₦airaland Forum

emofine:
Logba, all fingers are not equal. There was a time when Angola was the poster child of hopelessness now everyone has seen the remarkable strides that nation has taken - it's called rise and fall. Our trajectories are not the same nor is our potential, our problems are not identical thus our solutions will differ. All this "look at Ghana" or "look at South Africa" constant chatter will not guarantee us solutions to our own very different problems. For your information Nigeria's economy is growing.

+1000

QFT.

He will make a killing off of this if he wins the bid. Faster/cheaper internet access I think will be an end result of this too, I hope? Anyway, good for Nigeria (and Mike's pocket) if he can revitalize NITEL.

Nigerian government shouldn't sell it off too cheaply though. . . NITEL has Ma Bell-like profitability potential (well, at least on a Nigerian scale) if it is managed properly.

OYES was arguably a mistake, but probably not a killer one.

The lack of commissioners may have been a mistake, but he has them in place now.

But neither of these are relevant to the current topic. Which I've not yet seen a good objection to.

Obiagu1:
When has JAMB pass mark reduced below 200?

You seem to have misread something somewhere. Perhaps reread the OP

Mobinga:
And so? Why do you guys care so much about zones, tribes? What the phuck is wrong with you people?

I also posted info by state. It is personally useful for me to know that my own state's pass rates aren't too far off from others in my zone. Etc, etc. There is nothing inherently tribal in my initial post, since I make no mention of tribes.

londoner:
@OP, did you quickly rush to create a thread because you saw that the SW was ahead of the SE?

Lol.

What does "ahead" even mean in this context? What is your own basis for saying "ahead"? And how can one conclude "ahead" based upon one year's worth of data?

At any rate, who ultimately cares about my motives. . . the more important thing is the data itself, not the who/why/what of its posting.

[quote author=South-East link=topic=725471.msg8833795#msg8833795 date=1312215806]Also, that website you have is no official source of important info such as this. The JAMB website was working when we showed all these data here on NL in the past. Somehow Dibu Ojerinde took over JAMB and destroyed that website. I can create my own blog and write whareva.[/quote]Nobody saw fit to download the data from the JAMB site? Do you remember the URLs? Maybe I can see if it was stored in the google cache, wayback machine or some other archive.

Really the author of that article should have provided the raw data so we wouldn't have to guess about what he did.

BTW, the data provided here is supposedly from a recent JAMB presentation. I hope it gets uploaded online, as well as data from previous years. Importantly, with pass rates by zone! Something the other article never provided. Telling how many took the exam is one thing, telling what % got above 180, 200, etc is another. . . and arguably more important.

I don't think that this thread has to involve any bashing. I didn't attack or put anyone down in this thread. I have in fact commended certain groups like Imo and Kwara.

What does "beat you consistently" mean?

Total # of exam takers, or percentage reaching certain thresholds?

If the former, there is this thread here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-237534.0.html which lists results by zone, but unfortunately doesn't provide the data in some sort of spreadsheet/table so one can examine it independently. I also don't know how that data was pulled from the JAMB site. . . did the JAMB website list zonal/state data in the past? Or did they go through some table/spreadsheet on the JAMB site to get the #s? In any case, I wish I knew, or the author had provided it.

And yes, you are right. This is only one year's worth of data. Probably not best to for example gamble your life based upon a relatively small sample size. But still interesting to look at, I think.

I saw this on the NaijaPolitics web forum, and decided to type up part of it here. Basically, it is a list of how many indigenes of each state took JAMB, and what fraction got different cutoffs. Cutoffs are "Above 170", "Above 180", "Above 190", "Above 200", but out of laziness I just typed up the first two.

Here is a bar plot with the # of people who took JAMB by zone: http://i53.tinypic.com/ra8685.png

And now a bar plot of pass rates by zone: http://i55.tinypic.com/f1il45.png

Same data as above, but in a table:
https://i51.tinypic.com/30kaz29.png

Finally, a spreadsheet listing the performance of all the states:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsNUaGBnBF1KdDlaYldCWFlZcjB1MEVyQmdxOXdGb3c&hl=en_US

Imo State leads the way with the # of indigenes taking JAMB. Bayelsa the least in the south, Zamfara the least in Nigeria. If we chose a cutoff of 170 and count how many get above 170, then Lagos, Ogun, Osun and Oyo lead the way in Nigeria. . . all at around 88%. Worst performing state is Nasarawa at a shade over 66%. So in other words, only 66% of Nasarawa indigenes taking JAMB get above 170.

Zonewise, # of test takers is as follows:

1. SE 354850
2. SW 353231
3. SS 340003
4. NC 243499
5. NW 123659
6. NE 78058

Sorted by percentage getting better than 170, we get the following ranking:

1. SW 87.73%
2. SE 84.29%
3. SS 81.58%
4. NC 77.91%
5. NW 73.76%
6. NE 72.74%

A few comments:
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[A] I think that Kwara State indigenes deserve a shout out here. Their 86.3% pass rate above 170 is the highest in the North, and they had 48k+ test takers (i.e., not a measly amount.)
[B] Imo State is very interesting to me. Either it has probably one of the highest indigene populations in Nigeria, or the people there are exceptionally interested in education.
[/list]

seanet02:
Ashewo, Odoko so that is all you saw here.

hehe

What can I say, I'm a simple man

Jason, congratulations bro

He who finds a wife finds a good thing, I think that is the proverb from the Bible.

