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And he is not going to do so.

Sublime.

Dtruthspeaker:
You have shifted ground to what is not in contention.

Loving the Creator means the person already knows The Creator.

But when God first comes to us we do not know Him, exactly as we cannot love people who we do not know.

Which therefore means that like a stranger we first had to listen to what He has to say and think about it, then if satisfied that it makes sense, then we would obey as shown by what happened to Abraham when God first came to him as Abram and told him to "leave this place and their traditions".

Which we see that he Listened and Obeyed!

I didn't shift any ground. It was you who didn't grasp the message. I have been saying the same thing from the very first post.

It is another Sabbath.

sonmvayina:
According to who?

Who are you following?

Your creator or a crucified Jew?

For the umpteenth time, sonmvayina, go and clear your confusion and come back.

Dtruthspeaker:
Remember God Loved us first, before we love Him back. Therefore, in the beginning, the Truth is that we did not love Him so everyone who followed God, first had to listen to Him and then obey Him before they started loving Him from then on until the relationship became very very sweet and hot.

And I know that you know that it is possible to listen and obey God before we love Him as clearly proven by Namaan who we see did not love God until after he listened and obeyed and was healed.

It is not possible to love the Creator and not obey him?

Are you trying to rewrite the Scriptures? The greatest Commandment has been explicitly stated in the Scriptures. Is it that you do not believe what Yahushua the Messiah said.

Is it possible not to hear the Commandments before obeying them? Can obedience to the Commandments exist without first hearing and learning them? Won't one hear and listen and learn before one obeys? So, when one hears, listens, learns and obeys, one has shown that he or she loves his or her Creator. It is this love for the Creator that spurs on one to obey him, that is, after hearing, listening and learning.

So, you see, loving YHVH Almighty, the Creator of all things and the Father of the spirits of all flesh, with all you have got is the greatest and most important Commandment.

Love for YHVH Almighty encapsulates hearing, listening, learning and obeying.

Deut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHVH our God, YHVH is one. 5 Love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.



Matthew 22: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Yahushua replied: “‘Love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

Dtruthspeaker:
Look and see, Deuteronomy 6:3 came first and it is the same as Exodus 15:26.

Hear and Obey is The First Command above commands.

Without hearing and obedience then Law and Commandments have already been rendered a nulity.

Is it possible to love your Maker and obey his Commandments?

John 14: 15 “If you love me, keep my commands.

Dtruthspeaker:
These are the Greatest Commandments in the world.

Exodus 15:26

1) If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the Lord thy God,

2) and wilt do that which is right in his sight,

3) and wilt give ear to his commandments,

4) and keep all his statutes

What is the difference between what you stated above and Deut 6:4-5?

Dtruthspeaker:
Yes sir! There is One which comes before that one and it is greater.

There is none greater Commandment than the one stated in the portion of the Scripture above.

Yahushua the Messiah affirmed this.

Matthew 22: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

Is it different from the one stated below?

Deut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHVH our God, YHVH is one. 5 Love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

sonmvayina:
That's the one I am talking about..

Go on with your idolatry..

Am not party to it..

My creator forbids it....

Who is JC?

Yahushua the Messiah is the living Torah.

sonmvayina:
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JC...the idol that was nailed to a cross.

It is forbidden to mention the name of an idol....

Who is JC.


Yahushua the Messiah is the living Torah. Yahushua the Messiah is the embodiment of the Commandments of YHVH Almighty.

Ever learning and hearing but never understanding.

Sonmvayina, clear your confusion before you question the Word of YHVH Almighty.

El Elohe Yahshrael!

In the most powerful name, the name of Yahushua the Messiah, the Word of YHVH Almighty, may unparalleled calamities and unprecedented woes fall upon the agents of Satan and the demons, both here and outside this forum, and anyone whom they will ever use in an attempt to strip me of all that my Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, has endowed his saint, servant, follower and messenger, Elated177, with.

You can also pray this one for yourself.

In the name of Yahushua the Messiah, may the thunder and lightning of my Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, strike down anyone whom the forces wickedness and agents of Satan and the demons are using, will ever use or ever want to use to distract me, Elated177, from his purpose for me in this world.

Apt.

sonmvayina:
Torah is the way

Torah is the truth

Torah is life...

Anything else is an idol....

According to God, your relationship with JC is idolatry..

Who is JC?

Torah is the truth, the way and the life. What is scripturally, YHVH's Scriptures, of course, referred to as idolatry?

Have you cleared your confusion yet, sonmvayina?

Sublime.

Apt.

Sublime.

True.

Apt.

El Elohe Yahshrael!

If you are interested, you could say this prayer for yourself:

"May those whose wish it is/was to use a faceless forum, such as this one, to strip me of all that my Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, has bestowed upon me and endowed me with be struck down and destroyed by the thunder and lightning of YHVH Almighty. May the thunder and lightning of YHVH Almighty, my Father in heaven, strike them down, strike them down till they rise no more. May unparalleled calamities and unprecedented woes fall upon them all"

Many will not understand the reason for this. Many will understand the reason for this. There are too many evil-minded individuals here.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Sublime!

Unnatural act.

Very disgusting act.

Abominable filth.

Abominable filth.

Apt. They are not as wise and knowledgeable as they think.

Mighty Warrior.

Mighty Warrior!

Remember to honour the Sabbath next week.