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Obum is it abt u or someone else

Them are bringing them true colours out now.

[Posted by: adeoba
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I'm Catholic and I don't believe in being 'born-again'/quote]

@ Sweet lioness, did i hear you well..................... u falling for a catholic Except he is one of them charismatics, otherwise i suggest you run as fast as your heels can.

contradicting themselves

Tricky

[I know a couple, d female was born dec 31st 1977 and the hussy was born Jan 2nd 1978./quote]

story

The truth bites huh?

[Posted by: prettyH
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u know what your essay or whatever is too long not to give people migraines for them to read and understand . because i personally wont read it. please shorten/quote]

@prettyH.............Duh
simply logic, the lion/lioness roars
just like dog barks when they re mad

If u read my previous posts u will see that i gave a clear and precise definition. Am yet to see a catholic give me what their definitions state. They only base theirs on mine and say "thats what we know too. Let them say it

My point exactly?

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so far no one has answered the question asked in this forum. All that is been said is that the ROman catholic church was the first church and that they believe in born again.
My questn is:
Why do u burn candles and incenses while service is on? sorry to say this, but some white garment churches in Nigeria known for being very fetish in nature do the same thing in service.
I do not also believe that the catholic church believe in being bron again, because their girls go around sleeping with every tom, privates n harry and come to church for confession on saturday. that i think encourages sin.
Finally, the Mary issue, Why do u pray through mary. Jesus said we should pray to God in his name not through mary.

Please i want real answers and not debunking comments or someone telling me to read some history written in Latin/quote]

WOW, Da lioness is are gonna roar at PrettyH soon

Nothin personal, but i no see anything inside this song oo.

Its the same stuff with what we hear everyday in the nigerian music industry.

I played it thrice and it still didnt click.

i dont think so

I was only wondering why they then criticize other pentecostal born agains saying that "all these pentecostals make a big deal of being born again?

And do you know i recently met some catholics who said they spoke in tongues. That they are the charismatic renewal society. hahahahah catholic speak in tongues ................. yeah right

it will lead us to heaven



So catholics are actually born again too hmmmmm interesting ......................but why ............

good one man!

@adesoidgi, Sharrap there now. Who told your this forum is for Catholics only. What do u mean by why am I here [discriminating as usual]. Abi u no get eye to read say na me start this thread? I asked the question that your presently burning up for. Okay Mary gave birth to God the Son, Mr KNOW BIBLE, quote the passge for me

[hey man u talk like u havn't read the bible for ages have u read this previous post>that says there are three Gods in one God,GOD the father,God the son and God the holy spirit...i don't even think your a catholic,so why are you here?/quote]

For crying out loud, who ever said God was born.
He is alpha and omega.
If you say He was born by Mary then, Mary came before God and then God is not alpha
which makes Mary Alpha. That means you guys are Blasphemy.
Mary is mother of Jesus - the Son. God is the Father not Son to Mary
God had to have a medium to bring His Son Jesus [The word]
"Abi Jesus for drop from sky like that"

You see the controversy i was talking about.
@whocares ............. jiberisturumburu rabababab turatatramama dayu tu ratus kumito ribertanika  interpretation:  what do u think about that Sucker!




[Dont get brain-washed]

You say "many churches"   like the different catholic churches parishes are' nt part of the many churches in Nigeria. Or are you saying you guys are not a church. Is it a shrine or a cult?

How dare you talk of perpetuating evil.  Is evil not part of the molestation and abuse giving by your priest, or your gay bishop, or the "mafia setting" that goes on .................. nonsense.  Who made you a Judge.

@  whocares

[The most wicked and devious people i have ever met have been so called 'born agains'. Those who carry their 'good works' on their sleeve and perpertuate evil behind closed doors.
We have more churches in Nigeria in one city than some entire country's, yet we are sooo corrupt.
BTW corruption is rooted in wickedness, because it takes a wicked man to take food from the hungry to line his own pockets. Then run around making astronomical donations to churches./quote]


Thats the only sensable thing u've said

[I accept that no one religion, method of worship or faith is the right one./quote]

too late for questions, You got her pregnant, you stay with her. Period

@IAN, AM NOT JUDGINGGGG NO ONE for the nth time

If you know why they pray to Mary and bow to her, just tell me.................... simple

sure thing nferyn, i used to think they were but there is this Holy Mary factor u know.

Bowing down to the statue of Mary. And wearing a Mary necklace.

Asking Mary to pray for their sins aka praying through Mary to God

Asking Mary to plead with Jesus to talk to God - [really dont get this one]

Praying with bids[rosary] - i thot Jesus said repetitive prayers were wrong

We should give her honour yes but worshipping her........... i dunno men.


Please understand that this is just curiousity.

No one is defining being born again because every one knows what it means.
Also, mind you, i asked a question, i didnt make a conclusion, so if you feel you have an answer to the question, go ahead and answer it. cos am just curious thats all. and to answer your own questions,

1.Christ salvation if accepted by you, makes you born again
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2. Your own confession of it and profession of it, including the christlike living of it makes you born again, walking in love among all brethen -YES

3. God wants everyone to consiously receive his Son Jesuschrist

4. Baptism by water and the holy spirit. Accepting Jesus as your Lord and Personal saviour and cofess him as lord over your live. and determine to live like him. you do it yourself, no one does it on your behalf.

5. Accept and Confess Jesus as Lord. The only way. Letting go of every other worship or believe. Every eviland any form of idolatry.


Everyone is born a christain but believing and obeying and COUSIOUSLY accepting Jesus and His authority is what makes you a believer or a born again. Being baptised by water and the holy spirit.

Now can you answer my question

I do not think catholics believe in being born-again. The catholic church recently have a break out " renewal charismatic catholic church" and "the watchman " this new groups have a worship system close to the pentecostal worshipand alittle to the catholic and they say they are catholics but they believe in being born again and the holy spirit which they say is different from the roman catholic church believe.


Whats up with that Thats the controversy am talking about.

yeah its open again, go speak your heart out[Catholic/Pentecostal: why the disagreement?url][Catholic/Pentecostal: why the disagreement?/url]

I have love for catholics but i really dont get 'em.

Are they actually believers do they actually believe in being born again
And why are there many controversy around the catholic church.

hey seun, is this back up.