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oyeb15:
Christianity is a serious business that is registered under d guise of Charity with CAC but turn out to be a revenue generating Enterprise for d sole benefit of d overlords known as General Oversears.

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Oya, go start your own make we see. If you think it's that simple as ABC.

favor914:
Old Testament, the Jews were been punished for 70 years for their disobedience to Jah, he put Nebuchadnezzar there for that purpose. Jesus Christ said respect authority, if you don’t have respect for your earthly Government, how can you have respect for the Government in Heaven?

It's obvious you like twisting scriptures to suit you. Did they not respect the government of Babylon? But resisted the government and king when it came to matters affecting the Almighty God. Did God not interven? Was those evil policies not changed to the one that glorified God? At the end, was Babylon not destroyed from the face of the earth BY God's judgement? Hanan was also hanged by the intervention of God as result of plotting evil policies against his people that also respected the government of the day. Old testament but has God changed? Are those scriptures not examples for our learning of the ways of God? Government should go ahead and try it. We are watching to see the end of this CAMA.

favor914:
The same scripture you are quoting says obey your Government, God in Heaven has put them there.

That same God intervened on behalf of Shadrach, meshack and Abednego including Daniel when the government imposed Draconian and anti God policies in the country.

God will always fight for His people when the Government is impose anti God policies.
Just watch and see.

favor914:
Nonsense talk, does it revert the law? Empty Barrels will always make the loudest noise.

One of them ID....ts spotted.
Nonsense talk because truth was revealed. It's very obvious that you are an Enemy of progress. You and your inept government can plot all the evil against the church but always know that it can never stand or work. The Church is marching on.

Well said sir. Balanced and unbiased truth. But see how IDiots and church haters will avoid this thread.

desiredhome:
See how they've confused/brainwashed you with vain/materialism.......
I no blame you sha......
I wonder what you mean by you are being blessed....how do you measure blessings?.....
With the high poverty rate in Nigeria.......
Scammers will always defend themselves
With the high rate of corruption in your churches even kidnappers will claim been bless and will climb that your evil alter to give testimony to deceive you zombies ...... God of Mammon

To you the poor members money is small but you still collect from the thousands poor..... among you to make your billions..... thieves

The people are not complaining yet you keep insulting the government of hardship/frustrations....keep deceiving yourself........ criminals
Awon suffering and smiling

The CAMA law is here already.....if you are genuine you won't the afraid/complain of it.......

If you don't want it carry yourself out of Nigeria, go and form your own country.... shikina

Criminals using God's name to defruad guilible members......

Guy having gone thru your write up it's very obvious to me that you are very confused, angry and highly biased without a single proof. I guess you have fallen prey to one those fake pastors of yours or you just choose to be like this because of your condition.
I said I am blessed by applying biblical principles and you are asking me how and what does that mean especially in high poverty in Nigeria. Can you imagine? So because Nigeria is experiencing hardship then everyone should be poor. Pls change your thinking.
That I am blessed then you claim that I have also given myself to materialism and to the God of mammon. I have been brainwashed and suffering and smiling . Haba. Guy are you okay?
So you know me more than I know myself and condition.
So I should lie to please you and your opinion. I am blessed in every area of my life and those around me even in the midst of this troubled times. It's obvious you don't know what it means to be blessed thats how I know your condition.
I know I am wasting my time replying you but pls when ever you less angry go tru your write up again and see how incoherent you sound.
Everything to you is vain, scam, thieves, poverty, deception and hardship. Go and change your mentality and your condition will improve. Good luck.

desiredhome:
That there are criminal pastors doesn't mean there are no genuine pastors, unfortunately the fake/false pastors have overtaken.......
The fake pastors/Pastorprenours know themselves.......

The question here is why collecting money from the members to build those schools?....you collect from the poor in the church yet they are not qualified because they are poor, I say it again you are more than evil...... world class ko......

You and your Pastorprenours are not above the authority of the government, if you think otherwise you have to go get your own country else where.....shikina.

So would you have preferred that the church misuse monies received by them because it was free will giving just like The taxes the government collect from the citizens over the years have all been Embezelled into private purses of your people in government abi . You are here angry that the church have used theirs to good use. I don't get your mentality.
Go to those institutions and see hundreds of thousands of your so called poor church members empowered with good jobs and thousands of them are on scholarships in those institutions. that's strategic planning. Go and find out but of course you will not because of your baised reasoning.
Free will giving is not a church contribution.Get that into your head but I know you will not because you don't see with spiritual understanding which obviously you don't have. Because when you give and work ,you will receive back in multiple folds that the law of nature. That is biblical and people practice it because it works so what's your wahala.
Are your so called poor church members complaining to you? Multitudes of your so called poor church members are no more poor today , I know because I used to be one and so you are angry because it's working.
How much even can a poor man give that will build world class institutions across the country?
It will take centuries for it to be completed. I know you will say the poor pay in every service but I will tell you that it's the most difficult thing to give when you don't have enough to eat.
But let me bust your bubbles. They people that give most cheerfully and continue to do so are those that have been blessed by the ministry of these pastors and will continue to do so because it's working for them. You can get all angry you want but that's the secret of life which Jesus Christ practiced and encouraged eg widows mite. Jesus would have resisted the widow from giving but He did not and praised her for it because He knows that it's her way out of penury. I doubt if you have read it in the Bible.
I know you are not a Christian or believer but I need to clarify your ignorance a little bit so that you stop crying more than the bereaved.
You can quote me now, If truly The Church is not owned by Jesus Christ ,let the evil cabal that inserted that clause in CAMA try it and see.
Shikena.

