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Dadehmola: You don start again ba?

I always say the truth and after a while I get vindicated all round.

There's something about Rooney, Mata and RVP together. I don't want to say it until we get new midfielders and I have to reaccess the situation.


If we had someone like Isco in place of Mata, we will play far better. ........... For now, may be Rooney should be played in the wing to explore his energy (work rate) for the general benefit of the team. Everyone is becoming an hyena.

It looks like Coogar's boys are getting the axe everywhere.

Gerard Piqué, Juan Mata and Fernando 9 Torres are among the casualties in the latest Spain squad

Aug 29, 2014 14:57:00

La Roja bid to bounce back from World Cup humiliation with a fresh bunch of players, with Vicente del Bosque hoping they can inject some energy into his team

Vicente del Bosque has culled eight of the players who flopped as Spain crashed out of World Cup 2014 at the group stage for his latest squad, including Gerard Pique, Juan Mata and Fernando Torres.

Pique came under fire for his performances in Brazil, Mata has yet to blossom since joining Manchester United while Torres' omission is hardly a surprise as he has looked a shadow of the striker he once was throughout his stay at Chelsea.

David Villa announced his international retirement during the World Cup, with Barcelona veteran Xavi following suit shortly afterwards, while Xabi Alonso confirmed he would also focus on club duties ahead of his move from Real Madrid to Bayern Munich.

Pepe Reina's move to Bayern has not helped his efforts at being kept in the Roja set up and his new Allianz Arena team-mate Javi Martinez is left out due to a serious injury picked up earlier in August.

Among the fresh faces in Del Bosque's squad to face France in a friendly and Macedonia in a European Championship qualifier in early September are Santiago Bernabeu struggler Isco and Camp Nou defender Marc Bartra.

A super season with Atletico Madrid has seen Raul Garcia given a nod to join the selection by the World Cup 2010-winning coach, who has also given the chance of gaining senior international debuts to Espanyol goalkeeper Kiko Casilla and Athletic Bilbao centre-back Mikel San Jose.

Diego Costa's knock which makes him a doubt to play for Chelsea this weekend against Everton has not stopped Del Bosque from picking the converted Spaniard in his 23-man party.

"This is a squad for the present, but designed looking toward the future," Del Bosque told reporters. "This is a special list given recent events.

"It comes after our poor showing at the World Cup and we have to look ahead."

Squad in full:

Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Kiko Casilla (Espanyol), David de Gea (Manchester United).

Defenders: Jordi Alba (Barcelona), Raul Albiol (Napoli), Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea), Marc Bartra (Barcelona), Daniel Carvajal (Real Madrid), Juanfran (Atletico Madrid), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Mikel San Jose (Athletic Bilbao).

Midfielders: Sergio Busquets (Barcelona), Cesc Fabregas (Chelsea), Raul Garcia (Atletico Madrid), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona), Ander Iturraspe (Athletic Bilbao), Koke (Atletico Madrid).

Forwards: Santi Cazorla (Arsenal), Diego Costa (Chelsea), Isco (Real Madrid) Paco Alcacer (Valencia), Pedro (Barcelona), David Silva (Manchester City).
http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2014/08/29/5068464/pique-torres-mata-dropped-in-new-look-spain-squad?CMPID=FBINT_140829_SPAIN

Xabi Alonso competes move to Bayern Munich.

1. Shinji Kagawa is set to have a medical at Borussia Dortmund today.
- Report.
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2. Shinji Kagawa to quit Manchester United after accepting Borussia Dortmund transfer

Friday 29 Aug 2014 10:14 am

Shinji Kagawa has agreed to leave Manchester United (Picture: Getty)

Shinji Kagawa is set to complete a move to Borussia Dortmund after agreeing terms with the club to quit Manchester United.

Dortmund were reported to have made an £8million bid for Kagawa yesterday, with United boss Louis van Gaal happy to let him go.

And now German newspaper Der Western says the Japanese attacker has now accepted a contract offer from Dortmund is set to seal a move in the coming days.

Valencia had made a rival offer for his services but he was always set on returning to his former club, with senior Dortmund officials now in England to finalise everything.
http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/29/shinji-kagawa-to-quit-manchester-united-after-accepting-borussia-dortmund-transfer-4849943/

Austeenx: `[color=orange]Coogar, congratulations. We will all watch Nani play against Chelsea. [/color]

If Nani could revive his career, it would be so nice. I like that he wasn't sold.

Reports from Germany suggest that United and Dortmund have come to an agreement for the transfer of Shinji Kagawa.

Dortmund legend Lars Ricken after being asked about Kagawa: "We should wait for a surprise in the next few days."

