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LordReed:
There are advantages to being a virgin but it is absurd to claim that a god decided to place a seal on the woman's pùssy but left the man's dick alone.

Go through the thread, Reed.

Yahushua the Messiah forbid.

ifyken:
This virginity stuff is overrated like I wouldn't sleep with you if you were a virgin. Am I a vampire that I want to see blood? Most virgins are inexperienced in sexual activities which means you will not even enjoy well.

Who overrated it?

"Inexperienced in sexual activities"? No wonder so many girls - even teenage girls - are acting like prostitutes these days. This must be the tactic you people are applying in order to steal the virginity of girls. Chai! Why would any man want a sexually "experienced" woman for a wife? Leave the sexually "experienced" for the prostitutes. Sex is not food. Sex is for procreation.

LordReed:
Yes because the only way a hymen can be missing is through sex. LoL. You should look up the various ways a hymen can be missing that is not caused by sex, in fact some ladies are not even born with a hymen so your god is incompetent? LMFAO

BTW are you implying your god gave the males free range not to be virgins before marriage? Who exactly are men going to sleep with, other men? Your god wanted men to be homosexual until marriage? Bwahahahahaha!

Did you go through the thread?



https://www.nairaland.com/6929795/sexual-purity#109186760

LordReed:
LoLz! Like the OP who while castigating others refuses to say if he is a virgin or not. Bwahahahahaha!

Is there a way of ascertaining the virginity of a male. And who is being castigated? Unlike the male, the female has a "seal" on her vagina placed there by her Maker. Such "seal" is supposed to be broken by her husband.


You may want to see this thread:


https://www.nairaland.com/6929795/sexual-purity#109186760

budaatum:
Glad to know. Hopefully you'd someday evolve from mere believing, to understanding and then perhaps doing. Then might you learn to love your fellow human beings regardless of their religion instead of making false claims about them.

Mtcheeeeew!

budaatum:
buda does not believe, period.

You need to learn to tell yourself the truth, which is that you yourself do not believe in the "Creator of heaven and earth". What you believe is the book you read about a "Creator of heaven and earth".


You are the believer so you tell me what it means to you to believe in the Creator.

For me though, it would mean one does not quite know about the Creator so they merely believe instead off asking and knocking and seeking so they may know.

You can tell such people by their fruits. They'd believe they are righteous even while not loving their fellow human being and neighbours just because their neighbour does not believe what they chose to believe.

I believe in YAH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. I believe in the Word of YHVH El Shaddai.

sonmvayina:
What is the nature of God?

You are just a kid fascinated about a concept that is way over you.

All you do is to quote scriptures without the slightest idea of the information contained therin.

You have a lot to learn, so that you go from believing to knowing...

Safe journey..

Mtcheeeeew! Ihe efu!

El Elohe Yahshrael!

It is obvious that this kind of message angers a lot of people. And I wonder why!

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Kobojunkie:
Excellent question!

Why aren't there many virgins? I wonder.

True.

Very true.

I wonder.

sonmvayina:
Who or what is God? Please explain your terms. Before I tackle it..

Mtcheeeeew!

budaatum:
righteous [ˈrʌɪtʃəs] ADJECTIVE
1. morally right or justifiable. - "feelings of righteous indignation about pay and conditions"
synonyms: good · virtuous · upright · upstanding · decent · worthy · ethical ·
2. (of a person) morally good; virtuous. - "he stood up for what he knew was right and died a righteous person" · [More]
US
informal
very good; excellent.

buda is not righteous.

Well, Budaatum, with your serpentine ways and teachings, it comes as no surprise at all.

budaatum:
buda does not believe what buda knows.

Odd enough, it was because buda felt, saw, tasted and tested the glory, goodness, greatness, kindness that buda knows. Once buda knows a thing buda knows it. Think Paul. He did not believe until he was shown and then knew after many years of seeking.

I have heard many here say that they are not "believers" but "knowers". They probably think that such makes them come across as knowledgeable. Mtcheeeeew!

Budaatum, do you believe in the Creator of heaven and earth?

What does it mean to believe in the Creator?

budaatum:
And if we were teaching children who know nothing of what we speak we might start them off with this kindergarten teaching. It is not the teaching for those who have learnt the lesson of the above and have now seen him and heard him speak and have and grown because of their knowing and understanding.

elated177:
Budaatum, have you ever felt the goodness and greatness of YHVH Almighty - Yahushua the Messiah? Have you ever seen his mighty hand, goodness and awesomeness? Have you ever tasted his kindness, goodness and awesomeness? Have you ever carried out any test in order to ascertain the spirit? In which school do they teach these things, Budaatum?

