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[quote author=Rafidi post=41182840]Before elections, you visit him, shake him and bend down to him; after elections, attack him, shoot him, beat him, kill his followers, demolish his houses that you visited him in (and call the building illegal) and demolish worship place and then want to take him to court. let us see which court will find this sheikh guilty of any "crime". let us see if procession/protest and practicing beliefs different from the majority is a crime in any democracy that deserves killings and prosecution. or may be Mr. El Rufai will have to take the sheikh to a military court?

what crime has a man whose followers clashed with the army last year, and have 30 of his members and three sons killed committed?

what crime has a man whose followers blocked a highway and got shot by soldiers committed?

what crime has a man whose house was attacked, after the army chief's convoy had passed committed?

what crime has a man whose worship center was attacked, after the army chief's convoy had passed committed?

what crime has a man whose followers got shot in cold blood and extra judicially committed?

what crime has a man who was shot along with his wife and son committed?

what crime has a man whose deputy was shot committed?

i think if anyone deserved prosecution it is Mr. El Rufai himself. and will those who killed civilians go scot-free? will they be made to face justice?

Mr. El-Rufai should find ways to make reconciliation and beg the man for the sins committed against him, his family members and his followers. not take him to court. this is a democracy. you dont send soldiers to kill people in their backyard and get arrested by soldiers as if you are fighting terrorists or a foreign army. if El Rufai doesnt seek reconciliation and how to make peace with this man and his organization, the below handshake will be a divine curse upon El Rfufai and his family till eternity.

when 30 members of zakzzaky's movement and three of his sons were killed last year, el rufai did not call for zakzaky to be prosecuted. he instead described the Nigeria Army as "Jonathanian Genocidal Army". what has changed Mr. EL Rufai?

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[img]http://1.bp..com/-dAHPkGBiESw/VnCA7yR53eI/AAAAAAAHrcQ/Hxyfh4m1VYE/s1600/1.jpg[/img]You don't know what shiism portends. Just check their history out bro. Don't use this 1 incident to adjudge them. Just do a little research on them.

Haters and wailers taking cover. They coming under heavy fire!!!!

drss:
...and the propaganda media trial continue. another distraction for d gullible ones to take away attention from:
-fuel scarcity.
-no light.
-small gen for small businesses banned.
-falling naira.
-ongoing massacre and genocide in d north.
-media blackout of ongoing boko haram sacking of villages.
But wetin concern me with d zoo No single person will be convicted by buari dullaard so call anti kwarrupshun fight. Dasuki n others will be discharged and aquitted of all media kworrupshun charges. Quote me any where.
Even if dem show GEJ on video robbing CBN and World bank, he still remain my Hero!!!!!!!!!!!

Ekpa oooooooooh!!!

Demmocrats:
Even though am APC, i have to say the truth the war against corruption is selective. We are know that Jonathan did his looting but when compared to the previous heads of state its like change. If my Sai Buhari wants to fight corruption truly and recover billions of dollars let him start from those below;

1. Obsanjo
2. IBB
3. Abdulsalami Abubakar

Even former vice presidents and governors that are dancing under the umbrella of APC.

Plz who handed over power to him. Its the duty of successors of a government to probe the immediate ones, or did any one stop jonah from probing obj?

Sweetguy25:
I can see you brightened the picture. You're the only person I know that takes Sanusi as a mentor. What's mentor worthy about him in the first place? Has he ever done anything extraordinary in his life?

That's true sha, but na my mentor too!!!

crosbreaka:
you are talking as a Sunni i guess.

i have been following news for a long time. i have not come across a news that a Shiite suicide bomber blew himself up in a Sunni mosque. it is always the other way round. why?

the weapons i saw in the video are household tools like catapult, stick, and machete in contrast to heavily armed soldiers with guns.

i would advise you to put away your religious sentiments and talk as a human being. most, if not all people on this forum are not Shia, and not even Muslims, but it is out of human sympathy we talk.

