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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 3:48pm On Oct 12, 2022
BlueMann:
Some great news: James' knee injury isn't serious, according to Jacob Steinberg
Yea with his body language i could tell it might not be as serious. Altho he probably won't be in our weekend squad. Might be fit next weekend
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 7:08am On Oct 12, 2022
kingBolton:
Back to back to back player of the season loading!
Can a Bible believing Christian kindly tell us Mason Mount stats now?
Chelsea's best player this season so far has been Reece James. And he's been consistent at it.
Mount who's been hiding for months is now suddenly player of the season cos he had 2 good games out of over 15 matches played.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 11:13pm On Oct 11, 2022
DumaEmpire:
I love it when former players or managers play against Chelsea with the mindset of trying to get a revenge

It always end sour for them grin
Tomori had to learn the hard way
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 10:28pm On Oct 11, 2022
Ibime:
They were just managing the game out with no stress, allowing Jogginghoe to rack passes against non existent opposition for his fanboys to wãnk.over. TBH, I like this kind of game management, it's what you do when opponent is down to 10 men and you have a 2 goal advantage
This is too much grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 10:16pm On Oct 11, 2022
hensben:
What's disappointing there.
With the way the first half ended. Definitely i expected more proximity attacks in the second half

Not spending minutes watching some boring nd meaningless passes for almost the entire half
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 10:10pm On Oct 11, 2022
Segedinho:
second half was to reduce their strength by winning d midfield hence d introduction of midfielders and this was successfully executed .


.kudos
Milan were on their knees already in the first half. No single strength left.

We should be capitalizing on that and getting some more goals in the second half to boast our confidence.

Instead we turned it into a pass section. Attacked less. Just throwing useless passes up nd down.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 10:07pm On Oct 11, 2022
This second half was a huge disappointment and boring half to watch.

Atleast we don almost qualify sha
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 9:01pm On Oct 11, 2022
donstan18:
Kazuki Ito
KingAzubuike:
Kazuki ito
Gbam
emmyluizzz:
that ref was from china...his name is xang Kim lee
them say na Kazuki Ito but all join.

This ref is super harsh...

After all the motivational speech Tomori made just some hours before the match... This kind tins dey cause depression for players
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 8:38pm On Oct 11, 2022
This Ref reminds of Playstation 2 (Ps2) days.

There's always a particular asian ref who always cards like this Ref while playing pes grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 8:21pm On Oct 11, 2022
Unlimited22:
What's wrong with this réf ?
He staked on the game grin

Red card to Tomori. He was disguising himself to be for team Milan
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 6:03pm On Oct 11, 2022
forgiveness:
Shiit happens. This season might be worst but you can't judge by this season only. Just 3 seasons ago, he was fit throughout the season. I mean the season we won the UEFA champions league.
That was his prime years. Kante right now is at the twilight of his career. Hence why he's insisting on a 4 year deal just for the basics of having some good form of leverage(like a retirement plan, Pension)
Hence why the club aren't dancing to his tone
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 5:57pm On Oct 11, 2022
forgiveness:
Respond to the context of the bolded. There was no such policy in pre Abramovich era. Eod.
Hahaha. You got nothing to say man.

Man came hitting up on me like he got alot to say and lecture on football politics. Turns out he's got nothing grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 5:50pm On Oct 11, 2022
forgiveness:
You can keep deceiving yourself. There was no such policy in pre Abramovich era but in post Abramovich.

The point is, there are exceptions. Take it or leave it.
i still wonder if maybe what i type is too difficult to understand or do you read it with a translator cos what's all this Shalaye about.

You said there are exceptions but can't show me anywhere in Chelsea's history where a player on his 30s was given a contract of 4 years and above. cheesy
Exceptions indeed

Since you can't tell me which over 30s player over the years has been given a 4 and above years contract at Chelsea. I have another assignment for you. A simpler one

Just show me where i ever said it was Chelsea's policy in the pre Abramovich era or not

This simple sentence is why you're busy hopping up nd down since morning.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 5:28pm On Oct 11, 2022
Havertz10:
haaland isn’t better than mbappe
True. But this season Haaland has had a better season so far.

But talent wise. Haaland isn't better than Mbappe in anyway
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 5:17pm On Oct 11, 2022
Trevor012:
He is the poster boy of Psg and France. If Psg wins the champions league he is winning the Balon dor. Neymar and most especially Pessi are not boycotting him in that regard. But you are right that Haaland scoring and getting all the media attention playing in the best league in the world instead of a farmers league in France might be eating him up.
A very very big If cheesy i feel he should have left last summer instead of sitting for the cash.

