₦airaland Forum

jimmyjenseng:
Stop making me laugh bruv... He ran from his own argument. What else do you expect I did?

hopefulLandlord:
so the fact that scientists haven't been able to figure out or do something is a proof of god? talk about god of the gaps

hopefulLandlord:
our post does not follow at all!

you go spiritual unnecessarily when all we are talking about is simple logic, you have a habit of flunking logic in a woeful manner

hopefulLandlord:
all the sun rising and moon coming out didn't convince francis Collins and WLC at all even though it convinced you, I'm almost certain a frozen waterfall won't convince you, neither would it convince WLC

hopefulLandlord:
first off, we are all different, we as humans don't think the same way so what convinces you of Yahweh's existence "Sun coming out everyday and moon coming out at night" may not convince someone else of Yahweh's existence

hopefulLandlord:
we could both listen to a sales pitch, I buy into it and you don't or vice versa; while the sales pitch convince one of us it wasn't enough to convince the other which boils down to individual differences

hopefulLandlord:
if the sun rising and moon coming out convinces you, then Yahweh knew (with his/its omnipotence) that you'll be convinced by that

hopefulLandlord:
Francis Collins, a staunch atheist was walking in the bush when he came across a frozen waterfall and he became convinced of Yahweh's existence and Christianity being true, he said he saw the frozen waterfall have three prongs and that convinced him that "Christian Trinity" is true

William Lane Craig was a unhappy student and saw some happy students, asked them how they manage to stay happy and they told him Jesus is the secret, that was enough to convince him of Christianity being true

hopefulLandlord:
meanwhile I'm pretty much different from you, WLC and Francis Collins in that the sun rising and moon coming out didn't convince me, a frozen waterfall sounds very idiotic to me, if I see a frozen waterfall what I'll think about are the animal lives that are in it and died; seeing people happy when I'm sad is arguably the most stupid of all cuz they could be on drugs or are perhaps just rich or chose to be happy about the same things that I'm sad about

hopefulLandlord:
This is where your posts veered badly off course

hopefulLandlord:
No! Satan (if it exists and Christianity is true) KNOWS that Yahweh exists, Yahweh knows that Satan is already convinced of his existence, we aren't talking about some extra power show here, even an unbeliever may not know what would convince him/her but an omniscient being definitely knows,

hopefulLandlord:
an unbeliever may say "I want an amputee healing" "I want a beheaded person to come back to life"

hopefulLandlord:
but even such a miracle (if it happens) may still not convince him/her, why? cuz the unbeliever doesn't know himself enough

jimmyjenseng:
Forgive me and please permit me to ask: is this a special kind of stupid? Why must god always be the beginning and end of the circle? You're just making circular reasoning.

dalaman:
What are the things that Yahweh has put to convince anybody of his existence?



Because a cirding to the tale that is what Yahweh wants. Is it not the bible that says that there is rejoicing in heaven when a sinner is saved?

KingEbukasBlog:
I still don't know why anyone would take the guy seriously. Anyway, you are an atheist so his shallowness will appeal to you .





This is one reason why I don't discuss topics like this with a Nigerian atheist. He is only good at dismissing arguments and making irrational rants and that's all . If I should go through the stress of explaining this thing and you don't give me a reasonable response, God will punish you for making me waste my time. And I'm not playing.

dalaman:
You guys keep making bogus and empty assertions always. I don't have time for your endless sophism. All I do is just cut the chase and show you how empty your assertions are. How did we jump from mental states pointing to the existence of an ultimate mind? Where is the foundation for this empty assertion.

Our mental state is evidence for our mental state. God's mental state can be demonstrated through which mechanism?

jimmyjenseng:
Nice evasion tactics. Adiós.

dalaman:
I know what the statement means. You just made the statement without foundation? What made you to make the statement? What is the relationship btw intentional states of consciousness and the existence of God? How have you been able to establish that intentional states of consciousness can NOT exist without God?

