₦airaland Forum

planetx:
Not only did the founding fathers he is praising killed the Native Indians and stole their land, they also enslaved millions of Africans for hundreds of years. But according to him God overlooked all this atrocities and blessed America because the founding fathers were strong Christians.

This is what happens when you think you know too much, but you really have no clue what you're talking about......The same founding fathers were the ones who thought it that slavery should be abolished even though some people who were profitting from it resisted the move to end slavery.

Go and study, and stop showing your ignorance here. Do you know what caused the American civil war? Do you know why the confederates went to war against the unionists? It was because of the issue of slavery! The founding fathers fought a civil war with their own white brothers just because they were hell-bent on enforcing the end of slavery, but the confederates would not agree to it. Go and study your history before you come to talk out of point all in the name of fighting God or christianity!

Secondly, are you not aware that slavery has always been a practice that dates back to as far as human history? Was it christians that invented slavery? Was slavery not already in existence before the time of Abraham? Stop deceiving yourself by trying to blame slavery on christianity!

As a matter of fact, it was the God of the bible that even first gave rules to human beings on how to treat slaves if you ever had one. Go and study the bible in Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy and see where God gave the israelites rules on how to treat their slaves. God told them that nobody should maltreat their slaves, he also told them that they were not supposed to keep a slave for more than 7years. If you had a slave, you must let him go free by the 7th year, with the only exception being a situation where the slave loves his master so much that he doesn't want to leave his master, and in which case that slave is permitted to remain a slave. These laws concerning treatment of slaves are clearly written in the bible, but you won't go and study to find them out by yourself.

THE ONLY REASON WHY SLAVERY ENDED WAS BECAUSE SOME CHRISTIANS DECIDED IT WAS NOT FAIR TO TREAT A FELLOW HUMAN BEING AS A SLAVE, AND AS SUCH THE PRACTICE SHOULD BE ABOLISHED, AND GUESS WHAT? THEY WERE WILLING TO FIGHT A WAR AND GIVE THEIR LIVES DURING THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR FOR SLAVERY TO END!


You would have probably been a slave today, working in some American sugar plantation if not for Christians who believed in fairness, equity and justice and fought in the American civil war for slavery to end! You are a hypocrite if you don't agree to say the truth, which is that you owe your freedom that you enjoy today to christianity! Imagine if Saudi Arabia or Iran was the super power of this world instead of a Christian nation like America? Maybe by now, you would never have even had the freedom to open that your mouth to criticize the injustices in this world.

Lirqur:
Pfft, They there. If you know the "God" America is talking about you won't be here defending the saying "God's own Country". Ever wonder why they hide under the word "God?" Don't be deceived. America from inception was never God's country. All of that is a facade. Same way you think Israel is the true Israel. When they say "God bless America," majority of the people are being deceived. Don't fall for it. If you know who owns America, you will renounce that statement "God's own country".

Do you know why I'm 100% sure you've been deceived? It's because the God that the founding Fathers of America followed and built American constitution/values on is the God that gave the 10 commandments! Please, how many gods do you know that gave out 10 commandments? Is there another god who gave 10 commandments?

Like it or not, America is a country whose prosperity was built on the foundation of the right values and culture that came from what their founding fathers copied from the bible. Britain became great because of the same principles, until the 2nd half of the 20th century when liberals started destroying their values, and today, the tiny Britain that once ruled more than 25% of the entire earth is now in crisis and even begging ordinary China to sign trade deals with them. Britain today is no where close to America that she once colonized. The GDP of America alone is far more than the GDP of the entire 28 European Union countries combined - That is what a prosperous country looks like! And guess what, America is still a christian country, and their President says that all the time, and most of the people who voted for Trump are christians who believe in those core values that the founding fathers bequeathed to the nation. Those who voted against Trump are mostly liberals like Obama and Oprah and Clinton, who do not believe in the God of the bible or support his ways. No wonder they are the ones pushing for legalization of marijuana, abortion, homosexuality and transgenderism.

Zoharariel:
Shut up your filthy mouth! There's no god who sits on a 24karat solid-gold throne up in the sky surrounded by 24-jobless elders & looking through a microscope to see his filthy, hypocritical, self-serving animals who only go to the church on Sundays to show off their latest mercedes benz, covet their neigbour's wives & launder their ill-gotten yahoo-yahoo money through offerings to some bastard men of god who live on handouts from their congregants while giving glory to an imaginary white-bearded sky daddy for providing their needs.

Look, a$$hole, the church is nothing more than a religious event center for social gathering.

I can even go there to smoke igbo or have sex and nothing will happen - therefore stop that bulshiiit talk about god being merciful & fast to forgive.

This is the reason Afrika is backward & under-developed. Instead of you bastards to embrace science by converting all your useless churches & mosques into Research & Development centers, you're intensifying your stupidity with prayers & praise-worshipping hoping it will turn Nigeria into an Eldorado - wasted generation!

