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AntiChristian:
I opened the thread to show Christians that some scientific facts are not correct in the Bible.

What scientific fact?

AntiChristian:
I am not a murderer not have i killed before except ram, chicken, insects, etc.

Antichristian, what did you mean by the assertions below? Weren't you implying that you had poisoned many Christians and sent them snakes and scorpions? You were actually taunting them.

AntiChristian:
In the past 10 years of my life, I have personally interacted with thousands of Christians, including missionaries - I have not come across a single Christian, who has passed this confirmatory test of the Bible.

I have given you.....authority to trample on snakes and scorpiiiion! And to overcome...all the powers of the enemy....to overcome.
Nothing will harm you, nothing will harm you! Nothing wil harrrrrm you!

AntiChristian:
So why do you think I would poison Christians or send snakes to them?

This thread and your assertions here say implied so.

AntiChristian:
One can only fight those who fights you.

Antichristian, when you open threads like this and attempt to mock or ridicule the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, you are calling the attention of anyone who believes in and follows them. Didn't you know this?

The Christians are not the owners of the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty.

El Elohe Yahshrael!


Matthew 24: 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, NIV.


Matthew 24: 11 Many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 And because there will be more and more lawlessness, most people’s love will grow cold. NOG.

This is prophecy fulfilling right before our eyes.


I made it clear in one of my threads that the spiritual atmosphere of Nigeria is one of the most polluted, defiled and contaminated.

In Nigeria, the love of many has grown cold. Today, so many people do not even know what love means. The increase in the rejection of the very foundation of love - increase in lawlessness - has caused the love of many to grow cold.

The Scripture did not say few false prophets. The portion of the Scripture highlighted above did not say few people. There are so many false prophets and demonic/satanic preachers out there. They have introduced a lot of demonic/satanic things. They are the enemies of the Commandments of the Father in heaven. They have deceived and are deceiving many.


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

The reader may want to see this:

https://www.nairaland.com/6629374/love-many-grow-cold#103253049

Workch:
OK

Good. You aren't searching for the Truth.

AntiChristian:
Since you are not a Christian then Keep mute. He no concern you niyen!

Which kind mind you get saying those trashes in your last two sentences? How can a sane mind even fathom this thought?

I will not stoop to your level, antichristian. Truly, I am not a Christian. However, you will always attract my attention whenever you quote the Scriptures of my Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty. Didn't you open this thread to mock the Scriptures and the Set-apart Spirit of YHVH Almighty? YHVH Almighty cannot be mocked.

Now answer the questions, antichristian. Here they are again.


Now, antichristian, what point are you trying to make with this thread? Does it mean that you have been poisoning those who claim to be Christians to see if they will pass the test? Have you, antichristian, been sending Christians snakes and scorpions in order to ascertain the genuineness of their Christianity?

Workch:
There's no evidence that God exist.
If he does then I need one I can test, test it and make sure it's your own personal God

You are not getting any.

Workch:
Evidence is evidence. It should be testable.
Theres no kind of evidence

You are not getting any. You are like Reed.

AntiChristian:
I don't think Muslims believe in the Bible. But why are you guys like this? Always trying to divert when you have nothing to say!

If you don't believe in the Scriptures, antichristian, why are you obsessed with them? Why don't you focus on your own religious books? Or is there some kind of competition?

AntiChristian:
From Numbers 5: 11- 31
I’ll just say in brief, it says that… ‘The priest should take holy water in a vessel, take dust from the floor, and put it into the vessel - And that is the bitter water ‘And after cursing it, give it to the woman And if the woman has committed adultery, after she drinks it, the curse will enter her body, the stomach will swell, the thigh will rot, and she shall be cursed by the people. If the woman has not committed adultery, she will remain clean and she will bear the seed.

Why can't Christian countries try this method on those cases?

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You did not make your points. What are your problems with the portion of the Scripture?

AntiChristian:
Light vs Sun & Moon

Light was created on the first day (Gen 1:3) but ‘the cause of light - stars and the sun, etc. were created on the fourth day’ (Gen 1:14-19)

How can light exist on the first day but the cause of light came in to existence on the 4th day?

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Keep in mind that:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
2Tim. 3: 16

Modified
Sorry i forgot to add that vegetations also came in to existence on the third day before the creation of the Sun!
hence na anaerobic mode all plant, herbs, shrubs, trees, etc dey then

Abeg no diversion especially from Christians!

Antichristian, what kind of influence can you exert on the Sun? Do you know how the Sun functions and how it goes about its business?

AntiChristian:
The Bible has a scientific test how to identify a true believer. It is mentioned in the Gospel of Mark 16:17-18 - It says that… ‘There will be signs for true believers and among the signs - In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new tongues, they shall take up serpents - And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed - And when they place their hand over the sick, they shall be cured.’ This is a scientific test - In scientific terminology, it is known as the ‘confirmatory test’ for a true Christian believer. In the past 10 years of my life, I have personally interacted with thousands of Christians, including missionaries - I have not come across a single Christian, who has passed this confirmatory test of the Bible.