[via @luc_bvb, ruhrnachrichten.de]

MrTA: Zaha back to palace.
Rumours of Villa bidding for Cleverley
Rumours of Juve and Valencia after Hernandez
I still hope Welbeck stays even though he's heavily linked with Spurs.

This is he overhaul or clear out of players Moyes often referred to. But we were being told 'these same players won the league last season'. I think SAF just knew how to use them, but even at that the signs were obvious...

Gaal spoke as if United still has to spend much, may be not now though. I like it sha, we are beginning to make a statement and luring the best to Old Trafford. We are restoring the confidence to investors in Wall Street. No more such comments as 'Di Maria, no it won't happen' Vidal, no it can't happen'. Now any thing is possible.

Kudos to Woodward, Gaal and everyone involved. Congratulation to the fans. I am particularly happy becuase I have been a big fan of Di Maria. I don't mind now if we sell one of Mata, Rooney, RVP.


I love Manchester United.

14.23 He doesn't speak English yet but ADM has given his first interview as a United player.



"When I was young in Argentina I used to look at the Premiership and I was drawn to Manchester United, so I have always thought it would be a nice club to come to.

"I want to achieve great things with Manchester United and I would like to win many trophies with them. One of the objectives and one of the goals would be to actually get back into the Champions League.

"Lately I have been playing in midfield, on the left hand side, and I was feeling quite cofirtable there. I think I’m going to play in the same role for Manchester United."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11061028/Angel-Di-Maria-unveiled-by-Manchester-United-live.html

15.20: Asked where he prefers to play: "I come here to work for the team and I am prepared to play in any position the manager wants me to play in."

15.15 Is LVG shocked by the club's decline? "I don't want to answer that out of respect for Moyes and Mr Ferguson."

He bigs up the fans for the singing at MK Dons and asks them to be patient. "A lot of money needs to be spent. in spite of preseason wins in the US the team won't be built in a month."

15.14 "United is a great club and has already won many trophies. It was my boyhood dream to play for United. I come here to help raise their game help them to be great again and to win many trophies with them."

15.12 "What was the attraction of coming to the club? " asks Oggy.

ADM "I wanted to come here to help the team to get into the CL and I think that i can help. I am very pleased that the manager chose me to come to Man Utd. We have to work for a miracle. Di Maria's arrival is not a miracle."

15.09 "I only buy players that can improve our philosophy…(also) I can change the system with him and maybe we will do that in future. Maybe even during a match. He played at Real Madrid not only as a wide wing player but also in midfield. This is why we are convinced he shall succeed."

15.08 So no questions allowed about that letter to Real fans says the club PR.

LVG: "We have many class players but Angel can play in the interests of the team."

"Sadly the time has come for me to leave, but I would like to make it clear that it was never my wish," he wrote.

"After winning the 10th Champions League I went to the World Cup with the hopes of receiving a gesture form the board, something that never arrived. Much has been said and many lies have been told. There has been a desire all along to attribute to me a desire to leave the club, something that has never been the case.

"The only things I ever asked for is what I considered to be just and fair. There are many things that I value and many of them have nothing to do with my salary. I hope to find them at Manchester United, one of the biggest clubs in the world and one with which I hope I can make history."

Angel Di Maria unveiled by Manchester United: as it happened

By Cameron Macphail

3:29PM BST 28 Aug 2014


15.44 It's wrap.

Here are the main bullet points.

LVG says players will leave by deadline day on Monday

Herrera remains injured & Rojo is still waiting on his work permit

"I'll play anywhere LVG wants me too" says ADM

Cristiano told him about the no.7 shirt importance

Join Giles Mole now for the Champions League draw which take place at 4.45pm UK time

(Sorry United fans. Maybe next year)

15.42 And here he is.

Welcome to Old Trafford, Angel. #WelcomeDiMaria pic.twitter.com/s22CJ3CHT0

— Manchester United (@ManUtd) August 28, 2014

15.31 A bit of good news regarding incoming transfers: "The club will [announce] when the time's there. Players will leave, others will come."

15.29 More bad news. "Marcos Rojo is working on his permit. He must go abroad for it. He is abroad in the [Argentine] embassy in Madrid but it’s taking more time than expected."

15.27 Van Gaal is being pressed on the team's failings. "We have no problem when the opponent has the ball…but our problem is when we have the ball and have to build up the play."

And the team is beset by a raft of injuries. "Herrera is injured so we have 10 injuries, 1 more than last week." Sean Dyche is sharpening his claret knives...

