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Mickael2:
I agree, after watching these games I do not see Iwobi as an AMF, I see him as a fluid winger who should be allowed to move into the middle at will. If only Onyekuru was in form for us, he would have been my perfect winger because he too can drift into the middle just like Musa, the rest we have are old fashioned wingers

Yeah he could be our Nasri/Hleb.

SlayerForever:
@The bolded: Excellent Point.✅

I personally think Iwobi either as a winger or 10 should work on shooting. That is practically what's remaining.


On the side,imagine a 4-3-3 formation with Mikel as regista,then ahead him the fluidity of Iwobi and Ebere Eze. Good for creating chances,right? Albeit with less cover defensively.

Yep exactly. But Ndidi will cover the defensive side and Iwobi can put in work defensively when he's up for it. Rohr needs to be looking for AMs.

Mickael2:
The problem I see with your lineup is lack of pace in that middle. [/b]Iwobi is the kind of guy that even if he is playing the AMF role he will still like to drift to the flanks and influence play from there but the problem he has is that even when he starts defending, he still sticks to the flank, at some point he was marking Samuel Kalu's man while we were defending and Samuel didn't know what to do hence he started moving from one side to the other to give Iwobi space that is why I have not blamed Samuel for his bad game knowing fully well that it would take a lot of training for him to know when to move central if Iwobi drifts to his wing, even Moses Simon or whoever would have a hard time with Iwobi as our AMF.[b] Then back to your formation, Iwobi's absence then creates a space in the middle because only two players will be pressing in the middle, Etebo to me wasn't that poor because he was pressing for two persons and Ndidi was just sitting back doing almost nothing, just that if he(Etebo) does win the ball back he ends up making the wrong decision but with Mikel in the team I know that it will be reduced but if you remove Etebo for Onazi, is it Onazi or Mikel that will press for two persons?? You could see how the Libyans were easily creating passing triangles in our midfield because we had only two players chasing their 3-4 midfielders, don't forget that those two midfielders were Ndidi and Etebo, workhorses but still the Libyans found it easy, very very easy to get past the two of them and the Libyans aren't even on par with the South Africans when it comes to passing. So just imagine this; superior passing with even less energy in our midfield, that would be suicidal. I still think Iwobi should go back to the left or right flank and Etebo should pair with Onazi, Simon Moses should welcome Samuel to the bench

Partially true. Iwobi is used to playing with the likes of Ozil, Mkhitaryan, even Ramsey who also drift around to find space. I think he works well as an AMF when Musa plays outwide because Musa sometimes drifts to the middle while Ighalo go wide(still makes me laugh when people think Ighalo is a old school target man). This is why we need another AM...Eze, Onomah, etc...we need those kind of technicians not this B2B/DM fetish Rohr has been exhibiting.

Joebie:
White Amodu abi?

Loool nah. Amodu would've never lost to SA in UYO. He'd rather play 8 defensive players and get a goalless draw than lose.

Bolowolowo:
Ladies and gents, remember when our Eagles played like this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OqESvD2gGM






P.S. : Hopefully we can play in Abuja again

Amodu was sort of like Rohr...results over everything. He had a great record but our style of play was crap sha.

SlayerForever:
Considering his performance for both club and country: Iwobi on the wings or Iwobi as the 10. Which will be of more benefit to the national team? @edi247.

He's better off as a 10 with us because we don't have the players with the technical ability Arsenal does. He can play as an inverted winger if we have midfielders that are fluid and drift around. I thought Etebo could do that but I don't know anymore.
Sha I know if Mikel comes back, Rohr might still push him out to the left.

Like Tbaba said, lets just celebrate Ighalo's rich vein of form. All these talks are getting boring.

I loved this second goal...it put this ridiculous myth of him being a old fashioned target man to rest. The dribbling which some doubted he has showed.

BascoVanVeli:
4-3-3 my SA lineup

Gk Uzoho
RB Shehu
CB Leon
CB Ekong
LB Collins
DMF Onazi
CMF Mikel
AMF Iwobi
RWF Moses
CF Ighalo
LWF Musa

I dropped Etebo but I feel he can play a role off the bench as first sub for Mikel or Iwobi

Good line up. You could still start Etebo and move Iwobi to the left or play Etebo on the wings which isn't something new to him.
Etebo despite his inconsistency brings energy to our mid...with Ndidi out injured, we'll need that energy more than ever.

Joebie:
I think if Nigeria meets a team at par with us in terms of talents, the better tactical manager will carry the day. Rohr might be able to do well among African teams, butI doubt him improving outside Africa.

