₦airaland Forum

Ugomba:
your true nature is coming out. I am suspecting you to be Mgbejiume an ika benin slave like that.
Only jobless people do that kind of argument in a facebook group, if ikas are tired of being in Anioma, they can leave the coinage.
Anioma is a political coinage, before that, we registered and are köwn as Western Igbos and later Delta or Bendel Igbos.
On slave jibe, Ask urself why Ancient Benin did not dare their expansionism toward Igbo hinterlands, which kingdom conquered Igboland in history for u to talk of slaves? But many Ikas were descendants of Benin slaves who escaped and ran into Agbor and Owa areas, they began to assimilate with the Igbo aboriginals just like the Olukumis who were slaves escapees.
Can you tell me why there is Agbor in Delta, Abia and Imo, why are the dialect of the Agbors is similar to owerri dialect?
Mr joker! Ika tribe my foot. Don't bring ur crap to our ogwashi ukwu land.

Fratermathy is only being vindictive because of the way I tackled the Urhobos earlier on this thread and one other thread. I've been seeing his comments about Anioma on this forum and he sounded completely different here.

Ikas are part of Anioma along side Enuani and Ukwani. Ika can only pull out of the Union if a reasonable number of Enuani people try to drag the whole Anioma into the Igbo fold. So far, majority of Enuani identify as Anioma and want a unify Anioma Ethnic Nationality of closely related groups. Even the Enuanis that identify with Igbo do that individually but still believe more on the Anioma Ethnicity. Example is Emeka Esogbue and the Convener of Anioma Voice. Emeka accept having Igbo ancestry but doesn't believe Anioma to be Igbos same way an Ugbodu man accepting having Yoruba ancestry will not make him call Aniomas a Yoruba group.

Bini didn't advance Eastward because we Aniomas being great warriors prevented them from doing that. We fought series of war with Binis. You must be really stupid to ask why Aniomas would fight Bini if truly we're from their. Even Binis fight themselves that ancient times. Everything gets achieved and settled by War. Most Ika Kingdoms were founded by Bini royalties and warriors that left because of power tussle going on in Bini at different times in history. Nothing like slavery in Ika. Even Olukumis are slaves? You have a big problem. Bini was a warrior Kingdom with lots of tyrant rulers. Even people that remained in Bini were treated badly not to talk about the ones that left the kingdom to found other Kingdoms closeby. Do you know Oba Ozolua? Where was he killed? Wasn't he killed in Esan land during the Bini/Esan wars? Or you also want to tell me Esans are not Edo because they fought the Bini? Non of your point is reasonable so far.

I've never heard of Agbor in those places but do you know the original name of Agbor? We're those places originally called Agbon? Do you know there is another Agbon in Urhobo land? What is the meaning of the Agbor in those places? Does it have any close meaning with my own Agbor? Can you tell me why there Owa in Delta, Owa in the East and Owa in Ogun State? Can you tell me why there is Asaba in Delta and Asaba in Osun State? Can you tell me why some people in Ondo bear Okoro as name? Don't ever ask any stupid questions here anymore if you're so dumb. Is this the so called Ugomba? I even thought it was somebody reasonable.

Ugomba:
A deluded man is a joke.
Seperate tribe my foot, go and tell that to the urhobos, isokos, itsekiris, ijaws, yorubas etc.
Keep ur confused identity in ikaland, we don't want it in Aniocha. Thanks

Wow, you must be a big fool to think people's opinion about you matters more than what you call yourself. And who told you all these people you mentioned call us Igbos? The enlightened and intelligent ones know the difference. So Urhobos and Edo have turned to an Igbo because an Aboki can't differentiate between them and Igbo? Or does the fact that we down south call all Northern groups Hausa turned them to Hausa? Please go get your sense from where you forgot it at

Ugomba:
total gibberish. So ur source of confirmity is a facebook group? Are you dumb or what?
So the likes of Pat utomi, Achuzie, Elumelu, Pa Okonjo our obi, even Asagba of Asaba etc who are pro-Igbo are not a confirmity to you.
Listen up, Even in the midst of binis, Ikas are like slaves and intruders to them. Many ikas are descendants of Runaway Benin Slaves who escaped. I have the documents to back this up.
Forget this thrash of concorted history u bini slaves parade around.
Keep it in ur Ikaland. An Ogwashi ukwu man is a freeborn, we are not battling with inferiority complex like you guys.
Speak for urself and ur irrelevant ikas. Thanks

No, Facebook is not my source of anything but being that our point of contact is online and the only way we can have a group of people airing their opinions synchronously or asynchronously is through groups or forums that's why I suggested that. No doubt we have some pro Igbo Enuani people and but majority of Enuanis are pro Anioma. This is my point. Pro Anioma in the sense that they're advocating Anioma as an Ethnic nationality because we're so heterogeneous and we've never really had anything to do with Igbo even from pre colonial and colonial era. If you are so much in love with Igbo, I think you'll have to pack up your things and run to the East because Anioma ethnicity has come to stay.