15.24 "He shall be indeed a player who can enjoy the fans…(sic)…but he is a modest guy and he wants to work," says LVG. "Last year he played 52 matches and gave 22 assists…how many players can do that? He is a social human being."

15.23 On the importance of the number 7: "I am aware of its importance. Cristiano Ronaldo spoke to me at Real Madrid and explained. I hope I can live up to it."

And the price tag? "It does not bother me that they’ve paid £60m. I come here to work and do the best I can for Manchester United."

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Gaal: Di Maria will be my new Robben

Submitted by Tribal Football Staff 2014-08-27T11:59:19+00:00

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Manchester United boss Louis van Gaal has explained why he wanted the signing of former Real Madrid winger Angel di Maria.

Van Gaal has likened Di Maria to Bayern Munich star Arjen Robben.

"I have bought Di Maria because he can play inside and wide," confirmed van Gaal at a press conference following the Capital One Cup exit at the hands of MK Dons. "It's very handy is that for a coach.

"So maybe you remember when I was trainer-coach of Bayern Munich, I bought Arjen Robben, also in late August. He could also play on the wings and inside so then I have always the opportunity to change [tactics] but that is a process."

However, van Gaal is not sure whether he will alter his system and formation to accommodate the South American talent. When asked if he may switch to a 4-3-3, he replied: "That’s the process. I cannot clarify because we have to see in the process what we are doing. Exactly what I am saying is you cannot click your fingers and switch to another system. You are working and have to train with it.

"It’s a matter of time because the process needs time and we shall see if, with Di Maria, we have to change the system or not. I think he shall contribute very much in our way of playing, he is also a creative player. I think that he can contribute and that’s very important but we don’t want expect, from tomorrow, that the world has changed – no. He needs to get used to the culture of the Premier League and to the philosophy of Manchester United."

Van Gaal added: "He was at my hotel and I spoke very shortly and he said he was physically well. I have to see that [for myself] as he didn’t train today. Tomorrow, he shall participate in our training session. I shall see and speak more with him."

 
For the big stories and the banter follow us on Twitter: @tribalfootball

.http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/man-utd-boss-van-gaal-di-maria-will-be-my-new-robben-4037535


* Thank you Gaal. You are making me to believe again.

DiMaria on joining Manchester United:
"I’m very pleased to play for United…I wanted to come here even though they’re not playing Champions League. I wanted to help the team to get in and win the Champions League.

"I've come to United to help the team raise their game and become an important team once again. I want to win many trophies with them."

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"He can accelerate our play and he fits in our philosophy. I have spoken already about his way of playing in the interests of the team that I like and he can accelerate our play and our style." Gaal

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More on transfers from van Gaal:
"I cannot talk transfers, because the price will be raised. We cannot react on every rumour but also players shall go. Maybe after this weekend, we will have another group. The club will announce when the time is there. Players will leave. Others will come."

On injuries:
Some players will return after the International break. Rojo is in Madrid working on his work permit, he will hopefully have it by friday 12pm. Di Maria does NOT need a work permit as he holds an Italian passport.

If football was about keeping faith and experimenting, then Blackett, James, Januzaj and Powell would start all our matches for Gaal.

Matic and Sturridge wouldn't have been sold by Chelsea.



I beg make I sleep jor. I know say when I wake up I go see ur response, then I go reply.

Did you just imply we shouldn't have recalled Scholes to resurrect our title hope of 2011/12?

Coogar, you have forgotten we were not in the league of 2011/12 to experiment. We were in contention and SAF used his best and most reliable legs at the time. Same legs who were second best in Europe.

coogar: how's pogba 6th choice when anderson & cleverley were out injured? scholes had retired, giggs was a liability in the midfield. only carrick & fletcher were a bit functional.

pogba & morrison were ripe to be promoted that year. SAF messed up & he's the reason our midfield is in a sorry state. he let his undying love for scholes cloud his judgement. he sacked keane cos of fletcher but he sacrificed pogba for a 37-year old scholes.

can you see the irony?



but he still ended up doing father christmas, didn't he? we were 8 points clear of city with 6 games to go. city ate up the deposit & we ended up with nothing.

it then means - fergie not promoting pogba backfired. his only saving grace was he won it a season later in style with the help of van persie. the midfield was still a mess that year with zombies like phil jones making a mockery of the sweet memories of keane, robson, hargreaves in our midfield.

* I have given you the timeline of our matches, it is unbelievable you still think there was space for Pogba before Dec 31st or when Scholes returned. Before Dec 31st, we had at least three midfielders in virtually every game with one or two on the bench. There was no reason to call up Pogba. Even in about three occasions we use Jones before Dec 31, won our matches except the draw at Anfied.