Baxter outclassed him at Uyo. The WC told me all i needed to know about Rohr. but hey - dude is getting the points so its whatever i guess

SlayerForever:
I saw Etebo's performance today. Most times he looked like he just wasn't scratching it. If he continues this way. The conclusion may just be that he's not good enough. Looking forward to us drafting in better quality in that midfield right there. Eze of QPR looks like an interesting prospect. If we're going to be playing two DMFs going forward,we need better quality in that position. Probably in the mold of a Regista (or at least someone growing into one)

Etebo is too bloody inconsistent. I once said he reminded me of Ramsey. Jack of all trades, master of none.
I love seeing dude carry the ball and breeze pass people but his inconsistency is getting annoying. Someone needs to slap his agent for that Stoke move ESPECIALLY before a WC. Very daft move...

SlayerForever:
No disrespect to the players but. . .


You know the combination of Mikel Etebo Ndidi follow in what killed us in Russia bah?

It worked when Mikel played as a regista. It's not bad if the positioning is right

tbaba1234:
Let us just be happy that he is scoring.

When he was not scoring, the only people getting nightmares were Nigerian fans not CBs.

na wa oo

He may not be world class, but Ighalo is the best option we have up top.
When he isn't scoring, he's hustling and being a nightmare for CBs.
I'm happy he's back to form

Taliban:
My naïve conclusions from this game;

Aina was a liability.
Kalu still a lot of work to do
Etebo-Ndidi-Iwobi not the dream midfield trio.

Ogu brought freshness and stability to the midfield but baba don old small and he's kind of slow. Perhaps a midfield of Ogu-Ndidi and iwobi could work or maybe the terrier himself, Onazi.

We desperately need a controller. Unless we play a 4-3-3 with Ndidi - Ogu - Etebo with Iwobi on the left.
When Mikel comes back - we'll go back to Mikel - Ndidi - Etebo with Iwobi outwide.

tbaba1234:
Gernot Rohr is too experienced to be wasting time with substitutions..

I've told you guys this guy is hyper conservative.

Afobear:
A good day in the Office for me ..... Averageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee3eeeee3eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Team for a reason !!!

Now what were you saying again Back to hiding you go

Ighalo with a goal and an assist. Just caught a glimpse of Musa's goal. Disappointing goal to concede.
Let's end this game second half

somehow:
Because of this, Everton is better?

No Everton are better because they have better players than Bordeaux.

MetalJigsaw:
You keep misquoting me... Can Rashford make the Arsenal team yes or no? I never mentioned him benching Auba and co.

Of course not. He can't.

krattoss:
are u saying number 10 jersey isn't adorned in different teams?
People that wears the number 10 jerseys re prospects looked up for greatness.. Sometimes they flop.
most times it's the best player in the team that is privileged to adorn the 10 jersey..

What are u even insinuating?
Number 10 jersey is a guard of honour just like the captain armband so anyone wearing it must be quality prospect.

What are you and @metaljigsaw talking about?? Has anyone on here denied Kalu's talent?? The argument was can he make Everton's first 11?? How him jersey number take enter argument?? Most people wanted Kalu to be at the last WC as an alternative to Moses Simon...no one is doubting his talent.

MetalJigsaw:
Now, I'm only concerned about the person that liked this your funny post. You still haven't answered my question.

By the way, can't Rashford make the arsenal team¿

Who is Rashford going to bench?? Auba or Laca??
You made the jersey number post as a way to show Kalu's ability. I never said he wasn't talented...just that he can't make the first 11. That's MY argument.

krattoss:
The way some niggas here castigates their own still baffles me.
The other day some peeps were forming Oliver twist on why we didn't spell seychelles on their home soil, citing how southies spelled 6 past them..

Now after all.. Seychelles wasnt a walk over on their home soil, but we manged to put 3 past them.

Value ur own.. Or else no one won't.. Make una dey here dey form online analysts and keep on castigating all u got.. When the world comes shitting on y'all.. Y'all I'll start crying racism bla bla bla shiits... Mofos

Patriotism doesn't equate lack of objectivity.

MetalJigsaw:
Where did I mention "first eleven" in my post??

You said him wearing the number 10 jersey shows he has the Onions to play at a higher level...and I'm saying it doesn't matter.
I don't think anyone here has ever doubted his talent...just that he can't make Everton's first 11.

khunz:
Seychelles 0 - 0 South Africa- final score after 6mins extra time!

Thank you Seychelles!!!

