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chrisley024: Vidic's jersey no. Let's see how it goes.
Goodluck!

This is Ferdi's number.

* why do we print two names now?

20/08/2014 19:15, Report by Communications Department

United sign Marcos Rojo from Sporting Lisbon

- Argentina international joins on five-year contract
- Nani to join Sporting Lisbon on loan

Manchester United is delighted to announce the signing of defender Marcos Rojo from Sporting Lisbon for a fee of €20m, with Nani joining the Portuguese club on a season-long loan. Marcos joins on a five-year contract.

Rojo, 24, joined Sporting from Spartak Moscow, having started his career at his home town team of Estudiantes de la Plata. Marcos has played 28 times for Argentina since making his debut three years ago and played six games, including the final, in his country's run to the recent FIFA World Cup final, scoring in the last group game against Nigeria. He was named as one of the defenders in the Castrol Index All Star Team of the tournament.

Marcos Rojo said: "It is such an honour to say that I now play for Manchester United. The Premier League is the most exciting league in the world and to have the chance to play in it for the world's biggest club is a dream for me. I am young and am very keen to continue to learn the game, so playing for such an experienced technical coach as Louis van Gaal is a fantastic opportunity for me. I have joined United to work hard with my team-mates to win trophies and I know that the manager shares that ambition."

Louis van Gaal said: "Marcos is a very gifted defender. He has played at the highest level in world football and can play either as a central defender or left-back. He has ability, physical strength and a willingness to learn that means he has a very bright future ahead of him. He had a very strong World Cup and has been playing in Europe for a couple of years now. He is a very good addition to the team."


http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Aug/Manchester-United-confirm-transfer-of-Marcos-Rojo-from-Sporting-Lisbon.aspx?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

I saw a recent picture of Anderson. He's looking trimmed. Hallelujah!

Purist: This one that all our players are dropping like flies. Last season, Moyes was the dinosaur over-training the players. Is Van Gaal a dinosaur too? Dutch fitness coach Verheijen seems to suggest so.

"The Luke Shaw case is the climax of Manchester United’s predictable pre-season injury crisis due to 'too much training too soon'."

"During the World Cup preparation, the Dutch players had to do frequent double sessions, so not surprisingly the muscle injuries accumulated…"

"At Man United, in the first few weeks, LVG has applied the same approach and, as expected, with the same result: accumulation of injuries."

http://www.squawka.com/news/dutch-fitness-guru-raymond-verheijen-slams-louis-van-gaal-over-handling-of-man-uniteds-luke-shaw/158910

...,and to think that Gaal said he has not reached the level of hardness in training he is suppose to implement.

Our players should sit up and not getting lazy. We use to have hard working players. I remember those days when Rooney would chase an opposing striker or midfielder into our area and close him down or even disposing him . Tevez too would start the defence duty from the moment United loses the ball. Tireless JS Park. Now everybody wants to play big man football, this lead to spaces everywhere for our opponents to explore.

Manchester United were turned down by Thomas Muller and Marco Reus this summer after both players rejected big money moves to Old Trafford in favour of staying with their respective clubs.

In an interview with German newspaper Bild, World Cup winner Muller revealed that he turned down a lucrative offer from United to stay with Bayern Munich.

"Of course. I was aware that I could earn more by making that transfer, the amount that foreign clubs were offering me was astronomical. But Bayern are my club, a change was not an issue for me."

Borussia Dortmund's Reus also turned down the chance to move to Old Trafford this summer, at least according to Atletico Madrid president Enrique Cerezo.

Whilst denying reports regarding his own club's alleged attempted to sign the winger, Cerezo as saying, "I don’t know where the Marco Reus rumour came from. It’s a player who, at this time, is impossible to us. He had an offer for a lot of money from Manchester United and he has not gone… we will not sign him with a lesser offer."

[Source: Bild, M.E.N, Daily Mail]

Rio Ferdinand has tipped his former club Manchester United to become champions and expects Wayne Rooney to win the Premier League's Golden Boot.

