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plainbibletruth:
The plain truth is this: Salvation is ENTIRELY God's work. Any belief to the contrary is an affront to the matchless grace of God.

Anyone who says that man MUST do something or ADD SOMETHING to make God's work complete is the one that is teaching a doctrine from the father of lies.

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These are pertinent questions/issues:
1. Can the "New creation" (2 Cor. 5:17) be destroyed?
2. Will God "un-declare" what in his righteousness he has previously declared justified (Rom. 5:1)?
3. Does eternal life (John 3:16) not mean eternal?
4. Will God go back on his promise and cancel the deposit that guarantees eternal life (Eph. 1:13-14)?

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1. Salvation is not what a person works for.
Salvation is a GIFT from God.

2. For the Christian to lose his salvation then he has to be:
Un-born again
Un-redeemed
Un-justified
Separated from the love of God
God's seal of guarantee removed
God's FREE GIFT withdrawn
Un-etc, etc.

3. If a sin-free life is NECESSARY for salvation, AND that can only be known when a person lives "sin-free" at the point of death, then NOBODY can truly say he is "SAVED" yet and perhaps not really until in eternity.

4. Since sin is "whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it" James 2:10 THEN even ONE SIN disqualifies anyone from claiming a sin-free life.

5. In other words, a person who fails to KEEP one single command of God is GUILTY of sin and will not be considered HOLY before God.

6. SIN is not just murder, adultery, lying, and obvious sins that people usually look at. SIN is both a nature and exists even in thought - "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Matt. 5:28. How many Christians can claim they do not sin "in their hearts"?

7. Again, for example, how many Christians can HONESTLY CLAIM to obey Philippians 2: 3-4 "Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others."

8. How many Christians "value others above" themselves?
How many Christians look to "the interests of the others"?
How many can SINCERELY answer in the affirmative to these two questions? And these are God's instructions for the Christian.

10. Therefore to the extent that a Christian FAILS to obey a SINGLE instruction of God - even this: "be anxious for nothing" (Phil. 4:6) - to that extent the Christian has SINNED. Because he has DISOBEYED God's word. And EVERY disobedience is sin.

11. So ANY CHRISTIAN who thinks he qualifies for eternity with God because he lived a sin-free life must be PERFECT!

12. Salvation is therefore either a GIFT through and through or else impossible for man to work for or attain on a basis that INCLUDES man's merit.

Hmmmm. All you wrote up here makes a lot of sesne, only, there's a little nagging inside of me as i read what The Master said to the Sadisan Chrustians in Rev. 3;

Revelation:3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Pls let's note the bolded. We know that our names are not written in the Book of Life until we become New Creations in Christ. What this means is that, we get Born Again, our names enters into the Book, but the master is saying, if we after having our names written in the book of Life, there's need to endure and Overcome till the end, hence OUR NAMES WILL BE BLOTED OUT FROM THE BOOK OF LIFE.

IF WE ENDURE AND FALL NOT AWAY AFTER WE HAVE BEEN SAVED, THEN OUR NAMES REMIANs IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, but what if we don't endure to the end?

Still to the Sadisan Church, He said in verse chpt3:2. I know WHAT YOU ARE DOING, everyone may thinks you are alive, but you are dead, wake up! You have a little strength left, and it is almost gone, so try to become stronger. I have found out that you are not completely obeying obeying God.

3. Remember the teachings you heard. Hold firmly to it and turn from your sins, if you don't, i will come when you least expect it.

Then in verse 5 He said, those who will endure and overcome to the end He shall not blot out their names from the Book Of Life.


Brother, the people being addressed by the Master here are not the heathens or pagans, but believers in church who had heard the Word, believed and got saved, but returned to their sins.


If we recieve the Word of God, but allow our zeal to cool off, hence; compromise, we can risk having our names blotted out of the Book of Life.

If the Master says, He will not blot out the names of the faithfuls, then He will blot out the names of the unfaithfuls.


This is my believe.

Cc: Mudleylaff. Pls say something here.

Sarassin:
Yay...my one and only Cara Mia who 'loves to hate me', or should that be who 'hates to love me'. I do not do cults though, they are so banal!

There's no iota of hatred in my heart for you. Far be it from me. When you look into my heart all you'll see is love love love for sarassin. Paraventure my father will see it and cross you over for me .

That's why i directed Daddy correctguy101 to you.

Respect, Mia caro.

MuttleyLaff:
My sis, you know yourself, that, when seagulls follow the trawler it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea

True, very true.

MuttleyLaff:
You can breathe again
Good you dont haul rocks, I would have said drop them
Your caramia merely posted a passing comment

Hello bros. Happy sunday. Didn't know you are following.