No wonder in Psalms 14:1 , God said "THE FOOL SAYS IN HIS HEART THAT THERE IS NO GOD"


The most developed nation on earth is America, and America was founded by strong Christians who believed in God and used the 10 commandments as a basis for drawing up their constitution. They so believed in God to extent that even on their currency called the dollar, they inscribed the words "In God we trust". So stop lying to yourself that when you remove God from a society, development comes in. America is one of the countries with the highest number of christian population in the world, and they are most powerful and developed. They are far more developed than all of the countries of the European Union combined! Liberalism started creeping into America from the 2nd half of the last century, and a lot of things started going wrong, the liberals decided to push Government to remove prayer and bible reading from the school curriculum, and not long after, mass shootings in schools became a normal thing.

The problem with self-deceiving liberals like you is the fact that you are too blind to see that the freedom and development you enjoy in advanced societies today are as a result of the moral values and culture set in place by the founding fathers of these great countries. And guess what? most of these values came from the bible. The problem with Nigeria is that there are too many professing christians who have not decided to imbibe the values and principles of God, that is why it's easy to find christians who don't see anything wrong in doing business with people and cheating their partners to make more money for themselves.

THE PROBLEM IS NOT AND HAS NEVER BEEN WITH JESUS, THE PROBLEM HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT FOLLOW PRINCIPLES. THE PRINCIPLES TO MAKE ANY SOCIETY GREAT AND PROSPEROUS ARE ALREADY THERE IN THE BIBLE, SO STOP TAKING OUT YOUR LIFE FRUSTRATIONS ON GOD!

As a rule, any society that decides to follow the 10 commandments alone will automatically end up a great and prosperous nation. Why? because in the 10 commandments, you find laws that encourage equity, fairness and justice, where the stronger species of the society cannot oppress the weaker. In the 10 commandments, you find laws that ensure integrity - that in itself is one of the greatest capitals for doing business, which most Nigerians lack! In the 10 commandments, you find laws that uphold the defence of truth!

In fact, any human being who says they have problems with the 10 commandments must either be an enemy of progress himself or an incarnate of the devil! Europe is falling apart today because most of them have managed to remove God from their system. Great Britain of yesteryears is no longer great , and today Theresa May has to beg China to do business with them.

Gentle034:
Hmmmmm. Let God be d judge of their live

Why do people like you always wait for God to come and judge what he has already judged in his written word? Did Jesus not clearly say "you cannot serve two masters "? Did God not say in the 10 commandments that you should not serve any other god except him? If you agree to condemn such idolatrous practice of a pastor going to join native doctors or secret societies, how does that make you "judgemental "?

Anyone who goes against what is clearly written in scriptures has already judged himself by his actions. stop feeling like it is a sin to call a sin a sin

adem30:
That's what irritate me most. Praying in the name of one Pastors God.

This same issue almost ruined TOPE ALABI career. She was used to calling on "Olorun Ajanaku" And when this same Pastor called Ajanaku died, Ogboni people claimed he is their member and buried him

God of Adeboye or God of Oyedepo is no different from saying "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" as used in the bible several times. As long as Adeboye or Oyedepo serves the true God.

PAGAN9JA:
jesus sucks. who the hell is he? that tithe extortionist.

He is the owner of your life, before whom you will stand for judgement the moment your life on earth is over for Him to decide if you spend eternity in heaven or hell based on your relationship with him while you were alive on earth.

Secondly, He is not your mate, but you don't know it now. Stephen Hawking didn't believe a week ago, but now he is screaming in torment and wishing Jesus would give him just 1 minute to come back to earth and repent, then die again so he can go to heaven .

ameri9ja:
Stop comparing miracles with alms giving. If Madam had healed a cripple no one would be saying she should have been more private about it.

Be honest, knowing the Nigerian church biz scene, how much planning and painstaking preparation do u think went into this "coincidence"?

If this were the times when Jesus walked the face of the planet, you would have made a very good pharisee or sadducee. It's religious and critical people like you who crucified Jesus. It's people like you who would want to stone Jesus for healing on a Sabbath day. Your heart is void of love and that is why instead of rejoicing for the good that was done for those 3 orphans, you are more interested in crucifying the pastor for helping the poor in public. You need to repent, accept the love of Jesus into your heart, stop being a hypocrite and love your neighbour as yourself. without that, you can't see the kingdom of God. this hatred and jealousy in your heart towards men of God will not let you enter heaven if you don't repent. You cannot claim to be a Christian and be interested in destroying the servants of God. Control your jealousy!

ameri9ja:
You miss the point. This clearly is GRANDSTANDING. These are not people about to die of hunger! Look up the word "gauche". That defines this exactly. Things like this always get around. Everyone eventually hears about them. Christ NEVER tried to publicise any of his miracles yet everyone heard about them.

