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I am from ndokwa West to be precise

we are igbos

who are you to call us minorities?

op take ya time o

you better remove that thrash you posted up there saying aniomas are minorities chai

say you are Igbo. Where are you from to begin with? It's possible that you have an Igbo ancestors but don't drag others into your igbo madness

OMA means good in igbo language

Anioma means good land in igbo language

And so? Did Nigerians become English because our name was coined to become Niger Area in English?

olisaokere:
ANIOMA is NOT an Ethnic group.Like you said,the term A.N.I.O.M.A is a coinage and refers to the number of local government indigenous to igbo peoples of delta state and this includes ANIOCHA,NDOKWA,IKA,OSHIMMILI and the OMA which means GOOD in English Language.Now this term ANIOMA which means GOOD LAND was coined by Late Chief Osadebay from Asaba which he used to describe the igbo people of delta state that has other ethnic groups sharing same delta state with the Igbos..so please disregard any group or persons who tell you that anioma is an ethnic group.Only the mischievous people are the ones who would come to tell you that anioma is an ethnic group.

Yes, you are right. Anioma is not an ethnic group but a nation with very related ethnic group. That they decided to create a word that has an Igbo meaning doesn't matter. It's a recent creation. It would matter if that was our ancestral name. Enuani is a recent creation. Ukwani is also a recent creation. Even the Igaloid/Yoruboid part of Anioma are called Odiana. This doesn't make them to be of Igbo origin.

oladeebo:
Nwankwo!
thanks!
brilliant one!
they don't have interest in their own prosperity!
they were the British subject in Nigeria!
in supporting you!
I have never see a single seceded country in the world greater that her parent country! never!

it's going to start with Biafra

kingthreatz:
This GEJ houseboy needs to be kidnapped. For sanity sake and in order not to talk like a lunatic in public, please desist from following these on social media:
Reno Omokri
Ffk
Ayo Fayose
Shehu Sani

These are the only sane guys in the political class

Too many insane people around. Where exactly did he advocate for the release of Evans?

Time will tell. I doubt we'll ever join the Yoruba

500,000 Catholics out of a population of about 600,000? KS that possible anywhere in the world?

All I see is statues.

pazienza:
Take it Easy, Ifeajuna was involved, and he wasn't from Anioma. Granted that Onitsha people are traditionally aligned to Anioma, still Onitsha is in SE.

Lets not play that blame game now, it helps no one, because at this rate, we might decend into blaming Umuahia people for Ironsi folly. Moreover, Anioma is a political term, Nzeogwu was an Enu ani man, from Okpanam town precisely and Okpanam people are proudly Igbo.

The person you are replying is an Ika man.
Enu ani people are on the general comfortable with Igbo identity.

Ika on the other hand, suffers identity crisis.

Enuani has the loudest Igbo denials. And it's you and your family that have identity crisis.

EzeUche:
Listen Delta Igbo, it WAS your people who plunged the Eastern Igbo clans and our Ibibio neighbors into war.

And for you to deny your Igbo brethren is a spit in the face of Eastern Igbo clans who had no member involved in the first coup.

We did not deny you people like some of your brethren did after the war. My own Igbo clan, the Aro didn't even consider itself Igbo until close to when the British left. But my people still suffered for your perceived sins by the rest of Nigeria

I am Igbo first, but I will not allow some Delta Igbo rewrite history when the coup leader Nzeogwu hailed from your region

it's true Anioma had lots of brave and vibrant officers, it's also true Anioma had a considerable number of soldiers that participated in that coup alongside people from all parts of the country. But will you blame Anioma for the cowardice of Ironsi that directly led to the counter coup? Or will you blame Anioma for the way the Igbos up North in their regular chest beating habit started making jest of Northerners calling them different derogatory names and how their arrogance led to ignore all the signs of a progrom? The progrom didn't just happen. During the cooking up of everything, the Igbos were busy making noise and calling Northerners cowards and saying they can't do anything. Eventually, they did something and your people started crying like babies. What you still do today.

pazienza:
Do you mind letting us in,on what this your "right way" entails.
Maybe we could learn one or two things today.

Like first putting your house in order in the SE then consulting with stakeholders from different groups before giving them a name that's alien to them. I bet if Igbos forget about this emotionalism, hatred and chest beating and follow Biafra up properly, they will get support of the elites and after that, meeting other groups will be made much easier. Then you'll see that even the groups you think hate you will go with you. Nobody likes someone to foist something on them. Do it the right way and you will get all the required supports from all quarters

UnchangeableGod:
I quite understand that that most parts of Delta are not Igbo. But how can you reasonably claim for Anioma? Does Anioma not mean good land in Igbo? Do Asaba (part of Anioma) people not speak similar dialect with Onicha people? Anioma may decide for or against joining Biafra, that is not the point. Will you reasonably claim that Kwara and some part of Kogi are not Yoruba because of where they fall in? Not even all core Igbo South-Easterners support Biafra to the best of my knowledge. But the truth has to be said. Igbos remain so irrespective of what has transpired over the decades. Let not this Biafra issue lead to so much propaganda that we teach people especially the younger generation errors. Little wonder history as a subject is no more being taught due to too much distortions by the teachers depending on their sentiments. Social Studies and Geography should not be subjected to politics and propaganda. Thanks.

