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coogar: RVP still outsold rooney last season sef! i agree di maria would sell shirts but i would rather have vidal in the team now than di maria.

Vidal is independent of Di Maria.

It's like seeking foreign schools (admission) for your son and daughter at same time. If you have the money, your daughter shouldn't be waiting for your son to get admitted first. Except if you are still holding to the traditions of Akabueze village.

AirborneLacer: I reiterate, you're drunk!

How is Di Maria better than a proven forward and a proven CM?

This is just like saying Walcott who has spent most of his playing career at the wing is better than Lampard and Aguero who has no business with the flanks!

What makes Costa a proven forward?

Forget proven or unproven, Di Maria is better than them.

MrTA: Where did this myth come that we'll just recoup the money spent from shirt sales?

Watch out. We will get most of it. We sell the highest num$ber of shirts world wide or same as Madrid. Rooney use to sell highest, then RVP in 2012/13. Di Maria will boost it again now.

coogar: only elampiro would advise a homeless man on the streets to spend $3,000 gift he just got on a pair of shoes.

his homelessness would be sorted another day - the smartphone is more important than having a roof.

We get moni. Make we spend am all round. Woodward doesn't have a poverty mentality, just like Perez. These guys have been used to mega bz all their lives. We have made so much to from sponsorship.

Rooney and RVP won't save our season. We need a good forward player to help us out.

I beg make I dey ready for Falconets.

Oghos1: Spambot why me?

I repeat anyway, I'm sure elampiro won't mind us spending £350m on dimaria.

Oghos1 pls shift. When you post under this name you sound like a village babalawo ominigboo. What happened to Peuto Rico kini?

Tvegas: I wont argue about whether Di maria is better that Fab but can you confidently beat your Chest that the 72 million pounds is money well spent? Can Di maria win the balls and organise the mildfield like kroos, Alonso , Vidal or Toure will do? I suspect Woodward caved in to the pressure from fans on this one, He caved in to the pressure for big name signings and it seems at this point just any signing will do. Lets see the magic Di maria will conjure with a zero midfield.

* Buying Di Maria is independent of our midfield problem. That will be sorted separately. Gaal nows what he's doing. This isn't Moyes.

* With this signing, we have made ourselves attractive again in the market. Even, most of this money will soon be recouped from shirt sale.

AirborneLacer: You're drunk!

Kindly walk home now.

Shut up. Di Maria is far better.

Dadehmola: So it's because they implemented the ZM system, isn't it?

They conceded some silly goals from setplays-that's the point!

Like they haven't be conceding from set play before.

coogar: by finishing 4th?
oh yeah - their best season indeed.

They won a trophy.

They finished 4th 'cos Ramsey and Walcott were injured. They should have finished 3rd a worst.

coogar: it means you don't watch the other premier league games. even brendan rodgers have switched back to man to man marking.

no system is perfect but the running jump is stronger than a player standing still to jump. valencia has never been a great header so i don't even know what he was doing in the box.




fabregas is 10,000 times more intelligent than di maria. then to think we need cesc more than di maria even makes it more painful. we don't have a winger problem, what we lack is a dominant goal scoring midfielder.

May be Vidic and VDS were the ones saving us those days. Vidic just move 3 step from his position and takes charge or Van Der Sar comes out to pick or punch away half of the time. Now we get bullied. Every set play is a nervous moment.

Dadehmola: If only you knew the amount of criticism wenger got for using zonal marking system at set-plays last season, you wouldn't be talking like this.

And they had their best season in almost a decade.

Tvegas: Buying Di maria for 72 million pounds (IF you add the extra 12 million) makes me SAD,When players like Costa and fabregas sold for under 40million pounds. It shows how desperate our team has turned. And every team will try to milk us dry. I lay part of these woes at the feet of Sir Alex, the old man failed to deepen this team before leaving making the job of his successors quite difficult.

Woodward should also be investigated and fired in my opinion,how can you agree to buy fellaini for 37m, Hererra and the kindergaten cum untested luke shaw for a combined 60 million pounds? . If this guy wasnt british i would have opined that he is doing some shady deals with these spurious signings. Apology to Coogar but i must accept the fact that Rooney has not justified his salary,the guy could have turned the game for us today but he is a colossal failure very average.

Di Maria is far better than Costa and Fabregas.

