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Amedino99:
it's so funny you can't even use stats to prove it.

Aribo started along side Ndidi in the last edition benching Nwakali and even Etebo post AFCON.

Blueelf:
World Cup semi finalist wey fail to pass round of 16

Dey play you hear

The world cup and the AFCON, which is more competitive?

You said, we shouldn't use Morocco as a yardstick.

So I just want to remind you of the achievement of their national team 2yrs ago.

zicky:
Uncle your write up is neither here nor there, Aribo has a better work rate than Onyedika
At bold no body is saying otherwise, what we have in our bench are not poor strickers. I don't have any issue with Osimhen biko, he's a fantastic player, but what I'll not agree is you saying without Osimhen, Nigeria will lose against southy. Nigeria have good stricker to defeat southy any day

This is the AFCON where Morocco who were better than SA got defeated by them.

Aribo has been struggling for game time this season.

Yes,an in form Aribo, works harder than Raph Onyedika.

Blueelf:
When it comes to attack, don't use Morocco as a yardstick. They have a blunt attack. We have far better attackers

Take this to the bank!!

Take a look at what you said I should take to the bank.Did you read this after typing it?

Abeg E don do.

Blueelf:
When it comes to attack, don't use Morocco as a yardstick. They have a blunt attack. We have far better attackers

Take this to the bank!!

Don't use a WC semifinalist as a yard stick?

When last did you even get to the Quarter finals of a WC, not to talk of a Semi-final.

The Super Eagles has never made it past the group stage since they made their World Cup debut.

zicky:
Uncle kc and Moffi can't score in this setup, how many has Osimhen scored in this setup that was made just for him. Bringing up R16 with a different coach and Uzoho abi maduka in goal to buttress your point. I'll say it again God forbid but if Osimhen can't play our next match Nigeria will not lose. You forget Moses and lookman contribute as much as Osimhen in this so called setup you keep calling. You don't even see how Bassey, aina and ekong have been key in this setup, but what you keep saying is if Osimhen don't play Nigeria will lose because he's Messi abi Ronaldo (R7 even sit on the bench for Portugal)

"The best way to defend is to attack".

No team will win a tournament without a good Striker.

Remember Giroud of France in 2018 WC?How many goals did he score?Were there no back up Strikers on the bench?

Giroud started all games in the WC because he was better than other Strikers and suits the coach's playing philosophy.

Have you noticed something with Peseiro's Philosophy of recent?

It's all about high work rate.This is the reason he prefers Frank Onyeka(The tank) to Raph Onyedika.He prefers Yusuf or Aribo as sub for this same reason.

Iheanacho and Moffi lacks the work rate of Osimhen.

Blueelf:
When it comes to attack, don't use Morocco as a yardstick. They have a blunt attack. We have far better attackers

Take this to the bank!!

That your attack no fit qualify you for World Cup against Ghana, but Morocco got to the Semi finals of the same World cup.

zicky:
Uncle as I said before forget this talk, who believe before that iwobi can play this defensive. Maybe if he was not in this tournament person like you will say he can't play under this system. Moffi and kc can play under any system and even play it in a better way that you will end up preferring it to what you are seeing. The team is winning reason why I won't advocate for a change of personnel. But saying we will lose because Osimhen is not playing baba na lie.

Oga we will try them out in the same set-up after the AFCON and it will become obvious that they need a totally different set-up.

Have you ever studied this current pattern and why it suits only VO9?

You will need to change our formation and tactics if you are to start other strikers.

Other Strikers will not be able to score against SA in this current set-up, not forgetting the game against SA in Uyo where Iheanacho started and we were beaten 2-0.

Morocco could not even score this SA team.

You expect Moffi or Iheanacho who will be needing a totally different set-up, with about 2 creative midfielders to be able to score to start.

These other Strikers are not anywhere close to Osimhen.They won't even be able to give an "A" game in this set up.

Try checking the requirements of a 9 in this particular set-up and you will realise that Osimhen Trumps the other by a margin of 30%.

Iheanacho is not as fast as Osimhen.He lacks the work rate of Osimhen.How will he be able to cope?

Don't you know it's Osimhen's pace,movement , aggression,fighting spirit and runs in anticipation of a through ball and ability to get on the ball b4 the opponent(counter attacking attributes) is what makes him better suited for this set-up.

Iheanacho lacks the above qualities.

Moffi comes close but will only give 50% of what Osimhen has given so far.

Please this is the AFCON where Iheanacho and Awoniyi failed to get a goal in the R16 against Tunisia in the last edition.

