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hopefulLandlord:
1. we don't attack "Christians", we poke holes in their god idea

Like what kind of holes?

hopefulLandlord:
we don't argue with folks about Santa, the Easter Bunny, GoT, Spidernan or the Tooth Fairy, because we don't find entire religious movements dedicated to deifying - let alone worshiping - the main characters at the center of any of THESE fables, like we do with the God myth. If you lived in a country where the majority of people believed in all these, you really wouldn't say something about it!?

And, i'm here wondering why you bother with what i do with my life. What i do, i do with my time, money and resources, why it bothers you so much to make you lose sleep is what amazes me.
Why aren't bothering the Astrologers and New Age believers right here in this forum?
The Hindus and Buddhists go undisturbed, but people gathering to worship their Fables causes you to lose sleep. Believe me, something is in Christianity that satan is fighting against, but sorry, it's too late, the train has already left the station.

hopefulLandlord:
this is an unadulterated lie!
Christians aren't known for "leaving other religions alone" infact a major tenet of your religion involves not leaving others alone lol, what a big lie!

Hmmmm, You just lied and you know it. Listen to preachers on TV and take notes, you'd see they are guided by the sermon they prepare. i have never been in a church service where the pastor leaves his sermon to talk about Islam or new agers, if you have any evidence, post it here. Unlike Muslims who mention us in their prayers 5 times a day to lay curses on us. In their mosques they teach their folks to hate and kill us.

Stop lying abeg.

hopefulLandlord:
I, personally, dislike it because it's a blatent attempt to bully you through fear into accepting their point of view. 'You'll burn in hell' isn't a rational arguement, it's a psychological attack. It makes me angry because I know there are atheists who report that as children, they were in constant fear of hell, and it's just so pointless. There are enough real things to be frightened of without burdening vulnerable minds with hell.

How many times have you been told that Hellfire was not created for man? Are you being dishonest on purpose? Hope, if you end in hellfire will be because you chose to end there. Every human under the sun has sinned, and is bound for hellfire, but, there's an escape which you have WILLINGLY 'chosen' REFUSED TO ACCEPT, yet you shout hellfire everyday. Who is sending you there?

BTW, If you call my beliefs fables, why is the Hellfire my fables teach a threat to you? I know you'll jump over this question.

hopefulLandlord:
that's WRONG! and you know it!! if we accept your god idea is true, it would make no sense to infer from it that he created something for another set of people and didn't know he'll add others to it later, that doesn't agree with the idea of an omniscient being

What did He create for another set of people but did not add others but added them later?

tintingz:
SMH, show me where people gather to worship Spiderman like religious people do.


Oh Lord Spiderman you're worthy to be praised, you're the greatest acrobatic God with webs, you sense evil and conqured evil with your powerful ability, oh Lord Spiderman lead us to the right path and don't make us dwellers of green goblin Hades.

When I said threatening, I meant hell threatening.

I was In a bus around Yaba side, a preacher in the bus preaching against abortion, porn Watching, clubbing, indecent dressing, drinking etc and he was just threatening people with eternal hell and the funniest thing was a man beside me was drinking alcohol.

Your problem is that people worship God abi? I thought your problem is that they bother you? Why is worshipping YHWH an issue to you? Do they come into your room to do it? lol. Why dont Muslims who wake you up with loud speakers bother you?

Pls tell me the advantages of;
Abortion(Murder)
Pornography.(Lust)
Drinking (Alcoholism).
Licentiousness (indecent dressing)
Clubbing (riotciousness)
Let me give you their disadvantages, i won't need to quote the Scriptures here.

tintingz:
People talk about Game of thrones, are they insane?

You don't talk about Olympus because there's no Hellenism where you are, are you saying you don't bother about Muslims?

Dude, we'll have to criticize anything.

I don't see Satanist threatening people with eternal hell, even tho hell is thier Paradise.

The two religion I'm very familiar with are Christianity and Islam.

Who's angry about a confused religion? The only people angry about Christianity are your sisters in faith Islam and Jews.

What I criticize about these religions is how they make people do silly things.

Lolzzzzzzs. I don't see you attacking people who talk about Spiderman and Game Of Thrones, but i see you attacking Christians.

I believe we are in the internet and internet has not Binderies. If there are no Hellenist believers around me, there are New Agers, why am i not fighting them for their beliefs?