* We couldn't have use Pogba when we chase behind City for most part of the season and when we needed to catch up with goals difference too.

* Our midfielders were Scholes, Fletcher, Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson, Jones, Gibson, Giggs. We won all the way with these guys. We had at least 3 or 4 of them available for virtually all the matches.

Overmars:

"There’s some rumblings around Daley, some clubs enquired, but there is no concrete offer. And with Manchester United, there is no contact at all," he told De Telegraaf.

“We believe that we currently have a strong team and want Daley to stay for another year.

“Only if the absolute price is paid is a transfer negotiable.

“Daley’s management know how we feel at the moment. Next year we will have a much more lenient policy, we are willing to talk with Daley and we will settle for a reasonable price."
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/no-man-united-offer-blind-7678405

coogar: who was fletcher benching in 2002/3 when we had proper midfielders in their prime? you are not making any sense - it's either pogba was ready or not.

if SAF thought pogba was ready, he would have fielded him in those games where we have already gone 2 or 3 goals up. he knew how to blood a useless fletcher, why did he forget his formula for pogba?

You are the one not making sense.

Pogba couldn't even make the bench in our matches then. We had senior players/midfielders on the bench. Is football Father Christmas to please someone who was a 6th choice midfielder? Why didn't we see Matic for Chelsea those days before he left?

SAF should have done Father Christmas for Pogba when we needed to catch City on goals difference?

coogar: you keep tying yourself in a knot? why wasn't pogba played long before 31st of december? that's the question we have been asking you & you keep jumping from sapele to benin.

Who should Pogba have benched before 31st of December? We won with Anderson/Cleverley, Fletcher/Cleverley, Fletcher/Anderson, Fletcher /Carrick, Fletcher/Jones, Cleverley/Jones. With Jones we only drew away at Liverpool.

With above combination, we had Fletcher as the first choice with one of Ando/Cleverley/Carrick on thebench.

coogar: yes, we lost with scholes/hargo but we knew we gave it our best. having pogba on the bench & losing left a feeling that we could have done better to stem the attack of blackburn fc!

No. Without many regulars, playing Pogba would have made us look like our selection against MK Dons yesterday. Pogba's inclusion would hav e downgraded us to a mediocre completely.

coogar: wise choice?
and we lost 2-3? how's that a wise choice? the result alone told us SAF brain-farted!

Lol

Like we didn't lose with Scholes/Carrick or even Hargreaves.

Rooney was missing in that match, we could have won it even with the make shift.

coogar: you are still arguing like a camel. how would macheda feel if he's left on the bench(after being promised matches) with gary neville or oshea being played ahead of him in the striking position?

Even you wouldn't have played Pogba in that one off match.

Our defenders were injured and SAF need to cover the front of the back four defensively. Pogba was the worst choice for that job considering he hadn't EPL experience and his defence awareness was zero. Rafael and Park were a wise choice.

coogar: nani, tevez, ronaldo & welbeck are enough forwards. there's even ji sung park on the bench. it means nani & park could have played as wingers with ronaldo & tevez playing as strikers on the day.

we could have gone 4-3-3 with giggs, tev & ronaldo too & there wouldn't be a single need to use macheda. the analogy of pogba's case here is putting macheda on the bench while neville & o'shea are preferred to him as a striker.

what SAF did to pogba was humiliating & career-wrecking. preferring rafael & js park to pogba in the midfield was an abomination. SAF was one of the major reasons we lost the title in 11/12

* You said we could have...... That said it all. SAF was without Rooney and Berba. He had exactly 13 senior players to start the game, so he made the bench up with What next? He made the bench up with players from the reserve- Martin, Eckesley. Macheida and Welbeck.


* In 2008-9, Welbeck was being called up to play from the wing in the Carling cup games. Mecheda was ahead of him in striking position choice. Welbeck and Macheda were on same level trying to break into the senior team.

* Pogba is confused. Against Blackburn, Anderson was on the bench too. That was a one of case and SAF is known for such selections on few occasions. He defeated Arsenal 2-0 in the Carling cup by playing the twins in the wing. Why did SAF not pull from the academy?

Wilfried Zaha has returned to Crystal Palace on loan with a view to a permanent move
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Angel di Maria will be officially unveiled at 3pm (UK time) tomorrow at a press conference.

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Juventus have made an enquiry about the availability of Javier Hernandez after Arsenal stalled on the proposed loan of Lukas Podolski to the Italian giants.

Louis van Gaal looks prepared to let the Mexico striker leave Manchester United with Angel di Maria now completed from Real Madrid and the likes of Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie remaining the Dutchman's clear first-choice strikers.

