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IJOBA2:
URHOBO

perfect

Rossikki:
You do not have a right to any referendum. Why hasn't the US allowed a referendum there? It has over 30 secessionist groups. Google it! If every country with secessionist groups calls a referendum, no country would exist on this earth.

And if you DID want a referendum, you get your senators to TABLE A MOTION for it at the National Assembly. Not getting riffraff like Kanu to be insulting the country and terrorising people. Your problem is that your movement is led by illiterates who do not understand or appreciate democratic principles and processes. And if you did get your new country, they would destroy in under 5 years because of their primitive, arbitrary approach to legality.

simplycarro
is that you?

Shroud:
Have you done a referendum if itsekiri and Isoko would want a country with you people.

Isn't it ironic that you're doing the same thing you accused IPOB ( bunch of noise makers) of doing?

You have always been a hypocritical tribal bigot anyway.

one of my Girlfriend from ISoko by the name Ufoma Egaga has never agreed that she is an Urhobo

fratermathy:
Okay.
I guess you also saw where he said that Urhobos occupy Warri South?
Carry on!

listen to what another warripekin has to say below

godswilld10:
Its too late for all dat,we the itsekiris won't allow dat

fratermathy:
And has the National domination by Hausa-Fulani people been any better?

I do agree with you that every state should be constituted by those of same ethnicities. However, the Urhobos, Ijaws and Itsekiris have been living together for ages now and Urhobos have not dominated the others. In fact, quite the contrary, Urhobo is dominated by others, mostly the Itsekiri, who claim to own the entire Warri river region.

shifting goal post.
Mr attachés
warripekin point is simple.
"You urhobo should stop lumping warri south (the itshekiri) to urhobo in order to dominate them & grab their land(warri)

lolz this people are not yet tired of telling our own story for us. when we have our own mouth & know our history

omenka:
Seun, mynd44, first off, J didn't mention any tribe or persons here. Ipob is NOT AN ETHNIC GROUP, a tribe or name of a person, so I'd suggest rule 2 is enforced here for this poster referring to me as above.

Seun
mynd44
indirect insult on any group or ethnic group should not be condoned here.
referring people as pigs
do something about this.

omenka:
Afam, like I'd always remind you, you have no right whatsoever to comment on issues as they relate to the Yorubas, especially Tinubu.

Your past, as seen below, robbed you of that right.

this
doesn't sell anymore.
it never sold anyway

Afam4eva:
I think it's safe to say that even Tinubu knows that this government has failed but doesn't want to appear to be fighting the government since they belong to the same political party.

exactly

BALLOSKI:
seun knows that is not an attack on the entire igbo, but a few miscreants.

see how much tym u have for miscreants

Biafra: Don’t condemn IPOB – Tinubu tells Nigerians
Published on September 24, 2017
By Chijioke Jannah