In which school do they teach all those things to children?

budaatum:
Concentrate on how they are placed in your own mind. It is possible to know and not believe, but I will call them special cases. One can know one will fail if one does not study and still believe they will pass.

Again:

John 9: 35 Yahushua heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?”
36 “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.”37 Jesus said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.” 38 Then the man said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him.

You have not explained what transpired in the portion of the Scripture above.

Consider:

John 7: 3 Yahushua's brothers said to him, “Leave Galilee and go to Judea, so that your disciples there may see the works you do. 4 No one who wants to become a public figure acts in secret. Since you are doing these things, show yourself to the world.” 5 For even his own brothers did not believe in him.

budaatum:
Now, you consider if it is possible to believe and not know. Would you say it is not more common, especially amongst believers? In fact, would you not claim I believe what I am saying but do not know what I am talking about? Many believe they should love their neighbours for instance, but they call their neighbours demons, and perverts, and so on, so I am not surprised to find that demons believe and tremble.

Romans 1: 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

John 9: 36 “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.”

John 9: 37 Yahushua said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.”

John 9: 38 Then the man said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him.

What does it mean to "believe in" the Creator?
Is it possible to know him and not believe in him? What does "believe in" mean, Budaatum?

Who is your neighbor, Budaatum?

budaatum:
It is a lesson in Scripture that you must test all spirits like Eve tested if it was true that she would die, or you would remain ignorant and enslaved in the Garden of Eden, and it was taught in the schools I went to and in the home I lived in

If buda had not "felt, and seen, and tasted", through testing,buda would not be

Budaatum, the lying offspring of the serpent. You, Budaatum, are indeed a true offspring of your father, the devil. He was a liar from the beginning. There is no truth in him.

Little wonder why you said the following:

budaatum:
You would note that belief is what children are taught, along with "feel, see, taste, test", if you went to a good school that invests in the development of the senses. Otherwise, belief is all you'd know, instead of learning to use your God given senses to ask and knock and seek.

Which "God-given" senses, Budaatum? You and your serpentine ways have already been exposed, Budaatum. This is the part where the unwary and the unstable ignore the warnings, forget what they have seen, felt, tasted and tested and have come to believe in and open up their minds, their souls and their hearts to things taught by demons. Ihe efu!


Isaiah 8: 20 Consult God’s instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.

Jeremiah 6: 16 This is what YHVH says:

“Stand at the crossroads and look;
ask for the ancient paths,
ask where the good way is, and walk in it,
and you will find rest for your souls.
But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’

Revelation 2: 20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.

Revelation 2 : 24 Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you,

Ephesians 6: 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

You want to see this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/6366402/jezebel-prophetess-jezebel-prophet

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

budaatum:
That must be how it works for you. What I find is people believe because that is all they know, and they will only ask and knock and seek because they stop believing the little they knew and desired to learn more, after which they will eventually put aside their childish believing ways because they now know and understand.

As long as the Righteous Walk is concerned, you know ( see, feel, taste, test), then you believe in. You must have felt, seen, tasted and tested the glory, goodness, greatness, kindness and awesomeness of YHVH Almighty - have known - and then believe in.

Again, I present the Scripture:


John 9: 35 Yahushua heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” 36 “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.” 37 Yahushua said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.”

You probably think I am placing them wrongly. I am not. Is it possible to know and not believe in?

budaatum:
You would only believe there is a million naira in your bank account because you are not sure how much is in your bank account. Once you've "felt, seen, tasted and tested" your bank account, you'd stop believing because you know how much is in your bank account.

It does not work in this context, Budaatum. Wrong analogy.

budaatum:
You would note that belief is what children are taught, along with "feel, see, taste, test", if you went to a good school that invests in the development of the senses. Otherwise, belief is all you'd know, instead of learning to use your God given senses to ask and knock and seek.

See here the people who are not taught to ask knock seek, and why.

Budaatum, have you ever felt the goodness and greatness of YHVH Almighty - Yahushua the Messiah? Have you ever seen his mighty hand, goodness and awesomeness? Have you ever tasted his kindness, goodness and awesomeness? Have you ever carried out any test in order to ascertain the spirit? In which school do they teach these things, Budaatum?

sonmvayina:
And you believe a woman can become pregnant without a man's sperm.

Continue, when the time comes you will move from believing to knowing the truth. But first the truth will piss you off before it sets you free...

Shalom.

And you believe flesh was made from dust? How come? Like I said earlier, you do not own anyone's soul.