"I'm backing Manchester United to win the league,

"Manchester United will win because they have a good manager. Wayne Rooney is a good choice as captain. This is his 10th year and he will be top scorer in the league this season.

"Obviously they need their best players fit. Last season Robin van Persie did not play much but he could also be a top scorer."

[Source: London Evening Standard]

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*BREAKING NEWS*
Marouane Fellaini suffered a knock to the ankle during training yesterday. There are no official news on the severity of the injury yet, but early reports suggest he could be out for 4-6 months.

Napoli are waiting for updates as a loan move could now be in doubt.

As we see am.


* Should Nani pick form, cn we bring him back in January?

RuuDie: Oh my... it must be a long-term side effect of 'rigorous' David Moyes' training regime!!!

Fellaini has been with Moyes since Methuselah.


Moreover, Gaal has also started giving hard training since they left USA.

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montelik: If we sign Di Maria for anywhere close to the figures being bandied around, I will lose what little confidence I have in Woodward and serious confidence in LVG. We spent £27m on an ill suited Fellaini, then £37m on an unneeded Mata, Now we want to spend £45+m on a winger when we plan on playing with wingbacks and no wingers, even though we have the likes of Valencia, Young, Zaha still in the squad. This would be basically flushing £100m+ down the toilet, while ignore the need to strengthen the spine of the side, central defense and central midfield.

Pls, anything now that will make us to finish top 4.

Among the top teams, our play was the weakest. Something drastic has to be done.

chrisley024: How?

If we play 4 at the back, how are we going to play Shaw and Rojo?

The team is unbalanced, and it looks like it's being unbalanced the more.

Anyway, Gaal is an experienced coach.

Reports are that Di Maria has been given the clearance to move for £50m


E be like say Woodward don vex, after it was reported on Sunday that Gaal has requested for three players. One defender, one DM and Di Maria.

coogar: who put your mouth in the issue? very soon you would say village witches are after you. dayokanu & i have been arguing over the net spend in the last 5 years before today so shut the fück up & don't talk to me until you are spoken to.

Yes sir.

debosky: What nonsense. Valencia is still around because he is injured and because he will be played as a wingback. Besides, only players desired by other clubs will move, or is Smalling now a better defender than Vidic because Vidic moved on? Elampiro sense sha.

You are brainwashed with jeek/bleach.

* Nani is desired yet we will pay his salary?

* Nani said previously that going back to play in Portugal is a retrogression in his career because he has past that stage.

* Valencia was given a new 4 years contract by Gaal- his first 'catch'.

* Vidic had no future with us if we must progress. Same with Evra. What kind of example did you even mention here. No correlation. Apples and oranges.

coogar: real madrid
09/10 - £149m
10/11 - £73m
11/12 - £41m
12/13 - £0m
13/14 - £46m
14/15 - £80m

man utd
09/10 - +£67m
10/11 - £9m
11/12 - £36m
12/13 - £53m
13/14 - £67m
14/15 - £73m

madrid's net spend is £389m in the last 5 years & united's net spend is £171m in the last 5 years.

all info gathered from transfermarkt!

You no know book.

Transfer window they said. Not 'last 5 seasons'.







Eze goes to school.

coogar: a goat pissed on elampawa's head as a child. virtually everyone is against him, including the "spamboat"

perhaps the "spamboat" recognises 99% of what elampawa types are pure fückery. the "spamboat" is frustrated with such an amount of pukery & it autobans elampawa.

Spambot can be invoked by the mods. It's a weapon in their hands.

After many months of posting, and having a style of arranging my work, antispambot ought not come near me any more.

BinghiNya: Nani out, that is a very welcome news. Nani is so good he is going out on loan

Welcome back!


Even though I am a fan of Nani, I must say you were vindicated at last. SAF always said he preferred Val among all his wingers. He also gave him the no.7. Moyes preferred Val. Gaal prefers Val. Gaal's forerunners told us he would sell Valencia. I remember what you said, that Nani can never bench Valenica in Man United.

You were in the minority but you have proven that opinion based on majority is not the fact.


Kudos!

