Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 8:53pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
jonbellion: he said he's not religious Dude if you don't understand what I mean then shut up Do me a favour and stop mentioning me You do yaself good by shutting up, because you know not what it means to be a Christian. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 8:52pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Omudia11
"No True Scotsman fallacy" So am now Omudia11? Before i was Damogul. Now am Omudia? Na wa for u. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 8:47pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
LaClicKLaBenDin:

Na so na... sometimes I dey even forget wetin science be, I go dey think say na human being...  |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by Emmanystone: 8:43pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
benzics: Lol.. are you seriously quoting the Bible (written by a con artist) to me? By the way watchman is a pentecostal church.
When I was a Christian, trust me, you didn't "know christ" more than I did, I preached, ate and slept with prayer.. It got to a point where everyone was calling me pastor /rev fr. I "believed" I spoke with God, there was this Time my aunt was being operated on.. I locked the doors, I prayed till an extent I was drowning in my own sweat and tears, unknowingly for me that they were banging the door for me to open, "when I came back from the spirit", I quickly heard loud knocks on the door when I opened, my sister was like "I've been knocking for up to an hour now".. Anyway, fast forward, my aunt had a successful operation and I believed it was "God" who answered my prayers..
Fast forward.. I started getting into the Bible more and more, I started seeing life from a reasonable perspective, I then discovered that religion was a scam! God in fact doesn't exist, even if he does, he is not the monster portrayed in the Bible.. . Gbam, I told everyone I didn't believe in God..
My mum was heartbroken, she was shocked, all my sis were like "if there is no God, where do you get money from" (I fucking work for money!).. All my relatives didn't believe it..
My course mates were like, "I know you are just joking, because you can't mean it".. not knowing I mean everything I say!
The Bible is there, read it with sense!! ! And you will understand! Very funny you. I know what watchman is. I was a Catholic, and i know where Watchman came from and how they still hold catholic doctrines to a large extent. When you were in church you mean? Bros you were never a Christian. You believed you spoke to God? Did he speak back to you? Has God ever spoken to you? Okay lets start from here. Answer me this questions. 1 When did you die to SIN? (To live in Christ you have to first die and then be born again). Let me explain for clarity. We all were born sinners. We dont commit sin becos we want to, we sin because we were born with the nature of Sin. We just flow with with the nature, until there's a encounter. Encounter brings revelation, revelation brings conviction of our sins. Conviction brings about conversion. At this point is when a man sees his sinfulness, his wretchedness, his helplessness without Christ. This is the point that a man discovers what spiritual death means and the implication of that. It is at this point that a soul cries out for help to Jesus who is the only one with a solution. Its at this point that a man sees the danger of sin and decides to make a U turn, repent and forsake Sin. Its at this point that a man start the race. So, again i ask you. Wen did you die? What encounter did you have that brought you to this point? 2. You talked about Talking to God. How did you do that? Listen, Christ decides how he communicates to us. We do not choose the manner in which we hear God. in which way did Christ talked to you in your christian adventure? What is Rhema how did you receive your rhema from God? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 8:14pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
Seun: Correction: I didn't say it was "not spiritual". I said it was not supernatural. It was as spiritual as any actual religious experience. What  ??. it's Spiritual but not supernatural? What  ? So, the supernatural operates differently from the Spiritual. This is new. Pls Seun teach me something new. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 7:38pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 7:37pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
Seun: When I gave my life to Christ at Foursquare Gospel Church, I was in JSS 1. After we said the sinner's prayer, our Sunday School teacher tried to get us baptised in the Holy Spirit. I was waiting for the Holy Spirit to descend on me and make me speak in tongues, but I didn't feel anything. Most of the girls started speaking in tongues, but I got nothing. I earnestly and sincerely ask God for it, but nothing happened.
When I got to Ife and started attending ECU, the fellowship my parents attended, we had to take a membership class and my teacher and his best friend also tried to get me baptised in the Holy Spirit to no avail. I remember them taking me to the sports center and praying with me and urging me to speak. I patiently waited for the Holy Spirit to descend on me but nothing happened. Then they had to explain that speaking in tongues is by faith. God supplies the word, and we speak them out, they said. To me it sounded as if they were encouraging me to fake it, and suggesting that everyone fakes it, but I just couldn't accept that. I wanted to experience it genuinely, like the apostles did in the bible.
