₦airaland Forum

cheruv:
Your Bini brethren gave up on you long time ago...so who am I to give a Bleep on someone who's deficient on a history he claims to know
Am no longer interested in the Ika history you claim to know but its clear you don't
Do you still have the old Ika word list??

I would advise everybody to ignore these people. He doesn't know history. So it's you and your brothers that PROPAGATE (in your own words) history that know history?

As for Ekumeku war of the Anioma I have read a lot about it, I've been told a lot about it by people that witnessed it and I personally know the family of some of the commanders of that war and no where have I ever heard of any Nri influence on the war. I'm sure you just propounded this theory from the figment of your imagination. Or did another of your propagators help in propagating this?

hammerF:


Ishan and Ika Igbo are too similar though?

There's nothing like Ika Igbo. It's either you are Ika or you're Igbo

cheruv:
At times I wonder why he's arguing blindly... An ika elder by name Chief iduuwe wrote a book on the history of agbor where he claimed that the town was founded by one ogele like that around 700BC...even as recently as may 2015,during an interview with the Niger Delta budget monitoring group, the Dein of Agbor gave a little tip on the etymology and origin of agbor. It was from that interview that I got to know that Agbor is the Igbo for lineage which in Anioma is pronounced as "Agbò" while other Igbos call it Agburu.
Instead of him to go and read up on Agbor or should I say ika history, he's here arguing blindly

Why can't you use your senses? Dein of Agbor said all that in an interview and you chose to believe that interview was real? Agbor was formerly called Agbon before it was anglicicized. Lineage is called Agbon in Edo and Anioma and There is no relationship between Agbon and Agburu. Look for another lie. Dein never said this. Paste the link to this your interview let's see.

vicenzo:
This submission is irrational. You can't make a comparison between Ika and Igbo, as there is no group in the Igbo conglomerate known as Igbo.
You can make comparisons between Ika and it's Enuani neighbors, and then you can make a comparison between Enuani and Her Onitsha/ Idemili neighbors, then between Onitsha and Ogbaru, and between Ogbaru and Ukwuani/Ndokwa, between Ukwuani/Ndokwa/Ndoni and Oguta, between Oguta and orlu.

If you do this, you will notice a gradual shift of dialects, cultures, dressing styles, deities, etc as you move along
The further each Igbo speaking group are from each other, the more different their culture, dialects, dressing pattern, foods, etc will be.

This is a rational way of studying a dialect continuum like Igbo.
I'm sure you will find 98% similarities between Ika and their Enuani neighbors, who then share up to 90% similarity with Onitsha/Ogbaru, who share many similarities with Ukwuani/ Ndokwa/Ndoni, who are linked with the Ogutas in Imo state.

This is how it is in every large ethnic group.

You can't "come and go and be" comparing Igbo with Ika, it's as silly as comparing Ezza with Igbo, Nsukka with Igbo, Ngwa with Igbo, etc.
The question would arise, " who then are the Igbos" you are comparing these groups with.

you ended up not making any sense. Ika is not Igbo so you can make a comparison of ika and Igbo. If Ika is Igbo and another person say ika is from Bini, the right thing to do is to place ika side by side with Bini and Igbo and make an in depth comparison of the Igbo and Bini elements found in ika. If we should do this with all those things I listed, ika is a million miles away from Igbo.

When classifying ethnicity, what are the things to put into consideration? For me they're history and origin, cultures, custom and traditions, kingship and village structure, festivals, music and dancing steps, traditional believe systems, food and cuisine, art and worldview. If you make a comparison of ika and Igbo putting these into consideration, you will find out ika is a million miles away from Igbo

Ghana as a country doesn't have good cuisine. They're worst in cooking among all the places I've been to. Why would anybody in their right senses compare any Nigerian and Ghana food?

RedboneSmith:
He is from Imo State. The problem with liars on this board is that they tend not to remember that it is possible to go back and check their posting history.