Brother keep what the media feeds you aside, they are more agreeable to the west that's y yhu are been told they are peaceful. I am not sunni in any way, I don't believe in sects. But if want to know them then go and read abt them. As for they been suicide bombers, you have nt read enuff then. Shiite suicide bombings usually do occur frequently in iraq. Let me give a clue, Type in the name hassan ibn al-sabah and see what roles he played in undermining muslims.

crosbreaka:
you actually believe the Shiites are a sect like boko haram. that is a misconception. Shiites are found all across the world. it is a version/branch/denomination of Islam, and the other being Sunnis. Muslims all over the world either subscribe to Sunni Islam or Shia Islam. boko haram belongs to Sunni Islam, and not all Sunnis follow boko haram.

the main Islamic organization in Nigeria that Shia Muslims subscribe to is the Islamic Movement in Nigeria led by Zakzaky. but not all of Nigeria's Shiite population belong to Zakzaky's movement. my issue is you cannot castigate, and condemn an entire religion or a version of a religion that millions affiliate themselves to. if there was a problem of law obedience that the government wants the organzation of Zakzaky to adjust, it could have been done without bloodshed.

those people were not armed and you dont attack them with soldiers and kill them because they dont abide by laws or they are unruly in their processions. after the incident and the army chief passed and the road was cleared with force that led to killing seven of the Shiites, there was a follow up attack on the prayer center (hussainiyyah) and the house of the cleric. what is all this for?

That's y I said you don't know shiites, dats y you wld even call them peaceful, you unaware that they had all sorts of weapons with them. You are also unaware that shiites also carry out suicide bombing. An average shiite doesn't believe in obeying any authority aside its own authority, this same issue happened with notable ppl like late adobayero of Kano, even ramalan yero the then kaduna governor. See this guys are effing stubborn. Its either you with them or against them. Why they even low key is because they ar in the minority in Nigeria here. Go and read about what they did to non shiites after they had won the revolution in iran. They are bloody, let the media decieve you. How did you think iraq was conquered, it was with the aid of these traitors called shiites. If they were the only islamic sect left then I wld never be part of them.

Kjking:
see their teeth like shovel

ekpa!!!

ROCKJ1:
Buhari is busy taking selfie and Nigeria is crumbling... no fuel, boko haram, no light, dollar is 280... God Pls save us.

EKPA!!!!

crosbreaka:
it is now getting very obvious and logical why the army would escalate the road clash and later storm the Shiite Hussainiyah (religious center) and the house of Zakzaky to kill at sight and demolish properties after the army chief had already passed, and seven were killed on the road.

it looks like El Rufai had plans all along to demolish their worship center and ban their procession; just waiting for the right excuse and time. El Rufai cannot do without demolition; its in him like Peak Milk! the question now is will these peaceful people be allowed to conduct their religious procession if they seek government cover and permit? or would they be discriminated against? the military action and crimes committed against civilians are not justifiable.

If this same ppl are left to grow into a monster you wld still castigate us that we did nt do anything abt the. We wiser nw, dat boko haram mistake wld never be made ever again, at a point due to the way they were portrayed on media we gave d boko haram subtle support, not until they start killing us. So same goes for the shiites, when yhu defy constituted authority then be ready to dance to the music.

gimakon:
You the bastard.
Aikin banza kawai.

Animal. Because I said the truth you calling your useless father a bastard. Anuofia.

Lol, I knew it would come to showing your low level of maturity. Plz I wldnt give u the pleasure of an e-fight. I advice you and grow up little boy.

Here are the top ten ways
that Islamic law and tradition forbid terrorism

1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is
strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151
says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made
sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is
forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the
state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “…
whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for
wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if
he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a
life, it shall be as if he had given life to all
mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is
impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to
attempt to impose Islam on other people. The
Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion.
The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse wasrevealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the
Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing
people into adopting any religion. They have to
willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The
Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards
peace, do you also incline towards peace. And
trust in God! For He is the one who hears and
knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The
Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God
against those who fight against you, but begin
not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”

4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil
engineer can declare or launch a war. It is the
prerogative of the duly constituted leader of the
Muslim community that engages in the war.
Nowadays that would be the president or prime
minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or
national jurisconsult.