Most of the chances we claim Osimhen misses, were created by his movement and counter attacking attributes.

We have been playing Strikers with defensive attributes in this set-up, as defending starts from the front.

This is what has brought us far in the tournament.

I rest my case.

zicky:
Uncle as I said before forget this talk, who believe before that iwobi can play this defensive. Maybe if he was not in this tournament person like you will say he can't play under this system. Moffi and kc can play under any system and even play it in a better way that you will end up preferring it to what you are seeing. The team is winning reason why I won't advocate for a change of personnel. But saying we will lose because Osimhen is not playing baba na lie.

He played this same DLP position many times last season for Everton under Frank Lampard.

zicky:
Uncle forget this talk, Nigeria can still win this tournament with or without Osimhen. Yes he's very important to the team but that doesn't make the other strickers less. Team work has been the back bone of this team not one player brilliance. Na southy we dy play, any of the other strickers can come and perform exceptionally well. Personally I want him in the game but saying Nigeria will lose because he's not there, uncle na lie,

We should forget the trophy if anything happens to VO9.

These your other strikers can't play under this system.

Iwobi plays a defensive role(DLP), in this set up.

You will need to change our formation and tactics if you are to start other strikers.

Other Strikers will not be able to score against SA in this current set-up, not forgetting the game against SA in Uyo where Iheanacho started and we were beaten 2-0.

Morocco could not even score this SA team.

You expect Moffi or Iheanacho who will be needing a totally different set-up, with about 2 creative midfielders to be able to score to start.

These other Strikers are not anywhere close to Osimhen.They won't even be able to give an "A" game in this set up.

Blueelf:
I am not saying he isn't an asset

But if you watch SE AFCON games without sentiments and judge all our attacking situations, Osimhen has been the weak link in most of them

It's either he is offside or he balloons the ball wide

But it is a defender (Zaidu Sanusi) that is their problem. Moses Simon who has been playing well has not gotten any recognition because he is not Osimhen

You see bro, I want to point out their hypocrisy that stinks to high heavens

Do you know benching osimhen would throw the Southies off their game plan because it will be unexpected?

Bro, they no dey do experiment for AFCON Semis.

You must continue with the same tactics that got you to the Semis.

Keita's Guinea changed their pattern to accommodate Keita and they lost 3-1 to DR Congo.

Joebie:
You have made a good point. But the point I’ve been making is that you cannot be found out, but remain rigid in the run of play. Yes Peseiro has found a winning formula, but when the opponent counters, can he react? That’s left to be seen. At some point we will need someone to kill the game of Osimhen can’t. And you may also have to tweak things in the midfield. I’m not convinced about Peseiro’s match reading.

We have not conceded since we adopted the 3-4-3 formation in this tournament.

Osimhen can instigate a come-back.

Peseiro has been doing well,it's no fault of his that Yusuf who should have paired Iwobi limped off injured against EQG.

Iwobi and Onyeka has built a very good Chemistry in this tournament, so it's too late to drop either of them.

He has been correct with his defensive subs ,but that of Onuachu is just a sub to hold on to a lead.

Bannedlargedx2:
The problem here is people and their sentimental biased. For example, Zaidu primary responsibility is his defensive duties and thus far, he has been solid defensively while horrible offensively and people are suggesting that, he should be replaced. Similarly, starboy primary responsibility is to score goals and while he hasn’t scored enough goals, he has provided work ethic, hustle, never say die attitude and critics has been kind. As for me, I wouldn’t drop starboy but would start replacing him earlier if he doesn’t start scoring. You cannot have potent finishers like Iheanacho, moffi on the bench without giving them a chance if your main striker isn’t scoring. In our analysis, let all of be partial

Iheanacho will not see those chances like Osimhen in this set-up.He lacks the work rate and pace and will require a change of formation.

Please stop hyping this guys on the bench.

Joebie:
Osimhen is an asset to any team whether he scores or not.

But it’s okay to bench him in some situations

Bench him in a tournament, where he has contributed to 75% of the goals scored by our team in this tournament.

You seem to over rate the strikers on the bench.Onuachu has not even recorded a shot on target and has always killed our counters, whenever he comes on.