Purist: elampiro, you seem to suffer from a very severe case of acute persecution complex. You seem to always somehow perceive the whole world to be against you even in simple arguments. You wallow in so much self-pity, it's almost unreal. You must be one of those people who constantly rant about imaginary "haters" and "enemies". You need to grow the fück up and quit thinking everyone hates you just because they point out something that seems unfavourable to you.

DayoKanu/raumdeuter until recently was a one-man army in this section for years. On every thread he goes, he is opposed vehemently and insulted immeasurably; yet I have never for once seen him play the victim. He mans up, stands his ground and doesn't allow things to get at him. Heck, I think he has even won Poster of the Year on at least one occasion that I remember and he has been nominated several times.

Before you joined this thread, there was a rule in this section that once a thread reaches 100 pages, it will be locked and a fresh one will be created. If my memory serves me right, United has had the most number of locked threads. There is no doubt that you and coogar have contributed your share to the traffic on this particular thread but even before your arrival, Manchester United threads have always thrived and that's exactly what I was pointing out to Nihilist.

Perhaps you have a persistent need to feel special, and I do not intend to take that away from you. But please, quit this thinking that people are out to deliberately discredit you, especially when it concerns something as superficial as your perceived influence on a faceless forum.

@red part, this is exactly what I wrote:



elampiro, man up and quit whining like a b!tch every gaddem time..!!

You are brainwashed with OMO.

Why won't I complain when i am the only one being hit by spamboat. That is deliberate from the mods. They always are on opposite/rival side the few times that have contributed to my argument.

coogar: i can't see anything below....
besides that, you talk a lot of nonsense to be taken seriously. there has never been a time united threads lag behind chelsea. it's the cut off point that varies & the sudden change of mind that seun had to stop cutting off threads at 100 pages. nobody posts on chelsea threads - historically, only arsenal threads have stayed above united's until their fans could no longer bear the shame of losing emirates cup.



are you factoring SAF's retirement, the hullabaloo of who should be hired, the frenzy of winning our 21st league title, the increase in the number of the united fans that must have joined that period?



this has nothing to do with you - more like the lack of meaningful activities around united that time. no one knew who you were or what part of nigeria you came from.



you are a troglodyte. the following reasons were responsible for the surge:

•SAF's retirement
•SAF's supposed predecessor
•rooney's transfer request
•united's champions league exit
•united's 21st league title against all odds
•more united members joining NL



all these arguments had occurred even before i joined. there's nothing special about rooney/berba argument. the best debate on this thread till date was nani/valencia argument between me & starboard. it even attracted other fans like debosky, dayokanu, etc and that was when facebook was still your sanctum!



the appointment of moyes alone turned many pages. he didn't have to lose the league to make fingers jab on the keyboard. his preseason failure was a big talking point. the fact that he was chosen ahead of several managers was a talking point. rooney's rumours departure to chelsea was another talking point!

elampiro, you have no single bearing on the number of pages that has been amassed here over the years. we can run an experiment. deactivate your account now and come back in december. let's see how many pages would amass by the time you get back.




shut up & stop lying to us.....
which 1,300 pages are you talking about?? so elampiro who no one knows outside this thread is responsible for the surge? you are starting to embarrass yourself in public. why not just say you are the reason NL has 1 million members.

edo tout feeling funky!

It's no longer Moyes losing matches+band boys. It's now about UCL exit and blablabla. Ukwu!!!

When I came here my first argument was on DDG.

Anyway no need sef.

joeace2020: Can someone shut this elampiro up already...

You can prompt the mod to activate/invoke the spambot on my user name.




















Before then.... I log out.








Enemies....

coogar: where's the proof you generated 100 pages in one month this year. what event led to such surge? how many posters were involved? how many posts did you make in those 100 pages?

look at this baba suwe claiming to be lebron james. why not go ahead and claim there was no man utd thread at all before you arrived. fact is more united fans have joined NL, strange things like finishing 7th was also a factor. it's got nothing to do with elampiro & it's variants.