Sarassin:
Errm...have I done something?

No Mia Caro. Correctguy wants to be initiated into a cult without drinking blood or making human sacrifices, i only directed him to you. I know you can help him with that.

correctguy101:
There's no strange or evil power in Occultism.
The power in Occultism is based on knowing and understanding how nature works and using it to one's benefit...

Oh yeah? There's nothing in Ocultic practies yet it's hidden? Are you sure ocultsm is knowledge about how nature works and yet you need to go through rigours to be an initiate?

Some people drink blood, some are made to commit Necrophilia, some still are made to kill their loved ones just to be initiates, yet there's nothing evil in ocult right?

Will you confidently say Sir Alister Crowley was not an Ocult man?

correctguy101:
What you call evil might not be exactly evil when many other things are brought into consideration. It's all subjective.

The operative word there will be 'might', meaning, what i as a non- initiate calls evil, you do not call evil.
What are these many other things which can be conaidered? Lets consider them sir.

correctguy101:
Imagine someone calling a tsunami evil, a hurricane, volcanic eruptions and other natural events evil
Wetin concern nature, things must happen the way they must and those of the occult understands this even how to manipulate these to their benefit.

I hope these are not the things to be brought under consideration?

correctguy101:
That's why I dey find a serious place to get initiated, no be all these quasi-spiritual morons drinking and making blood sacrifices and claiming to be satanists or spiritualists.

Abeg, anyone that has a counter on this comment should quote it jor. Daddy na still learner.

[/quote]Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Ask Sarassin.

correctguy101:
Abeg, sombori give this man 2 escort girls


Most people even ignore their dictionary and see occult as something evil... SMH

Occult simply means "hidden".
Hidden knowledge is not for all, cos the masses are seen as mindless sheeple and they've proved it more than anything.
Scriptures are for the masses while the main " koko, the hidden truth and realities" are for a select few- the initiated..

There's nothing evil about Occultism. People should stop that very egoistical attitude of reading just one book and start feeling like they know everything in the whole world.

Those who are seekers of real truth and knowledge recognize they're learners and will always be learners even after studying far and wide.

You can imagine someone having read his/her Bible from beginning to end will still say the Satan is a liar or Satan comes to kill and destroy
When asked where in the whole Bible s
it is written that Satan killed even a mosquito, they go dey look like ode but will doggedly assert their way out.

People like deceiving themselves, infact they enjoy it and it makes them feel smart, that's why I barely have time to start trying to convince anyone of a glaring fact, any glaring fact...

All this grammar is not necessary. I only asked for source. What is the source of the power behind hidden ocult pratices?

dalaman:
When you male claims without any basis or evidence the only way I can show you how baseless your claim is, is to show you similar claims others are making. If you tell me that Yahweh created the universe(without any evidence). The only way I can show you how basless that claim is , is by showing you that others have made such claims about their various Gods as well.

If you tell me that I'll burn in hell for not believing our stories all I need to do is to tell you that you'll also rot in Allah's he'll for not believing in his own stories. Am using other religions to show you how empty your assertions are in reality.

That spells insanity more because the religions you talk about still tell you you'd burn in hellfire.


This is dumb.

ChrisKonor:
More books...and many others not listed here..

Have you read these books?

dalaman:
I reminding you that you are the resident mor0n. Every one calls you Felixmoron.

I sense you are using reverse psychology, because reading here, believe me, you are more moronic than a child with down syndrome. No offence.

Babalawos:
Alot can be done with aura. I will advise you first master the basics "seeing lights and colours in darkness"

I'm not a satanist sir. He beneath me. Jesus is Lord.

dalaman:
I don't believe any of the alleged creators including yours because of lack of evidence .

What should i now term you as? An insane man or a dishonest man? Anytime there is a discursion with Christians about their God, you who claim does not believe in any god at all, keep throwing in Brahma, Allah, Vishnu Eni, Zeus and other gods. What should we call this, Insanity?

If you don't believe in any god at all, why don't you maintain your atheistic stance in a discussion rather than bring in other gods to support your argument?

Are you deliberately being dishonest or your problem is only with the God of the Christians?

I'm not comfortable with this your moniker. I have a mental picture of a mature man, but your moniker seems like a youth. That said.


You are owing me a response in our previous discourse.

correctguy101:
This woman...

Everything different from your beliefs is Satanism to you, why?

The reason is becos, in the spirit realm, there's no middle ground. Nothing like neutrality. Nothing like, i'm neither for God or satan. If there is, then tell me.

correctguy101:
There's more than white and black, for I see you forcing almost everything ( if not everything) in a box where there's either Satan or God

Everything is in that box sir. If there's another sources where we as draw power from, pls tell me about it.