I think you are the one that needs to undergo social studies, geography and history class if all you base ethnicity on is language. So according to you analogy, all non Hausa parts of the North that speak Hausa as first or second language are Hausa. I stayed in the North and I witnessed elders of a certain community warning the youths to desist from speaking Hausa because their native language is getting extinct after their generation. In some other communities, their languages are gone extinct. Now those communities have become Hausa?

pazienza:
Don't fall for the propaganda. Enu-ani which Ibuzo is part of is staunchly pro Igbo and pro Biafra. Igbo uzo wasn't changed after the war to Ibuzo, it was anglicizee to Ibusa long ago, same as Onitsha and Enugu, instead of Onicha and Enugwu, Awka instead of Oka.

If you are Igbo, you owe our Enu ani people some apology.

No traditional ruler in Enu-ani has come out yet to deny Biafra, Okowa is an Ika, and Ika is half way gone to Ikwerre Igbophobic stance, pay him no attention, but we still have proud Igbos there that are pro Biafran, Osita mordi is one of them, if referendum comes to Ikaland, Okowa would be entitled to one vote as Mordi.

Remember also that Enugu state government once denied Biafra, upholding Nigerian unity. Only few Nigerian politicians would favour the change of the status quo that Nigerian unity symbolizes, so what politicians like Okowa say hardly mean much when placed in real context.

No Ika king has come out to denounce Biafra. It's not necessary. And not coming out doesn't mean they're in support of it. Ibusa is among the few Anioma clans that has almost full Igbo migration yet there are lots of Igbo denials there talk more of other Enuani clans that claim other origin than Ignoring. . Go to their websites and forums to find out. Since Biafra is not an Igbo thing neither am I claiming zero affinity between Anioma and Igbo, it's not out of place for Anioma or other parts of Delta to be included. But all I'm saying is they should do it the right way.

pazienza:
You are Ika, so stick to your Edophillic ways.

Igbos never had empires, and Ika certainly wasn't part of Eastern region( I say this because many Igboid tribes in Rivers peddle the falsehood that it was in Eastern region arrangement that Igbos Igbonized them and made them to start speaking an Igboid language), so at what point did Igbos Igbonized these Edophillic but now Igbo speaking people in Ika, when even in same Ika, real groups that migrated from Edo, like Oza nogogo had remained Edo speaking since antiquity, even till today.

Igbo don't need to be in the same region with anyone to acculturate them. They only need a form of boundary with you and that's all . You need to understand what made Ozanogogo retain their language before you start jumping into conclusions. Until recently, 5 villages in Agbor were still Edo speaking but now they're fastly switching because now is there time to switch. Soon it will get to the turn of Ozanogogo. That's how it happens. Sometimes, it takes many centuries for some to switch while it takes few centuries or decades for others. But definitely, it will happen

EzeUche:
I cannot allow this statement to go unanswered. If you are truly Delta Igbo, then you need to listen

You Delta Igbo are the reason why the wider Igbo have suffered so much in Nigeria.

Was it not a Delta Igbo who lead the first coup that plunged Igboland into our darkest chapter? But the wider Igbo stood with you all. Even though the Eastern Igbos clans were not involved

Our destinies are intertwined because of the actions of your brothers in the 1960s, so you have no right to say you are not Igbo when the Igbo nation suffered for the sins of a few Delta/Anioma Igbos.

Lies. The coup was plotted by officers from different parts of the country including few from the north. It was termed an Igbo coup by the media because an Igbo benefited directly from the coup.

Kingsley1000:
ARE SAYING THAT DELTA IGBO eg asaba ARE NOT PART OF BIAFRA?

Actually, what you call Delta Igbo is a group of different groups living together but has been Igbonized. We have never been part of biafra neither have we ever been grouped with Igbos right from the colonial era till present. However, we may choose to go with Biafra if they do it in the right way. Let the Igbos organize themselves first, then they can come and talk with our people . We might decide to go with biafra but don't just wake up and give someone a name thats alien to him

conductor3:
Personally, I support a homogeneous Biafran with only Igbo people from their respective states (Inc Delta, Rivers, Imo, Anambra, Benue, Enugu, etc) but you don't fall for all this cheap scam by politicians who are feeding fat from the dysfunctional system of the eyessaw called Nigeria.

The real Deltans are the ones bombing my FB timeline with pro-Biafran agitation not some politician speaking to secure his pension and pocket in Lugard's zoo.

If Deltans don't support Biafra, why did Deltans shut down Asaba in December 2015 in protest, closed up their markets and offices on May 30 from Okpanam to Agbor to Ibusa to Ogwashi?

Why did they close the biggest food market, Ogbogonogo on May 30th 2017?

On referendum day, Ovie and Okowa, kindly remember that you're are entitled to one vote each.

The sun is rising.

IPOB and lies. Nobody closed down their shops. Only bus drivers plying Asaba Onitsha didn't work because of fear that Onitsha might be hot. All shops opened all over Delta

Too much fabrications on this thread. Kudos to you guys

pazienza:
Not having an Enogie is a pointer to the fact that Isele Uku is not under the dominion of Edo.
You are relating two unrelated things.