Majority of Ika Kingdoms were founded by Edo Royalties and warriors. Igbos are the slave here and anybody identifying with the Igbos is definitely a slave

Balkan:
my brother, you are a piece of shit before a Bini man. You are not regarded as human before them.

You guys are just poo

The whole of Anioma still has good relationship with Bini and no part of Anioma is claiming to be Bini. We're a separate ethnic nationality different from Bini and Igbo. Even in 1936, Ika kings wrote to the British they're a separate ethnic group independent of Igbo or Bini and that still stands till date. Well, continue with your consolatory statement if that's what makes you happy.

Ugomba:
pls next time speak for your ika people alone, my ogwashi ukwu and the whole Aniocha/Oshimili are not interested in ur benin crap. I am a proud Delta-Igbo, my ogwashi ukwu have nri root. Speak for urself, benin slave
I see how desperate you are to lick benin ass due to inferiority complex, you are still like a slave to them.
Benin know themselves, continue to deceive yourselves but leave the Aniochas out of it.. We know our roots.
That guy you quoted is an urhobo
Urhobos, Itsekiris, Binis, Isoko, Ijaws see and address ikas as Igbos.
That is how it will be forever.
Keep ur identity crisis in ikaland, we don't want it in Aniocha or Oshimili.
@Fratermathy. Nice comment, ignore those Ipobs and this benin slave wannabe that I quoted.

I don't speak for my Ika alone because in the Anioma cultural groups I belong to, people from Enuani are majority and they don't see themselves as Igbo. Go to Anioma Facebook groups also and you'll get a clue how majority of it's members are Enuani and don't see themselves as Igbos. Majority of Enuani clans have Bini, Igala and Igbo origin almost evenly distributed. Even Asaba, Illah and many neighboring villages are Igala. are Even the precious Ogwashi Uku you're talking about has Bini aborigines which is the Ikelike people according to Ogwashi intelligence report. I'm not a Bini man you fool. Ika as well as other Aniomas have good relationship with Bini. Obi of Isele Uku that went to see the Oba before coronation is not an Ika king

Scholes007:
You should have not brought up topics on cultures you know little to nothing abt. U don't talk about things of sure nature with limited knowledge like urs. Take abt things u know about.

I have a lot of knowledge about everything I talked about.

iSlayer2:
You and your ilk must be crazy. A group of drooling imbeciles who are Igbo without doubt,go about telling the world that they're from Benin with no sensible proof to back it up. Even when they look drooling stupid in making this claims they're so wasted psychologically that they can't help but say we're from Benin". You and your likes are drooling imbeciles. Your fellow imbeci!e is talking of Ikenga,an Igbo traditional niche and ascribing it to Benin,in the process corrupting the word to Ikega, a Benin word with a whole different pronunciation and meaning from Ikenga,just to suit your psychotic Benin urge, can't​ you see he's just a very big fool like you. Everything that comes from your mouth is Benin origin whereas the real Benin despise you lot with their lives because they know you all are sick. I close my eyes and picture a scenario where the Benin and your drooling imbeciles of a people find themselves locked in one country together,just the two groups,with your fellow imbeciles in minority. The Benin will so overtly and ruthlessly marginalize you guys,I don't​ think you'll last 2 generations even if you and your ilk stick your tongue into Bini's asses all the way to their large intestines. Tufia! You and your drooling clan's people are subhuman before me. I spit again. Now get out from my mention,anu ofia!

You just sound pained without making any point. Binis despise us? You must be crazy. Binis and Esans are not best to friends but that doesn't change the fact that they're related. What's the meaning of ikenga cult and what does ikega mean in Bini language? Don't let your ignorance blind you.

fratermathy:
@Bantudra: You nor try for this thread at allll!

You have brought nothing but insults to us... All for what? To assert a point that UPU has already done?