So one day, as I was praying very intensely in my room, I felt a subtle urge to start saying some nonsense words that came to my mind, and I did. And once I started, I found that new words came to my mind and I could continue speaking them. That's how I started speaking in tongues. In my fellowship, it was common for the pastors to ask everyone to start speaking in tongues during worship; now I could join in! But it was also a bit of a disappointment because the experience was emotional, not supernatural. The Holy Spirit didn't take over my body.
When I was re-watching Sinach's video to transcribe her tongues, I actually felt the urge to speak in tongues again. I think listening to the beautiful way she sang the tongues triggered something in me. I bet I can still speak in tongues today if I choose to succumb to the feeling. What is the difference between an emotional experience and a spiritual experience pls? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 7:30pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
jonbellion: Actually when I was a christian I never had any interest in the nonsense Maybe because most people I knew didn't seem to do it genuinely They usually had a ringtone or something on their phone and they always related the same gibberish in every prayer I don't think this is how angels converse Stop lying to yourself. You were never a Christian. A tare that's what you were. Now that fruit time has come, its showing. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 7:28pm On Nov 29, 2016*. Modified: 9:58pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
jonbellion: what kind of no true Scotsman fallacy is this  Anybody that left Christianity was never a christian?? Well I do know I've given my life to Christ and was in the choir when I was still a christian Ummm I beg your pardon@thie second sentence Yes. No one will have a relationship with Christ and leaves. You won't. You can't. Guy. You never were in Christ. You were in Church. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 7:24pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
Omudia11: You were a church goer, not a christian! Now give us scientific proof of hypnotism through air blowing. Thats good. Very good. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 7:24pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
jonbellion: so you don't actively go to church See? You think going to church made you a Christian right? Hahahahahahahahaha. You make me laf. Satan goes to church, is he a Christian? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 7:22pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
jonbellion: that's the point I'm not busy right now Until January And yes I have completely left I just talk about religion cuz it plays an important part in our society and unbelievers like myself don't have a voice in it I mean would you people even vote for an unbeliever as your leader No you would not You people sef You just want people like atheists and unbelievers to shut up while you get to talk about your beliefs freely  I wouldn't care if it has not eaten so deeply in your society. If there were followers of Santa Claus imposing thier beliefs and letting it influence our society then yes i would talk about Santa claus  I stumbled on an article about the breakdown and the hospitalization of Kanye West. Its was stated that he said he was under spiritual attack. When i read the comments, i was shocked to find Americans responding like Nigerian Christians. Hundreds of comments, almost all Christians, saying what NL christians would say. Christianity is not a Nigerian thing, so get over yourself. There are more Christians in down town America than they are in Nigeria. Hollywood makes it seem like they are more unbelievers lie. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 7:13pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
jonbellion:
 What are you saying I just put it in a way you guys would understand since that's your belief I was a christian once you know  No, you weren't, you were a church goer. There's a difference. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 7:09pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
Omudia11: Sister  Oh dear. My bad. Welcome sis. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 7:04pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
jizzus: Firstly they fined tuned me with verses from the Bible........then they set the atmosphere with some nice songs(yes those gospel songs are nice)then everyone else started speaking it........motivation talks of "its in Ur belly just speak it out" more melodious music........adrenaline rush and the the fact that everyone else was saying something I muttered some words and voila you've been filled with the holy ghost
In conclusion : How to get filled with the holy ghost 1. Tell them stories of others who have received the holy spirit.