Christ fed EVERYONE that was there because it was late and... It was a spontaneous miracle. He did not gather 5000 poor people during a crusade and tell everyone, and NL, with cameras rolling, that He'd feed them!

Were you there? did you witness the even to be able to talk with so much authority about what happened in a place you never were? The people who were there have told you what happened and you want to dispute it just because of jealousy and hatred for Pastors.

Do you even ask yourself serious questions at all? So if Mrs Oritsejafor was looking for a place to get money or influence, you really think it would be in a local market like this? If all those market women and crowd there contribute all their money to give to her, would the money they raised be up to one-tenth of the cost of her husbands private jet? Why don't you reason things well and control your jealousy?

For the umpteenth time, Jesus fed multitudes in public when it was necessary and Mrs Oritsejafor taking care of these orphans in the middle of the crusade is no different from what Jesus did when he fed 5000 men

ameri9ja:
Ok.

As Christ said, do things like these in private and God will reward you.
If u do it publicly like this, u have already received your reward plus it also looks like it is for publicity. But it is better than not doing it at all.

Why are human beings like this? No wonder the bible says that 'the heart of man is deceitful, and desperately wicked!'
If a pastor gives to the needy in secret, people like you will come out to complain and blame all the failures of your government on pastors, and accuse all pastors of being scammers who only take from the poor and give nothing to help the poor. Then when pastors give to the poor and you see them doing the giving, you begin to complain that they should not give in public. Excuse me, do you know Jesus never said it is a sin to give in public? He only said that if your giving publicly is primarily to get people to see you and shower you with praises, then you have already received your reward from men when they praise you. it doesn't mean you can't give publicly. So if you are in public now and a somebody is about to die of hunger, and you have money to give the person so they won't faint and die, you will then tell the person no? Will you say no and allow the person to faint and die just because you are both not in a secret location where people can't see you saving the person from imminent death due to hunger? Please my friend, be using your sense for positive things rather than for hating and jealousing pastors and men of God.


DID JESUS FEED THE FIVE THOUSAND MEN WITH 5LOAVES OF BREAD AND 2 FISHES IN SECRET? DID HE NOT DO IT IN PUBLIC BEFORE THE EYES OF ALL MEN WHILE THEY LOOKED?

etugba:
with members money

No! They should have used non-members' money or gone to borrow money from Lucifer to build the church.


Enemies of progress everywhere these days, and all venting their frustrations on the church.

ladiesreject:
Answer the simple question
Why is it that they don't bury two of them if one of them die? That you're a Christian or Christlike doesn't mean you should not have common sense to reason things on your own. Two ppl can never be one, take it or leave it!

Oga calm down there and stop your Oversabi. There is no argument on the matter, the point is Jesus clearly said the two will become one, and you are not wiser than Jesus. If the God who created you says a thing, then you better believe it. If you had more wisdom and understanding than Jesus, then why didn't you create the universe with your wisdom?

I REPEAT AGAIN - WITHOUT FAITH, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD! You cannot contain or understand God with your brain. Your common sense cannot help you understand or obey God. If it could, then explain how Jesus dying over 2000years ago gave you salvation. Explain how it makes sense to love your enemies. The fact that you don't understand some things in scriptures does not mean they are not truths. When we were in primary school, 2 minus 3 did not make sense to us, we were told it's "impossible". But when we got into secondary school, we understood that 2 minus 3 = -1

That you don't understand a truth today does not mean it is not true. You will understand many things when you grow spiritually.

ladiesreject:
I'm a practicing Christian but I've never believed in that for better, for worse bull crap. Again, how can two ppl become one because they're now married? If it is so, why can't they bury them together if one eventually dies? Two ppl can never be one, never!

To be on the safe side, just call yourself a church-goer, YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN. A Christian is one only because they believe everything Jesus says, a Christian is someone who is Christ-like. A Christian CANNOT OPEN THEIR MOUTH TO SAY THEY DISAGREE WITH THE WORDS OF JESUS. They may not understand some of the things Jesus has said, but they cannot disagree with it. That is why the bible clearly said that WITHOUT FAITH, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD!

NwaAmaikpe:



After all of these,
Why won't the foolish woman stay by his side even when she knows he is a chronic philanderer that screws every actress that comes his way....

She just mortgaged her happiness and soul to the fake prophet.

When agents of darkness speak, it's not too hard to identify the demons speaking through them. Pls control your jealousy and those other demons speaking through you. Otobo accused man of God and you believed her, the same Otobo confessed to her blackmail and you claim you don't believe her because "the man of God must be pulled down". No! Your problem is not pastors, rather, your problem is the demons who have possessed your soul and have a noose around your neck and are dragging you to hell while fulfilling your Apostolic calling to the kingdom of darkness. And if I ever hear you again claim that Billy Graham and KC Price led you to Christ, I will smack that feeding bottle out of your mouth!