We already know that Enogie title exists in Igbanke out of Bini imperialism and greedy need by those stooges appointed as Enogies in Igbanke to retain power.

The Enogies derive their power directly from the Oba and would like Igbanke to remain tied to Oba, so as to retain power, even if some of their people want away from Edo.

Edos are landgrabbers, they don't see Anioma as Edo people, cos they know Anioma isn't Edo, they don't care about Anioma welfare, they are more interested in keeping Anioma as a vassal region under their dominion. The Igbanke people in Edo know better.

Truly, you guys have selective blindness and use double standards in everything. Your anywhere-belle-face kind of argument is very funny.

pazienza:
" I came across a writup on the naming system of
the Anioma people on Facebook (Proudly Anioma
group) and I decided to share it here so that
everyone can be educated on Anioma onomastics.
See it below:"

Mischievous OP can't even bring himself down to mention the fact that the thread was culled from a group called "Proudly Anioma, Proudly Igbo", notice he stopped at "Proudly Anioma", while deliberately omitting the "Proudly Igbo" part of the group. Such is the character of the OP.

You Think his omission of the Igbo there was unintentional, but those of us in this field, know better.

You're killing yourself over the omission of proudly Igbo, a name given to a Facebook group and which anybody can create and give any name to any group. I can decide to create a group and name it proudly Anioma proudly Edo or proudly Edo Proudly Igbo and formulate an objective and start pursuing same objective

Ngozi123:
Nwannem, those people are brainwashed; you can only present them with facts and leave the conversation. They'll eventually get their wake up call. All of the Delta Igbos I've met, both within and without my family, have been proud Igbos so all of the noisemakers don't faze me .

Do you know the meaning of brainwash? We've never seen ourselves as Igbo from the beginning of time till date. Only someone that doesn't know Anioma will attribute anything to politics and civil war. These have nothing to do with them

cheruv:
Edoid languages generally don't have the "ch" sound...I don't know if they lack "z" too but from my research the "ch" sound is the main difference btwn Edoid and Igboid languages.
Any Edoid language you see having "ch" for sure borrowed it from the nearest Igboid language around

You see, you shouldn't a word into another word simply because it makes more sense. History should be about what was, what is and never what ought to be. Besides, ehi is not from Igbo language why are you concerned about if it makes sense in Igbo language? There's nothing like ahi. It's ehi in Ika and ashi in Enuani. It's from Bini language and has the same meaning and significance in Ika Land. In all our myths, legends and fairy tales, after God, next is Ehi and Ogiso. Other very significant figures are olokun and Ojuwu the devil.

Ashi is the Aniocha variant of ehi. Ehi is the main word here and it's unfair to make ashi the main subject .

RedboneSmith:
Esan has the 'ch' sound? I am just asking because I can't remember seeing 'ch' in an Esan word.

Yes. Ehichoya is a very popular Esan name but more common around Uromi area

cheruv:
Is it to say that uya means disgrace?

Can anyone explain to me what uya means

Uya means suffering and anything negative in Anioma languages. Other Uya names include Ikponfinasoya literally means dustbin doesn't forbid bad things and ehichoya. Literally means God chase away my suffering and tribulations. Same name, same pronunciation and same meaning in Ika and Esan

Nice. This being from a pro Igbo group I must say it's fair enough. a study of all Anioma people and Aniocha related people outside of Delta State. I noticed the researcher included the Anioma related groups in SE in this study but I wonder if the researcher is very conversant with many Anioma related groups in Edo including the places that are bilingual in Ika and Edo languages.

obuus:
the Ika dialect is too similar to Owerri dialect that its obvious thy are both of same origin. i am particualry amazed at their use of ''ri'' in place of ''di'' for the ''be'' verb. And to negate the ''ri'' you introduce ''a'', hence you have such names as Arimotu, Arinze, etc.

how does Ri, Wu and other minor things make Ika and Owerri too similar. I just tried to play some Owerri music but I don't understand what they're singing about or saying. I understand Anambra, Enugu and even Nsukka better than I understand Owerri. I noticed similarities in wu, ri and few other things but that's not what you base similarities upon. It should be based upon how much intelligibility exist between both

Jesusloveyou:
why are ipods so stupid?
So magu help him to steal the money.
Moreover, a criminal voice shouldnt be held in national assembly. Since they are all criminal, they should all keep quiet. Or else, they will all go to jail.

They're all criminals. Including Magu and Buhari. Or you too want to excuse executive rascality and condemn legislative high handedness?

Wasting our money to treat a dumbass killer. He should die already. Since he returned from London, has he been working?

ExplorerReturns:
bros shame on you! you think that being granted a minority status as a distinct ethnicity is something to be proud of.

once again,shame on you! keep your clamor for a new ethnic group to your fathers compound.

your are a disgrace to bear an Igbo name
carry your family to Benin .

Shame on you for thinking an Ika man would denounce his ethnicity just for majority status. We're proud of ourselves and we're great achievers. And my name is a full Ika name and nothing Igboid about my name.