has been kept).

4: Disciples ask; WHO THEN CAN BE SAVED. These people are obviously not of the rich class, probably have kept the Law and yet they never took that statement to mean poor ones who keep the Law.

Revaluation 7:4-15;
Verse 4: Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL were sealed.

Verse 9: Rev 7:9 After these things I looked, and behold, a GREAT MULTITUDE WHICH NO ONE COULD NUMBER, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,

Verse 14: Rev 7:14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know." So he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

Now you said Paul killed all the 12 and none was available to oppose his teaching, Well there was Peter, and John.

Also, because some disciples didn't approve of Paul because of his past deeds doesn't make his call false. They didn't approve of a man healing in the name Yahosuah because he wasn't part of the group. They didn't approve of the children coming around them. They were men.

Yes the teachers of the Law(Pharisees) made addition for rites and rituals, but they also took hold of the Law and Judgment, they sure didn't keep it. But hear this;
Joh 5:45 "Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you--Moses, IN WHOM YOU TRUST. Joh 5:46 "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. Joh 5:47 "But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"

I end with this; if Paul was lying about grace for salvation, and you say his logic was used to interpret the word, well James who based it on works also used logic to interpret the word.

In case you missed this

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Is that how you judge?

If somebody sees something wrong, and a Muslim sees something wrong, that somebody must be a Muslim too- because only Muslims have eyes?

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY?

You couldn't even be bothered to specify your accusation?

What is it that makes you so arrogant?

No arrogance in what I said, neither did I make any confirmation to my observation. Simple statement. Muslims who seek to tarnish what we have as records use the tactics you are using.

1: Paul is false.
2: Yahosuah doesn't require worship.
3: Not much can be trusted in the documentation of the Bible.

Life teaches, if it walks, talks, smells, and jumps like a rat, it most likely is a rat.

Jozzy4:
Hear the truth , Gen 3:19, Ecc 9:5,10

The creation of Man(Adam) was performed in two stages;

First by Spirit: Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in OUR IMAGE(spirit), according to Our LIKENESS(sons of God); let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

Second by formation of Flesh: Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the BREATH OF LIFE(Spirit into Flesh); and man became a LIVING BEING(creeping thing).

Spirit first, that is why there is a reconciliation to the maker of Spirit. Else flesh is dust and in the ground is reconciled to the ground.

Imagine it was a flaming fire and those who died at the flood where condemned, then why will Jesus go preaching to them in Spirit after His death at the cross?

They were all lost spirits, in the places where there was no LIGHT OF GOD. And the Light came into their mist, and saved those who followed Christ(in spirit) towards to Light of God.

Did they work for it? No! They only believed. Rev 7:9-13

Like I said before, I am neither with "Us" or "JW". The Lazarus and richman is an illustration.

Now, concerning the Spirit and Body, we should know that Man is Spirit first, living in a body that has a mind.
So when the body passes, the main essence which is the Spirit moves on.

Concerning where the Spirit goes, read the Ethiopian book of Enoch(same Enoch that walked with God an never saw death). Hell is anyplace in the realms that is outside the Light of God. Not just a flaming fire. And the body doesn't exist there. The Spirit doesn't need water or food(another nail on the illustration), what the Spirit needs is the Light of the Creator.

Your dreams are an extension of your thought process. If you think sex, you get sex. If you think flight you fly.

When you wake and make a negative connection to what happened in your sleep, you get negative events happen around you. Faith at work.

I bet you also do not understand the harlot of Revelations, or the gospel of the Kingdom of God.

oneolajire:
Why are u fighting if it were a mere illustration to u. so Jesus can use an illustration of a dead man talking and feeling? For fun? Remember the rich man begged a dead man should be resurrected to preach to preach to his family members, same way Charles Taze is begging that JWs reject his doctrine and accept God' truth we preach

Fighting? Your ignorance is deep. So, because the tale was talking on the dead and calling for one to be raised to preach makes different from an illustration?

Read: Mat 22:23-33
Mat 22:31 "But CONCERNING THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, Mat 22:32 'I AM THE GOD of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? GOD IS NOT the God of the dead, but of the living." Mat 22:33 And when the multitudes heard this, they were astonished at His teaching.

Resurrection of the dead(A day set aside for the dead to be raised, as believed of rapture doctrine) is a delusion from old Pharisee doctrine of the Jews. Jesus was using their belief to illustrate how not giving care to the poor is evil.

Learn your scripture.

There was a specific reason why he was wearing the clothes: It turned out that he has just become a progenitor of the royal Malaysia, "not a Muslim!" JACKIE CHAN'S RELIGION: Chan is a Chinese Buddhist, but does not talk about his faith, calling into question his level of devotion.

oneolajire:
The same way the rich man was lamenting but his family members couldn't hear him.

So now you are Jesus or you don't understand an illustration. From whispering to the dead to being Jesus. You need deliverance or a big whooping.