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martinosi:
OH GIRL U NO GET LEVER TO APPROACH your PAPA!!!

Stop all this your foolish Ajebota fantasies and Wake up
from your dream world!!!

i am sorry to burst ur bubbles martinosi, serious, its not my thread, neither am i the poster and i will hate to make ds a personal issue, but i will like to correct u on ds ground, i talk to my father and we have discussed ds particular issue as stated by the topic of this thread and he still feeds us and pay my school fees. its about knowing ur ryt and being wise hw u present ur grievances and i am no ajebo, jst a regular gal from an average home.

so u re saying when i sleep over at a male friend's place then i have done smtin crasy like actually sleep wt him, ve sex and tell 'my boyfriend' whom i knw is very serious abt our relationship dt i ws sleeping wt sm other guy dt is yet to have direction for hs life(well, maybe sm direction, but nt yet settled down)?no, i don't think i ll be doing dt!

the only reason why she told her boyfrnd ws because there was notin to it than jst wat she zd, she went to get sm air, we shld stop reading meaning into things especially where there is none. i knw its difficult accepting it, jst discuss it wt her and tell her u re nt comfortable wt it rather than suspecting her of misconduct which she myt be innocent of, i rest my case

from what i ve read from ds posts i can see alot of pple have not been thru ds experience or pretend it does nt affect them, u need to be throught it to relate wt what she is saying. its nt abt him taking care or nt taking care of them, or her mum knowing abt it or nt, she is just tryin to put her feelings into words, for me, it comes down to d reality and the hurt that the man u ve always seen as a role model, held in high esteem and always proud to relate wt as ur father is not more than, (will hate to use any word cos it hurt jst thinking about it). i lived in denial of the fact wen i knew about mine, refused discussing it wt my siblings (eventhough i hrd it from them wen they were discussing it unknown to them) and over tym i grew up and watched tins unfold and it ws reality dt its for real and not lies, i prayed, we prayed and we re still praying but its still there. u want to hate, u hate and u stop hating, its still dr, u talk abt it, still talk abt it, and hate to talk abt it but its still dr, u confront the lady(s), u hate doing it, but its still there, u talk to ur dad, u stop talking abt it to him, its still there, u knw what i look forward to nw? me getting over it even wen it stops cos i dn't even knw if i can stop living thru it and stop seeing him the way i c him nw, i always wish i never knew or it never happened. i jst live my life knw and pray for the very best in the family.
jst look up to God has ur anchor, forget abt trying to put things ryt by dealing wt him, it myt nt wrk, i ve stopped crying abt mine but he still gives money for upkeep, cos we told mumsie, no money no food or anytin, so he drops d money and we do our duties, and prayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

i will if i have gotten over the person and the spouse is nt a close frnd or sm1 i knw cos i like weddings another reason is if i am in a meaningful relationship too, so, dts jst it

i ve my siblings on fb friends list but not my parents, but i still put everytin on fb not minding if my siblings see them cos i belief its me doing my tin and its nobody's biz

i jst gt another oneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee +881835211091

this guys are crasyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, infact thunder fire them!

jcross22:
well thanks so much for sharing this information, i know i can't be victim b,cos if do not store you number on my phone , you number will not be allow on my line.but we need to becareful

u mean u don't ve frnds dt call from call centres, hehehehe, gbgbo bigz boys

thank you all for responding on ds post, SOLD!!!!!!

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does a third fone explicitly mean its infidelity? has any of u heard of official cell fones, CUGs used for internal calls within an organisation, usually big org. like banks, they are use by staff to communicate wt each other at a very reduced rate. so, if ur wife has one of those, i don't think she needs it on while she is away from the office and i won't be surprised if it ws in her handbag or overnight carrier bag u saw it because she does not need the disturbance of official calls away from the office especially wen she is at home wt her husband.

my dear poster, i will say u are catching empty air and it will be a pity if u wreck ur home wt mere jealousy and lack of trust on ur part. i don't think she would ve married u if she wants some other man. so think about it before making some stupid mistake

i gt your msg. its okay. but where is the person @?

i have sent the mail.

@slap1. tnx for ur response, but i am located in lagos, or are u here ryt now?

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Tudór:
WHERE IS TONYE-T To COME AND DEFEND HIS RUBBISH LIES?

funny how his FRAUD was exposed and he started attacking pastor's personality. . .

Tonye-t WHERE ARE YOU? You don run?

Tudor, are u here to contribute to the discussion or jst interested in the reply Pastor has to give?

Anyways, from all i ve read in this forum, i will suggest we all do according to our personal convictions, if u are comfortable with tithing, go ahead and tithe, if u are not, don't, until u receive it in your spirit to cos if u give tithes without being convinced or even know the reason y u do it, then i must say u are wasting that income atlst the blessing attached to it (it will just be like a man left in a darkroom and does not knw that he is to look for the door to be free).

so lets do as we think best rather than draggin this topic endlessly cos i really don't see a big deal in the topic!!!

this is my last say in this thread, if u bother to reply me, u will definitely not get a reply cos i am all done here, tkia guys and hope u find the end to ds thread real soonnnnnnnnnnn

ds is your reply, i knw and belief wat i knw and i dnt think i ve to proof or be proved wrong by u guys to hold fast to my faith here. Tom Brown's msg is jst to help pass d msg across cos it reads wats on my mind and i put my opinion in brown at the end if u take your tym to read properly

ogajim, what about it?

wish i cld read thru ds thread, but i got the gist from page 1, God help us all, maybe we shld jst read our bibles and practice its simple words rather than trying to coin some of our own

Tithing began before the law was introduced. The Law simply regulated the tithe. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek, 400 years before the time of Moses and the Law, and according to Romans 4:12 we are to walk in the footsteps of the faith of Abraham. If tithing was good for him, it should be good for us, too.