Believe me with everything that's dear to you, if Muslims will leave Christians alone just like the Hindus leave us, I will never even remember they exist., but just like you atheists and satanists, they won't let us be. Constant killing of Christians, in their Mosques they talk more about us than about themselves, Just like you guys do.
Very soon, atheists will also begin to kill Christians with the way you guys arw going.

Have you been threatened with Hellfire before? And if yes, why does it bother you? I mean, why do you consider it a threat if it's just crap as you said?

Now, let me put your mind to rest, i know it won't rest, but just know that God never created Hellfire foe man, He created it for satan and demons.

Are you Satan? Are you a demon or are demons living inside of you? If your answer is No, why then does Hellfire bother you so much to consider it a threat?

dalaman:
I know that your God is a creation of the ancient Jews and their superstitions.

Proof?

dalaman:
All the religious Gods(Allah, Yahweh, Amun Ra, Brhama, Sango, Zeus etc )are creation of men.

Why don't you talk about YHWH, the God of the Christians you are having this diacussion with? Why jump about like someone standing in a bee hive?

How do you know Elohim doesn't exists, since you don't know how life began?

tintingz:
Evidence for this spirit?

Me.

tintingz:
Not that I don't want to believe in afterlife, we don't certainly know what happens afterlife, we don't know if there's afterlife or not, religion concept of afterlife is crap so I don't believe in thier afterlife.

I've right to talk about afterlife, you've right to talk about Olympus.

U don't believe in Afterlife because it's Crap, but you talk about it more than i who beleive in it. Isn't that insanity?

What is Olympus? The heaven of the Greek gods? I dont believe in it, so doesnt talk about it. I will never bother those who believe in the Greek gods or the New Age believers. And I don't see you fighting them either, only Christians.

Why don't fight Satanist, Eckankar, Grand Masters like those in 'The Middle Path' once in a while. When you meet sorcerers, you clap for them meanwhile they also believe in Spirits which talks about AfterLife.

Why are you people so angry and incenced against Christians and Christianity?
Guy, there's something about Christianity that satan wants to destroy, but it won't work.

tintingz:
Can you show me church of Spiderman or Spiderman fans threatening people to accept Spiderman as a supreme deity or burn in hell?

Wow. This is hilarious. Church of Spiderman? So super Heros and Santa Claus are not taken serious in the Western World? Are for real?

Wait, your problem is that there are Churches? How have you are being threatened by their preachings. Hmmm.

Tell me, what are the exact words they use to threaten you?

You know what surprises me? Muslims kills you atheists and hlmosextuals. They openly threaten to kill you, but you don't have issues with them, but Christians who simply invite you or share the Word with you, you hate them and call their preaching threats. How convinient.

Empiree:
Did i ask you for "tafsir" of Malach 2:3?. Why did you interpret the verse?. That's my point. plainbibletruth can relate. He knows what i am talking about. If the bible is clear why did you have to interpret DUNG?

And you were told that reinterpretation is not the same thing as interpretation, but because you want to dodge the main point, you refused to take it.

Empiree:
we are acquainted with them. They are dull.

Do you believe that?

UmarIbnShittu:
in d bible there are not prophet which must have been misinterpreted to keep you sinking in ignorance


Ismael and his father built the kaabah. Where all muslims face to worship Allah


Sir pls let end this discussion here because some guys are provoking me already to avoid venting the anger on the wrong person pls sir let's end it here

I can't see any provocation in any post to you nah? It's only questions that have been asked so far. Why donyou feel provoked?

tintingz:
Do people take Spiderman serious?

Yes they do. You don't?

tintingz:
You're a physical concious being not a Spirit.

I'm a spirit who lives in a body.

saintmark88:
Amneron, Analice, oladegbu pls leave Muslims alone...what kind of people r u....u criticize catholics, cricize jw, cele, latter day saint, now Muslims.......what is ur problem...can't u live without criticizing other peoples belief, if u don't stop this den that thing ur looking for u will find it o...be careful

Hahahahahahahahaha. Answer simple questions, and leave threats alone. We no dey fear una bombs.

UmarIbnShittu:
Hadiths on Importance of Cleanliness

Here the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) gave the greatest importance to remaining clean by declaring it as a part of faith.

