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Myer:
Your question stems from my post asserting that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, not because of homosexuality but they were beyond redemption.

Myer, homosexuality was the chief sin of Sodom and Gomorrah. Let no one deceive you.

Check the following thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/6129533/may-sex#94076315

Myer:
I simply answered you letting you know I was referring to the God in the bible.

Whether i serve God or Jesus is not the question, you simply share your reference that the God in the destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah due to homosexuality.

The reason for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is stated clearly in the Scripture ... homosexuality was/is the reason.

Myer, do you see homosexuality as a sin?

Same sex sexual practices - whether between two males or two females - are disgusting and abominable.

LordReed:
LoLz. You aren't serious.

You are the one who is not serious.

budaatum:
Yes. Consider starting a new thread for it please.

I think this thread perfect for such. The owner of this thread supported your assertion.

budaatum:
Paul would say, "When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child", and I would add, and believed liked a child. Then he became an adult and put childish things behind him.

Obi cannot be a boy for ever, Budaatum. Obi will eventually grow out of boyhood and into manhood.

Budaatum, do you believe in Yahushua the Messiah, the Word and Salvation of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth?

budaatum:
Yes, Elated, budaatum is learning. Christ taught me to ask and knock and seek with everything that is me which is what learning is, as opposed to believing what you 'know' and think is all there is to know. All we think we know it is only a part and not all, but when you ask and knock and seek with all your heart and soul and being, you learn, and completeness comes, and what is in part disappears.

Believing might be the first step Elated, but those who will be elated do not stay in kindergarten forever.

Isaiah 8: 20 Consult God’s instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.

Jeremiah 6: 16 This is what YHVH says:
“Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls.
But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’

It depends on what you are seeking, where you are knocking and for what you are asking, Budaatum. What have you been instructed with all your heart and soul and being, Budaatum?

Yeah! Blessed are the "elated ones" for they see, hear, know, perceive and understand. Only the Spirit of the Mighty One of Jacob, my Mighty One, can do so for us.

Myer:
Bible.

Is Bible God?

Which God do you serve?

LordReed:
By first telling me exactly in what direct you intend to influence the weather then we see if it happens as you say.

Ask your handlers. They already know.

budaatum:
Good day my dear Elated. You never did tell me the Scripture you read.

Genesis
Exodus
Leviticus
Numbers
Deuteronomy
Joshua
Judges
Ruth
1 Samuel
2 Samuel
1 Kings
2 Kings
1 Chronicles
2 Chronicles
Ezra
Nehemiah
Esther
Job
Psalms
Proverbs
Ecclesiastes
Song of Solomon (or Song of Songs)
Isaiah
Jeremiah
Lamentations
Ezekiel
Daniel
Hosea
Joel
Amos
Obadiah
Jonah
Micah
Nahum
Habakkuk
Zephaniah
Haggai
Zechariah
Malachi
Tobit
Judith
Additions to the Book of Esther
Wisdom of Solomon
Ecclesiasticus
Baruch
The Letter of Jeremiah
The Prayer of Azariah and the Song of the Three Jews
Susanna
Bel and the Dragon
1 Maccabees
2 Maccabees
1 Esdras
Prayer of Manasseh
Psalm 151
3 Maccabees
2 Esdras
4 Maccabees

Matthew
Mark
Luke
John
Acts of the Apostles
Romans
1 Corinthians
2 Corinthians
Galatians
Ephesians
Philippians
Colossians
1 Thessalonians
2 Thessalonians
1 Timothy
2 Timothy
Titus
Philemon
Hebrews
James
1 Peter
2 Peter
1 John
2 John
3 John
Jude
Revelation

budaatum:
Are you hiding it from me like God is written to have hidden knowledge from Adam and Eve? You do know the result of such hiding is ignorance, right?

There you have them.

budaatum:
Please read the post of xproducer directly above mine. The Lord might be sending you signals.

What is the relevance of those Scriptures to the message?

budaatum:
In Jesus Christ the Messiah's Mighty Name, Amen.