And with a top-quality defensive midfielder still desperately needed at Old Trafford, Van Gaal could yet use Juve's interest in Hernandez as bait in a move for Arturo Vidal.

SkyItalia are reporting that United want 10m euros for a loan deal.

[Source: SkyItalia, Daily Mail, Evening Standard, Daily Star, Telegraph, Independent, Mirror]

PietroRico: lol. All those stories are unnecessary bros.
Chances presented themselves in abundance yet pogba wasn't handed enough opportunity.

He got pissed, left for juve and instantly became a star in his very next club.

That's the summary of the whole issue.
I'm not cut out for marathon arguménts.

There was never going to be any opportunity for Pogba when we had Fletcher whom Mourinho said was a great miss for Man UNITED IN ucl FINAL OF 2011. He played most matches of 2011 and got a pair of either Ando or Cleverley or Carrick or Jones. 2012 Scholes returned.

If it's so easy, Chelsea would have played Matic when he was first with them. Same with Courtois. These guys, as Pogba, were not ready at the time even though they had great potentials and could perform well for some other clubs.

Man United was the second best team in 2011, and the players who made it so were still very much it form. Who was Pogba?

coogar: why didn't SAF replace cleverley with pogba in the next game after we had beaten blackburn by 5-0? you are arguing backwards - we are asking you why did it take the eve of the new year that season before pogba made it to the united bench? you are telling us meaningless stories.

we had [b]rooney, berbatov, [/b]tevez & ronaldo when macheda was introduced. none of then had to be injured for months before macheda got his dream debut - why was the progress of pogba/morrison deliberately truncated by SAF? that's the question you should answer.

Is this your response? lol

Macheda got to th bench because there was no senior striker for a substitute duty. Rooney and Berba were not available.

Man United 3 Villa 2 ....Sun 05Apr 2009

E van der Sar, G Neville, J O'Shea, J Evans, P Evra, Nani (F Macheda , 61), M Carrick, D Fletcher, C Ronaldo, R Giggs, C Tevez (D Welbeck, 87)
Subs not used: R Eckersley, B Foster, Park Ji-Sung, D Gibson, L Martin

PietroRico

I will like your opinion sir.

Pogba's first call up for the league was against Blackburn on December 31st. By 14th January, Scholes was back to pair Carrick . Leaving out Fletcher, Anderson and Jones who had won many matches for us in the middle of the park prior to that time.

The question is, was Pogba hoping SAF bench Scholes and Carrick for him, not to talk of Fletcher who was in the form of his life at the time?

In the whole of 2011/12 we lost only 5 matches. Two of them against league Champion, Man City.

Can anyone tell me from below timeline where Pogba would have been used as our midfielder?

I just had a little time to review 2011/12 season.
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Anderson and Cleverly did not injure at same time. Their first separation came in our 3-1 win over Chelsea in the league on sept 18th 2011. Fletcher had returned.

After the above, Fletcher became the regular or first choice midfielder. Fletcher was in his best form ever at the time. Fletcher starts with Anderson/Cleverley/Carrick with one of the other two on the bench.

15th Oct 2011 Liverpool 1 Man United 1. Fletcher and Jones in midfield while Carrick and Anderson were on the bench.

Next match was Fletcher and Anderson which was lost to City at OT.

The following match was Fletcher and Cleverley which was a one nil win victory for us at Everton.

This continued until Carrick started coming into the picture around November 19th.

The first time I saw Pogba on the bench was our two nil win over Otelu when Anderson and Rooney played midfied.

On 22nd November draw against Benfica, Carrick paired Fletcher. Then Gibson was back from injury onto the bench.

10 Dec 2011, Phil Jones and Carrick in the middle in a 4_1 win over Wolves. Gibson and Fletcher were on the bench.

Next was two nil win at QPR with Carrick and Jones in the middle

Next 5 nil win at Fulham was Carrick and Giggs.

Next was 5 nil win over Wigan, Carrick and Gibson

Pogba first call up for the league was against Blackburn on 31st December. Carrick and Park were in the midfiled. Anderson was on the bench.

Carrick and Giggs were in the midfield in the following two matches which we won an FA cup fixture over Man City at Ethihand and lost to Newcastle.

Then finally Scholes returned to pair Carrick and we won thee nil over Bolton, we won 2_1 at Emirate. And we kept winning.

Juventus are expecting a bid for Vidal from United of €42m (£34m). And according to the paper, personal terms on a 5 year deal have already been agreed with his agent who was in Manchester yesterday.

http://soccerlens.com/arturo-vidal-to-manchester-united-a-done-deal-italian-media/150474/