National Leader of the All Progressives Congress (APC) and former governor of Lagos State, Bola Tinubu, has said Nigerians should not condemn but listen and understand the agitations by the Indigenous People of Biafra (IPOB).
He said this while delivering the Keynote speech at the 2017 Annual Dinner of the King’s College Old Boys’ Association (KCOBA) at King’s College, Lagos.
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The APC leader, who said the cry for separation had gained traction among average people due to the chronic failure of government to meet basic aspirations, however, warned against any attempt to split the country.
Tinubu noted that gargantuan challenges were facing the country but explained that they were not enough to call for the dismantling of the federation at a time some parts of the world were taking advantage of integration.
He said: “It is a rather curious lapse that a nation with such diversity as ours has not taken the time to give our legal marriage its proper functional underpinning. In other words, we all lined up to call ourselves Nigerian without gathering to discuss what it meant.
“Thus, we inhabit a nation that has not sufficiently defined its governance. We may be defined by political borders and boundaries but we have not glued ourselves to collective purpose and vision. Too many of us are born in Nigeria but not of it.
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“Thus, our society is not a collective enterprise as important to each of us as our own personal endeavor. It is but a platform, an arena, to claim whatever one can by whatever means available. In too many ways we resemble a wrestling match instead of the nation we were meant to become.
“Thus, we argue over matters that long ago should have been settled. The longer such fundamental questions fester, the more extreme become the proposed answers.
“Thus, we have people clamoring for secession in one part of the country and the murmur of such a course grows stronger in other sections.
“These other areas resent that some have advocated secession. Blame and recrimination become the political currency. Statesmanship falls in short supply. The dominant urge is to confront instead of reconcile.
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“It would be wrong to mistake this for a tempest in a teapot. If not careful, we may be tossed about like a teapot in a tempest.
“We must listen to what is being said so that we can determine what is really meant.
“Let us be frank. Many who cry separation do so because their personal ambitions will be better served by such a thing. They believe they will have greater chance at political power under a different arrangement. Yet the cry for separation has gained traction among average people; this is due to the chronic failure of government to meet basic aspirations.
“If over the years, government had delivered on the promise of growth, prosperity, and justice, those calling for such extreme remedies would be but a small fringe of little consequence.
“Our task is not to condemn but to listen and understand. I care not at all for this proposed solution. But I dare not discount the concerns and problems that have led many people into advocating such a thing.
“Here, I want to plainly state my position. I am a firm believer in Nigeria. I believe this land will become a great nation and a leader among other African nations. We can resolve our dysfunctions in a manner that will make this nation rise as a standard of decency, justice and prosperity for all Nigerians.
“So many excellent people have devoted themselves, even given their very lives, to give life to this nation. I dare not cast aside their hardy and brave work as if it were nothing. Many things we now enjoy and see as good are due to these people. We have benefited from their labor and sacrifice.
“Being more pragmatic, separating the nation into small pieces resolves nothing and creates additional problems. The world marches toward integration. Europe, America, Asia seek trade and commercial pacts that will make them more integrated markets. Notwithstanding Brexit, the EU grows more integrated in the functions of governance by the day. Thus, while nations more powerful and developed than us seek to pool their wealth and might, some of us seek to whittle this nation into smaller pieces.
“Such a thing would make us more vulnerable to outside influences. We would forfeit our rightful place on the world stage and as a leader of this continent.
“Moreover, not every split solves a problem. The political mentality, either good or bad, that defined a group before the split will remain after the divide. If one is imbued with factionalism, that perspective will remain even when the immediate problem is surmounted. Division will manifest differently, but manifest it will.
“A new factional bigotry will arise to replace the old. The cycle of tension and unrest will take its inexorable toll. Just ask the people of South Sudan if their woes ended when they left Sudan.
“When your heart is geared toward division, you will seek it within a single tribe, even a single family. The gossamer of ethnic unity will be ripped apart by sub-ethnic squabble. An angry man outside his home remains angry inside it as well and a thief steals from both stranger and friend.
“Driven by such a mentality, even someone you once called your brother becomes a nuisance, then a burden, and ultimately your enemy in short order.
“Thus, I oppose talk of break-up and all other exotic political arrangements tantamount to it. That I am a foe of disunity does not mean I have blinded myself to the truth that our nation is in need of great repair.
“We all see the nation for what it is. Some look further to see the nation for what it is not and they rush to condemn it.
“I choose to see the nation for what it can be and thus seek to nurture and cultivate it so that this Nigeria may bring forth the fullest blossoming of its riches, resources and ingenuity of its diverse people

http://dailypost.ng/2017/09/24/biafra-dont-condemn-ipob-tinubu-tells-nigerians/?utm_source=dlvr.it_dp1&utm_medium=facebook

Sarrki They are terrorist organization US can dictate to Nigeria We are a sovereign state

lolz you are beginning to sound like Omenka

another thread for Our Enemies to hide & delete
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omenka:
It is the haphazard character typical of ipob terrorists.

Today, they heap insults on the "afonja newspaper" when the report doesn't suit them. Tomorrow, they bring us news from the same source when it suits them.

It is the kind of shameful situation you get yourself into when you tend to be too emotional about every damn thing.

see frustration
nigga still awake by 5 a.m.
lol

He is entitled to His own opinion

where is Lalasticlala when he is needed?

this will not make front page. welcome to NL

Mynd44:
Calm down, Jim Clancy was praising President Buhari because even though he has his own issues, he still took time to speak out when other leaders wouldn't.

lol
Very typical

lalasticlala.