Austinoiz:
Who's this aimless sheeple doing the only thing his G.O taught him...cursing?
Pained sheeple, take am jeje ok. Your G.O is an Nshi Nwanyi.

Austinoiz control your jealousy! We know you're an enemy of progress and it's paining you that the man of God keeps succeeding despite the efforts of your colleagues from the kingdom of darkness to pull him down, but you don't have to make your jealousy too obvious. Control it!

sigiyaya:
There is no difference between a Nigerian religious leaders (pastors, Rev fr, and the imams) and a Nigerian politicians
They all have one common goal and they succeed because Nigerians are stupidly gullible and myopic

Did you anybody notice the police men with AK 47 guiding a supposed man of God who preaches to his followers to arm and protect them self with Prayers, Handkerchief and Anointed oil, Meanwhile there is high level of insecurity in the country as a matter of fact almost 200 girls where kidnapped from there school some days ago in Yobe state

Whoever tied your destiny from the village must be a very powerful jazz man for their jazz to make you have this mentality. I haven't met you before, but from your statement alone, I can tell with 100% certainty that a lot of demons are working tirelessly to ensure your destiny is used as tissue paper in the covens of witches, and of course there will be no freedom from you, because you are already at war with the church of God and God's servants who are supposed to be the solutions to your spiritual problems. Don't worry, keep on patronising native doctors and let's see how far you will get with your solutions!

dalaman:
Not that I believe in hell. But assuming hell exist and there is a God that sends people there for unbelief and other things, then such a God doesn't deserve to be worshiped.

unfortunately, the Almighty God does not need your approval, vote or validation for him to remain God. Your disdain for him CANNOT CHANGE WHO HE IS, OR THE FACT THAT HE CREATED HEAVEN AND EARTH AND HELL. You can feign ignorance of his existence now, but that's called SELF-DECEPTION, it won't stop hell from existing. WHETHER YOU WORSHIP GOD OR NOT, GOD WILL STILL REMAIN ON HIS THRONE, AND SINNERS WHO REFUSE TO REPENT WILL STILL KEEP GOING TO HELL.

You are man. You cannot understand God fully or his ways. The day you fully understand God and why/how he does every single thing he does, that day he stops being God because you have figured him out. YOUNG MAN, STOP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AN INFINITE GOD WITH YOUR 3-DIMENSIONAL BRAIN THAT IS CONSTRAINED BY TIME, SPACE AND MATTER! GOD EXISTS OUTSIDE OF THOSE PARAMETERS, SO HE IS NOT CONSTRAINED BY THEM. IF HE WERE, THEN HE IS NOT ALMIGHTY AND WORTH WORSHIPPING. HIS WAYS ARE NOT YOUR WAYS!

frosbel2:
Dunce alert !!!

Bros, please try and control your jealousy. We all know that Some (not all) of these men of God you are always fighting and wasting your effort to pull down have achieved what 100 frosbel2s put together cannot achieve in a hundred lifetimes, and we know it pains you to your soul when out of jealousy you realise that you pale in comparison to them, but at least you can still control your jealousy. You don't have to make it obvious all the time, it makes you look bad and hurts your cause of spreading your false religious beliefs.

Take a clue from Lucifer's condition today; what kept him where he is today was his jealousy of God, and him wanting to be like God.

I say it again; please try and control your jealousy of genuine men of God.

oderemo:
Dont excuse these men please, are they going to be nailed on the cross aswell?

Guy if you want to be unreasonable please just park! So they shouldn't use wisdom just because they are pastors? Are they wiser or more powerful than Jesus who went about with armed security? Why is it that when most people want to judge men of God, they keep their common sense on a coconut tree and only bring it down when they finish judging

smithoo:
The man trusted his mobile police than The Holy Spirit to protect him.

If you were a Christian you would have known that Jesus' disciples were carrying swords when moving with Jesus and that was why Peter drew his sword to cut off the ear of one of the servants of the high priest that came to arrest Jesus before Jesus told Peter to put back his sword. If Jesus needed armed people around him, then why not Apostle Suleiman or other men of God?

removetheturban:
Your choice, your life. I spoke my truth and what does intelligence have to do with this?

Intelligence tells you to examine things first before you decide on them! Intelligence tells you to question the status quo and seek answers to things you don't know or understand, and not to wish them away because you don't understand them.

Intelligence tells you that when people put up a video with such compelling evidence as I just did, you should first take the facts they presented and investigate before coming to a conclusion. But you did none of those before you jumped to conclude everyone of those people were lying. Those were very different people in different countries who didn't know each other. They all died and went to the same place and saw the same things that concur with the Bible's description of hell. They are not saying anything new. what they are describing are things that we already know as written in the bible about hell.