5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is
forbidden. According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu
Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these
instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten
matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or
the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees;
do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’,
“Kitab al-Jihad.”)

6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic
law, which groups it with brigandage, highway
robbery and extortion rackets– any illicit use of
fear and coercion in public spaces for money or
power. The principle of forbidding the spreading
of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an
(Surah al-Ma’ida 5:33–34). Prominent [pdf]
Muslim legal scholar Sherman Jackson writes
, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d.
464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as
‘Anyone who disturbs free passage in the streets
and renders them unsafe to travel, striving to
spread corruption in the land by taking money,
killing people or violating what God has made it
unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”

7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim
commanders must give the enemy fair warning
that war is imminent. The Prophet Muhammad
at one point gave 4 months notice.

8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing
good to those who harm you and is said to have
commanded, “Do not be people without minds
of your own, saying that if others treat you well
you will treat them well, and that if they do
wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead,
accustom yourselves to do good if people do
good and not to do wrong (even) if they do
evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)

9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they
exercise justice toward people even where they
have reason to be angry with them: “And do not
let the hatred of a people prevent you from
being just. Be just; that is nearer to
righteousness.”[5:8]

10. The Qur’an assures Christians and Jews of
paradise if they believe and do good works, and
commends Christians as the best friends of
Muslims. I wrote elsewhere, “Dangerous
falsehoods are being promulgated to the
General public. The Quran does not preach
violence against Christians.

“
Quran 5:69 says (Arberry): “Surely they that
believe, and those of Jewry, and the
Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso
believes in God and the Last Day, and works
righteousness–their wage waits them with
their Lord, and no fear shall be on them,
neither shall they sorrow.”
In other words, the Quran promises Christians
and Jews along with Muslims that if they have
faith and works, they need have no fear in the
afterlife. It is not saying that non-Muslims go to
hell– quite the opposite.

gimakon:
During his first tenure, they found about 2.8billion in the account of a federal minister. His tenure survived only 20months, and he was kicked out by babangida.

When he presented his manifest for elections, it was 1 million naira and 150 cows, all of a sudden, when he was announced Mr President, he announced he has 30 million in his account and rendered the rest of other information inconclusive. What is wrong with declaring his assets. He didn't have money yet his wife used about 135million during his election for campaigns. And buhari isn't a criminal? He's a saint. Because na Northerner abi?

I'm not surprised, if Buhari can come up publicly to National television nd say Abacha didn't steal my money and your money, and moved it to Switzerland, even until now, the loot hasn't fully been recovered,what else can we expect from another northerner like you. Stealing our money and oil wells and moving our money overseas, yet the extent of poverty in the north is second to none. Many of you come here and asks for alms, why won't your northern leaders help the poor ones to develop.

Come to the aspect of marrying your ladies, the rich ones carry thier daughters overseas, and the poor ones are left to marry even at age 12... because of hunger and abject poverty...

Don't allow me to talk to you. I might say something I swear you wouldn't like. They lie to you, and you blindly come to public to flex muscles with people especially the ones that know everything. Nothing you know about Politics. Just lies, thats what your big men in the North tell all of you. The same lies they tell us in this area of Boko Haram. Lies about everything. Na stupid sharia law una wan implement for nigeria, as if that's what is mega grand now.

Mr Know it all, you free to talk to me, all your write up as far am concerned is ur own opinion. You are as gullible as the northerners you accusing of gullibilty. You talk as if other regions are free from ills. If the igbos are well developed and contented I doubt if they wld be agitating abt biafra. Plz go and get ur facts right b4 you come here and spill trash mr know it all. I bet you are privy to all that is happening abi, or mayb you a relative to some of them in government. If you hate the northerners you can go ahead no 1 stops you from hating, cos I doubt if ur hate is gonna do sh!t abt this presidency. And about sharia law, what problem do have about it, and if not propaganda that u been fed with, how can a man introduce sharia into a country that is not purely occupied by muslims, we have other religions too in other regions. Plz keep up the hate it doesn't change anything joor. Aikin Banza kawai!!!

seunmsg:

“President Buhari is not a president of APC. He is the president of PDP, President of the masses and president of the whole Nigeria.”