"In the Mighty name of Yahushua the Messiah. El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH." Would have been the best.

LordReed:
That you have influence over the weather.

How do suggest I do it?

budaatum:
You notice the effort I put in to ensure what I teach is glaring! Thank you for the compliment, elated. Most don't see what you refer to as "serpentine ways", so it will be a pleasure to have you point them out to the Genuine Seekers of the Truth.
Isn't a pastopreneur a person who receives payment from pastoring? Elated, do you seriously believe anyone will pay buda for what what you refer to as "serpentine ways.

Ehehehehe! Even a zonked person's speech and movement are glaring for all to see.
Should we look at what started all these?

Some have been and are being paid for worse.
Some have sold and are selling worse.

budaatum:
I bother with Scripture, that being the Bible and the Quran as far as Nigeria is concerned, for the following reasons:

budaatum:
1. To read what those around me read. If I don't, I will be ignorant of what they speak of.
2. To learn for myself. If I don't read the books myself ignorant people will be telling what is written in it.3. For my development. It is after a book that helps one grow and evolve and become if understood.

budaatum:
And I definitely do not believe! James, you see, a more complex writer than many who preceded him wrote that the devil's believing makes them tremble, so why should I choose to emulate demons?

Believe is the first step, Budaatum. I know you are learning.

John 9: 35 Yahushua heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?”
36 “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.” 37 Yahushua said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.” 38 Then the man said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him.

budaatum:
Pervert, you say. buda is guilty as charged. When a person reads, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die", and then claims they died when they clearly didn't, their beliefs must of necessity be perverted from what they are for they are obviously not using their eyes not to talk of their God given minds, so please expose buda's so called wickedness. The Lord God will give you immense strength.

You do not believe that you are perverting the Scriptures? Can we go to the genesis of this current discourse? Let us look at what precipitated all these.

Myer:
Can you mention one instance where God is against homosexuality?

God chose to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah not because of their homosexuality but because they were too sinful. Though homosexuality often times is credited to be the reason but there are other cases in the bible where homosexuality was perpetuated but God did not destroy them.

Homosexuality is just as bad as fornication, adultery and lying.

While I'm not a proponent of homosexuality cos I find it disgusting between men but sexy between women, I believe it is just the same sin as fornication and adultery.

Reason being there are cases mentioned in the bible of homosexuality where God did not destroy the city. Hence my position that Sodom and Gomorrah was not because of their homosexuality but because they were beyond redemption. Their sinful ways were too much aka dey don too tear eye and God realised no one was safe there.
Even the Angels he sent were going to be raped until Lot intervened.

That said, exalting homosexuality above any other sin is just unbiblical. Cos God's judgment for a liar is the same for a homosexual,fornication or adulterer.
Before God every sin is the same. It is humans that try to make hierarchy of sins.

Which "God" do mean?

Let us start with that.

LordReed:
I am saying you need to prove it.

Prove what?

budaatum:
buda always minds. Lets see if, Amen.

May the Lord thy God Almighty continue to strengthen you to expose the mote in the eyes of buda if that is what the Lord thy God requires of thee. In the mighty Name of Jesus Christ the Messiah doth buda pray.

May YHVH Almighty continue to use me, Elated177, to expose the wickedness and perversion of budaatum on this forum. May my Father in heaven continue to fill me, his saint, servant and messenger, Elated177, with the strength to expose the wickedness and perversion of budaatum and his ilks on this forum. May budaatum be exposed every single time he tries to use the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, to spread his occultism. May Budaatum always be rebuked for every Scripture he twists and manipulates. He is a very, very wicked individual and he has refused to refrain from his blatant attempts at perverting the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

budaatum:
This is very True. Its like I take off my clothing and walk about naked so that that which is unseen is seem. The pity is, not many have the patience to look so they may see.

You, however, delight me. You say you use your eyes to look so you may see, so please do not hesitate to inform those who see not so they too may look at what you see and consider.

Don't worry, budaatum, our paths didn't start crossing today. I know you haven't forgotten. Your occultic teachings are glaring for all to see. The genuine seekers of the Truth will always point out your serpentine ways.