So oga, Take up the information in those videos, especially the one about Dan Eke that happened here in Nigeria, go and ask questions from the places where he said everything happened, starting from Umezurike hospital to the mortuary he was kept for 3 days. when you have done all that and the people you asked in those places tell you no such thing happened in 2001, then come back and tell us I was lying. Besides, I have also personally met 2 different people in Nigeria who died and came back to life and what they saw was not different from what these people in the videos also saw. One of the two people I am talking about died in a car accident on his was from Owerri to Uyo in 2012, and he was prayed for and came back to life after 2 days. One of the ways you know they were dead is that they all saw themselves leaving their bodies and they could tell you what was happening around them at the time they left their bodies before they started descending to hell. They could tell you who and who were around them and what each person around them was saying at the time they came out of their bodies and were standing and seeing their motionless bodies lying down.

frosbel2:
100% fear tactics used to intimidate and cajole the sheeple into sticking with Church.

Sorry, all this means nothing, I take truth over strange visions and dreams any day and anytime.

These videos are the main reason why Pentecostalism is a serious illness.

You worship God because you fear he will torture you for all eternity and yet he is GOD OF LOVE ??

Lool

All nonsense !!

For your information, I don't worship God "because he will torture me for all eternity if I don't ", I worship him because HE IS GOD AND THE ONLY REASON WHY WE HUMANS WERE CREATED IS TO WORSHIP HIM. I worship him because he has shown me too much love and compassion through Christ even when I was born and living in sin. I worship him because it is the height of foolishness to not acknowledge and worship my maker who created me for that reason.

Your question sounds very intelligible to you, but I can't see any iota of brilliance in it cos it's just like a 2 year-old asking me if the reason I haven't killed my parents and all family members is because I don't want to go to jail and suffer there. Even if there was no prison, I would still love my family because they are where I came from. Even if there was no law against murder, I still would not kill my parents simply because I love them and they are where I came from. Even if there was no hell, I would still worship God. But just as there is a prison for people who break the laws here on earth, there is also a "prison" called hell for people who decide to willingly break God's laws. The difference is when you get into prison here on earth, there is hope you may come out someday after some years, but when you get into God's prison called hell, there is no hope for eternity.

Lastly, GOD DOESN'T THROW PEOPLE INTO HELL. IT IS PEOPLE'S DECISION TO REJECT GOD'S SOLUTION TO SIN (Which is Christ) THAT CONDEMNS THEM TO HELL. John 3:18 "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. "

It is the same way judges do not throw people into prison, but rather people's crimes are what sends them to prison because justice must have its way. God is a God of love and mercy, but also a God of justice. Justice means REWARD "RIGHTEOUSNESS " AND PUNISH "EVIL". If God decides not to allow sinners go to hell, then he has contradicted his nature of justice. The Good news we preach is that THE DEMANDS OF JUSTICE HAVE BEEN MET FOR ANY WHO IS IN CHRIST, BECAUSE JESUS HAS PAID THE PRICE FOR SIN OF EVERYONE WHO COMES TO HIM!

removetheturban:
These testimonies cannot be proven or held as authentic. Any drunk can come out to say anything and people will buy it. You better prove your doctrine using the Bible and not YouTube videos. these men are incredible.

Are you intelligent at all? Do you not know how to prove or disprove things when facts and evidence are provided to you? Have you not seen the names of all the places and times when the events happened? Is Umezurike hospital in Owerri not still in existence? Have you gone there to ask questions and they told you it was a lie? Have you gone to the mortuary where he was kept for 3 days and they said it was not true? You just want to just sit in your house and know what happened or didn't?

Guestlander:
I agree with you on one thing God is very slow to anger. Otherwise, he will just strike some pastors with thunder for using his name to rip people off.

I agree with you on that except that when you mistakingly judge a genuine man of God and call him names, the same God would have also struck you dead immediately if not for his mercy and slowness to anger. That of course doesn't mean that there are no fake Prophets everywhere you go, but the major issue is that most people don't even study the word of God to know the ways of God before they come out to start condemning pastors generally in their ignorance. If most christians understood the bible, you will not have one Christian following fools like daddy Freeze who believe there are different ways to God and that Christians and Muslims worship the same God, yet he is the one trying to teach christians what to follow in the bible.

ycat:
Smart niggur!

The moment I saw the video, I knew she's now lying to repair Suleiman's image and get paid in return, but unfortunately, many will fall for the drama.

Yeah. .........many idiots like you who have never met either Stephanie or Apostle Suleiman but they believed Stephanie's initial blackmail, and when the same blackmailer comes out to confess that she lied, you will say it's not true BECAUSE YOU WERE ACTUALLY IN THE SAME HOTEL ROOM WITH THE TWO OF THEM WATCHING THEM HAVE SEX! You better grow up and stop letting foolishness and stupidity blind you. This same stubbornness and foolishness is the exact reason why you haven't given your life to Christ even with all the evidence of Christ's love, heaven and hell staring you in the face.