2. Fill the atmosphere with sonorous and melodious tunes(very necessary )
3. Give them the "its in your belly" push
jizzus Am sorry to say that you were not Baptized by the Holy Spirit, it was all your senses. Adrenaline happens in your senses not in your spirit. I heard a voice which said to me "Then open your mouth and speak". This happened at home. I was alone, and prayed a simple prayer asking him to give me utterance, and he spoke to me, and said, "Then open your mouth and speak", wen i did, i heard my voice, it wasn't me, my voice was speaking a language that sounded Arabic, (and you shd know this, i hate Arabic language, it sounds too aggressive to me) but that's how my tongues sounds till today. I have tried changing them, i have not succeeded. I didn't speak in tongues for more 13 years after being born again, the night it came, it came so simply. No rush, no sensation. Nothing. Just a voice " Then open your mouth and speak. And this is a night i will never forget, for i spoke in tongues for two good hours. I could restrain myself. I couldn't stop. I tried to say Amen to conclude for where?, the Amen was in Tongues. I had to ask the Holy Spirit to let me stop so that i could sleep. Then it stopped. From that day, it runs freely. Meanwhile, several times in Church meetings, i had tried to fake it, i go, mamamamamashakatata teraretamamama. Those are not tongues. Tongues sounds like foreign languages to your listeners. And everyone has their tongues, we don't speak the same tongues. I hate Arabic language, i have tried mimicking other brethren's tongues, it hasn't worked. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 6:39pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
jonbellion: . Your ministry is to be cancelling my words? lol |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 6:38pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
Omudia11: Wow! I didn't even know this. Thanks for the enlightenment. Welcomed brother. |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by Emmanystone: 6:36pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
benzics: I was an alter server in the catholic church, I was a Bible teacher in watchman.. I don't think you know religion more than I do, you won't know how senseless you are until you break free from religion, go and read your Bible, page to page, read it with sense, and you yourself will see how brainwashed you've been I have this to say to you... And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. John:5:38 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John:5:39 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. John:5:40 Well Alter Boy and Bible Teacher (whatever that means), I have this to ask you, DID YOU HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST? Preaching the gospel yet living in sin, speaking in (fake) tongues yet living in sin does not qualify you as a Christians sir. If you did not know Jesus personally, you were working for yourself. You were a religious person not a Christian. Christianity is a relationship, if you don't have it, you cant talk about it. Day by day am seeing the grand plan of Catholicism. turn people over to satan. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 6:22pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
jizzus: Firstly they fined tuned me with verses from the Bible........then they set the atmosphere with some nice songs(yes those gospel songs are nice)then everyone else started speaking it........motivation talks of "its in Ur belly just speak it out" more melodious music........adrenaline rush and the the fact that everyone else was saying something I muttered some words and voila you've been filled with the holy ghost
In conclusion : How to get filled with the holy ghost 1. Tell them stories of others who have received the holy spirit.
2. Fill the atmosphere with sonorous and melodious tunes(very necessary )
3. Give them the "its in your belly" push
jizzus |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 3:11pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by Emmanystone: 2:14pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
benzics: Welcome back to reality sweetheart... For you have broken the chains of religion.. don't let anyone tell you otherwise, religion is for unreasonable set of people, people who don't think.. But finally you are back dear.. Enjoy your life  Am sure you don't even know what religion is. You just hear people say it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by Emmanystone: 2:13pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
alBHAGDADI: This one doesn't believe God exists, yet he troubles himself about a non-existing God.
use your MB to download porn  Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Thank you for that. |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by Emmanystone: 2:10pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
Tiffbuxas: I don't get you.... this guy just shifted from Christianity..... so wish one are u praising his twisted insight which I believe is an inspired error Its not strange. Tares are to act as wheat until the time of bearing fruits. It is in fruit bearing that we know. His fruit is showing. Believe me most of what he wrote up there are lies. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 2:05pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
foladara777: Oh really??... I am the one making assumptions about hypnosis but your assertion about it being the holy spirit of based on logic and evidence?? And I didn't tag it hypnosis, I said it could have been. How is the hypnosis theory less credible than the holy spirit theory I watch hypnotism, but i have never seen anyone being hypnotized by being blown air and the persons falls down and starts babbling. Have you? Show a video please. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 2:02pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
jizzus: You need to check into a psychiatric hospital............. there are no such things as demons,the faster you understand this the more receptive you'll be to logical reasoning Again, you didn't say that. Do you remember Urheme? He was an Atheist here, just like you. He also said they were no demons. Ask him now will you? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 2:00pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 1:58pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
foladara777: Uhmmm... Come again but this time in English The human you didn't say that. Humans with human spirits dont blaspheme God, but the demons do, and the one in you is happy he is given room to blaspheme. So jumps to it. You are ignorant of this because you are a captive. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 12:38pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
jizzus: Yes I do,I basically was basking in the euphoria of the "holy spirit" How did it happen? I mean before you started speaking or basking. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 12:35pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
foladara777: - u don't see anything. Don't assume. I speak in tongues too, I have literally fallen under the 'anointing' too but that's not enough proof that the holy spirit is responsible... I don't believe that an all powerful God requires people to fall and wound themselves or sometimes expose their underwear for an almighty being to impart them Yeah? You have spoken in tongues which is an evidence of Baptism by fire? (Holy Ghost). Lets trade experiences. How was your first experience? Mine was remarkable. But let's hear yours first. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 12:31pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 12:30pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
Rilwayne001:
 Hmmm. See Muslims in a speaking in Tongues thread. What do you know about speaking in Tongues? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Emmanystone: 12:16pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
foladara777: What about the little part about atrocities committed by your master?? Hear the demon speaking out there? |