There are only three players in their category of having ability to single hadedly cause havoc by carrying the ball from own half to the other end of the pitch- Ronaldo, Robben and Di Maria. Messi cannot, but he is a wizard of final 3rd.

coogar: only liverpool under benitez did zonal marking - fergie never used zonal marking....it's man to man marking. zonal marking is rubbish.

van persie has his own man to watch. the rule is pick a man & do not let him get the ball. so persie should leave his own man & track valencia's man?

if the outcome results into a pin ball in the box and the ball falls for the player van persie should be marking & that player scores, who would you blame?

I don't see other EPL players running around the way we do. They are calm and just head away. We are ridiculous with our man-marking from set plays.

Dadehmola: So which system is the best? Zonal marking??

We appear to be the only ones doing it to that degree in the EPL. When you chase an opposition around the box before the kick is hit, you lose sight of the ball while the opposing player gains advantage.

coogar: RVP can't be culpable - the defending wasn't zonal marking. it was man to man. valencia was designated to mark rodwell.

these things are practiced during training. who to mark, whose run to track & blah blah. valencia's man scored a goal - that's valencia's fault.

if it was zonal marking then 3-4 players can take the blame.

If it's man to man and the ball falls on you, won't you do something?

* I beg they should go back to zonal marking. Almost all of them were being lost by their man. It could also cause a penalty.

coogar: confident of what? like you were confident we would sign sneijder, cesc, thiago, bale, etc last season & what happened?
.

Add Messi, Ronaldo and Robben to the list.

coogar: so in a nutshell, valencia made a goal & caused a conceded goal. how was he better than young then?

RVP was also culpable for that goal.

But I don't want to blame him 'cos I have a problem with the marking system from set play. I don't see other teams doing so much man-marking near as much as we do. We run around with opponents around our box. It's easy for the opponents to lost us.

It happened to our defenders so many times last season but Dadehmola said it's the best system. I am not sure. If RVP wasn't watching his man (he too was lost by him man), he could have contested for the ball to prevent the opponent. There was no one too at the other post.

This is not to defend or blame anyone, but the system isn't okay with me.

coogar: you are a fool!
was that not written after what guillem balagué said last week that united hadn't made any official bid for di maria?

how's he fancied if we hadn't made any offer for him all summer? you have a problem with comprehension. a very big problem!



if this post preceded what you quoted then your claim is null & void. this was balagué's comment last week regarding the transfer.

Some of us knew of guillem balagué yet we were confident Di Maria was still being expected. But you wouldn't listen. ITK.

nitlad: Why una dey pay dis kain big money for Di Maria that some fellas on this board told us would come cheap cos he already asked to leave and Madrid would be desperate to sell

All along, I have being one of those who felt Di Maria was worth so much and be will have to pay that much to capture him.

coogar: you are still after di maria?
it's not happening, bro. van gaal doesn't fancy him. to be perfectly honest, i don't think he's all that too. he's a passenger in a very good side. di maria is at n'zogbia's level.

Coogar, who wrote this?











Everything you said Gaal will do, he does the opposite.





Infact you no know ball.




Ukwu!!!

coogar: i know what you mean.....



exonerate? how?
i am saying rooney & RVP should not be criticised by the same standard. rooney is match fit with a full preseason behind him. RVP didn't kick a ball since last month in brazil. rooney should be up & running but it's obvious he's past his peak.



how did gaal prove me wrong?
who said gaal won't buy di maria? i thought you have left this your art of lying cos it's been ages - are you back in the trade?

Few pages back you said Gaal isn't interested in Di Maria...blablabla.

Manchester United and Real Madrid have finally agreed a fee for Angel Di Maria's pending move to Old Trafford.

United will pay almost £60 million (€75m) upfront, with up to £12m (€15m) of add-ons and incentives attached, split into three potential payments of €5m.

The Argentina winger is expected to travel to Manchester to complete the deal on Monday and has been promised the No.7 shirt at Old Trafford. He is expected to sign a five or six-year deal.

[Source: Skysports, ESPN]

coogar: don't use collective blame here!
this is RVP's first game since holland played brazil more than a month ago.

rooney had a full preseason, this was his 6th or 7th game & he still flopped like a conference league striker. rooney will never improve - he reached his peak 8 years ago.




that was what your post implied.
and we have already concluded jones can never be a decent midfielder. he's too disillusioned to be composed & position himself to intercept.

My post implied what? So you now assume what I mean.

* There you go again, you exonerated RVP. Na you know sha. I am never going to come here and discuss Roobey vs RVP after matches. It's of no gain to me.

* You claim your ways are always right but Gaal proving all your ways wrong.