You want to know why God did not immediately destroy Stephanie Otobo last year when she came to lie against an innocent man? It's simply because of love. God the all powerful is slow to anger and judgement and he gives the wicked a long time for them to repent. but when people take God's love and patience for granted, they end up in destruction after God's patience runs out on them. This is the only reason why atheists are still alive on this planet and wasting God's free oxygen while denying the existence of God whose oxygen they consume

hopefulLandlord:
I have a feeling a huge amount of cash has moved from Suleiman's hands to Otobo's and this charade was put up as closure to the whole brouhaha; This is best for all parties concerned

1. Otobo comes out of this richer, good business

2. Suleiman loses some money but would gain even more following from this as he's "vindicated" which in turn leads to more income so the money he paid Otobo might be insignificant on the long run; good business

3. The sheeples trust their pastor more and raise their tithe to 30% like Suleiman reportedly raised his to (who does he tithe to? well..... cough cough)

4. Pastor haters would be disappointed

5. (some) Atheists simply ask the question, why couldn't Holy Spirit reveal the truth of the matter to the congregation? to all Christians? cuz many Christians were of the opinion Suleiman is guilty while many were of the opinion that he's innocent and all of them claim to have Holy spirit that reveals "Truth" to them


I dedicate this FTC to the flying spaghetti monster, the one true God that created everything

Eyaaaaaaaaaa.............truth is so hurtful to evil men. See how it's paining you deep into your marrows that God's servant was vindicated. Pls find Ibuprofen and take 5 tablets to ease the pain you're going through. Kpele!

But this pain you feel is nothing compared to the pain, hopelessness and untold terror of hell. You can laugh and scorn now as you and some of your cult members did when Stephanie initially came up with her blackmail last year, until the truth suddenly hit you guys so hard now that you don't even know what to say again other than changing topic to tithe of 30%. But the thing you should be afraid of is you discovering the truth about Christ, heaven and hell when you're dead and there is no opportunity for repentance anymore.

gypsey:
Absolute Rubbish! more fairytales! i noticed that all your clips were made by white people, the same white people who introduced christianity, God and jesus to Africa, the same whiteys who kidnapped, slaved and brainwahed Africans with Religion, christianity, God and jesus, you Actually believe all these stupid clips? you live your life According to video clips? your gullibility is beyond redemption!

next time you are ill don't bother going to your doctor or hosptal wait for God or native voodoo man to heal you they both obviously has the power to kill or heal you.

Do you know how I know you're a very unserious human being? It's because you have all the facts you could choose to verify or investigate right in the videos, especially the last one involving Dan Eke who happens to be a Nigerian and died in a Nigerian hospital and was kept in a Nigerian mortuary for 3days before he was taken to a crusade in Onitsha where he came back to life. The name of the hospital where he was confirmed dead is mentioned, the address of the hospital is still in the same place in Owerri, the records will be there. The time he died was mentioned there. If you were interested in truth, you could easily investigate for yourself, but no, You have refused to do your homework to search if those facts are truth or not. You would rather sit in the comfort of your sofa in your parlour and decide by yourself what happened in 2001 or not. Your type are the ones who are so full of themselves that they will never listen to truth if it conflicts with their mindset.

Keep on calling all the evidence rubbish. You will use the same mouth to plead for mercy when you stand before God and he reminds you of all the people who preached to you on earth but you chose not to listen or even do yourself a basic favour of investigating claims brought before you before tagging them as rubbish. No wonder God said "my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" and "because you have rejected knowledge, i have also rejected you".

The last clip was a pastor who died in 2001. He was in the mortuary for 3 days before he was taken by his wife to Reinhard Bonnke's crusade in Onitsha where he came back to life during the crusade while he was being prayed for. If you doubt, the records are there. He was confirmed dead at Umezuruike Hospital in Owerri. You can lunch your own investigation, trace the hospital where he was confirmed dead, trace the mortuary where he was kept for 3days and trace the people who worked in that mortuary to confirm if the story is true or false, then afterwards come here with your proofs to dispute the story.