Yes, I've observed his comments here and I find it hard to believe he's from Delta. He knows a few things about Anioma and decided to start impersonating. Igbos are fond of doing that

cheruv:
Aro came from Nri... There's nothing like they started off as Ibibio bla bla bla
Nri had an Eze... He was a priest king unlike the Eze Aro who was a nominal king.
Your yaps about Idu being an yoruba enclave in a Bini sea looks so farfetched to me...at times I wonder whether you think am a child you can be telling such lies you can't even back your lies up
Stop talking about Igboland kos all you peddle here are lies..all in a bid to show that yoruba culture is superior.
At times I wonder why you yorubas are like this

Well, his lies are not as much as yours. I've been observing your post and wondering if you're even from Anioma like you are claiming here.

To me as an Anioma man, I think Bini has a lot of similarities with Igbos but many Nigerians are ignorant of this. I'm between both groups and it's easier to know which of my language and culture is Edo and which one is Igbo but sometimes I found out that some of the ones I thought to be Igbo are in Edo and some Edo are in Igbo. Many of them.

It amuses me when people talk about how security has been restored. So Fulani herdsmen killing thousands of Nigerians doesn't qualify as insecurity?

And Fulani herdsmen are still on a killing spree.

Corrinthians:
Hmmm. The bold makes a lot of sense to me. But you lost me when you went further to say a tribe (Ngwa) could as well be an ethnic group. If that is the case, then you are saying there is no difference between an ethnic group and a tribe irrespective of the lingual subunits there could be in the tribe itself.

There's no particular rule about how large a tribe gets before it can become an ethnic group.

If Buhari admit he is a dollard today, Adeisina will come out to tell us how dollard is an ambiguous word and can also be used for someone that is intelligent. Shehu will come out with another version, then Lai and finally our dear Pastor turned liar. They think all Nigerians are zombies

progress69:
Guy stop fooling yourself on this thread. Only internet rats believe anything about a certificate forgery. As big as PDP is, they never for once try to play this card before,during or after the elections, because they know it will be the dumbest thing to do.
You and your friends are calling people imprisoned in the military era ex-convicts? I think u guy's brain needs to checked if blind hate have not eaten half of the brain. Do u guys know the meaning of excovicts or you are just ranting on the internet with share ignorance and illiteracy? And this are the youths that want Biafra. So much from clowns!

if it was a trivial issue, Buhari wouldn't have connived with his principal to cover his butts. Stop threwing rubbish here

Ovamboland:
So OBJ made Ibori launder stolen funds in UK, and effected his arrest in Dubai in 2010 three years after he left power. OBJ also purchased his London homes, cars and jet and planted it in Ibori's name.

With more Nigerians like you our failure as a nation is assured

OBJ didn't make him launder money but he helped in effecting his arrest. I was aware when the then EFCC collaborated with interpol to arrest Ibori. Ibori made too many enemies and Obasanjo was the biggest of them. He was the only governor who openly opposed OBJs 3rd term bid probably because he wanted to be president. But he also fought against many injustices when he was governor.

Victarion:
What a Ridiculous comment. Someone that embezzled State funds and enriched himself and his family, also got himself properties abroad. That's who you're refering to has having a good heart. Just like imagining Mexicans saying El Chapo has a good heart..

Ibori, just like every other naija politician, is a criminal. But there different kinds of criminals. Ibori made so much money before venturing into politics. He stole but some of those monies is not Delta States money. But he stole and he deserves what he got. But I still stand by my opinion of him being a good man. It's too difficult for someone to be a man of truth and a criminal but Ibori is straightforward person. Those who have had dealings with him will attest to this. I know what I'm talking about. I'm not in support of him running for any elective position because he's an ex convict.

Metroescobar:
Mr man keep quiet! See you saying that during his tenure delta was bubbling? Because you were having access to easy government money I'm sure? See a man that robbed your state blind and did not even bother to provide you guys with adequate infrastructure or even help in cleaning up your wastelands but rather preferred to be coming to abuja to waste your states cash on prostitutes and booze and on foreign balling trips is who you term to have a "good heart"!


I swear I've never seen people as myopic as you chaps from that south south zone! All you people know is clan rubbish and grooving and blaming! never any accountability, justice or development

yes we were seeing free money and it was so sweet. That's what government is about. Good standard of living and money circulation. The contrast to that is what Nigeria is experiencing right now under Buhari.
Ibori was already a billionaire before he became a governor. I said Ibori is a criminal because he made his money through crime. Ibori became a billionaire during Abachas regime and some shady dealings overseas. All the money seized from Ibori are proceeds from crime but I don't think most are from state's treasury.