Even if you must, make it an Urhobo affair. Urhobo-Isoko has no business with Anioma or any other group in the Delta.

The way you are taking this Biafra matter personal is kind of suspicious. Urhobos are not known for this level of obsession.

Oshare, vwo da dio 'hwo r'Urhobo, biko yanji thread na vwo. Vwon yobo me ta na?

All I see in you is double standard. You're quick to deny that you're not Bini despite speaking an Edoid language while labeling Anioma Igbos because some parts of Anioma speak Igboid languages. Even after explaining to you how much different we are from them. 11 languages are spoken in Anioma. Even your Urhobo and Isoko are spoken in some places around Ukwani. . Yoruba, Igala and little Esan in some Enuani areas and Agbor Kingdom speaks two languages (Ika and Edo ) distributed among the 11 villages. 2 local government areas in Edo have lots of Ika speaking communities. If you're ignorant about Anioma please learn now. And please when responding to these Igbos don't mention Anioma. We've said it time without number that Anioma is a Nation with many closely related tribes ethnic groups. So please respect yourself and heed my advice.

This has been thrashed and the reason it happened has been reviewed.

iSlayer2:


Twaddle.

why must you keep on acting like a lunatic? Why not respond to his points or fvck off from here?

Scholes007:
Making fallacious statements is not going to solve any problem, but will only lead to permanent deceit. You cannot because of ur limited knowledge on something and make baseless conclussions.

what's this one talking about? Why not write in clear sentence instead of throwing jibes

hammerF:
So many of u are destined to be wasted on the way but wat is certain is Yoruba on its own is big enough in land mass and population to be a country of ugly people.

I say that becos yorubas always refer to themselves as ugly for reasons best known to them .

Today we heard tha OBJ wife have issued a court order to stop her son marrying a yoruba girl. Could it be that the girl was also fathered by OBJ?

This is the consequences of baby mama, scattered everywhere, involuntary incest.

My brother, like the post u quoted states, IKA and Rivers will never be abandoned for neither Afonja in the far west or Aboki in the far North.

Both Rivers and Ika in Delta hold regular Biafra protest, to say the least, they hold membership of Ohanaeze, IPOB and MASSOB, they are full blooded igbo people.

They have only learnt to use the we are not igbo to deceive beggars like u. Always begging igbo.

You better cure your delusion. Or maybe you deliberately want to spread falsehood

hammerF:
I dont use igboid to refer to IKA, I refer to dem as Igbo.

Ever catch this man without his red cap? Wat statement is he making with the red cap?

I dont know wat is wrong with yorubas or y they dont value their self but all i know is that we will not leave any of our people.

We will not even hold referendum in IKA and Rivers. The referendum will be for non-igbo speakers.

Is Igbo the owners of the red cap? Do you know the history surrounding how Igbos started using the red cap? What about the Hausas and the Middle Beltans that use it? Are they Igbo too? That cap is a Moroccan Fez and has nothing to do with Igbo. Please cure your ignorance.

Fratermathy, which is the important thing here?argument being futile or it's being the truth? Are you one of those that try to cover the truth because it's not pleasant to you? Or you're simple prejudiced?

Ngozi123:
Saving this quote in case you try to change it. I didn't really believe it when they said that you're not an Anioma man in that other thread but this all but confirms it for me .

Weren't you the poster that said that Anioma people don't speak Igbo in that other thread, or am I mistaken? Now you're saying that that's the only thing that links them to other Igbos...

As for the rest of the bolded... I truly am shocked that someone could even come out with such a statement.
Cc: Ikechu10, Pazienza, Blues2022, Kathmandu, Igboid et al.

maybe you mistook me for someone else. I've never denied that majority of Anioma speak Igboid languages. 11 languages are spoken in Anioma but the majority is Igboid. Read my other comments to understand more about my explanation on languages and dialects, language shift, endangerment and language extinction. And how you don't use only language to group ethnicity. The predominant culture in Anioma is Edoid, followed by Igboid and Igala then Yoruba, Urhobo and Isoko. People are just too ignorant but never takes correction

ConqueredWest:
What does Ika mean in Bini language.?

What does Anioma mean in Bini language.?