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYuY7Cm4KuQ





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vj0qKthCgg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzx4nyZKc2U

Emmytes:
1. God could have just forgiven us. If god is omnipotent, he can do whatever he wants for whatever reason – which, in the Old Testament, he pretty much does; the Book of Job proved that following all of god’s rules was no guarantee that he wouldn’t screw you over and murder your family just because he can. Possessed of the power and the will, if he wanted to absolve humanity of its sins, why not just do so? Better yet, why not just make sin disappear altogether, or make humans sin-free in the first place? Giving yourself a son with the express intent of torturing him to death and then resurrecting him as a way to show your mercy seems unnecessary at best, and it is certainly not merciful. Making matters worse, even after this gruesome spectacle there are strings attached to god’s so-called forgiveness because you are forgiven only if you accept that Jesus was the son of god – not a slam dunk seeing as how Jesus is as easily interpreted as a nutcase as he is a prophet. True to form, God declines to provide any actual evidence of Jesus’ divinity while simultaneously making his forgiveness contingent upon accepting that premise. The story of the crucifixion in fact strikes me as a lot closer to the story of Job – of mean-spiritedness for its own sake – than a story of love and redemption.

2. Pick a testament already. When confronted with the atrocities of the bible, Christians are quick to point out that it’s just the god of the Old Testament who was vengeful, and that Jesus created a new covenant, and blah blah blah. They then proceed to rail against homosexuality and erect Ten Commandments monuments in capitol buildings and courthouses. There’s either some serious cherry picking or some erroneous theology going on here. Or both.

3. The devil is a thing. An omnipotent, omniscient god would not have any rivals or equals – he’d not only have the power to defeat any enemy, he’d have the ability to simply not create any for himself in the first place. The bible itself says that god is the one who created evil, in which case he deliberately set a trap for humans with the foreknowledge that many of us would become ensnared, both by the evil tendencies with which he endowed us, and by the collateral damage such individuals create. God either created everything or he didn’t; he either knows all or he doesn’t. If he did and he does, then it is god who is in fact responsible for evil, and Satan is just god’s scapegoat. If he didn’t and he doesn’t, he isn’t much of a god.

4. And speaking of the devil, what’s the deal with hell? “Here is a list of things to never do. If you do any of them, you will be tortured in a pit of fire for all eternity where your organs will be slowly ripped out and eaten by jackals and your eyes pecked out by crows. Unless you grovel to me at the very last possible moment before death, in which case I’ll forgive you for doing the things I forbade you to do under penalty of eternal torment. Actually never mind, just do whatever as long as you don’t skip the groveling part. And make sure you believe in me – like, really, seriously believe, ‘cause that’s where I draw the line. I mean, a deity has to have his pride, right? So list-schmist, just be sure you suck up to me. Or I’ll burn your ass. Forever. Oh, and have I told you lately how much I love you?”

5. Free will isn’t free. Other than the devil, Christians’ favorite rationalization of the ubiquitous evil and suffering in the world is free will. “He gives us a choice to accept him or not. If you choose not to accept him, then you are the one choosing to be evil / go to hell / condemn yourself / damn all of humanity.” Set aside for a moment that an omniscient and omnipotent god would already know who is and is not going to accept him because he is the one who decided for each of us whether we would or not. Set aside the questionable utility of creating people who are already doomed to hell before they are even born. Set aside the questions of disease and natural disaster, which are not brought about by human acts of will. Let’s say for the sake of argument that Adam Lanza, for instance, slaughtered 27 people including 20 little children simply because he was exercising the free will that god gave him. How does that absolve god of any responsibility? Sure, you could say that god didn’t make the murderer do what he did because the murderer had free will, but you can’t say god didn’t stand idly by and let it happen even though he had the power to stop it. If the price of free will is that it can be misused by some to inflict terrifying, painful, violent deaths on innocent children, and that is a price that god is willing to pay, what’s that say about your god.

6. The bible requires interpretation. If the bible is the word of god and if the New Testament is the holy scripture upon which Christianity is based, then that should pretty much seal the deal in terms of what Christianity is all about. “Here’s what god told us to do, now let’s go do it.” Except it hasn’t quite worked out that way, as evidenced by the thousands of sects of Christianity, and the millions of people who vaguely identify as “Christian” in spite of their rejection of the vast majority of what is written in their own scripture. Even more perplexing are Christian claims of bible passages being taken out of context or being allegorical. Conveniently, the parts that Christians often claim are allegorical are the parts that make god look like less than a wonderful, loving father figure, while the parts they claim are literal truth are the ones that resonate – surprise! – with their already closely held biases and beliefs. Intellectual honesty, however, requires that the bible is either all true, or all allegory. If it is all true, then Christians must embrace all of it, including the parts that are unflattering to their lord and savior. If it is all allegory, then there are as many ways of being Christian as there are humans on the planet. Many of us shake our heads at fundamentalists like Ray Comfort and Ken Ham, but in truth, by taking a consistent approach to their interpretation of the bible as a whole, they are more intellectually honest than so-called moderate Christians, who may be more reasonable but are the most egregious cherry-pickers.