NB: I'm not supporting him to run for an elective position because apparently, he's an ex convict and I believe in the rule of law. Just saying my opinion about a good man that was just caught up in the political game.

zikter:
was he accused of certificate forgery? the issue was raised was he did not have waec certificate and not that he forged it. again get your facts right pls before coming out online to type. but I still emphasize that you can Google your constitution on qualification for President in your country so you can learn. don't think those who withdraw their cases were foolish to do so.

Did he Forge his certificate? Yes or no?

zikter:
this is no argument. why don't you simply Google your constitution and see the difference between the two cases. we are talking about law here and not what you think or feel, OK? do you think obj and pmb opponents kept quiet on their supposed convictions? trivial issues of pmb certificate were raised and none about a major issue of conviction and you think PDP were foolish to do that? we should not be so ignorant about our laws as this is computer age and not stone age.

you call certificate forgery a trivial issue?

Weselion:
Bros why are you people like this now, why? Why? Can you imagine?

Ibori is a criminal but he has a good heart? My God

Criminals are greedy people, they do things just to benefit themselves.

Have you seen an armed robber with a good heart?

yes, I have seen. Do you know your history? I'm not talking for talking sake. Ibori is a human rights activists. I have been close to him through a politician uncle. I know there's a motive for everything a criminal does, but if you're observant enough, you can see beyond facades and charades. Buhari rode of the cloak of integrity to deceive the gullible, I'm not one of those people that can be easily deceived.

Ibori is a criminal but he has a good heart. I haven't seen any politician in Nigeria that has a better heart than him. He single handedly fought against Obasanjo when he wanted to cede some oil wells from Delta to Onda. He was the only governor that openly gave Obasanjo issues when he was planning for 3rd term. He made many people, carried people along, built schools, roads, hospitals and Delta State was bubbling during his tenure.

What a reactionary government. Reports from the media my foot

Any unification with the Hausa is like dining with the devil. They're too wicked and devilish. Selfish people

And the video of Buharis boys killing and snatching up ballot box? Where is Sahara reporters to investigate on that very much serious one?

27%? Another lie of the century. This Buhari is so proud that he doesn't even want to give credit to the people funding his government. Why is it always 27%? In months they say federal allocation is 27% oil funded, the 4 core Niger Delta oil producer have the highest by high margin.

And the fools commenting here don't care if this is a made up story or not. Where is the proof he ordered boys? No video or audio recording and you expect me to believe?

genieluv:
Thank you so much, they always disagree and attack every other group of people and this is why i think Ikwerres now hate them so much.
.I met an ikwerre guy in Jos, i taught he was igbo until we started talking and i opened up to him about my origin and you need to see the kind of hatred and anger this guy was talking about igbos with, i tried to challenge him that even though we south-south tribes may not accept igbo tag that however we are related with igbos and we somehow have to form a kind of regional identity of a sort, probably including the middlebelt too, because i saw that it had to take the combined effort of the SS,SE, Middlebelt and some yorubas in order to make GEJ win in 2011. This guy said he never wants to have anything to do with igbos, so we just ended the conversation there.
Now i fully see and understand the justified hatred of igbos by ikwerres. But nevertheless, me i think no matter the differences we SS and SE people have, we need to also form a kind of alliance together with the middlebelt just for our own national interests because as it stands, it seems like the Northern muslims have joined forces with yoruba muslims and some others to have a kind of hegemony, i dont know if am wrong but that is what i think.

Pls are u from Anioma too?

Yes, actually, I wish there would be a form of Southern alliance but that's not going to happen because the Igbos have so much hatred in them and the Yorubas can not be trusted. Igbos think people are jealous of them but to be frank, it's not jealousy. They make people hate them because of their insolence and lack of respect for others and they also hate everybody.

suwalee:
Bros calm down did u really av to be vulgar?to some extent I've learned something don't come nd ruin it with hate speech...nd learn to respect ppl's opinion plz

What did you learn?