We give tithes like Abraham gave them—not by the Law but by faith. And beside that, if the people of God paid ten percent before the Law, and ten percent under the Law, shouldn't we, who live by grace, be doing any less when we have a better covenant (Heb 7:22).There is a passage in Hebrews, which deals with this issue directly. It is Hebrews 7:8:

In the one case, the tenth is collected by men who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.

Melchizedek received Abraham’s tithe. The Hebrew writer shows that Melchizedek is a prefigure of Christ. We can conclude that just as Abraham gave a tithe to Melchizedek we give a tithe to Christ who is declared to be living.

Some people think this is a new issue. It is as old as the second century when more and more Gentiles were being converted. The early Jewish believers had no problem with tithing since they had done it under the Law and gave it to the priests. They simply gave their tithe to the elders of the church and did by love. However, as the church became less Jewish this issue came up to the church fathers. They answered the question of tithing with Matthew 23:23:

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
Notice Jesus said, "You should have practiced the latter (justice, mercy and faithfulness), without neglecting the former (tithing)." The fathers argued, and rightful so, that Jesus word ends the discussion. Since Jesus said not to neglect the former—being tithing—then no believer should neglect tithing. I wholeheartedly agree!
Some argue that Jesus words are not applicable to us today, because Jesus was under the Law and spoke to those under the Law. Their theory goes something like this: Jesus was giving an instruction to the Jews so His words are not binding to us.

The problem with this interpretation is that these teachers are bringing Christ down to the level of a Jewish prophet or Teacher of the Law. Jesus is the Word of God made flesh, so this means every word that comes out of His mouth is eternal. He cannot say anything without it being “spiritual law” and everlasting. Jesus emphasizes this point by saying, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but my words will never pass away” (Matt 24:35). These supposed Bible teachers are making the words of Jesus pass away—obsolete and out of date. Besides, these same teachers pick and choose which teachings of Christ in the gospels they believe is applicable to us. I notice that even these teachers agree that most of Christ’ teachings are for us; however, because they are predisposed against tithing, they have had to come up with an excuse for not obeying the clear word of Christ in Mathew 23:23.
As a believer, you have to show who your Lord is! Is it the teachers who tell you tithing is not New Testament and who tell you that Jesus word on the subject is out of date; or is it Jesus who clearly told us not to neglect tithing? No modern teacher has the right to tell you to disobey Jesus instruction on tithing. Period!
Even if the only passages in the New Testament was Jesus word, then that would be sufficient, however, I want to present other New Testament passages on the subject. Let’s look at Paul’s teaching on giving.

Paul also uses the pattern of tithing under the law in 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 and says,  

Don't you know that those who work in the temple get their food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar? In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.

Paul argues that just as the priests got their food from the tithes of the people, so the preachers should live the same way. This passage clearly shows the mentality of the apostle and his understanding of carrying over the concept of tithing into the church. The passage often used to contradict this is 2 Corinthians 9:7:

Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

The argument goes something like this: "Each believer has a right to decide for himself what to give and should not be told what percentage he should contribute."

The problem with this argument is that the above passage is not dealing with giving to support the church, but rather giving to the poor. Under the Law, giving to the poor was a freewill offering. The Law commanded freewill offerings as well as tithes:

But you are to seek the place the LORD your God will choose from among all your tribes to put his Name there for his dwelling. To that place you must go; there bring your burnt offerings and sacrifices, your tithes and special gifts, what you have vowed to give and your freewill offerings, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks. (Deut 12:5-6)

It is quite inconsistent for people to appeal to freewill offerings yet claim that tithing has been abolished. Both tithing and freewill offerings were incorporated in the Law as the above passage shows, but they preceded the Law, thus they both should be practiced. The burden of proof is placed on those who teach that tithing has been abolished. If so, where in the New Testament does it clearly say that tithing has been abolished?  

One last thing, notice the resemblance of the language Paul uses in the first passage in Galatians and compare it with the Old Testament passage about tithing:
Anyone who receives instruction in the word must share all good things with his instructor. (Gal 6:6)

And you and the Levites and the aliens among you shall rejoice in all the good things the LORD your God has given to you and your household. When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the alien, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied. (Deut 26:11-12)

Galatians 6 is dealing with giving to the teacher of the gospel and he uses the same language about the Levites receiving the tithe of the people and he calls it "all good things." This is pretty good internal evidence that the early church tithed to the ministers of the gospel, although, I admit it is not explicit evidence.  

, TOM BROWN ministries

I belief very much in tithing whether mandated or free-willed, it is the word of God and it says it is the same yesteday, today and forever. so, whatever ur point maybe, supporting either the new testament or old, it is the word of God and it remains the same

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coatsms,
come down to the place i text to u.

hi konfessor,

tnx for showing interest, maybe u give me a call.

i gt ur msg.
but i don't think its bad @ 40k.
tnx

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