Thing is, why do you bother with the Scriptures? You don't believe them, you don't regard them, you don't know the Owner, you have no regard for the Owner and I am sure you are not a pastopreneur. So, really, budaatum, why do you bother? You just want to pervert them, right? Aren't there enough occultic books that you could you use for your mission?

We are here to expose your wickedness, budaatum.

LordReed:
Let's not even start with your perceived influence over the

Perceived influence? You are saying it is not possible?

LordReed:
LoL. You are the one who isn't serious. It is almost as if you don't know the meaning of objective and subjective. Let's not even start with your perceived influence over the weather that you can't be specific about.

Mtcheeeeew! When you are serious, let me know.


All of a sudden he doesn't know what it means to influence something.

budaatum:
I do have to admit that I do not quite know the Scriptures you are talking about that mentions a "Yahushua the Messiah is the God of the Scriptures".

Show me the Scripture you read please.

Never mind. Just know that we are here to expose your wickedness, budaatum.

LordReed:
Of course the weather can't be hidden which is why I gave you an objective assessment. You keep saying you can influence the weather without being specific, what exactly are you expect from the weather? The objective assessment makes everything clear, my subjective assessment gives the icing on the cake. What other answer are you expecting? Or is that you don't know what the weather chart symbols indicate?

Don't you know what it means to influence something? I have my reasons for not using that chart.

No need to continue with this. You are not serious.

budaatum:
It means I have no Gods at all.

Mtcheeeeew!

budaatum:
You seem to be claiming "God of the Scriptures" and Jesus Christ, are the same entity.

I don't know about Jesus, but I know that Yahushua the Messiah is the God of the Scriptures. He and his Father, my Father, YHVH Almighty, are one. He is the Word of the Father.

budaatum:
And please stop with the lying. I do know the Scriptures refer to a God and to Jesus.

The Scriptures refer to the God of gods, the one and only true God, the Creator of all things, YHVH Almighty, and his Word, his begotten Son, Yahushua the Messiah.

budaatum:
What I can see is people like you claiming those with different understandings to what you have must be satanic. They said the same about Jesus Christ so I must be in good company.

What very wicked people say when they are caught in their perversion.


Budaatum, each time you pen down your views, you expose yourself the more.

LordReed:
LMFAO! I gave you an objective assessment of the weather you said no you want my subjective assessment I give you that, now you cry foul. I don't think you understand what you want. The weather is fine, I have no issues with it. When you are ready to tell me you have asked sky daddy to make the weather uncomfortable lemme know so I can report back. Bwahahahahaha!

Is that what was going through your mind? No wonder! It is now obvious why you were evasive. You actually thought that I was asking to know if the weather was comfortable or uncomfortable to you? Chai!

"Fine" is not enough description. Is it cold, warm, hot, cloudy, sunny, raining, etc. These are attributes you can see, feel, observe and estimate the the slightest change. Na wa o!

How was the weather yesterday morning? How was it last night? How was it in the morning? How is it now?

I told you already that my Father in heaven, Daddy in the sky, has given me, Elated177, his humble servant, the power to influence the weather and you wanted proof. It is not something that can be hidden, Reed.

El Elohe Yahshrael!

LordReed:
Fine and great both yesterday and today. Thanks for asking. LoL!

Fine and great are vague ways of describing the weather, but then, you know exactly what you are doing.
Mmmhmm! Ndi aruru ala! Ndị ajọ mmadụ! They are already tired. Remember what I said to you the other day, Reed?

elated177:
You still haven't understood. Chai! Ndo o!

By the Power of YHVH Almighty, my Daddy in the sky, whom you, Reed, show no regard for, I, Elated177, his humble saint, servant and messenger, will continue to determine how the sun shines on you.

elated177:
Reed, whether you like it or not, I, Elated177, a saint, servant and messenger of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth and the seas and everything in them, will continue to use the great and awesome Power of my Daddy in the sky to determine - among other things - how the rain falls on you.