1. Abu Malik Al-Ash`ari (RA) reported that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
“Purity is half of iman (faith). “

Prophet Muhammad (SAW) provided Muslims with a means to please Allah (SWT) through something that is beneficial to them.

2. Aisha (RA) reported that the Prophet (SAW) said, “The miswak (a twig used for tooth brushing) cleanses and purifies the mouth and pleases the Lord.”
(An-Nasa’I and IbnKhuzaimah; authenticated by Al-Albani)

3. Abu Hurairah (RA) reported that the Messenger of Allah (SAW) said,
“Were it not that I might overburden my followers, I would have commanded them to use the miswak before every prayer.”
(Al-Bukhari and Muslim)

Prophet Muhammad (SAW) declared personal hygiene to be basic human nature.

4. Abu Hurairah (RA) reported that the Prophet (SAW) said:
“Five practices are of the fitrah (natural disposition): circumcision, shaving the pubic region, clipping the nails and cutting the moustaches short.”
(Al-Bukhari and Muslim)

Prophet Muhammad (SAW) informed us of one of the ways on how to gain forgiveness on the best day for Muslims

5. Abu Dharr (RA) reported that the Prophet (SAW) said:
“Whoever takes a bath on a Friday and does it well, and purifies himself and does it well, and puts on his best clothes, and puts on whatever Allah decrees for him of the perfume of his family, then comes to the mosque and does not engage in idle talk or separate (pushing between) two people; he will be forgiven for (his sins) between that day and the previous Friday.”
(IbnMajah and authenticated by Al-Albani)

Prophet Muhammad (SAW) not only gave importance to personal hygiene by also informed us to keep the environment clean.

6. Mu`adh (RA) reported that the Prophet (SAW) warned,
“Beware of the three acts that cause you to be cursed: relieving yourselves in shaded places (that people utilize), in a walkway or in a watering place.”
(Ranked sound, hasan,by Al-Albani)

7. Abu Dharr Al-Ghafari (RA) reported that the Prophet (SAW) said,
“Removing harmful things from the road is an act of charity (sadaqah).”
(Authenticated by Al-Albani)



So is either you are lying or they don't knw what they are doing or they are not muslims

Wall'Allahu a'alam

Why then do Muslims smell so badly? Men, those people smell. With the washing you claim you wash, yet you Smell. Ewww. I wonderdul how Women who marry Muslims cope.

OLAADEGBU:
What is the difference between being demon possessed and demon oppressed?

I think Demonic possession is when demonic entities gains the Will of a host whether directly or indirectly to dwell inside the body of a living person and manipulate the person to act in a certain manner, as in the case of the Simon the sorcerer in the book of Acts 8:9 and in Acts 16:17 we are told about a Damsel possessed with the spirit of divination which was used for sorcery too. These two cases are examples of demonic possessions. Also the case of the Child brought to the Apostles when Jesus went up the mountain to meet Moses and Elijah whom the Apostles couldn't cast the demons out.

But dominc oppression is demonic activites of evil spirits against someone from without. Anyone they can not enter, they hinder and cause blockades.
Case in point; Daniel in the book of Daniel 10:13. Demons oppresses Christians more who they can't possesse by causing hinderances, delays, frustrations, disappointments, and hardships. They do this by working not in those they hinder, but in those from whom help should come from.

Satan couldn't enter Daniel like he entered the Astrologers, but, he hindered Angel Gabriel whom he knew will not engage him in battle.

Satan pushed the Astrologers in Babylon to instigate the King to pass a decree which will implicate Daniel, hence kill him by throwing him into the Lions Den.

Satan moved Hamman to oppress Modicai and plot his dead.

tintingz:
There is no evidence for afterlife, what happens afterlife is not certainly known yet, all we read are just mumbo jumbo by religious freaks.

Lolzzzzz,@religious freaks.
You know? It's very funny how you guys take so much bothering what the religious freaks thinks and say.

I consider this insanity. You don't believe in after life, but you don't stop talking about it. You even talk about it more than us who believe ut, why?

tintingz:
There is no evidence for a conscious spirit yet.

I am an evidence. I'm a spirit and i'm concious.

tintingz:
These fictions are real to me.

I don't go about saying Superman is the true God.