desiredhome:
The fact and proof you requested are right before you, do not reason with sentiments......

How many members of those best church schools can afford their fees?..........
when they wanted to build these schools they task the members to contribute towards it by sharing papers for you to plege/contribute and for workers in the church it's compulsory to donate towards it......these workers are both poor and rich in the church...... today the schools/estimates etc are built, then the poor in the church cannot afford it... that is OBT.... using God to thieves....
some of the Pastorprenours use their account/private jets to Luanda politicians money...they are encouraging corruption and looting the treasury.....etc

You can't give scholarship to one person out of one million and claim you are doing scholarship...(audio), the money the GOs/Pastorprenours claim ownership (wealthiest pastor) are people's (members) money.......that is what makes them thieves...

Pay offerings (4-5 services per Sunday)
Pay prophet offering
Pay unending building offering
Pay anoiting oil offerings
Pay Shiloh sercrifice offerings
Pay tithe (10% of you monthly/business income)
Pay pastors to come to preach to your church
Pay #1000 according to the your number of year
Pay for special weekly program s
Pay for department/unit dues
Pay pay pay pay for this and that.... unending

For a poor and developing Country like Nigeria....
You are very wicked and heartless like the Devil

Keep waiting for impactation while many are dying by the day.........

Criminals...... Wolf in sheep clothing..... enslaving their guilible members

Dude, stop generalising everything. The fact that there are fake pastors does not make all pastors fake but it is proof that there are geninue ones. Most of the things you wrote here are in error and from a stand of lack of understanding in these matters.
If you think the best and quality education offered by these churches is expensive or for its members, go try ignorance or better still send your children to our free and public schools of today. These institutions were setup with a plan to be the best in the world and most members get that but an outsider won't but paint a picture of wickedness.
Nobody starts a world class business and gives out it's products free of charge to its shareholders. If you think so, go start with your business and share all your products free to family Nd friends for supporting you. Then let's see you grow. No wonder these schools are reputed best in the country and even west Africa.
But I know for a fact that millions have been spent on scholarships to deserving and eligible wards from those churches while employing hundreds of thousands of church members as workers in those institutions who are well paid and not owed salaries unlike our government agencies.
The church is the body of Christ and owned by Jesus Christ the builder of His Church. Every true pastor knows this and would never claim ownership of the church, hence, they are not signatories to the church accounts but have boards and committees that supervise those accounts .if Any pastor/founder claims that the church is his then you have spotted your fake pastor. So stop generalising.
l don't get your claim that all pastors corner money. The worst place/place to steal from is from God. You can steal from government or any other place and get a away with it for a season but not with God's money. You will pay for it instantly and many have died untimely as a result .
Giving your offerings or tithes in church is absolutely voluntary and not by force. Giving is living and it's absolutely between the giver and His God. Someone must receive the physical money buts its absolutely a spiritual transaction so why paint it as a terrible thing to do. Those things a biblical and not religion. So it's done from a spiritual understanding. If you don't give has anybody slapped you for not doing it but millions have been blessed by giving and you want to paint that as a bad thing to do.

The government don't have the right to unilaterally suspend the board of trustees of the church and appoint just anyone to head it without recourse to the court. Where is that done? Religion is spiritual and should be handled with understanding. That you have issues with some fake pastors and so think that CAMA is the way to go about changing those things is proof that you are highly sentimental.

desiredhome:
Go and ask the Pastorprenours what they are doing with the people's money......
The Pastorprenours are more wicked and corrupt than the polithiefians.....
The worst is stealing in God's name.......
Jesus is not a thief.....
If the pastor were doing right.....the politicians will behave and the country will be better for us

Laying baseless and non factual claims just to score a point. Show proof of them stealing. Most of the best universities, secondary and primary schools are built by the church. Including hospitals , orphanage foundations and raised up men across the world that have seen their lives and that of others transformed.
That you have not been impacted by them does not mean countless others have not be blessed by their ministries. That does not make them a thief.
A politician is good or bad by his or her choice Nd not tied to the church.
This law is dead on arrival. The government should face their responsibility of providing good roads, economy,power and good governance.

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