Boko Haram kills nine near bombed Borno camp
By Editor
22 September 2017 | 4:24 pm
PHOTO: AFP

Boko Haram fighters killed nine people from a camp that was mistakenly bombed by the Nigerian military earlier this year, an aid worker and a resident said on Friday.
The aid worker, who asked not to be identified because he is not authorised to talk to the media, said the attack happened near Rann, in northeastern Borno state, on Wednesday.
“Nine people were killed while working on their farms about three kilometres (just under two miles) from Rann,” he told AFP.

“They were all IDPs (internally displaced persons) living in the camp but used the opportunity provided by the relative calm in the area to tend to their farms for the rainy season.
“The attackers were no doubt Boko Haram and used the cover provided by the crops to lay ambush to the farmers… They attacked them with machetes and knives.
“They seized nine and slit their throats while others escaped and returned to the camp with cuts on their bodies. Some, however, fled to neighbouring Cameroon.”
Usman Wumbi, an IDP who fled to the border village of Wumbi, confirmed the account, adding: “These attacks have become frequent, especially in the rainy season.
“They (Boko Haram) regularly ambush farmers and kill them.”
Boko Haram fighters killed at least two people in a raid on Wumbi in June 2016, forcing hundreds across the border.
Details of the latest incident have been slow to emerge because of poor to non-existent telephone networks in the remote area, which has been a hotspot for Boko Haram activity.
Fighters active in the area are thought to belong to the Boko Haram faction led by Abubakar Shekau.
A botched Nigerian air strike, intended to hit jihadist fighters, hit the IDP camp in Rann on January 17, killing at least 112 as aid workers distributed food.
The military blamed “lack of appropriate marking of the area” on maps for the mistake, despite running the camp and having provided NGOs with logistical details for their activities.
Many of those in the camp were local people forced from their homes. Most were from the Kanuri ethnic group dominant in Borno state and also among Boko Haram.
Nigeria’s military considers Boko Haram a spent force. But attacks continue, particularly against farmers in hard-to-reach parts of rural Borno.
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Boko Haram

https://m.guardian.ng/news/boko-haram-kills-nine-near-bombed-borno-camp/

Afam4eva:
Nde ebe isi na isi?

the imposter is not an Igbo.
can't you see him calling his Yoruba brother mynd44 to help him push his trash to the front page.
which he surely will

cornel00:
I've learnt to see beyond my nose bro

go and sit down. Every Yoruba man now have opinion abt Igbos

Nnamdi KANU remain the only Igbo leader who can not be bought

like we give a Bleep

Afam4eva.
I love how you always Ignore Omenka and his Rants and mentioning here on nl & remain Resolute in ur Pursuits & Beliefs.
the Old boy seems to find a crush in you this days

vary unfortunate that the UN has no say on this.
the Kurds have everything it takes to become a country of it own and no one can stand on their way.
the Kurdish army single handedly defeated the ISIS and the Iragi army are so afraid of them.
the UN distanced themselves because the know that allowing Kurd to have their own Country will create instability in the sorounding Regions & Country because Iran, Turkey, and Syrea will Neva allow it as there are Large Chunk of Kurdish land & people scattered All over this 4 Countries(Iraq,Syrea,Turkey & Iran)
this four countries are scared of Creation of another Mini ISREAL in their mist.
the new Country(Kurdistan) in Iraq, will therefore serve as A OPERATING BASE for Kurdish militants Operating in the other countries.
(Turkey,Iran,& Syria)
because the Kurdish people/militants in Syria,Iran,& Turkey are also fight to Secede from them.
So it is the War & Instability that The New Country will Create that the UN is Taking into Consideration.
But the New Country will Surely be Created by Crook or Hook cos they are backed by US & Isreal who are so much interested in Creating Instability in the region becos when they are busy fighting themselves, the Us & Isreal will have some peace at home

omenka:
Mynd44, Lalasticlala, don't you think this thread would make for some healthy political jousting? We are in very unique times and this event captures the essence of this time.