Now he suddenly wants to leave... Let's watch nd see how it goes
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 4:23pm On Oct 11, 2022
youngZee23:
Don't forget Boehly want statement signing
Normals. Anything is possible tho. But getting Mbappe and paying him almost a million pound every week won't sit well with most of our toxic players... Them fit begin reject contract anyhow grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 4:21pm On Oct 11, 2022
BlueAngel444:
lol you are over estimating Perez's ability to let go grin, reason I believe reports saying Madrid are not interested because even if Perez does sign him, then Mbappe has a mountain to please Madrid fans, only if PSG take Hazard and 100m grin

I feel if Boehly is lucky enough to convince that proud being to play for Chelsea, he may join Chelsea and play with Nkunku cheesy
You get point cheesy but i wonder how his wage structure would be. Boehly go gree close eye pay 1M a week wage? Plus PSG go gree sell ham?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 3:39pm On Oct 11, 2022
BlueAngel444:
it's not like he can join a better team than PSG, if Madrid refuse to sign him.

Well outside possibility is Bayern, they are rich misers so may not happen
Bayern probably wouldn't want him.

Only Madrid is in the mix to afford him and his excesses and attitude
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 3:37pm On Oct 11, 2022
forgiveness:
Pure undiluted facts. 14 games at stretch is the highest Kante has ever missed in his football career in a season, and it's this season.
that's also going to be extended cos obviously he might not play a game till earliest November.
Emphasis on the bolded. Meaning this season is even worst than his previous cases where ge just misses about a month plus due to injuries... Now it's heading to missing over 3 months.
Same person who was battling injuries before and during preseason as well

And that's who is clamouring for a 4 year deal. Lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 3:30pm On Oct 11, 2022
BlueAngel444:
this season? Abeg we don play reach 14 matches already shocked
grin grin

Na google research merchant. Project researcher.

Kante that has been out for almost 2 good months now.

He dey google research numbers to show us. As if we don't watch the matches and follow up the team ourselves
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 3:23pm On Oct 11, 2022
Kilishihunter:
Na the matter wey dem dey try settle for Paris
Seems he's tired of neymar and messi or maybe disturbed by haaland's hot streak leaving him in the dust statwise, No one knows
grin grin Haaland definitely is mile ahead of him this season.

Maybe he don reason ham say Neymar nd Messi wan boycott him progress from winning Balon D'or hence all sudden change

He should have thought of this before signing the deal he did last summer
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 3:06pm On Oct 11, 2022
How true is this?..

Them say Mbappe wan join Madrid suddenly

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 3:05pm On Oct 11, 2022
forgiveness:
Who wrote the bolded? It's still haunting you. cheesy

No correlation. Stop
Over the years Chelsea "Hardly" gives players more than a year contract.

Is it the English that's the problem for you? You should have said so. "Hardly" in that context means they don't give players more than a year contract that easily. I still went ahead to say Kante getting upto 3 years wasn't bad at all. But Kante is asking for a 4 years deal.

You said Vialli nd Zola were exceptions but how is their contract compared to the 4 years Kante is asking of more than 300k a week?

I still asked you to point out anywhere Chelsea has ever given a player in his 30s a 4 years and above contract. Something you still haven't and can't answer. Hence all this panelbeater job you have been doing here.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 2:11pm On Oct 11, 2022
forgiveness:
There's nothing like 1 year policy for 30 years and above player pre Abramovich era. That's a fat lie or simply being ignorant.

There's nothing like 1 year policy for 30 years and above for ONLY EXISTING PLAYERS in Abramovich era. The policy is for either existing or new players. Stop this already. grin

Continuously, you have demonstrated your ignorance on this subject.

Futile attempt to argue on the subject matter you totally have zero knowledge about pre Abramovich era. Rest. grin

Summarily, there are exemption during Abramovich era. Even this era don't mind. grin
I wait to see where i said the policy was restricted to "Only" existing players. All this your "Fire on the Mountain" movement around the topic of discussion is just too funny

I said show me where in the entire history of Chelsea both during the Pre-Abramovich era and Post-Abramovich era in which a player in his 30s was ever given a contract of over 4 years and above since you clearly pointed using Zola and Vialli as exemptions to getting such contracts which was a big fat bang of lies

You're coming here to give me an iberiberistic and efulefulistic answer that can be likened to the lyrics belowgrin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 10:54am On Oct 11, 2022
DumaEmpire:
I wait for you to bring up a deal of 4 years and above given to a player in his 30s at Chelsea as an already existing player dating as far back as pre-Abramovich era.
Since you like digging Archives i still await your response to this @Forgiveness
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 10:47am On Oct 11, 2022
forgiveness:
There's nothing like existing player policy. The policy is for any player that is more than 30 years. And it's a one year contract. Nothing like 2 years. grin

Stop trying to play smart.

But there's an exception. The reason Chelsea gave few above 30 more than 1 year. cheesy

Zola was 3½ years. grin So, stop trying to deceive the gullible.