Most of the strikers you want in the starting line-up, require creative/advanced mid-fielders , not this kind of set up.To accommodate them you will need to change to a midfield 3.We can't do that because, you can't change a winning team.

kennysville:
Apparently you missed my context. but here it is. Remember that before now once a team scores first against Naija, its distress football from then on. We have soldiered on for 5 games at least and thus far we can say we been good. But this isnt group stage anymore where you have a chance at redemption. I will cite 2 instances where chasing odd goal was not easy to come back from. Naija vs Tunisia in the last afcon. 2nd one is Naija vs ghana in Abuja. We saw how difficult it was for us to put in the 2nd goal. Stakes are higher now in that you get eliminated if you dont take your chances. We know no one has scored against us since, not because they havent tried to score. Complacency is all it takes and boom, the midget floors the giant. Thats when almost stories will start .... if we had, if we had.

No one has scored us yet shouldnt be a yardstick to measure how we are doing. For one, we have improved from being docile to being fighters. We cant have hurriedly forgotten how we lost.... sorry I mean drew 2 World Cup qualifier games. Thank God for injuries to certain individuals, do we think Peseiro would have changed his tactics? He found his team because situation necessitated it.


Thats the point I am raising. Please seek to understand not reply

We play a 3-4-3, relying on creativity from the wings.

Iwobi who is the most creative player, plays as a DLP.This is the reason, he has barely 3 key passes in this tournament.When asked he said Peseiro changed his role to a defensive one.

It's Osimhen pace on the counter,aggression,off the ball movement in anticipation of a through pass or long ball and shooting that makes him see those chances.

Other strikers on the bench will struggle to see those kind of chances.Osimhen tries his best to get to a long ball before the opponent central defenders.His is better suit for this tactics due to his willingness to get to any ball b4 the opponent.An Onuachu and Iheanacho can't.Moffi will only offer little.

You want other strikers to start complaining of poor creativity from midfield and isolation upfront because they lack Osimhen's skill set.

Our current tactics and strategy is only suited for Osimhen.Other strikers will struggle in this current tactics.

If I may ask, Have you ever pondered why Onuachu has never mustered one shot on target?

All this"bench Osimhen, bench Osimhen".

You sure say no be front page I dey so?

In a tournament, you don't change a winning team, strategy and formation.

Osimhen is very important to the way we play.None of Moffi or Iheanacho can give us 60% of what Osimhen does.

Our current tactics requires a Striker with electric pace, with high work rate and energy to burn, who will always keep defenders on their toes making them defensive conscious.

If I may ask, how many goals has Moffi scored this season? He is even operating from the right(RW) of late for OGC Nice.

Iheanacho couldn't score or assist against Tunisia in the round of 16 of the last edition.

Every Central defender who has been facing us has always prepared for Osimhen.

Osimhen torments them non-stop for 80 good minutes, with his aggression,rage,pace,off the ball and on the ball movement and his shots on target.

He scored against EQG,won the PK against CIV,his off the ball movement in anticipation of a cross forced a GNB defender into scoring an owngoal.He assisted Lookman for the first goal against Cameroon.

Remove Osimhen from this team and see our opponents attack in numbers because their biggest threat is gone.

It's not Lookman who is our biggest threat upfront, but Osimhen.Even our opponent Coach Hugo Broos, will consider Peseiro a very big fool if he drops Osimhen.

You want him to drop Osimhen,so Onuachu can start baaa? Nawa for una.

Please let no one change this team,I love their selflessness so far.

codemaniacs:
Osimhen will not come good.

He couldn't score against Ghana and qualify SE for the world cup...

By now you should accept the fact that Osimhen struggles against good African teams and he may be used as a super sub.

Leave Aina on the left and put lookman on the right so that they can cross to the main striker.

Aina showed he can cross accurately with his left leg so moving him to the right is foolishness.

Lookman start on the RW while chukwueze is benched.

No sane coach will drop Osimhen.He brings more than just scoring to the table.

He scored against Equatorial Guinea, won a penalty against Cote d'Ivoire and his runs into space caused the owngoal scored against Guinea Bissau.

Stats can be truly deceptive.

yinkeys:
Can someone please tell Jose Peseiro to start Terem Moffi
He can bring in Osimhen at 60 mins
Let another person have a go
Missing too many chances will cost us the tournament
Coach should try Moffi or if he doesn’t like him or they’re beefing maybe Onuachu because I don’t understand again o
I don’t know the type of football we played today
Samuel Osayi was below par

No be so oo, no striker in this team can give us 60% of what Osimhen does upfront.

Just play Iheanacho on the right and the goals will come.Chukwueze and Moffi can come from the bench.

Joezinho:
Our over reliance on Osimhen might cost us at the end. If he continues misfiring, we are going to get kicked out of the tournament.