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I have given you.....authority to trample on snakes and scorpiiiion! And to overcome...all the powers of the enemy....to overcome.
Nothing will harm you, nothing will harm you! Nothing wil harrrrrm you!

Antichristian, I am not a Christian and I am not directly invited. However, by quoting the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, my attention is indirectly sought.

Now, antichristian, what point are you trying to make with this thread? Does it mean that you have been poisoning those who claim to be Christians to see if they will pass the test? Have you, antichristian, been sending Christians snakes and scorpions in order to ascertain the genuineness of their Christianity?

An awesome Sabbath.

Workch:
Well, you have any evidence?

What kind of evidence?

LordReed:
If those who claim to be god believers or hear from god were infallible I would say you have something but as it turns out they are no more infallible than non-believers or non-hearers.[/ quote]

Infallibility is reserved for the Creator of heaven and earth alone. Only he is infallible.


[quote author=LordReed post=109891359]The fear of god is the beginning of being hoodwinked.

Reed, the fear of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, is the beginning of wisdom.

People worship a lot of things. Such things are their gods.

LordReed:
Not surprised, you'd rather wallow in ignorance than accept facts.

You are just wasting your time.

Workch:
We can test the statistical significance of miracles on sick samples in hospitals.
It has been done anyways and turns out that miracles are not real

Miracles are as real as the oxygen we inhale.

El Elohe Yahshrael!


It is another Sabbath.

El Elohe Yahshrael!

Walk in Righteousness and you will vibrate at the highest frequency.

1 John 2: 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.

29 If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him.





El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

LordReed:
You be reasonable, you are the one calling the hymen a god given seal so tell me is your god wicked to make some ladies with hymens that require surgical removal? Or is he incompetent that some ladies have no hymen at all?

You ain't getting from me any response on this issue.

LordReed:
I don't but you do so the onus is on you to explain how what you believe in fits into your narrative.

You said my view of sex as a natural appetite was because of media, I didn't say anything about sexual promiscuity. Did Judah not delibrately sleep with a woman who was clearly not his wife?

It was your choice of words here that elicited my response.

LordReed:
Instead what we have is a continuous desire for sex

Of course, the urge for sex between a male and a female is a natural one - appetite, if you like. It is for procreation.

LordReed:
It is ignorance to claim that there were no methods of family planning in ancient times. Google it and find out yourself if the ancients had no methods.

Prove it, Reed.

LordReed:
LoL @ meaningless sex. Not unexpected from a person forming celibacy or are you a eunuch? Have you ever had sex before to know if it was meaningless or not?

Yap. Sexual activity without the intention of procreating is meaningless --- a sheer waste of useful energy.

Reed, I am not a eunuch. Sex is for procreation, Reed. I know sexual purity is like a taboo to you, Reed.

suicidesheep:
You in fact do owe him an explanation. I bet you've never evangelised before or if you have you haven't done it to someone who isn't gullible or stupid.

Nope! I don't owe anyone who displays derogatory and aggressive attitudes towards the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, any explanation. If any confused individual wants to learn and understand, he/she must ask, seek and knock politely. He or she must show some respect. In some cases, he/she will have to beg, plead and implore. Show that you really deserve the time. Like I said, the days of throwing pearls to pigs are gone.

Workch:
Well, I'm an empiricist and skeptic hence the reason I'm an Agnostic atheist.
I also question alot of stuffs outside of religion. There's never going to be a time I will accept whatever anyone says without an evidence for me to test

How do you suppose the supernatural be tested?

davien:
Looooooool, I believe you're projecting yourself on me buddy. I'm not the one that believes I'm "gods" son like many religious believers.

How am I projecting myself on you? Your last sentence does not make sense.

davien:
The years of you pleading and imploring as a whole is no different than what those born before you did for their beliefs, You all think you're rightfor believing your holy books.

You got it all wrong, dude. You displayed entitlement mentality in your write. You sounded like anyone owed you some kind of explanation. If you, davien, want to learn, you must beg, plead and implore those who know. The days of throwing pearls to pigs are gone.

Workch:
what do you want to know?

As much as you are willing to share.

LordReed:
Then tell me about the "missing seal", is your god incompetent? Do you know that 1 in 1000 girls need to have their hymen surgically opened because it creates a problem for them when their period starts? Is your god wicked or incompetent or both?

Be reasonable, Reed.

LordReed:
LMAO! So before the invention of media people did not feel like having sex? Was it media that made Judah sleep with his daughter in law or is it media that made Lot sleep with his daughters? Bwahahahahaha! Guy we are talking of natural inclinations you are talking of media.

It is hilarious that you chose to imply sexual promiscuity thousands of years ago. I thought you didn't believe the Scriptures?