Chelsea last night completed the pounds 4.5m signing of Gianfranco Zola from the Serie A side Parma. The Italian international attacking midfielder will arrive in London next week, and the Stamford Bridge club have not denied reports that he has been offered wages of about pounds 25,000 per week as part his three-and-a-half-year deal.
Oh. I see you had to do your homework by googling about the Zola deal for your comeback cheesy cheesy wink

Even went as far as giving a good and detailed summary of how much he was given. Lol some of us don't have to go into google archives to dig out things. Hence why i neglected adding the half into the 3 grin But kudos on your articulated project research.

Still on still 3 nd half years for a new signing who was younger than Kante isn't still equivalent to 31 year old injury prone player player asking for a 4 year deal.

The amazing thing is you dwelling on Zola deal of over 26 years ago just to back Kante but still yet it doesn't adequately fit your narrative.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 9:27am On Oct 11, 2022
forgiveness:
No longer 1 year contract for players above 30 na 2 years contract. cheesy

Those aforementioned players were not even Chelsea's legend as at the time they were bought oooo. But Kante who is a Legend on his own right should not be offered.

Abeg, quit already.
Kante has been offered a good 3 years deal. Not one, not 2 but 3 good years of good pay.

Why is he insisting on 4 years.

Even Frank Lampard, Drogba, Cech nd Terry never had upto 4 years contract deals in their 30s.

And like i pointed. Zola nd Vialli were signed on the basis of being new players in the club and not already existing players. Koulibaly is over 31 with a 4 year deal strictly as a new player.

Kante is an existing player. I wait for you to bring up a deal of 4 years and above given to a player in his 30s at Chelsea as an already existing player dating as far back as pre-Abramovich era.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 9:22am On Oct 11, 2022
Unlimited22:
Lmao this dog pic is so funny


Like.. You be 419, youbn't you? grin
grin grin grin

I dey watch to wait for his reply.

He's been here a minute and cos he sees an unusual moniker like mine he feels he's big enough to school me on football politics. Cos he feels i started supporting Chelsea yesterday and started watching football a day before yesterday. Lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 8:58am On Oct 11, 2022
forgiveness:
How old were they?
Zola was 30(3 years deal), Vialli was 32.(2 years deal) Then Kante is 31(asking for 4 years deal)

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 8:45am On Oct 11, 2022
forgiveness:
Quit the epistle and read your own statement in the bolded. Chelsea hardly gives.....simply means there are exceptions.

Zola and Vialli are the examples of the exceptions.

Do you understand?
Lol. Zola was signed on about a 3 year deal in 96(or even less can't really recall but i definitely know it wasn't more than a 3 year deal). Vialli was signed on a 2 year deal nd left the club in 99(as a manager).
None of them were offered a deal worth more than 3 years and they were new players signed into the club for that matter and not already existing players. So how's that an exemption. Lol

Its Just like Silva getting signed in 2020 and still playing at 38 years old. Probably his contract would be extended. And then after 25 years someone starts using him as a reference cos he checked on google and saw him playing for Chelsea at such an age for some amount of years or time. Not knowing it was based on contract extension.

Back to my point as you pointed out Chelsea "Hardly" gives players more than a year or 2 years contract to players. Kante an existing player who's 31 getting up to 3 years is even fairer than Zola nd Vialli you mentioned who were new players signed on 3 nd 2 contract deals respectively.
The real exception should be Koulibaly as he's the first player getting 4years in a very long time as a Chelsea player who's in his 30s. However he's fit enough to play and not romancing injuries every now and then.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m): 6:33am On Oct 11, 2022
I love it when former players or managers play against Chelsea with the mindset of trying to get a revenge

It always end sour for them grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DumaEmpire(m):
forgiveness:
Abramovich era. Do you know Zola's age when he was bought and the age he left Chelsea?

What about Vialli?

You don't know anything.
You shouldn't have started from Zola or Vialli. You should have gone as far back as the 1970s when we had people like Osgood nd Webb winning the FAcup against Leeds.
Infact go as far back as the 1950s when we won our first League title. You also forgot to mention Gullit, afterall he was the one who got those 2 names you mentioned into the club

Since this is now a history class. This is quite a pathetic reply. If you had nothing reasonable to reply you could have ignored instead of saying something as dumb as this.

These things aren't hard to fact check or understand. Over the past 20 years Chelsea has organized a business in a way whereby Players around their 30s are hardly offered more than a year contract. 2 at the very best. No matter who that player is and if he doesn't accept he's free to leave. Kante is amongst our top 2 highest earners im the club. Kante has been battling injuries for over 3 seasons now. The club offering a three years contract is very much fair to Kante whose absence due to injuries are even increasing... If he does well the contract can always be extended just like Tsilva who joined the club under a short contract which got extended
Kante has been out since August after about 2 matches and currently might be out throughout Oct too. Yes he's best at what he does but he's over 30s now. His body can't keep up with those workloads hence the injuries

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