Cc: Seun.

Aufbauh:
Onye'nkem, You wan resurrect this thread by fire by force.
I dey behind u......Udo deh Nwannem!

Thank God we don't have secessionist in this country as our own main problem here is Terrorism.

Imagine small country like Nigeria have two Terrorist groups.... Haba, satan wetin we do you for we obodo naija?

Throwback:
Isn't this the same UN, US and UK that IPOB have placed their hopes on?

I laugh in Biafra.

Talkwell:


If U.N can distance itself from the Kurds what of our brothers in the east

intruxive
you guys are trying so hard to convince us to give up on Biafra, only that y'all are doing it the Wrong way cos as a matter of Fact,
we know the Real deal on the Ground
.
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN STOP THE KURDS FROM HAVING THEIR ON COUNTRY ARE THE KURDISH PEOPLE THEMSELVES.
even turkey army fear them so much that all they threatening to do to them if they form their own country is to SANCTION THEM.
SO U SEE.
THE CHOICE ONLY REST ON THE SHOULDER OF THE KURDISH PEOPLE
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Yyeske:
Radio Biafra signing off

thought you have big issue with Radio Biafra

kingbet365:
Who Is The Terrorist? A Letter To President Buhari By SKC Ogbonnia
Who is the terrorist in the current Biafran crisis? Could it be you, General Muhammadu Buhari, who is intimidating and murdering civilians opposing your regime by way of self-determination as enshrined in the UN charter or the innocent victims themselves?
BY SKC OGBONNIASEP 21, 2017

Dear President Buhari,

I had planned to meet you one-on-one during the United Nations General Assembly in New York. But recent events have convinced me that the central issue of this letter has outgrown a private affair.

Not long ago, I was thinking that your recent long-stay in London could be a blessing in disguise. Besides the need for your full recovery, I fervently prayed that your brand of medical tourism, in of itself, could abreast you with at least three common principles that are conspicuously lacking in your democratic power. The first is that leadership is more enduring through dialogue than through terror. The second is that a leader of a nation is the father of all—regardless of political, cultural, social, or tribal differences. The third is that opposing viewpoints are the spice of democracy.

Little did I know that my prayers were a castle in the air. A leopard, we were warned, hardly changes its spots.

Many instances abound but none is more fanatic than your approach to the new Biafran agitation. Upon your return, instead of employing dialogue to attend to a myriad of problems begging your attention after a long absence, you chose to demonstrate your wellness by commanding the Nigerian Armed Forces to “crush” or, more plainly, to kill some youths opposed to your regime in the name of Biafra.

Mr. President, my position on the new Biafran agitation is an open book. For avoidance of doubt, my innocent opinion is written all over my various essays on the topic, for example, “How PDP and APC created New Biafran Agitations” and “Buhari and Nnamdi Kanu Fighting the Wrong Enemies”, and many others. To make it simple, I am for a united but equitable Nigeria. I do not subscribe to the IPOB agenda nor fancy Nnamdi Kanu’s style. But there are pertinent issues in their advocacy that must not be ignored.

In short, notwithstanding the sensational issue of secession for which Biafra is better known, you cannot feign ignorance of the fact that the rallying point of the agitation is anger against politicians like you, who dwell in ocean of huge wealth, not by the dint of any hard-work or intellect but through mere access to power. You, Muhammadu Buhari, cannot claim not to know that these Biafran youths, like other Nigerian youths, are angry at people like you and I, whose children school overseas and receive expert medical attention in foreign hospitals while the masses at home have nowhere to go for their own wellness.

On top of that, Nigeria currently has a president, you, who is generally seen a tribalist, sectionalist, misogynist, and religious bigot veiled in one garb. A majority of the Eastern youths, in particular, no longer sees you as their president. And you cannot blame them.