The name undoubtedly started from the Bini Royal House. The Binis were the first to call us Eka until the name became very popular and stuck. This is a well-known fact.
According to Eguavon, S.I. Eka (Ika) means deserters from Benin because of the bloody rule of Oba Ewuare about 1440 AD. It is said that the Binis who seized the opportunity of Oba Ewuare’s absence to flee from Benin were given this name Eka by Oba Ewuare, who on his return from one of his military campaigns, found that many of this subjects had deserted him. It was then he remarked sagaciously: So ghai Eka no. “Leave them, they are deserters”.

During this period for example, Oba Ewuare lost his only two sons, Ezuware and Ekpoboyuuwa through poisoning on the same day. To show hi grief for the death of these princes, he declared three years of mourning for them. During these years of mourning, he ordered that no one was to marry, and those who were married should not have sexual intercourse within the period. He also ordered that there should be no bathing and shaving of hair during the period. Those who were of marriageable age then fled Benin Kingdom in order no to prohibited from raising up families.

Generally, there were political and social disturbances and unrest during the period. The rulers were powerful and overbearing, and there was no known punishment that they could not mete out to offending subjects. Some were forcely charged and dealt with. Life and property were insecure in the face of political uncertainties that existed in Benin Empire. Since there was social disorder, the conditions became unbearable in Benin Empire, which resulted in migration spree of adventurous subjects.

However, on settlements in the areas now known as Ika, some of the Ika clans claim to have been formed before the movement of people from Benin and Ishan Divisions to Ika Land, and these are Agbor, Owa and Umuned clans. It may be that deserters or Ika not only swelled the population of the already existing settlements but also formed new settlements. Ika appears to have grown as a result of the influx of immigrants from Benin, Ishan and Aniocha areas of the defunct Bendel State. Ika people came to Ika Land in different waves of migration, led buy different persons from different directions at different times for different reasons.


Anioma is an Acronym. Don't be silly and Stop asking for a meaning of an Acronym in Igbo or Bini. The Acronym was coined by a pro Igbo Anioma man but we accepted because we see it as an Acronym that with good meaning having all parts of Delta North on it.

Bridget95:
I don't like blind aguement, because the civil war propaganda still runs in the vains of so many.My ethnic group is big and viable.The name Anioma is an igbo word not a beni word.Anioma=Good land. Ika=Great or you are great. These few words are pure igbo words.Those places are igbo.Hear words like Ika-igbo,Delta igbo and I find it amusing.These people keep confusing themselves. The beni man knows you are not beni but igbo because he can't understand you but only igbos can yet there is this irritating attachment to beni mentality. The fact remains that not every one believes that and others are begin to get enlightened.

This also shows how ignorant you are. Anioma was gotten from an Acronym and an artificial creation. How does that make it Igbo? And you have given an Igbo Meaning to Ika? Wow. So Igbotic. The right spelling is Eka and not Ika and it has Bini origin. I know you will give another Igbo Meaning now that the right spelling has been reviewed, which shows you don't even know what you wrote in the first place.

fratermathy:
Ethnopolitics is common to all groups in Nigeria. It is not an Urhobo affair alone. Even within the Anioma region, you can find ethnopolitics among the various groups. So don't make this an Urhobo problem. As far as I am concerned, Urhobos are very accomodating to other ethnicities and that is even the only reason Okowa is in power. Do not forget that Okowa's god father is Ibori, an Urhobo!

The Urhobos, Ijaws and Itsekiris were shortchanged by Babaginda. It is normal for them to feel the pain. However, if the Anioma had had the population that Urhobos have, what you complain of today would be what we would be complaining of. Take a cue from the case of Ikwerre in Rivers State that has refused to relinquish power to the Ogonis and Ijaws. Urhobo has even allowed power rotation for the sake of equity! You know this!

The issue of the capital is a logical argument. Let us remove politics and ethnicity aside, is Asaba the best place to site a State Capital? Asaba is geographically closer to Anambra State than it is to Delta State. It is on the fringe of the State. Considering the multiethnic nature of the state, IBB would have located the capital at the centre of the state, somewhere between Obiaruku, Abraka, Kwale, Orogun, or Ozoro. We have a right to be angry at what he did. If the capital had been at Patani, the southernmost fringe of the state, would the Aniomas be happy?

Now imagine the scenario of Ijaws in Gbaramatu spending 9 hours or more to get to their capital to see the governor? Is it normal? This was even why a State Government House Annex was built in Warri. Sadly, Okowa hardly uses it like the former governors did.

Sometimes put yourself in people's shoes. Given the opportunity, Anioma would never let any Urhobo rule the state. You and I know that. The Urhobos have left Aniomas rule and you still complain?