Dec 31 2013 we were on page 700.
This thread got to about page 1,300 before. This meant minimum average of 140 pages per month for the first 5 or 6 months this year. Except you get a previous similar stat to evidence your case, give up already.

coogar: no, it didn't
the number of pages have always been very high long before you found NL. i just showed you an example in a link in my previous post. 100 pages in less than 2 calendar months was the going rate before you came.

how can you lay claims to what you are not?

You are even quoting from 2009 when you had many memebers from what I have seen. But when I got here, this thread was trailing far behind that of Chelsea. But before Moyes kicked a ball in the premier league, it has reached the same number of pages with Chelsea, even though you opened this thread before Chelsea's. See below:
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Before Moyes lost a match, Man United thread had overtaken Chelsea.

August 18th, Chelsea page 350.

August 18th, Man United page 350.

Within a short time I arrived, Man United thread had double its number of pages.

I joined March 8th and it was on page 169. I got angry with Coogar's insults and left the thread on Mar 15. From when joined to when I decided to leave temporary, it was 7 days. The thread ran 10 pages that period ( page 169 to 179)

April 18th I returned. I had been absent for a period of 35 days, Page ran only 9 days in my absence. (Page 179 to 188)

From April 18th to August 17th which is the day Moyes played and won his first league game, Man United thread added 170 pages and caught up with Chelsea at 350 pages. This means in 14 months without elampiro, this thread added 180 pages. The next four months with elampiro it added 170 pages.

There were many pages of argument on performance between Rooney and Berba/RVP, etc. Owen Hargreaves in the UCL matches. Owen Hargeaves style vs Scholes+Carrick, within that four months period.

Without Moyes losing a match, the thread had caught up with Chelsea's.

Band boys don't take more than a page.

Bang boys ko bad boys ni
Moyes results ko moyes losses ni

coogar: this is a classic example
https://www.nairaland.com/226259/manchester-united-fan-thread-forever

100 pages between january 16 & march 14. that's 100 football pages in 57 days & you were nowhere near any internet service in those days. elampawa, stop claiming what you are not.

100 pages in 57days, that is small na. I guess that was your highest before I arrived, unlike when we generated 100 pages in less than month this year.

coogar: so elampiro is claiming to be the reason united thread has more traffic? lololololol - you are the most hilarious human being on the planet. this thread has been buzzing long before you knew about the internet.

there have been intelligent debates. guests like ibime, dayokanu, ritchboy, debosky, etc come here to drop insightful posts every now and then to drive traffic.....

Must everything ascribed to me be countered? Did I claim anything on my own? I didn't even think it to mean anything until someone said this thread had more pages before I joined. .... And it turned out to be a lie. Just to disprove any claims given to me.

I am not talking about quality or intelligent debate. But why do they have to lie just to discredit things awarded to me. It's not today I start hearing such comments as elampiro and coogar debates alone account for half of the pages here.

The number of pages went up astronomically as soon as I arrived.

nitlad: While I agree that Moyes' contribution to your thread's 'development' is immeasurable, the bold na lie! Na Chelsea thread be HQ!

Ogbeche started your thread Feb 2012. March 2013 na page 100-something una still dey.

ChelseaBMW started we own April 2012 (2 months later than yours). By the same March 2013 we were already knocking on 300 pages!

So despite the headstart, na we bin dey reign. Na Moyes just help una ministry. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, ask dem Band Boys.

Mooyes losing matches had little to do with traffic here. How many pages do band boys occupy after each game? I abegi, they always must discredit anything ascribed to the so much hated elampiro. To the extent that they will ban me when I say the truth.

If I sat for one our, I should completely refute the claim that it has nothing to do with Moyes losing matches.