You made an empty assertion without any foundation and you want any body to take you seriously.

hopefulLandlord:
Christians say their god is omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent and omnibelevolent

if these qualities are true then we'd all know of this god's existence, here's why:

an omnipresent god is with me right now

an omniscient god knows what would convince me of his existence

an omnipotent god can do that thing that'll convince me

an omnibelevolent god would want to convince me of his existence


the fact that such an entity exists but requires humans to indoctrinate other humans about it points to the fact that such an entity does not exist!

Christians make the mistake of challenging the second premise by stating I'm "asking Yahweh to bend down to my wish" this is an absolute strawman as the second premise doesn't state anything specific about what I want Yahweh to do in order for me to believe he exists but Yahweh should know what would convince me better than even me

Francis Collins, a staunch atheist, became a Christian after witnessing a beheaded man come back to life after the corpse was prayed for by a MoG, his conversion to Christianity was finally sealed when he witnessed an amputee healing; he's always said those would convince him and Yahweh did it, "Yahweh bent to Francis Collins wish"

The above paragraph from the ninth (9th) word is a fabrication the below was actually Francis Collins conversion story

He was walking in the bush when he came across a frozen waterfall and he became convinced of Yahweh's existence and Christianity being true, he said he saw the frozen waterfall have three prongs and that convinced him that "Christian Trinity" is true

If Yahweh exists and Christianity is true, then Yahweh with his omniscience knew a frozen waterfall with three prongs is what would convince Francis Collins and he used his omnipotence to make it happen

if a Christian asked Francis Collins while he was a staunch atheist "What can happen that would convince you of Yahweh's existence and Christianity being true?"
I'll wager Collins would say "An amputee healing, a mountain moving" or something in that line; I'm 100% certain he won't say "a frozen waterfall split in 3 places"

in summary, the fact that a god like that exists and all those who believe in it do so out of "faith" shows it doesn't exist

correctguy101:
I know he's dead brodaly, lols

Being dead doesn't stop him from doing anything, if you know what I mean

correctguy101:
Dumb move....

People really don't know what true satanism is all about.

Anton Lavey doesn't fit until he proves himself worthy...

enilove:
Psalm 109:17-19 KJV
As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him.
[18] As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones.
[19] Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually.

shittufarukumar:
C guy join xtians in whole nigeria only kD muslim don out number dem masjids are not contain the muslims
at end is either u guys will leave nigeria or nigeria will be divided two or u will just live in nigeria as an extint entity

frosbel2:
Which Christ , the roman one or the real one ? -

iamgenius:
Read history, you no gree. How you go know?

shadeyinka:
Thank you so much for the post. It clearly said it all


Cc: Analice107 , Emmanystone, alBHAGDADI, Enilove, Plainbibletruth, Emmanystone,
I didn't write this oh. Na one Muslim jihadist oh.

He actually gave evidence that Mohammed was motivated by LUST. Check for yourself

Rashduct4luv:
I want everyone to read this post.

The sign of an hypocrite according to the Bible is as Brada Matthew the tax collector says:

You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

They called our Prophet Paedophile according to today's standards which we do not accept in Islam.

They said he killed those who betrayed the contract he had between them. After which he now slept with the war captive.


I told them in the simplest terms that Islam permits such marriage if the father of the girl agrees to it. They refused to agree.

The Prophet killing those people was justified according to the situation as at then (as explained previously). They refused to agree.


Now let us open the Bible and see what the three in one gods commanded the People to do

1 Samuel 15:3-4 New International Version (NIV)

3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them ; put to death men and women , children and infants , cattle and sheep , camels and donkeys .’” Even if alBHAGDADI, Enilove, Plainbibletruth, Emmanystone, Shadeyinka and others were around then Saul would have killed you too with them.


Now UmarIbnShittu see this one o, three in one Gods commanded this one too in Numbers 31:17-18 New International Version (NIV)

17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man (Virgin ).