The glamorization of sex by the media is for sexual promiscuity today. Don't you know what sexual promiscuity means?
Did Lot deliberately sleep with his daughters?

LordReed:
Kai guy why exposing your ignorance like this na. There are several methods to prevent pregnancy that don't involve condom or even modern inventions, ever heard of the withdrawal method? What about female ovulation cycle monitoring? You have the whole Internet at your disposal don't remain so ignorant.

Hey, just simmer down. Do not be too quick to label anything "ignorance". I knew you would mention them. Are you saying that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, and the prophets of the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty all practised the withdrawal method?

Are there documents to show that such knowledge was available to women thousands or hundreds of years ago?

There are many things to do with energy, Reed. Wasting them on meaningless sex is not one of them.

Workch:
"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.”

- Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism; quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2

If one assumes that the man knew what he was then he may well have been an atheist, at least he was when he made the above statement.
In other communication he calls religions, even his birthright of Judaism childish…

“…the word 'god' is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."

He went on, "…the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions."

So draw whatever conclusions you like…

Ehe?

suicidesheep:
Killer robots in d bible.. I think you've watched too many movies.. asteroids falling from d sky is not a prophecy.. it's what has been happening from dawn of time and its still happening today. D reason why NASA and space x are exploring outside world is cause a naturally is an explorer and exploiter.. when d earth's resource is finished, we hope to use the resources of other planets..
And you're doing something which is so typical of many Christian's, trying to use science to prove the rubbish bible.. when intact science always disproves the bible

Give me a little info bordering on your background.

Workch, tell me a little about yourself.

davien:
It's been a while, to be clear the god I'm talking about is the general idea of a person, animal or object that exists as the first thing to exist and may or may not be responsible for everything else.

Let's start with the elephant in the room, we share this universe, you and I, we can objectively give ourselves as much evidence for our own existence. So why would we assume there's someone or something that's exactly like us(outside of the universe as a whole)?

If it's the first thing that ever was why would it have the physical characteristics(depending on belief) of the things in our reality? What does god need a right and left hand for? Clothes? Where'd it get them from?

For a person like me I'd reason these ideas borrow from the time they came to be that those gods would have the themes of the society they lived in, Greek gods occupy Greek mountains, Jewish gods occupy Jewish lands, Scientology spirits ride in airplanes(yes, google that).

And it's dumb to think of the creation stories as anything but myths of those cultures. So a perfect god(again, depending on the god) wouldn't get humans right the first time? And if it can't would a second time be any different?

If the god is an animal then why allow human beings exploit the animal for food, luxury and work? Why would a cow/goat, bull god make a human or even want to?

If there's such a place the god stays in but wants us to be with it what's the point of here then? Not saying there can't be reasons but when you start seeing brain dead babies and life born into this world that experiences pain and suffering 24/7 you have to ask why your god would be okay for a new being to be scorned for nothing at all.

Moving on to the naturally next point from the previous, if we humans did something to offend that being then doesn't that mean the being can't predict human behavior? Or wants humans to be exactly the way we are?

Lastly, if there's a way to reclaim peace with that/those being(s) then what function does our experiences serve if we're created with only one purpose in mind? I'm basically saying if you want object "b" to only do x in y then why add a feature that prevents or prolongs this process? Trial? For who? The object does not have to run any trial if it's use is for the creator.

These are my gripes with god/gods as an idea, it would be interesting to see if other people(believer or not) shares the same or have anything to add or clear over these. Thanks.

You think too highly of yourself and your position on the scale of reality. Actually, no one owes you any explanation. If you want to learn, you must beg, plead and implore.

Such an individual does not repent and usually dies in his/her wickedness. Most times, the thunder and the lightning of the Creator of heaven and earth strike them to their death and destruction. Any follower of the Truth of the Scriptures who disagrees with the above assertions should do so with the Scriptures.

It is a simple matter:

Jeremiah 13: 23 Can an Ethiopian change his skin or a leopard its spots? Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

LordReed:
Wrong. Sex satisfies a natural appetite. If it was for only procreation you would only have a sexual urge when you want to procreate. Instead what we have is a continuous desire for sex that generally abates with age and only because functional rigour abates not because the desire has disappeared.

It is the glamorization of sex by the media that has given people such mindset. The minds of people have been conditioned - and are being conditioned - to see sex the way that you described, Reed? It is the same mindset, which is orchestrated by the media, that is responsible for sexual promiscuity. The same mindset is the reason for the outrage whenever the issues of virginity and sexual purity are raised. There are so many things to do with the energy, Reed.

When one deeply considers it, one will realize that sex without procreation is even meaningless --- a waste of energy.


Reed, before the invention of condom, how did our ancestors live? Any ideas?

LordReed:
Where in the thread did you deal with missing hymen or hymen that isn't present by other means than sex.

Not about the missing "seal" or whatever. You raised other issues in your last paragraph. I think such were dealt with on that thread.