Moyes lost matches ko band boys ni.

coogar: our biggest issue is our injury curse. we can sign the whole madrid players & barca players, of what use would they be if they cannot be fit to play. as we speak, we have 8 or 9 first team players injured & that has been the case for more than 7 seasons now.

according to injuryroom, this has been our record since 06/07. the importance of the player injured is put in the bracket

2007/08 - 8th worst (6th worst)
2008/09 - 7th worst (3rd worst)
2009/10 - 3rd worst (2nd worst)
2010/11 - 7th worst (5th worst)
2011/12 - 1st worst (1st worst)
2012/13 - 5th worst (5th worst)
2013/14 - 7th worst (2nd worst)

how can we compete with this kinda horrible luck? the season has barely started and we are 2nd worst already. we need to address this ish. we lost the league in 11/12 cos of injuries.

For once Coogar said the truth. Allellujah!!!

This is your best post I have seen on nairaland.

elampiro: Let's not blame too much, without the red card United were heading to the quarter finals and SAF would have been hailed. When I saw the line up, I wondered why Rooney had to be on the bench. But at half time, it was clear United were on course. Nani, Cleverly, Welbeck, Giggs did well. Giggs recovery to assist defence was marvelous, with the speed of a teenager. Nani and Welbeck were causing problem to Madrid on the left, Nani retained, ran and swaggered in, Welbeck speed was a problem too and Giigs and Cleverly provided options behind them with some nice overlapping runs from Rafael and Evra.

It was only RVP who was quiet just as Ronaldo and Di Maria were clipped by United until the red. But no coach on earth would have left RVP out of the game, you are talking of a player who takes 3/4 of his chances or sometimes half chances. Rooney is also powerful, he is the hub, the player who holds united play together, he alone can dictate the direction of a game when fit, but I think SAF needed a tight defence, little midfield action and head on attacking. He went for strikers who can run straight at Madrid defenders and even outpace them with dribbling runs. Nani, Welbeck and RVP were the preferred. Giggs too has been showing class in that direction recently. Playing Rooney and Kagawa would have meant some possessing football in the attacking midfield which will allow Madrid to regroup quickly. It was just a tactical decision.

What pained me was that it was going to be Nani's night. He would have raised his CV with that match, I think he was having a great night on a big occasion. He always had the potentials.

My third post same page 169.

I met some people blaming RVP for his missed chances again in that 2nd leg at OT. Coogar tried to defend RVP but he blamed Giggs. Coogar felt Rooney should have made the difference if he had been selected ahead of Welbeck.

I remember one active babe then Crystal.
Now let me see where Chelsea thread was at the time.

elampiro: I am happy to find this trend. Wow!

SAF just confirmed that Rooney is going nowhere.

Giggs did extremely well on Tuesday. He ran all through like a teenager. Nani, Wellbeck and Giggs did well in retaining possession and pacing play till the red card. Cleverly was also brilliant that period. After the red card, Welbeck and Cleverly could not lift themselves to the occasion, Giggs remain resolute and did well again when Rooney, valencia and Young came in.

The problem was United conceding too quickly after the red card, it didn't allow SAF to read the situation to know how to make changes and change the formation. The red card was a shock to the players and coach, perhaps, as someone said, if United had an experienced midfield player, they should have soaked the pressure better than Cleverly and Welbeck.

With the options available, Rooney should have been quickly introduced to retain possession upfront. Modric was given too much time to shoot, Carrick could have done better. Rafael lost sight of Ronaldo for the second goal. The second goal could have been avoided. How Evra allows so much space to his left, allowing opponents to penetrate that area is sometimes ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, Evra is very good, but he stays inside the 18 box most times instead of the wide, allowing strikers to push in easily. I remember a UCL semi final against Chelsea 2011 where Evra was out due to suspension, Evans didn't allow any nonsense from that end. He dealt with opponents right close to the touch line.

Finally, on 11. Vs 11, SAF would have been termed a genius for the tactics he deployed. Imagine, without the red card, SAF had the fresh Rooney and Valencia at 70th minute.

Sometimes football is luck. This time we were not lucky, no thanks to the centre referee, Plaini's agent.

My first post on this thread. 3 days after we lost to Madrid.

Dadehmola: In short you want our 37m January signing out of the team?

I have not displaced him. But the more reason we need Di Maria. Performances like last Saturday needed some reshufflement. Mata out and formation and Rooney drops or formation change.