If Jesus commanded them to kill everybody and leave virgin young girls for themselves, Our Prophet is far above the Bible Jesus!

I also think Jesus of the Bible was explosive in the old testament, inspiring wars, saving young virgin female war captives for sex and killing people like mad but when he came in the New testament he became cold and repented. He now preached turn your left cheek if someone slaps your right or whatever.

Apparently this Hebrew 13:8 below was a lie

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

[color=#000000]Make i go face my work! This Christians are hypocrites![/color]

delishpot:
Ohhhh, then that is ours my hand o. That is the work of a native doctor

frosbel2:
The sheep that cannot think for themselves but are tossed about with every wind of doctrine !

Tahra:
No,I am not like you.

shadeyinka:
..age of 'accounterbility': not a number but when a person can fully discern what is wrong from right and choose his actions.

Tahra:
None.

UmarIbnShittu:
didn't u said unarmed jews from the hadith u posted u just shot urself in the leg

the lady u said he raped didn't even sleep in his room
"laughing "or perhaps he raped her using Wi-Fi "
so FYI u r a lyon

enilove:
@Rashduct4luv, you said you are tired of the Bible stories etc .
If you are not an hypocrite, you should have developed stroke or hypertension because of the stories of Quran,hadiths and life style of Muhammed.

If God had killed Lot , your type or ,even you , will complain. Lot chose to live in a cave not because God ordered him to. He was afraid of the nearby cities and also decided not to go back to Abraham and be respectful to him so as to live peacefully with him . God did not ask the daughters to get their father drunk. It was part of the character polution they inherited or copied when living in Sodom that got hold of them.

Ezra account. Let read in context :

Nehemiah 8:4-8 KJV
And Ezra the scribe stood upon a pulpit of wood, which they had made for the purpose; and beside him stood Mattithiah, and Shema, and Anaiah, and Urijah, and Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, on his right hand; and on his left hand, Pedaiah, and Mishael, and Malchiah, and Hashum, and Hashbadana, Zechariah, and Meshullam. [5] And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people and when he opened it, all the people stood up: [6] And Ezra blessed the Lord , the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the Lord with their faces to the ground. [7] Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place. [8] So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.

Ezra stood up to read the books of the Lord to the Israelites by by climbing the pulpit which was made for THAT PURPOSE and beside him were 6 elders to the right and 7 elders to the left. When he stood up to read the books , he started by praising the Lord and the people stood up bow their heads ( not knees ) with their faces towards the ground .....

The above did not say they prayed like the muslim. They were standing and their faces were to the ground. For the muslims it is their heads that hits the groung, and in kneeling position not when standing.

Also they were not about to pray but to listen to the words of God that Ezra was going to read. They did not do ablution neither were they holding anything in their hands for counting.

The Idol worshippers in Nigeria do bow their knees and hit their heads on the ground . Are they muslims too.
Most Idol worshippers do bow down with their heads on the ground while facing their gods or idols . They are the same with Muslims.

Don't look for approval of Islam in the Bible , you can't get it there . The only and best places are in the hadiths and Quran. There , you will discover that the pre Islam arabians pagans used to worshipped god allah and they used to pray towards mecca 7 times a day; making pilgmage to mecca; running around the temple of the moon god allah; kissing the black stone ; killing animals in sacrifice to the moon god; they used to throw stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; they used to Tawaf etc.
These were incorporated into Islam and the modern day muslims practice these very rituals.
You muslims have been innocently tricked to worship the same false god that the pre Islamic pagan worshippers used to worshipped.

modash:
The Injil is not the New Testament. The NT of today is not the gospel of Jesus but it's the gospel of mark, matthew, John and luke

joshuannajimanu:
pls help me ask him o. why shud i be rude when am trying to pass a message across. Cc: seun

greatnaija01:
its either you are deluded or you are heretic WHERE ARE THE SCRIPTURES THAT SUPPORT THESE stuff.... especially the 0-16 years thrash u vomited....

its sad... you really do not know your bible.

Tahra:
Name them.