We have had coaches that gave other forward chances and they took it!! Aghahowa in 2000. Osaze in 2004. Give moffi or onuachu the chance to start.

Why are we so fixated on a striker who probably left his scoring boots in naples? Now they are coming up with weird excuses.
"He is a fear factor." "His aura made the defender score his own goal." Bleh bleh. Defenders are now aware he is markable and they are gonna mark him out!! Shey defenders come play for this tournament?

They would have nailed Paul or Chuks on the cross for missing such strikes.

The only change we should be making to the starting line-up is Iheanacho for Chukwueze.

daveP:
This means it is majorly Peseiro problem.

Like 70% on coach
30% on players
Because how we have so much chances and not finishing them in sleek mode needs studying. Osimhen should work on his offside. But that Zaidu goal should not have been chalked off.

We will give headache because we sabi prevent scoring. But if they hack how to stop our main man, who steps up? That's the fear.

In order to get to the semi finals of the tournament, Iheanacho needs to take Chukwueze's position on the right.

Icon4s:
See, the way this Nigerian team is setup we will give any team in this AFCON headache

Sir, since Osimhen has been wasteful infront of goal and Chukwueze sub par, I think it would be nice to start Iheanacho on the right, as he is the most clinical finisher in our squad.

Lookman plays more like an AML/LSS behind Osimhen, coming into the midfield instead of staying wide.I expect Iheanacho to play similar role (AMR/RSS) on the right.He is expected to play behind Osimhen on the right while coming into the midfield.

Depending on Iheanacho's performance, we can explore the possibility of seeing Moffi on the right as a sub, a position he plays for OGC Nice.

I love our 3-4-3 so far, it made us look compact in defense with the inclusion of Nwabali.We are now looking like a tournament team.

Pls I would love to see Onyedika and Iheanacho come on from the bench and maybe Terem Moffi in the final 20mins of the game.


Pls we should be more attack minded against this team.

Raph. Onyedika for Aribo.

Iheanacho for Chukwueze.

Moffi for Osimhen in the last 20mins.

Nigeriagood:
he played two minutes

This same stuff affecteɗ Simy Nwankwo's chances of getting enough game time in 2018 WC, even though he had 8 goals in his last 8 games in the Series A b4 the WC in Russia.

Our style of play doesn't suit bean pole strikers.

Most players with high centre of gravity tend to be slow.

EEGA:
I used the word "Most".

Our style of play doesn't suit bean pole strikers.

komekn:
How tall is Haaland and would you call him slow ?

komekn:
How tall is Haaland and would you call him slow ?

I used the word "Most".

Our style of play doesn't suit bean pole strikers.

It's not just Onuachu. It affected Simy Nwankwo's chances in 2018 WC in Russia, even though he was in form with his club Crotone in the Series A that season.

komekn:
KC cannot play wing he neither has the pace or the technical ability required and 1V1 & 1V2 dominance required. Tella is much better.

when Peseiro plays him there, he plays him as an AMR(right attacking midfielder) not necessarily a wing forward.

Nigeriagood:
he played two minutes

He played for more than 56 mins in 2019 AFCON and was ineffective(couldn't get us a goal).Back then he was the top scorer of the Belgian Jupiter League.Ighalo came in and scored in less than 20mins.


Onuachu has only one goal since his Super Eagles debut and you want him to start?

Nigeriagood:
Onuachu is not slow

Why did you think he struggled in Southampton last season?

It's because most mid-table team/teams who want to stay above the relegation zone adopt counter attacking system of play.

Nigeriagood:
Onuachu is not slow

Most players with high centre of gravity tend to be slow.

How many through balls was he able to use?

Was he able to get a shot on target or off-target from a counter?

We play fast attacking football under peseiro, relying heavily on the pace of our front three.

Mujtahida:
But when he does?

For this tournament Iheanacho will have to compete with Chukwueze and Simon for a position on the Right wing or he will be like a super sub in this tournament.

Please for subsequent games, it will be wrong to sub in Onuachu except we want to hold on to a lead.

We play counter attack/attacking football under peseiro, so we need fast forwards not an Onuachu who is slow.

Terem Moffi would have been a better sub if we needed another goal.

Mujtahida:
Iheanacho is our most clinical striker. Would not miss as much chances as Osimhen has so far missed.

He would not even see most of the chances,as the opponent defenders will get the ball before him.

Osimhen's aggression,pace and ability to get to a through ball before the opponent defenders makes him an asset in counter attacking situation.