As for those criticising Okowa, it is not an issue of tribalism. Urhobos also criticised and hated Uduaghan and even Ibori, before deifying him. Don't read ethnic sentiments to everything. It makes you nothing but a tribalist!


As for the issue of Igbo heritage, I stand resolute that Anioma people speak variants of Igbo. Whether or not they are Igbos is left for them to say but they cannot deny the fact that they speak an Igboid language. If we are consequently to use the Sapir-Whorf theory of linguistic and cultural relativity, we can say that since the Aniomas speak Igboid dialects, they must maintain the Igbo cultural outlook. It is hard to divorce language and culture. In any case, you guys have the right, by virtue of self-determination, to assert your own identity and ethnicity.

There's difference between criticism and hateful condemnation. I can read between the two. They don't just criticize but condemn him and his people opening old wound. Urhobos didn't allow Okowa become governor. They ganged up and fought with all their might and lost. Yes, Ibori is a friend of Anioma and a man of his word. Though he's a criminal just like every other politician, we love him for his integrity. Okowa won the 2007 PDP primary against Uduaghan but he reached an agreement with Ibori and Uduaghan to step down for Uduaghan until 2015. That's not easy an easy decision but he agreed because of the trust he has for Ibori. When it was time for the 2015 election, Urhobos went against Okowa even after knowing he's Ibori's anointed candidate. That's just politics for you. But now that the election is over, they should let sleeping dog lie and prepare for next election. That's just my point.

Yes, the capital of Delta State shouldn't be in Asaba but it ended up there. I noted that I understand how painful it must feel.

As for Anioma speaking a variant of Igbo. Yes, majority of Anioma towns speak Igboid languages but Anioma is not Bilingual or monogenous. 11 languages are spoken in Anioma. Even Urhobo, Isoko and Ijaw are spoken in some Ukwani parts. Orogun is partly Anioma and partly Urhobo. Igala and o Yoruba is spoken in some Enuani clans while 5 villages in Agbor are Edo speaking. Agbor has 11 villages, 6 are Ika speaking and the remaining 5 are Edo speaking. Some of the 5 Edo speaking villages are losing their dialect to Ika but some still retain it eg. Ozanogogo and some others. Ika language itself is a mixture of Bini, Esan and Igbo though most of our Edo are fast getting replaced by Igbo. Many of the Enuani groups are of Igala origin, some Edo, some Igbo and thers Yoruba. Even Asaba, Illah and surrounding villages are Igala origin. Ika is mostly Bini, Esan and little Ndokwa Ukwani and Enuani. Other Anioma groups also have some Ika migrations. Ukwani has lots of intermigration from Urhobo Isoko area. We're just too heterogeneous to group us into one group. But one thing worthy of note about Anioma is that all Anioma groups, clans and villages have Edo and Igbo influence irrespective of where the original founders came from eg. Igbusa and Ogwashi Uku are the main Anioma clans that have Igbo origin but they also have villages that migrated from Bini. Illah is Igala but some villages there are Bini descendant.

Ika is a language of it's own and not a dialect of any language. Listen to what a linguist has to say

"A language is a dialect with an army and navy. His point being that the difference between a language and a dialect was ultimately a political distinction and had little to do with linguistics per se. Thus, German and Dutch are separate languages, but Mandarin and Meixian Chinese are supposed dialects" this being said, you can see that citing a linguistic theory to prove an Igbo heritage for Anioma doesn't hold water. Every linguist has his own concepts and theory. You don't look at everything as black and white.

And what do you mean about it being impossible to separate language from culture? Do you know about language shift, endangered language and language extinction? An endangered language is a language that is at risk of falling out of use as its speakers die out or shift to speaking another language. Language loss occurs when the language has no more native speakers and becomes a "dead languag Does it mean when these languages die that their culture die along with them immediately? Go to the North, many languages there are endangered. Some have gone extinct because of Hausa language but these people still practice their culture. They don't practice Hausa culture.
Itsekiri speak a Yoruboid language but they practice Edo culture and they're neither Edo nor Yoruba. Same way our language is Igboid and our culture Edo. We're neither Igbo nor Edo.