Una go cry, wail, bleat, quack and lament tire. Una no go fit still change am.

LordReed:
And I already answered, scroll back to see my answer.

It was a simple task, Reed. I wanted you to tell me, in your own words, what the weather was like. You refused to do it. Anyway, how was the weather yesterday morning? How was it last night? How is it now?

LordReed:
I gave you the weather forecast for my city but you rejected it. LoL

All you had to do was tell me how the weather was. To you, Reed, how you were feeling it.

M

budaatum:
I do not have a God, elated177. There is a God of the Bible who is written to have said "Let there be Light" that I study about a lot these days, but that God was not the first nor the only one I study.

Does it mean you have gods?

Since you do not know the God of the Scriptures, which you call Bible, why did you assert that Yahushua the Messiah is not the one?

budaatum:
As for its requirements

The Creator of heaven and earth, the Owner of the Scriptures, is not an "it".

Budaatum, the name of the Owner the Scriptures, which you are always quoting, is YHVH. Now, replace the Lord with YHVH in here:

budaatum:
This is very not true. The stories we read about Jesus specifically teach “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

The bolded 'your' means your God, whichever it may be. You hinted on this understanding with "Not necessary Judaism", so it does not matter that some wait since many have not yet received a book, and some not even abc.

Can you see how satanic your assertions there are? I know it was a deliberate act. You are bent on perverting the Scriptures. Don't worry, we are here to expose you, budaatum.


Deut 6: 4 Hear, O Israel: YHVH our God, YHVH is one.5 Love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

Myer:
I see what you did there. It's good semantics to confuse the undiscerning and untaught.
But then enters moi.

You don't know what you are saying.

Myer:
Cos you know you commit sin daily. But living in sin is supposed to be different from committing sin right?
You try. Good excuse as long as you ask for forgiveness, clean slate every morning.

Again, you don't know what you are saying.

Myer:
Riddle me this;
If you and fellow righteousness preachers on NL were truly practicing righteousness for even a month, why has there been no beneficiary of your generosity both financially, materially or in kind?

The saints, servants and messengers of Yahushua the Messiah do not give to those in need and announce it.

Myer:
Why is true righteousness hard to find even among Christian's in Nigeria?
Why is it with all the Christian's in Nigeria, it's still among world's most corrupt government and citizenry?

Ask the Christians. I am not a Christian. Next time go through my posts before you start the tagging.

Myer:
Why are Enterpreneurs rejecting those "born-again" applicants like Righteousness and Jesusjnr who profess righteousness publicly but their hearts and souls are so wicked cos they often commit the worst frauds eventually.

You gossip too much.

Have you ever had business transaction with me.

Myer:
Bro, just have peace worshipping your God and stop professing false righteousness and speaking fake Christianese here.

Ndo o! You have no idea what you are saying. Have we had any business together?

LordReed:
Wait so you'd rather hear my subjective assessment rather than a verifiable source? LMAO!

How do you mean?

PastorAIO:
It's all okay. It is very important that my people are aware of what they are playing with. I'm grateful for the opportunity this thread provides to make an exposition of these things.

Are you an atheist?

LordReed:
Feel free to chip in, it's an open discussion.

I will, if there is need. For now, let me just be reading you people's comments and see which way the cat jumps.

Only asked hardmirror a question based on a particular assertion that he made.

LordReed:
Here's the forecast for this week. Tell your sky daddy to make it rain the whole week instead.

Don't go there. I am not falling for that.

How is the weather in city? Is all I asked.

El Elohe Yahshrael!

Should we, the saints, servants and messengers, of Yahushua the Messiah start living in sin to enable the evil and wicked people and their demons live happily and comfortably? YHVH Almighty forbid!

If our Righteousness is a threat to them, let them be forever threatened.

This light will continue to shine brighter and brighter. There is no compromise on this Righteous Walk.

To the saints, servants and messengers of Yahushua the Messiah, remain bold, stealth and courageous.

May our Father in heaven, Daddy in the sky, he who rides on the wings of the wind, continue to guide and guard us on his Righteous Path.


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!