God created all things, including satan and demons. Their powers is what the children of darkness use. If they are deceived to believe their power is not from satan, then i stand to be corrected. And, i'm open to this knew knowledge.

correctguy101:
There's more dear girl. And God and Satan has nothing to do with it.

What is that MORE, dearest Sir?

correctguy101:
What brings Satanism here now? abeg tell me cos I only saw coolestchris trying to knack two people's head together

In my other life (Moniker), i have talked with these men extensively. We know ourselves. One of the names is my love, if not that we belong to different camps. He's a man i respect (His control and intelligence endears him to me). So, i ve been around. I know who and what they are. I'm not guessing.

correctguy101:
And you have brought Satanism into it again. Or I'm I missing something or you're too obsessed with tackling satanists that you fail to notice not all that subscribe to your form of worship are satanists?

The metaphysical, there are two powers. YHWH and Satan, just like there's only Light and darkness. Nothing in between. It's either you are here or there.

The deception that there's another source of power is what some of us are here to point out.

correctguy101:
Dear, I just tire cos my mind no understand again.
What's your obsession with Satanism about? don't tell me you feel you can win them for your Lord o cos I know satanists are kolo people o

Many are in the Camp of satan believing there's no evil in satan. I have been here, i have read them banter. And you are here too, trying to let out that there's nothing like satanism and no one worships satan. Really? Hahahahahaha.

Will anything be wrong if i win them from darkness into light? From eternal death to eternal life?

Billyonaire:
You need to read more on polarity.

You have read polarity right? Okay. Now tell me. What is the source of the Occult? Where do they draw their energy (Power)from.

hopefulLandlord:
Nagel threw out his views and you called him honest? that's being economical with the truth cuz what you said is "No Nigerian atheist can be this honest", you regard it as honesty cuz it resonates with your opinion

Are his views right or wrong? Are they true of atheists, especially you or not?

Case in point. The Cause of the Universe.

You don't know what or who caused it, but you don't believe it is God. Even when there are indications He did, you insist he is not. If you are asked why you say He is not, you'd ask to be convinced, but you have your ways which you want to be convinced, knowing God will not answer to you, hence, you insist He is not.

See your sense?







Dead...

Babalawos:
Aboru Aboye

Let me elaborate on seeing colors and light in third activation.

SEEING COLORS AND LIGHTS IN DARKNESS ARE THE FIRST SIGNS OF THIRD EYE ACTIVATION.

The colors and light you see in darkness are auras. Everything has aura.

There is a type of divination called aura divination or aura reading.

By mere looking at a person or group of people or names or photograph or vehicles.... you could see the aura and when you interpret the aura, you will get confidential information that literally you were not supposed to get.

In advanced form of aura mastering, you could manipulate or tamper people's aura for healings... etc which can be very dangerous if things go wrong.

So I will advise you get an aura mentor for advanced aura mastering.

Thank you for reading, leave your comments

Babalawos

Lolzzz. I picked out MANIPULATE. In other words, you invade other people's spiritual spaces and manipulate them, which is very dangerous to them right?

dalaman:
That's his opinion and anybody with an iota of sense will regard it as such. You aren't someone that I consider to be with much sense so I won't expect you to do what sensible people do.

Dalaman and cussing. Men are not known by how mouthy they are, great men are known by how intelligent they are and how well they remain under control in times of heat.

You act like an ill brought up girl.

Stop the unnecessary cussing it makes you appear small. Face the discourse and not attacking personalities.

jimmyjenseng:
Not thanks. Answer the question.

Your question was, 'what is the correlation between ISOC and God.

ISOC= INTENTIONAL STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS.

This is about Consciousness and how one can be intentionally in control of that state.

Now, to be conscious means to be aware of your environment, to be able to function and interact with that environment. And intentionality is how you operate to bring actions or activities in your environment under your immediate control. It is power to administrate, dominate and control.

It is the state of being able to mentally represent yourself at any point in time.

You asked me how ISOC relates to God. Here is how.

It is the God-likeness (consciousness) in us that enables us be in a state which we can take control of our minds and make rational and intentional decisions.

According to the book of Life, the Holy Bible, After YHWH created Man, he (Adam) was in the realm of the spirit, in God's image, but the purpose of creating Adam was for him to operate and function not in the realm of the spirit, but the Physical, hence, there was for him to have a body which will enable him be a material entity, hence, the clay.

The Book of Life accounts that, when YHWH took the clay and moulded it, it was lying lifeless on the ground until God took the spirit which had created and put in the clay, they clay received Life, jacked up and became a living soul.