Bridget95:
you call a people 'Delta igbo' their language resembles igbo,their names are igbo,their culture is igbo and you turn around and tag them Edo. hahahah I laugh at the understanding of some so called educated people.when you are asked to do research, you need to look at characteristics in other to do your finding of origin.somebody bears 'Okafor' in Agbor and another bears same 'Okafor' in Anambra and IMO and a sane individual tags the Agbor man to a beni man whose name is Osayende or Nosakhare.hahahah very funny

and resemble Igbo , yes. But don't talk about culture except you don't know anything about Anioma. As for name , the same guy have you see answering Okafor also has up to four brothers answering Obaigbena, Obanor, Osuhon, Irabor and so on. And his father's name is probably an Edo name. Does that make us Edo? Capital No. Same way answering Okafor doesn't make us Igbo. So don't get involved in a debate you don't know anything about.

Even some Ijoid and Ekoid groups in Rivers, Bayelsa, Cross River are being Igbonized. Now Even as little as Ika is, many Bini and Esan communities in Edo States has started speaking Ika. Does that make them Ika? No. Though they can be Ika because we have same heritage. But no, the Esan group still practice strictly e Esan cultures. Ika culture is mixture of Bini and Esan.

fratermathy:
@ehikwe22

I'll also advise you as a fellow Deltan (assuming you truly are) to let go of hate. I've seen some of your anti-Urhobo comments but chose to ignore you because it wasn't worth it. No one fights on two fronts and succeeds. Urhobos are not your problem in any way. The average Anioma youth may not even encounter an Urhobo all his life save for when he leaves Aniomaland or possibly in Asaba by virtue of chance.

I also want to use this medium to inform you to drop this being Igbo or not issue. Ika is an Igboid language, this means you speak a dialect or variant of Igbo. You may choose to be ethnically non-Igbo and that is understandable but you cannot deny your Igbo heritage and linguistic roots.

Focus your time on better things. Don't degenerate to hate. You would be no better than those you accuse of hate.


Thank you.

Well, I love my Urhobo people but you guys play politics of bitterness and you can't deny that. Everything I said in that comment is fact though I was too blunt. I've spent time in many parts of Urhobo lands and I have lots of Urhobo friends but Urhobos are too politically inclined and when they play the politics, they play it very serious and when they lose, they get very bitter. You can't deny that Urhobos ganged up against an Anioma governor quoting we can't have capital and governor at the same time. Being that zoning is not constitutional, they should have let go of r hate when they lost, but no, they didn't. They embarked on hate campaigns, slandering and libeling. I belong to many Urhobo groups and pages on Facebook and the kind of things I see on those pages are unimaginable. So much hatred. If you see my comments, you'll notice it's very harsh. Yes. You can't just start exhibiting hatred towards a group of people just because you lost State capital to them and their son won an election against your sons. The kind of comments I read and the things I witnessed in my stay in some Urhobos towns are so unimaginable. Come to Ika and Anioma groups and you will never see anyone posts to attack any particular group. Only Igbos get reprimanded every now and then when they come to our groups with Igbo agenda.

If you read the history surrounding the creation of Delta State, you will understand that we were not in the original plan of a Delta State. We were to have our own state but as occasion played out, the two states was merged upon creation with the name Delta. I understand how painful it must be to have the capital of a state named after the state you have been clamoring for, moved to a place that wasn't in the original plan of the State. But don't be too quick to forget that we were to have our own state too with capital location in our region. After the state capital saga, the Urhobos hijacked the political apparatus of the State claiming how they are majority, how they own Delta and how we are not true Deltans which doesn't make sense. The fact that we were merged together with you guys makes us as Deltan as any Urhobo person irrespective of the fact we were clamoring for our state. Urhobos control the political arena and the Delta State civil service of Delta State from inception. But God being so kind, Aniomas has been great people even from colonial era. I can't count the number of key positions we held from the creation of Nigeria. We were getting most of the major Delta State slot from FG and this also angered the Urhobos. So when Okowa emerged, the anger grew to such a great level that in most Urhobo groups that I belonged on Facebook, they don't just attack Okowa but they attack his people and kept on reopening old wounds. To me, this is childish politics. In politics, you can't win all the time. When you lose today, let go and strategize for the future. The animosity I witnessed observed with your brothers was what prompted me to make that comment. I don't have anything against the Urhobos, but it pains me that they have made my people their political arch enemy.