7. You have a personal relationship with who? How do you have a “personal relationship” with a man who has been dead for 2,000 years? When you say you “love” Jesus, what emotion is it that you are experiencing given that you have never seen him, spoken with him, or even read his own words? Stranger still, what exactly are you feeling when you say that he loves you back? How is a personal relationship with Jesus different from a personal relationship with Elvis? At least I can look at photographs and films of Elvis and listen to his voice; I can objectively and scientifically prove that he existed, view artifacts that he owned or created, read things that he wrote, and talk to people who knew him when he was alive. From this perspective, a personal relationship with him is by far the more rational one.

8. It’s not fundamentally different from any other mythology. Powerful supernatural being creates world, invents humans, controls nature, lays down rules, arbitrarily disregards own rules, punishes humans for breaking rules, becomes irate at insufficient sycophancy, condemns bad sycophants in heinous ways, rewards good ones in this life or the next or both. Some of the finer details may change, but the basic story arc is more or less the same across the board. Given the overwhelming similarities and the fact that they all have precisely the same amount of evidence to support their truth – which is to say none – it is unclear to me why any one of them can claim to be more legitimate than any other.

9. Explain the holocaust. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

10. Take a look around. Imagine how great the world would be if an omnipotent and omnibenevolent god had made it so that people were kind to each other and behaved responsibly. No one would starve; children wouldn’t get raped or orphaned by war; animals wouldn’t get tortured for sport; natural resources wouldn’t be destroyed and depleted; no one would be homeless or exploited or otherwise suffer at the hands of fellow humans. Creating a world where your children can be happy and fulfilled, where they will never suffer or cause suffering, would be as effortless to such an entity as breathing, and would be the most loving gift any parent could bestow. The god of Christianity, on the other hand, decided to pack humans chock full of selfishness and bad intentions and then stand back and watch thousands years of war, violence, and other mischief unfold while simultaneously reserving his ability to intervene to occasional appearances on toast. Well, okay, in fairness sometimes he appears in mold too.

You sound so proud of your intelligence. But let me say a few things and leave you with a few video clips of people who have been in your shoes but died and miraculously came back to life after having a little glimpse of life after death. All of these people were either atheists like you or unbelievers. The moment they came back from death, they all changed and became born-again. You may want to keep digging up 1000 reasons why God does not exist or why Jesus is not the way, but i can assure you that the moment you step out of your body in death, everything changes. You will suddenly realise the vanity of human philosophy when it comes to the salvation of humans after Jesus Christ has already made a way and showed us the way in the word of God.

The last clip was a pastor who died in 2001. He was in the mortuary for 3 days before he was taken by his wife to Reinhard Bonnke's crusade in Onitsha where he came back to life during the crusade while he was being prayed for. If you doubt, the records are there. He was confirmed dead at Umezuruike Hospital in Owerri. You can lunch your own investigation, trace the hospital where he was confirmed dead, trace the mortuary where he was kept for 3days and trace the people who worked in that mortuary to confirm if the story is true or false, then afterwards come here with your proofs to dispute the story.




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pannyman:
It's fake news. No such thing happened. It's meant for pea-brained people.

That's not the main point. The main issue is that I wasn't there, and you weren't there as well. The issue i have with folks above who have been almost swearing with their lives that such a thing cannot happen in this world where we live is the fact that they are either too naive or outrightly blind. Whoever tells me that witchcraft, demons, angels, God do not exist must be a big blind idiot. Who are they even trying to fool with their stupid delusion? Things most of us see happening every now and then, and they want to tell us such things don't exist. Do you know how many witches and occult men we've seen who confessed with their own mouth about the evil things they've done? Do you know how many yahoo+ guys who have undergone several human sacrifice rituals to acquire power to make money that we have seen? Let me ask you; You think politicians and yahoo+ people who use human beings to make rituals are very daft for them to keep killing human beings if they are not seeing the result of those sacrifices? You think people are joining Ogboni and other cults where human sacrifices are done every day if the people who belong are not seeing things happen? I can't shout. Whoever does not believe the supernatural exists is just a sitting duck for cheap death the day they mistakingly offend the powers that be.

jonbellion:
shut up abeg. It's peoplr like you that are easily scammed. You think everybidt just blindly believes whatever they hear. If we have people why believe they can turn an inanimate object to money then why arw 60% of Nigerians still under the poverty line and moreover why couldn't the dude disappear with the goat after he was done. Yet we wonder why Africa is a 3rd world continent. Abeg dont bother quoting me I won't eveb reply you

Another definition of stupidity is believing that hundreds of people who witnessed an event while it was happening and even recorded it in video are all FOO.L.S , and you who was never anywhere within the vicinity of the event is the very wise man for disproving the possibility of such event happening. It is people like you who will never believe there is a place called hell for you to avoid it through salvation in Christ until you die and see with your eyes when it's already too late to repent. In your mind, you think this world revolves around your myopic philosophy of life, not knowing this world is deeper than the way your tiny mind views things.