Only yesterday/today you told us Gaal won't buy Di Maria. Gaal proving you wrong since Methuselah era.

coogar: so why didn't he play in the midfield then? my opinion doesn't represent that of the club but fletcher & cleverley were preferred in the midfield. so whose opinion was represented? yours?

Has it ever been anyone's opinion that Jones play in the midfield? I don't get you.

EPL teams use same approach against us. They seat their defence so deep with their goalkeeper to get very compact against our forward. Then they hope to tear our midfield and defence apart with quick passes and speeding runs. We were better in the second half, Herrera absence and creativity was somewhat compensated for when Januzaj came in.

Rooney and RVP aren't working hard to even reach 80% of their capability. It's look somehow playing both upfront is a waste of resources because the small guys have to do the building. May be one of them should play from the wing in another formation or so. Welbeck was far more hard working. Gaal need to talk to these guys.

Let's hope Di Maria will come to lift everyone. But we need also to commence our creativity from the midfield to cause some confusion before the ball get to the striker.

One points from first two games. I think we have been in this situation before.

coogar: yes, he can do that from the defence to the half of the pitch. he's a disaster when he's asked to do it in the final third of the pitch. smalling is a better defender than jones but jones is far more comfortable on the ball than smalling.

i will still prefer smalling if an experienced defender next to him can be the dominant pair. jones will soon be sold if he doesn't specialise in one department of the team & make it his own craft. he's becoming jack of all trade, master of none!

Your opinion can never represent the opinion of the club. The only time Jones drove the ball to the final 3rd today, he did well.

PietroRico: Jones' spells in midfield has really helped him. His confidence on the ball has been top notch.

He was like this last seasob. But many people here have since concluded Jones can't be composed on the ball. He is now one of our few players who can actually run some miles with the ball, even under tight marking.

Keky: 90m Euros for Di Maria in total if we're believing Marca.

Bargain.

Transfer fee including add ons is €80m (£63.7m).

We will know tomorrow/next week. Let's relax.

montelik: When the time comes due for LVG to be criticized I won't relent but as at now. I am criticizing Woodward for the unbalanced squad and over-spending we are doing. Whether under Moyes or LVG, we have spent well over £120m and have yet to significantly improve the squad from the one he inherited. Moyes and/or LVG suggest the players, he approves them and negotiates the deal to get them. He has overspent and negotiated stupidly. Last season I remember saying after Moyes was sacked that loudly that Woodward was lucky, as he should have walked the plank as well. Woodward job isn't just sign checks, sponsors and hobnob in Florida or London. He is the overall boss, who will bare responsibility in the successes and failures on the pitch and off it.

Forget all the myths that SAF was supreme lord, or that he got his way every time at O.T. Go and read up, there were numerous instances under Martin Edwards, Peter Kenyon and David Gill (previous CEOS), when they questioned the objectives of SAF, when players SAF really wanted didn't end up at United, because they understood their jobs and weren't going to bring certain players and cause squad imbalances or pay well over the odds. Go and read up how much Gill flat at refused to pay what Spurs were asking for Berba, even though SAF was constantly on his neck to make a deal (He finally relented on deadline day). How he was the one who pushed for signing Hernadez early, even though SAF had other targets and in mind and wanted to wait till after the world cup, before Gill insisted on Hernandez.

Woodward can't do this, even though he has inherited the position along with all the attendant powers and responsibilities. Either we get someone who can do it (unlikely as favoritism got him the job in the first place), or bring in someone who can help him.

Bros na your money? Few years ago we thought Man City were just crazy with their spending.

The truth is there are some Chief Executive Officers who know only about big money ventures. When they go for a rewarding contract or business, it's all mega deal. When they go to buy, it's the best no matter how much. They believe is class and they don't compromise standard. Woodward brain must be one which has heard only mega deals all its life.

coogar: if we pay £60m for di maria then that's the end of the window. there's no way united will spend £100m upwards on 2 players. you think this is xbox's football manager?



it's not about the shirt sale.....who says vidal wouldn't recoup most of the money spent if he's signed. any of hummels, vidal, di maria would recoup any amount invested. they are marquee signings - this is why their transfer fees are high in the first place.

I think we are almost on same page.

* The £200m is not fully exhausted yet. Can't we buy Vidal or Strootman or Khedira from there?

Di Maria joined Madrid from Benfica in 2010 with a fee of £36m. In 2014 some of you guys think Madrid should sell less, even though Di Maria is at his best or reaching his best. Make una check am na.