And what exactly do mean about Igbo heritage? What's Igbo in Anioma heritage? If you're ignorant about Anioma, come to Agbor and make your research and observation. Apart from language, we don't have anything in common with the Igbos. Our culture, festivals, village structure, kingship and chieftancy, food, music, dressing, festivals, world view and idiosyncrasies, surnames, town names, founders, just name, have nothing to do with Igbo come to Agbor and Anioma and observe how our communities are planned, our building planning and patterns. Our structural hierarchies and every other things don't have any semblance with Igbo. Is language the only thing you use to group ethnicity? I'm sure you're aware language evolve or change. Some languages get replaced by other languages and some go extinct. Culture, customs and traditions are more difficult to change that's why we've retained most of these things. .

uckennety:
Who are you to declare dem non-igbos

And how do you mean by majority of dem don't want to be igbos?

Mr just respect ur worthless self

I didn't say majority don't want to be Igbo I said majority said they're not Igbo and they're not Igbo. I'm an Agbor man and I dare you to come to Agbor with any Igbo agenda if you will reach your house with your body complete.

fratermathy:
Do not absolve the Igbo of hate towards any ethnic group as you are implying. People may hate Igbos, as expected. But Igbos have a long list of tribes that it hates. Hausa is number one, followed by Yoruba. Edo and Urhobo have made way into the list as well, if we are to judge by the statements of online miscreants and hate propagandists!

You cannot fight hate with hate. If other ethnic groups hate you, locate the root source of that hatred and address it. It is never a thing of pride to be hated by everyone. Everyone cannot all be wrong at the same time. Something must be wrong. I think Igbos need to have a think-tank over this in order to secure your collective future as a people.

Quit saying Igbos have nothing but love for the South South. That is a big lie. Igbos care very little for the South except for obvious reasons. If at all they even show any inkling for care, it is for the Igboid groups, so spare me that sanctimonious BS.

Let's just end this conversation. It's headed nowhere. We have agreed on certain things and disagreed on a lot. My major standpoints remain:

1. Igbos/IPOB shouldn't add Urhobo to their struggle for any reason without first consulting with us
2. Igbos have never shown love or offered an olive branch to Urhobos
3. Igbos, especially those online, have created enemies of Urhobos due to their uncouth statements
4. Urhobos remain indifferent towards Igbos and the Igbo cause
5. Delta Igbos/Ijaws/Itsekiris are free to do whatever they want or even join Biafra. Urhobo has never agreed to that or showed sympathy to that cause.
6. You cannot use hate to fight hate. Because of this, I have resolved not to hate the great Igbo race. However, Igbos should realise that I am just one person. I can assertively tell you that many Urhobos are suspicious of Igbos mainly because of the things they read online, statements that Igbos make against us, and the act of adding Urhoboland to maps without consulting with us.


Thank you!

I implore you to stop using this term "Delta Ibos". There is nothing like Delta Igbos. We have our political name which is Anioma but apart from that, each of us have our closely related ethnicity and we agreed to merge it into a new identity called Anioma. I as an Ika man doesn't have anything to do with Igbo hence it's rude to refer me with anything Igbo. There are only few Anioma towns with Igbo ancestry and these few also have some little Edo migrants. I can trace my ancestry back from 600 years and they're all Edo names up to my father's name. My own name is strictly Ika name and has nothing to do with Igbo. I'm not here to write much but I'm sure you've taken note.

fratermathy:
Oniovo Bantudra,

Mavor? Yanji ihwo r'Igbo vwo biko. Ihwo na morue mamor. Vwo mlo obor a ta rawansie? Biko, yanjia wo vi Biafra r'ayen.

Dont speak for other tribes in Delta State. No one gave us that right. Speak only for Urhobo-Isoko, our people.

All the so-called Delta Igbos are Igbos after all and have a right to join their kin in any movement or country.

My problem is with Igbos or iPob adding non Igboid tribes to their Biafra. Urhobo-Isoko was never part of the original Biafra. Even the so-called Delta Igbos were not part of Biafra. So I see no historical, cultural, linguistic or political basis by which Urhobo-Isoko should join the Igbo struggle when we have ours.

So far, I've never seen any Urhobo/Isoko person that even sympathises with the Biafran cause. UPU, the mother union of all Urhobo people, has asserted Urhobo's stand in the matter. We were never, are not and can never be Biafrans.


Biafra is an Igbo struggle and if they want to achieve it, they shouldn't play Lugard and add uninterested and unrelated people.

The Urhobos have more affinity with Edo & Yoruba than Igbo. On Nigeria we stand. In Nigeria we remain.

Our many issues shall be addressed one day and should there be need for secession, we have our own voice for that and are capable of having our own Urhobo country!