E don be for Bafunny Bafunny. We'll kill them on the counter come November.

andrew444:
I never said kalu will get into Everton first team

If you watch my quote yesterday,I told that guy that kalu is not even better than yannick bolaise who was sent on loan from Everton

I am just trying to tell you how football works,Everton have better players than Bordeaux No doubt about that,but that doesn't mean Everton will automatically beat them ,apart from those Chelsea Liverpool Arsenal Tottenham and mancity ,Epl teams have always been disgraced in the Europa league ,west ham that even have better players could not make it to the Europa league group stage in 2 attempts against a backwater league team

Burnley could not even beat pass olympiakos to get to the group stage .

Yes no player in Bordeaux will bench Bernard

But if you think Bernard is world class then you don't know what you are saying,even a Malcom who just left Bordeaux for Barca is better than Bernard.

Brazil coach will rather call players from Brazil then to call Bernard

Bernard is not world class but is better than Kalu. Brazil is a team that is so stacked that Firmino struggles to start.
Richarlison would be a star if he played for us, but the guy isn't a guaranteed starter for Brazil.
Everton are a team on the rise. As at this moment, they are probably a top 8 epl team. This is how city started and everyone said they'd never do anything till they eventually cemented their place as a big team.
Arsenal is my favorite club but I'm not really the epl bandwagon type...LA Liga is the best league in the world. Ligue Un has the best young talent but Bordeaux I've watched will not beat Everton...not even their team of last season with Malcom.

superbloke:
I don't know about first 11, but he'll definitely make the bench at least. My opinion. The person that started the argument, in a bid to prop up Lookman, claimed Kalu won't even make the bench. Haha!

Yeah maybe he can make the bench...but first 11?? Make I know...and Samuel Kalu is my boy. Truth is the truth.

MetalJigsaw:
The fact that Kalu is dorning their number 10 jersey clearly suggests he has the onions to represent a much higher team. Take it or leave it.

Going by your logic - Rashford would get into Liverpool, Man City heck even Arsenal's first 11 because he wears the number 10 jersey at Man United.
Mariano is a world class player that can get into all teams in the world bar Barca because he wears the number 7 Jersey of Real Madrid.
Great logic...

jihday:
bros, you sef get energy to argue, just agree Kalu go collect balloon d'or. thank God I watched the game I'd have thought there's something special about the Kalu

I mean don't get me wrong - I'm not saying Kalu isn't a good player. He is but I don't agree he walks in Everton's first 11. No way!!.

andrew444:
So you expect a player to join Bordeaux and leave Everton,everton can offer you 100k pounds weekly and bordeaux will offer you at best 25k weekly,the Epl is rich remember,even Cardiff city will sign a player ahead of Bordeaux.

But sorry bro Epl teams are trash,is it not the same Everton that could not get more than 1 point in the Europa league last season ? They came last in their group,Lyon beat them home and away.

Epl teams are very rich doesn't meant they are better than others in terms of playing.

You think Barcelona will easily buy a player at Everton right ? But Barcelona and others big team will easily buy a player from Lyon and co,Barcelona got Malcom from Bordeaux,I am sure Barcelona will not reason to get a player from Everton .

Who are the best players in Bordeaux na?? Answer me. Tell me the players that will bench Bernard and Lookman from Bordeaux. Funny how none of you have bothered to answer it. Go bring their squad and compare it to Everton.
People will not kill me with laugh. Kalu would get into Everton's first 11 because he plays for Bordeaux.

somehow:
So Everton is better because they can buy Bordeaux player without blinking an eye?

Man City is better than Barcelona then since they can buy Barcelona's players without blinking an eye.

Wait...so if Everton and Bordeaux are dragging for a prospect - you honestly think the prospect will mull things over?? AT 2018?? Look at the players Everton got and tell me the last time Bordeaux got that caliber of players
This is turning into a farce oo. Why use Barca and Man City?? It's more like Man City and Sevilla...that's what Everton is to Bordeaux...

krattoss:
just because u re familiar with EPL doesn't mean other leagues are shiit.
Bordeaux will trash everton and his cohorts any day anytime.

Benerd and lookman still remain amateur to kamano and s. Kalu.

Akuko. Bordeaux will not beat Burnley or even West Ham in the epl. I've watched two of their games. Samuel Kalu at best will warm the bench. Same Kalu I've been following for a while now??
This is the kind of overhyping you'll reply to and people will think you're a hater. Bordeaux will be in the bottom half of epl.

Wait you're comparing Kanamo to Bernard and Lookman Lmaooo make I just keep quiet

krattoss:
neither of the players u called can walk into Bordeaux 1st eleven..
Leipzig not getting lookman do 25 mil donsnt mean shiit.. Clubs has been rejecting bills and huge sums of money for their players for obvious reasons known to them.

Lookman and Bernard walks into their first 11. Who and who is in Bordeaux?? Who is their star player??