Tackle this:

elated177:
YHVH Almighty made the natural law of procreation --- man's spermatozoa fuses with a woman's ovum to form a new being. Now, is it difficult for him to deposit his "SEED" into the woman's body without coitus? Answer this question, sonmvayina.

sonmvayina:
Isaiah never said a virgin..the word used is Almah, it means a young woman. The woman in question is isaiahs wife and the pregnancy was made possible by Isaiah.
The jews don't have the idea of God mating with humans. It is a Roman/Greek mythology..

God is the law. And the law 8s a woman needs a male input before she can become pregnant. Stop all this ignorance and illiteracy...

Maintain your ignorance and illiteracy.

I really don't owe you anything, sonmvayina. You sound like you are the owner of anyone's soul. I will stick with my own views. Be free, sonmvayina, to stick with your ignorant and illiterate views.

sonmvayina:
Seems you have not been following this thread. I have elaborately explained those passages.
In Isaiah 9:6 the child has already been born when Isaiah was prophesying. It is present tense not future tense. In fact the son was 6 years old. He is referring to future king Hezekiah who was already born. The son has already been given or born . Stop taking text out of context. You will loose the gist in the story.

Elaborately explained what? Inukwa grammar!
I am sure that you confuse yourself most times. "To us a son is given" does not mean that he had been born at the time of the prophecy.
Look at the attributes of such individual, do they describe a mere mortal? O dikwa egwu!

sonmvayina:
In 7:14 the sign was for king Ahaz . It was to assure him that his kingdom will survive the threat posed by Syria and the northern kingdom.. read verse 16. Why do people just pull out text from a story and expect to make sense...for good measure the woman is isaiahs wife and it was Isaiah that impregnated her.

So "a virgin will be with a child" means nothing to you, sonmvayina?

sonmvayina:
You are wiser than this, except I am wrong.

Emotional blackmail will not work.

Tackle this:
YHVH Almighty made the natural law of procreation --- man's spermatozoa fuses with a woman's ovum to form a new being. Now, is it difficult for him to deposit his "SEED" into the woman's body without coitus? Answer this question, sonmvayina.

sonmvayina:
When did he decide or walked that he will send his son as sacrifice for the sins of man.

Where did he will that he will impregnate another man's wife to sire a son ?

In the old testament?

Isaiah 9: 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of YHVH Almighty
will accomplish this.

Was this about Solomon, Rehoboam, Josiah, Jehosaphat, Hezekiah, Manasseh, etc?

Isaiah 7: 14 Therefore YHVH himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

Who was the above Scripture referring to?

The Maker of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them is not a man. He is God Almighty. He uses his creatures for his purposes and no one can accuse him of doing wrong.

YHVH Almighty made the natural law of procreation --- man's spermatozoa fuses with a woman's ovum to form a new being. Now, is it difficult for him to deposit his "SEED" into the woman's body without coitus? Answer this question, sonmvayina.

sonmvayina:
Why do you believe he sent "his son" to come and change it ?

Where did the Son of YHVH Almighty change the Father's will?

PastorAIO:
He who has ears to hear let him hear:

In the Levantine there is a category of creature known as djinn. They are formed from ‘smokeless fire’. Iblis , according to Islam, was such a djinn. He disobeyed allah and was cast out of heaven and became the king of the Satans.

Now if you go to the root of this whole calamity that has befallen us in this world what do we find.

We find it started with a discovery by Moses. Moses was in the wilderness when he saw a bush burning but was not getting consumed. In other words the bush was being turned to smoke by the fire. The phenomenon he saw was SMOKELESS FIRE. He saw a djinn and he spoke to the djinn and the djinn spoke to him. That is where these religions started.

This has go to be the greatest deception in the whole of history.

To your assertions above, I present the following portion of the Scriptures. Look at the italicized words.


Ezekiel 28: 11 The word of YHVH came to me: 12 “Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: ‘This is what the Sovereign YHVH says:
“‘You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: carnelian, chrysolite and emerald, topaz, onyx and jasper, lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. 14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. 15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you.16 Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones.

What if all the messengers (angels) - including the fallen ones - were made of/from the same source?

LordReed:
I am Edo.

Ok.

Now, let us continue.

Do you think I was joking when I said the following?

elated177:
By the Power of YHVH Almighty, my Daddy in the sky, whom you, Reed, show no regard for, I, Elated177, his humble saint, servant and messenger, will continue to determine how the sun shines on you.

elated177:
Reed, whether you like it or not, I, Elated177, a saint, servant and messenger of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth and the seas and everything in them, will continue to use the great and awesome Power of my Daddy in the sky to determine - among other things - how the rain falls on you.


Una go cry, wail, bleat, quack and lament tire. Una no go fit still change am.

LordReed:
Just as obvious as mine.

I am Igbo.

budaatum:
May the will of the God be done.