This thread is definitely not needed. Don't speak for other groups at all. Delta is diverse and acknowledge it.

And @Bridget95: Urhobo is the largest tribe in Delta State with a population of at least 2m. We occupy Delta Central and Delta South. We have settlements in Edo, Bayelsa and Ondo States. After Ijaw, we come next as the second most populous tribe in the South South.

Uckennety & others: Becareful of how you insult people's tribes. The Internet never forgets. Igbos have shown Urhobos nothing but hate and spite. And these are the same people who want us in their Biafra by force. Just because you are larger than us doesn't make you more important. Tribalism is what is affecting the bulk of Igbos today and as long as you guys let that hate fester, your lot will never change in the nation!

I still appreciate Igbos like Amarabae who are sensitive to minorities and use their words carefully. Amara, and others like you, I say Ndewo! Enemies should not be created where there are none. Urhobos and Igbos have been neighbours, peaceful ones at that, from time immemorial. We have never claimed to be the same people or share the same goals. Let us all respect that. These online miscreants and tribalistic bigots are actually doing more harm than good and creating enemies of neighbours!

Do you know the history and culture of the so called "Delta Igbo"? Apart from in language, do you think you are closer to Edo than them? Who are you to declare them Igbos when majority of them say they are not Igbo? If you don't know anything about the so called delta Igbos, go to Agbor and research about their history, cultures and traditions, kingship, music and every other things. Forget whatever politically inspired tales you have heard in your area and go for research in places like Agbor

azimibraun:
Does it matter? Counter his post with facts and figures. We all came from one place or the other so it doesn't mean a damn thing.

I asked this question because majority of Urhobos are still suffering from the loss of the election. Post election trauma is affecting most of them that they don't see anything good in whatever Okowa does. The hatred from that section is so strong. Why are they so pained? Even Isoko and Ijaw that hasn't produced governors supported Okowa, but Urhobos said no, how can th eyes have capital, have CBN governor and also produce governor? Does it matter? It's turn by turn.

BiafranPound:
look at your mouth like the Delta Igbos can migrate back to south east... You prepare to go back to Edo state because no of our landmark will be reduced!

Where's your territory? Igbos don't have any territory in Delta State. You better get that into your own skull

bantudra:
then you all are not deltans...simple....you can not be deltans and biafrans the same time...

i consider you people as foreighners in the delta....

Come to Agbor and tell us that we are foreigners. You sound so silly mister. What makes you more Deltan than I am? Election has ended and the earlier you get the fact that an Urhobo man lost to an Ika man into your skill the better for you. We have capital, we have governor. Go and hug transformer. Everyday I hear you people cry how can Anioma have capital and still have governor at the same time? This is not supposed to be an issue. But many of your people have too much hatred in their heart. What a pity.

bantudra:
then you all are not deltans...simple....you can not be deltans and biafrans the same time...

i consider you people as foreighners in the delta....

you read but do not comprehend. Did I tell you I'm Biāfran? I even made it known I'll have problems with them the day they try to include me in their Biāfra but does that mean they don't have right to get their Biāfra? I'm only being realistic

MONITZ:
Nd all the people who ve commented so far ignored the most incompetent poo in the person of Ifeanyi Okowa ,this dude is a mass of sawdust who only knows how to commission shoprite and renovated parts of road with the inscription "tax payers money at work " at every possible junction so much that we re now tired of seeing all these.


And when inspecting his shabbily patched roads, u will see him flashing his 42 sets of teeth like he knows Wat he is doing.

Public school teachers re on strike and the mofo is not even showings signs of wanting to end this impasse.... All he does is to sample his heavy teeth with his numerous hangers-on telling him all is fine in the state. Of course he is only there to line his pocket. just like his predecessors and so nothing else matters to him

Delta state has been very unlucky with governors with each new one plundering and raping her silly and as we speak,Delta state is in the Intensive Care Unit of Oghara specialist Teaching Hospital with hemorrhaging and may be pronounced dead any moment from now...

Is Lagos not being governed by a mere mortal too?,he is even a Nigerian at that ....

Where are you from? To start with

Fayose nailed it. The 'presidents' seem more powerful than Buhari. Or who else can explain why they exude so much pride and arrogance? Did Buhari give them this power? Or he's just helpless? Why did the herdsmen resume their killings immediately Buhari returned? Only the people whose patriotism lies towards Buhari rather than Nigeria will condemn this criticism.