Now, the clay has become a living soul, breathing and and in motion, but the living soul needed to interact and function in his new environment. But how could he archive that without consciousness?

This is when the likeness of YHWH came to play in the life of Adam.

The Likeness of God is the consciousness of God. Without Consciousness, we won't be able to interact and function in our environment. We won't be able to take rational decisions. And, taking rational decisions is done intentionally.


YHWH put intentional state of consciousness in man to enable him be god.

dalaman:
They have been alleged by billions of people to be the creators of the universe. Jesus is also alleged by billions too to be the creator of the universe.

I didn't ask you what other people believe. Do YOU believe they are?

Billyonaire:
I think you confuse the word 'cult' with 'occult'. These are dissimilar in meaning.

Just tell me the source of the power behind the Occult.

Semantics is what you want to play here.

dalaman:
How did you know that Jesus (God) created the universe of you have never had an encounter with him personally? How did you know that Jesus created the universe and not Allah or Brahma?

How do you even know that Jesus Isreal and alive if you've never had any personal encounter with him that made you establish his existence as a real entity?

Let's established a premise before we begin this discussion.
Do you believe in Brahma or Allah as Creators? Your answer will set us in the right direction.

dalaman:
Am asking you pertinent questions. You claim to know Jesus don't you? It will suprise you but both my paternal and maternal grandfathers are still alive. One is 89 and the other is 91.

Those questions may sound pertinent to you, but they are childish, very stupid to me.

If you want to ask pertinent questions, ask questions like, 'How do you Know God created the Universe?', not questions like, 'Have you ever seen Jesus?'. This is so stupid.

You atheists want to start a fight over nothing.



Hmmmm.

dalaman:
I never take you seriously because you are a dishonest fool. Thomas Nagel represents all atheist abi?

Didn't William Craig state that even if he enters a time machine and goes back in time to discover that Jesus never really resurrected from the dead that he'll still remain a christian. Have you seen any body use him as the standard to measure all christains?

Take your shameless and idiotic dishonest ways and move along .

What is the reason for this unnecessary insult nah? We should just have a discussion. Must we fight? He didn't even mention you for trigger this kind of heat from you. Na wao.

coolestchris:
occultism is not Satanism, occult is for wise ones

Na so? Abeg knack me tori.


So the power which drives an occult man is not from satan?

hopefulLandlord:
1st paragraph, Navel said what you want all atheists to be saying so that sounds like "sincerity" to you

He is right or not?

Going by my own interaction with you, i sense this is also your position. Why? Here is why. You don't know how the Universe came to be, but it must not be God who created it.
What does that mean? You don't know, but don't want it to be God(YHWH).

hopefulLandlord:
2nd Nope

3rd, I agree that's his opinion but I don't agree with his opinion just like there are many opinions of Hitchens, Dawkins, Krauss, Sam Harris etc I disagree with; that's his own atheism and not mine

No one mentioned these other men. Nagel threw out his views and i called him honest, you jumped on me. What shd i have said?

Hope, Atheists just hope there's no God, sorry there is.

dalaman:
What do you know about Jesus? Do you know where he is at the moment? Do you know what he looks like? Do you know what his voice sounds like? Can you recognize him of you see him? How did you get to know him?

How old are you pls? No offence. I just want to know i'm not having a conversation with a child.

These questions are too childish.

May be i should reverse and and ask you the same question about your late grand father.

dalaman:
I said I believed the things you presently believe in.

Why did you 'believed' them, and what changed?

haywire07:
OP in reality, u are most likely to be a dry person.

Your own captions don't even match the memes .

You are the dry one. He has a great sense of humour.

hopefulLandlord:
Honesty= someone saying what I want them to say

Logic according to Emmanystone

Lolzzz. I'm not sure Thomas Nagel said what he said because he believed Christians wanted him to say those things.

How you jumped over Thomas Nagel to me is amazing.

Do you agree with him or not?

Misleading topic and yet you are enlightened.




And, why do human beings believe when they go deep into satanism they are enlightened?

DoctorAlien:
So true.

Atheist philosopher Thomas Nagel is also revealingly honest:

“I want atheism to be true and am made uneasy by the fact that some of the most intelligent and well-informed people I know are religious believers. It isn’t just that I don’t believe in God and, naturally, hope that I’m right in my belief. It’s that I hope there is no God! I don’t want there to be a God; I don’t want the universe to be like that. My guess is that this cosmic authority problem is not a rare condition and that it is responsible for much of the scientism and reductionism of our time”.

No Nigerian atheist can be this honest. This man is still an atheist, but honest to air out his world view.

They'd wish with everything in them that there's no God, but alas, there is.