The will of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, is supreme.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

budaatum:
So, they were ignorant of their unclothedness until their sense of seeing was activated?

Why command they remain blind, Elated? Which kind of God profits from the blind ignorance of its labourers?

Again:

Jeremiah 6: 16 This is what YHVH says:
“Stand at the crossroads and look;
    ask for the ancient paths,
ask where the good way is, and walk in it,
    and you will find rest for your souls.
    But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’

Isaiah 8: 20 Consult God’s instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.

Also consider:

Revelation 2: 24 Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you, 25 except to hold on to what you have until I come.

You will find my direct response from the above Scriptures.

budaatum:
Jesus is Lord!

I can somewhat accept this difference Elated, though, I would rather understand than "believe" and or "believe in".

Anything I "believe" has insufficiently been subjected to the process of ask and seek and knock with all that is buda so buda may actually understand, and then know, and utilise.

You believe in what you have come to understand. The Master, Yahushua the Messiah, never instructed his followers to live in ignorance. In fact:

Job 28: 28 And he said to the human race,
    “The fear of YHVH—that is wisdom,
    and to shun evil is understanding.”

You would have felt, seen, tasted and tested before you "believe in".

Again:

John 9: 35 Yahushua heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” 36 “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.” 37 Yahushua said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.”

budaatum:
For instance. One can believe that Elated will love buda but one would not really know if Elated will love buda until one tests if Elated loves buda or not. After testing if Elated loves buda or not - the ask knock seek part - one would not merely believe Elated loves buda because one would know if Elated loves buda or not.

Of course, by our fruits.

John 14: 15 “If you love me, keep my commands.

John 15:  If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

budaatum:
The head, the mind, what's the difference, though I stand corrected. It is however very easy for people to cook up crap inside their own minds and believe it. You yourself must have met lots of people on here who reason incorrectly because of what they believe with their minds, or haven't you? In fact, is it not your allegation that buda is cooking crap up in other people's minds?

This is why I always tell people to remove their focus from mere mortals and focus on their Maker. Be conscious of your forehead and resist mind control. Look people in the eye when you are talking with them - irrespective of who or what they are. Study the Scriptures for yourself. There is no middle man between Yahushua the Messiah and his followers.

Matthew 11: 28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

budaatum:
The head may have been "wired to comprehend and decipher truth", but without a 'Christ' mind, one you get by much asking and knocking and seeking with all that you are, Scripture has it written in it that one

The Spirit of the Creator of the head - who wired the brain - is the key.


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

budaatum:
Instructed? buda is not instructed.

buda has learnt, amongst many other things however, to love ones fellow human being above all, even above the Gods.

Elated. I love you.

I know one God, the Creator of heaven and earth, he who rules over all the natural phenomena, YHVH Almighty.

Budaatum, listen:

Deut 7: Know therefore that YHVH your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments. 10 But those who hate him he will repay to their face by destruction;
he will not be slow to repay to their face those who hate him.

Psalm 18: 25  To the faithful you show yourself faithful, to the blameless you show yourself blameless, 26 to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the devious you show yourself shrewd.

LordReed:
Tell me yours first.

Is it not obvious?

It is another Sabbath.

LordReed:
You are the one making a claim you refuse to produce evidence for so not only are you unserious you are obviously in denial.

What denial? Tell me your tribe.

M

budaatum:
buda does not believe, period. Elated, if you were not telling porkies about you watching buda you would know this by now!

Budaatum, there is a difference between "believe" and "believe in".

John 9: 35 Yahushua heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” 36 “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.” 37 Yahushua said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.”

budaatum:
Believe is the cooking up of crap in ones head and claiming it is the truth. Look around you. See the believers, in their pastors or the little of the book they have read. They believe, so they seek not.

It is not easy for anyone to cook up crap in his/her head. The head has been wired to comprehend and decipher truth. You see, it is the mind that can be influenced to cook up crap. Hope you understand?

budaatum:
Its why Christ said, "become as a child". He meant, abandon your preconceived beliefs and look with fresh eyes. But I guess some are afraid to use their own senses, perhaps because they believe that on the day that they do seek they shall surely die - despite it clearly written that ignorance is what kills.

Genesis 3: 10 11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

Isaiah 30: 21 Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you, saying, “This is the way; walk in it.”

budaatum:
The lazy believe, Elated. That's why they tremble when the winds blow and the storms come and washes away their foundation of sand while some set their cross on the solid firm rocky ground that leads to understanding and beyond, if such places exist.



Instructed? buda is not instructed.

buda has learnt, amongst many other things however, to love ones fellow human being above all, even above the Gods.

Elated. I love you.