Kashamu is really showing class and leadership. NL wailers should take a cue from him. Perpetually abusing the president even without reason most times is not the way to go.

Abi ooh, if drug baron go fit commend bubu, haba make wailers take cue nw.

Tallesty1:
You don't get it, do you?



The first thing that comes to a Nigerian lady's mind when you ask for her number is that you want to woo.

So why waste time wooing her again when she already know what you want?

Wetin you wan tell her wey she never hear?


We are in sharp sharp century dear.

I laff so tey person wey sidon close to me think say I don dey mental. Just can't stop laffing!!!!

charlycharles:
My dear am nt against any part of this nation occupying d seat of d president NO ... am nt against u nor ur brother bubu. all am saying is that he who wants to change d world should first change himself.

Mayb we coming to a meeting point here. Even among crooks, there are not so bad crooks. All we saying is EVEN IF bubu is a crook, then he is atleast better than some of the crooks, dats all am pointing out here. I believe he is human and must make and wld kip making mistakes, but what we saying is we all need 1 another to move forward together. After we all nigerians, and I don't think the ghanians wld come ad develop our country 4 us, it tru our collective efforts no matter hw little that we wld reach the promise land. Its been interesting talking to yhu sha. One love bro!!!

charlycharles:
wetin u sabi abt power...
thank God ur saint innocent bubu collected em own share clean mouth, poverty striken abokis. ur bubu a former head of state, fmr minister of petroleum, fmr ptf chairman, rtd general yet he was damn broke.
think abt it. and in ur widest wet dream u xpect such fellow to move more than 150 million Nigerians to d path of prosperity and build a great economy..
continue dreaming. u and ur likes.

Son of hate plz keep hating, if yhu so rich I doubt if yhu wld b on Nairaland posting poo abt someone yhu can do next to nothing abt. Like I said u can't do sh!t abt this presidency, shame to yhu cos a northerner is ur presido.

gimakon:
Very incorrigible.
Make we hear word Biko. Shoeless clueless one. Read your profile and u from the north,how and why should I be surprised. Hear say politics is what you are made of.
When buhari completes his tenure we would then know. Way the same dasuki don call him name already, he admitted it, and that entails, more is yet to come.
Even your Tinubu is most wanted in America. Who knows buharis own. Time.will tell stop ranting.

Let your anointed one defeat boko haram. I would personally commend him and speak otherwise. Till then, his cluelessness is first class. The weakest president in the entire universe.

Lol I can feel ur pain, yhu cldnt take a chill pill, yhu had to personally check profile out. It doesn't change anything. If there is anything yhu wanna do abt buhari, I advice u wait till 2019 until den plz keep hating. I hope u don't have heart attack if at da tail end he ends up performing. As for dasuki calling his name, how much dem talk say him chop, aside from d suv wey him collect. Anything negative abt buhari is what u jump on like hungary men. As for gej biko, we wld continue saying it, he has been a failure!!!

gimakon:
Stop the rubbish you rant here. Which one is Jonathan diverted money, what money did he divert? Your super clueless Emir of Daura even came on national newspapers and said GEJ is corrupt free, na em you come here day talk this one. What's your problem?

When GEJ was leaving, we all saw the tremendous progress he was making with this guys. E reach your anointed man turn, see as the country day go, e no go hard you now, you go come one day say na Patience Jonathan day romance with Shekau na why them join alliance for boko haram. Mind what you rant and write on here.

Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan don comot from seat courtesy of your vote, in 7 months, the blunders your president has caused will further take this country another 50 years to grow. We not in bond index, we have issues with China, look at our currency, there is inflation everywhere. People who ran good business everywhere are in debts as we speak, na jonathan cause am? Wetin you day talk like this? Even the Shia crisis, did Buhari say a word? But today you here chanting praises and calling Jonathan a thief, when your anointed clueless one admitted to receiving cars from Dasuki, you still come here day rant... how you day even do your own politics sef?

Lol ur rant no go stop d fact say ppl around him stole, yhu fit use ur mouth talk thing yhu want to make ur self believe but we all knw ur hero was effing clueless, his officers were just stealing left right center, me for wan hear how yhu go take counter d dasuki issue. Monies meant 4 arms was diverted, abi dat 1 too na propaganda abi, even if him no take 1 kobo, d truth remains dat it was right under his watch. If he claims nt to b aware then to goes to prove that he really is clueless. Thank God we kicked their asses out. Any 1 whose nt cool with it shld plz follow d shoeless clueless one to otueke. We now knw stealing is corruption Asap!!!

priscaoge:
And someone will come here to tell me that GEJ did not try his best in fighting insurgency

This administration is a very big SCAM.

Instead of killing and wiping the Boko boys, na innocent and unarmed Biafra protesters una go de kill. Ndi ara

INDEED THERE WAS A COUNTRY

Its ur hero gej who is a scam and also a big thief at that, his supporters like urself shld bury their heads in shame. What happened to funds meant for this same fight, wasn't it diverted into his campaign. We grateful to God his ass was kicked out.

drss:
an attack on boko haram is an attack on d north. - buari boko chief.
buari's boys at work.

Where is ur evidence, at least we all knw ur hero gej was a sponsor too, cos he diverted funds meant 4 this same fight.

charlycharles:
GEJ remains a Hero...
Never Again will Nigerians be scammed by political 419ners.

Gej remains a clueless thief. Dasuki is our proof!!!

EternalTruths:
Funny

The same army that wants to open 3 new war fronts can not stop BH


Who says Jonathan did not try need his head examined.

Lol, he tried to da point dat monies meant 4 arms and ammunitions were looted. Ur hero is a thief!!!

2chainzz:
Islam!!!

And what has islam got to do with it? Mstchewwwww some ppl are just too shallow minded abeg!!!

Those of you calling them peaceful really don't knw anything abt them. Its nw peaceful because they have been tutored on how to behave. We regret da loss of lives sha but 4get it this dudes aint peaceful in any way!!!

gadgetsngs:
what's the difference? Am sure they will prefer death sentence to this

Says who, abi most of them no get family ni?

Truckpusher:
Your broom waving demonic party tried that shiit in Bayelsa and it backfired - Rivers State is on a serious lockdown for the PDP and you can take that to the bank.

Shey na nija politics yhu dey make mouth on top. We all knw wat happens in elections, unless its allowed to proceeed free ad fair else no matter your shouting, if da power at da centre wants a state, it wld get dat state so abeg 4get dat thing wey yhu dey yan. D ordinary man wld just killed himself 4 nothing.

okpara007:
Probaby those workers he sacked are all christains...time to put those brodas selling suya along d road to begin teach mat101

Look how shallow minded this poster is abeg.

kekakuz:
[size=20pt] Seven pdp elections notified in less than 7 months?
I break sweat for the future of this nation [/size]

When dem never even start anything self!!!

okosodo:
LOL. This time it will be epic like APC-1280 PDP-482509

Atleast by then it wld be free and fair. Yhu wanna rule then follow the right meanz else they wld kip losing seats.

benedictnsi:
she still didn't make any sense ........ I don't wana call her clueless

Hater alert!!!

maasoap:
Do you care to tell us what you know about them that we don't?

Go and read abt their history and the roles they have played in undermining islam its self. All this while iran has never found it expedient to send its condolences on our losses resulting from boko haram, but when their members are taught hw to respect authority they are quick to respond. Even in iran, I don't think its COAS wld be subjected to what ours was put through by dis shiites.