In the first place, you began your democratic regime by vowing to punish the people of the Eastern Region for the simple reason that they emulated their Northern counterparts to vote for their native son in the 2015 presidential election. You have since doubled down your vow with lopsided political appointments and projects that show utter disdain for the same region. Today, while you are doggedly commanding the Nigerian Armed Forces to “crush” the Eastern youths agitating for Biafra, you conveniently used dialogue, and wisely so, to contain their Northern counterparts who issued quit notice to the Igbo living in your region. Further, another group from your tribe, the Fulani Herdsmen, have been terrorizing the Middle Belt and Southern Nigeria, raping women and killing innocent civilians with impunity; yet you have continued to carry on as if the victims are the animals themselves.

As if your brazen pattern of sectionalism is not enough, your regime is now in a shameless back-and-forth dance with a confusing stance of either proscribing IPOB, associating it with terrorism or declaring the Biafran youths as terrorists. Which one, Mr. President?

Either way, did I really hear “terrorists” as the plural of terrorist?

Before you make up your mind, let us consider what a terrorist truly means. According to Merriam-Webster dictionary, terrorist is defined as “a person who uses unlawful violence or intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.”

Your Excellency, with the Holy Qur’an on your hand, please quietly go into “the other room” and look at yourself in the mirror and answer the following twin questions: Who is the terrorist in the current Biafran crisis? Could it be you, General Muhammadu Buhari, who is intimidating and murdering civilians opposing your regime by way of self-determination as enshrined in the UN charter or the innocent victims themselves?

There is no need to grapple with the questions any further. The answer can be gleaned from an emerging world view that once again casts you as a dictator bereft of ideas to lead but desirous to garner followership by intimidation. This explains why Tom Marino, a high-ranking member of the Trump presidency and the current US Drug Czar, then a Congressman and a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee, was bold to warn the United States, just a year ago, to withhold selling arms to Nigeria until you, President Buhari, demonstrates true “commitment to inclusive government and the most basic tenets of democracy: freedom to assemble and freedom of speech.”

Mr. President, that view has not changed. The Americans, that I know, know commitment to the most basic tenets of democracy when they see one. They already know that your Operation Python Dance in the South-East Nigeria is stark opposite. The world knows that the military action is nothing but a scheme to rekindle the zeitgeist of the Biafran war—hoping to regain your waning popularity within our party and the nation at large.

But Nigerians are wiser. That is why patriots from the east, north, and the west, including my very humble self, are uniting against you. We recognize that your Python Dance—no matter how constitutional or elegant—is misguided and ill-timed. Unlike you, the vast majority of Nigerians recognizes that dialogue is the way forward, not terror. Unlike you, we recognize that the lives of these Biafran youths are not less important than the lives of your children and grandchildren silver-spooned by the way of our common wealth.

You will also fall into the temptation of deploying your Igbo appointees to attempt to paint a different picture at the UN gala. But that strategy is also a vain hope. Their voices will be outnumbered by the true Nigerian ambassadors in the Diaspora, who are deeply entrenched in the global political economy, the Igbo elites very well-included. These patriots, most of whom have understandably maintained stoic silence, will be provoked to counter you with the truth anywhere. As I had counseled in the essay, “Buhari’s New Change Ought to Begin with His Igbo Problem”; Your sole wining option is to trek back to where the rain started beating you; the world in 2017 is no longer that of 1967.

So, Your Excellency, come back home. Come back home. The current Biafran crisis is not as insoluble as you portray it to be. Even a blind squirrel can sometimes find a nut. What is needed, therefore, is for the “change” to truly begin with you. With a new lease of life, you can still muster the willpower to become a detribalized leader who truly believes in united but equitable Nigeria. You can still develop the capacity for dialogue and value for all Nigerian lives. The problem, though, is that you have not tried.

You can reach SKC Ogbonnia at SKCOgbonnia1@aol.com.

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EzeIgboNwaChukwu:
trash trash trash go and face the Nigerian Army and spew this rubbish nonsense. Just take away this Biafra nonsense out of my Abia state.

no tym for Yoruba bastards

Bia.
Seun.
mynd44 keep blocking threads & referring us to similar threads which he never move to front page.
especially threads favouring Biafra.
pls Do sth about it

igbodefender:
Then you people are not yet ready to play. Oh, I forgot. It's too late. It is people like you the pushed Nnamdi KANU to make blunders. With your overly emotional outlook.

pls go and sit down.
as if your opinion counts or matters