The poster 0lumide spammed some irrelevant long post in many different threads. It is really annoying. Please clean up his spam.

See this post here for an example: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-724710.64.html#msg8831359

Wtf? Nobody is posting to make you happy or promote some hippy nirvana vision you have. You live your life and let others live theirs.

Anyway, more importantly, this thread has nothing to do with the sh1t you are talking about . . . for the most part, people are talking purely about policy.

So wtf does Hausa, Igbo, all that other sh1t got to do with the topic at hand?

Anyway, there is no point in me continuing this further. . . waste of time. Hopefully the mods will clean out your spam from this thread and the other numerous threads you spammed into.

0lumide:
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Wtf does your long diatribe have to do with this thread? Most of us here are having a reasonable conversation. You can be on both sides of this topic w/o necessarily being a villain.

Might your post not be better suited for its own separate thread? Or better yet, not posted at all?

Jul 31st 2011, 9:54 by R.C. | PENANG

SO, WHAT sort of sentence do you think a man convicted of killing someone by smashing in his skull with a stone might get in Indonesia? Life? Thirty years in prison? Twenty? Five? No. Three months, apparently.

At least, that was the sentence handed down by a court in Java on July 28th against Dani bin Misra. He was part of a frenzied mob of Sunni Muslim chauvinists, about 1,000 strong, that hacked and beat to death three members of the minority Ahmadi sect of Islam in February. Eleven others were on trial (including the cleric pictured above, white turban on the left). None of the guilty received more than six months for their crimes; none of them were even accused of murder. The ringleader was convicted of nothing more terrible than illegal possession of a machete; he got just over five months.

Considering the horror of the killings, these verdicts were risible and have been condemned as such by all and sundry—human-rights groups, the American government (which usually leans over backwards to be nice towards its new friend and the world’s largest Muslim country), the EU, as well as Indonesian civil-rights organisations.

It’s a terrible verdict for Indonesia, and for Indonesian justice. On the subject of religious tolerance—and the related matter of Islamic terrorism—it’s as if the country always takes two steps forwards and then quickly takes another step back. A few weeks ago a court finally sentenced one of the country’s most culpable terrorist leaders to a meaningful prison sentence; now another court gives these perpetrators nothing more than a slap on the wrist for what was clearly an awful murder. Furthermore, no one could have been in any doubt as to the savagery and barbarity of the attack on the Ahmadis; it was all caught on film and posted (temporarily) on YouTube.

Most worryingly, the verdicts would seem to give a virtual green light to anyone else who wants to attack the Ahmadiyah, a sect that many Muslims regard as illegitimate and heretical (they face terrible persecution in Pakistan). As Human Rights Watch has said: “The…verdict sends the chilling message that attacks on minorities like the Ahmadiyah will be treated lightly by the legal system. This is a sad day for justice in Indonesia.”

In theory the rights of the Ahmadis to freedom of worship and expression should be protected by the country’s constitution, like everyone else’s. But the government has partly gone along with the more extremist Muslims who wanted the sect banned completely; as a result, the sect has been stranded in a legal twilight zone. Many have argued that this invites attacks on the sect; these latest verdicts also point in that direction. The present government wants to be known as progressive and democratic at home and abroad—putting the Suharto years behind it, as it were—but that aspiration will remain well out of reach unless it does a great deal more to protect vulnerable minorities within its own borders.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2011/07/religious-persecution-indonesia?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/lightlyonthelynchmob

Is there anything wrong with this policy? If it is better to construct roads in the dry season, then what is the problem?

@texazzpete: you had no issue with that document on non-interest banking spend most of its time talking only about islamic banking?

So you believe that it is just purely coincidence that this form of non-interest banking is the one that Sanusi appears to be pushing?

Why does the concept of "no-interest" have to be religious rather than purely secular?

In a nutshell, why exactly do you feel comfortable with what at least seems to me to be a sectarian agenda?

In a perfect world, the FG would either:

A) do its job or
B) hand over the roads to the states and allow them to own it (thus giving them the right to put tolls to fund it, I guess?)

But unfortunately, the FG has dropped the ball.

Both Eko Ile and Desola have made great points. I don't think that there is a clearcut right answer here.

My own instinct agrees with Eko Ile. But on the other hand, I am not the one suffering right now from that road. . .if your hand is accidentally set on fire due to someone else's error, will you first seek to rescue your hand or punish the person?

So like I said, I can see good arguments either way.

Interesting

1. How many are found onshore vs. offshore?
2. How many are in each of the oil-producing states (Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, Delta, Ondo, Abia, etc?)

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer these questions and provide a reference backing up their answer.

Bayelsa doesn't have much onshore, you are saying? Wasn't there something about how it got extended past 40 nautical?

What fraction of Nigeria's 40 billion barrels (or so?) is onshore vs. offshore?

BTW, do you know what the reserves of the different states looks like? How much of Nigeria's 40 billion barrels are found onshore in Rivers State, for example?

Good move, if the money will be spent well.