I'm still waiting for you. YHWH is as fictitious as Spider Man, pls show me how you have extensively criticized him or his producer for producing a ficticious character decieving kids.

truthislight:
Yes, the understanding of the scriptures needs help, but we human are material/Literal/Physical persons and the Bible is a physical book that can be understood with proper study and inquisitiveness.

Don't go all spiritual Here.

Especially, the questions he posted are literal question that demand patience and consistency in researching the relationship.

If you say that God gave his word to man and did not make it literal/physical, you are excusing those that have never been diligent and patient in researching the scriptures for them to say it was never there for them to see.

There is no way a sinner can be all spiritual before the can read the Bible be for they can understand.

Peace

Did you just say this...

truthislight:
Yes, the understanding of the scriptures needs help, but we human are material/Literal/Physical persons and the Bible is a physical book that can be understood with proper study and inquisitiveness.

The Bible as a book, may be a physical book, but the words contained therein aren't hence we need the Holy Spirit for revelations to understand it.

Jesus called the Word of God Spirit and Life.

And, i am not just a Material/literal/Physical being. I am Primarily a Spirit having a soul and living in a body.
When my flesh/body dies, the real me (spirit) lives on.

truthislight:
Rationally, the above is how an argument should be made, with verifiable evidence for and against and not just based on emotions like the below.

when you assumed you always have all the facts and whatever you say on the issues is final, such leads to the below post.

You acted in this manner as the below on another thread postulating that the OT in no place mentioned nor prophesy about the coming of the Messiah to die for man. I belief the proof was shown to you, but you forgot to come back and concede to the contrary.

The Post below should be presented as a question and evidences for the motion properly presented and all the scriptures posted for all to see.

While some people did have similar questions in the past, they rather "kept on asking and knocking". At least, that was what i did.




Am not here to say that evil men never tampered with the bible nor am i saying that copyist never made mistakes while carrying out their job, rather, I am saying, where we have such, it is there for all to see and certain ancient manuscripts have resurfaced to help restore the manipulations and errors.

Show more patience in researching and praying, it sure does help.

Peace.

You seem knew to this guy. lol. He is one of those plants who pretends to be an insider to weakens the sheep from within.

Jhaytee4all:
This is absolutely groundless.

Don't even bother with the lost, for what has the living got to do with dead?

Goshen360:
Oh Lord....here he comes again!

Yeah, he shall get religion mixed with New Age.

adepeter2027:
I have never done that, but have discussed it countless of times with my friends.

While offline, I don't discuss god / religion related issues with them.

So your point?

My point is, you spend too much time talking about a ficticous god but little or nothing about spider man or Harry Potter. Open a thread criticizing Harry Potter for once.

tintingz:
I talked about Batman and superman a lot, I know their stories, Why can't I talk about them?

Give me the links to the threads you opened to Criticize them for being fiction.

tintingz:
In our physical world one is dead, what happens after that is not certainly known.

It's only the body which dies, the spirit lives on.

adepeter2027:
It's what then? Hibernation? Relaxation? Flexing? Transformation?

Transition.

adepeter2027:
For the same reason people keep watching new release of Harry Potter and Star wars despite they are fictitious

How many times have you opened a thread about Harry Potter and Star Wars?

tintingz:
Your Bible said your God is holy or is your God not holy? Your God only exist in your Bible and imagination so I'm using your Bible and imagination.

If God is seeing people having sex then why is he angry when people watch porn?

This is bull-crap, this sounds like superstition.

Why then do you waste your time on this bullcrap? You don't believe in the imaginary Holy God who only exist in the Bible, but you go on talking about Him. lolzzz

tintingz:
Go in front of a moving bus and see if there is nothing like death.

Lolzzzz, That just causes a transition. Immediately you leave this body, you'd find yourself in another.

hopefulLandlord:
Have you heard the song "What a beautiful name" by Hillsong worship?

I visited my mum for the weekend and she played it on repeat throughout Saturday in her room, it sounded very melodious; I recommend every Christian to give it a shot

I have downloaded it. Thanks. I love it.

hopefulLandlord:
Have you heard the song "What a beautiful name" by Hillsong worship?

I visited my mum for the weekend and she played it on repeat throughout Saturday in her room, it sounded very melodious; I recommend every Christian to give it a shot

Hillsong music holds me down. I have a collection of their songs. I need to download their recent songs.

Thanks for the title, i'll get it.