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Why is it always a Yoruba person, what would want to deceive people by trying to rubbish the achievement of someone, who's a million times better than him/her?


If not that, they would pull up fake information and data just to make a deceitful point, why always them?




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When the middle Beltane are ready to liberate themselves, they would champion the cause.

One thing is obvious, Igbos ( we ) are not ready and would never start a fight or die for others again.

What they now complaining about, was canvassed by Igbos a yerster years, what did they do?

They know the action and measures to take, when they're awake




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Dede1: I am not worried about the lapper who seemed to have too much to drink but Ndigbo who are bent on delusional drunkenness that blinded Igbo soldiers in Nigerian armed forces of 1960. If Lt Col Jam Pam, a Tiv, did not mind annihilating his people on the orders of Ahmadu Bello and Tafawa Balewa, why should Maj C Anuforo mind?

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Maj C. Anuforo did that because, from day one it's only Igbos that really practice ( or mistakenly ) believe in one Nigeria, which doesn't exist.



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kettykin: you are very wrong on this i never intended opening up old wounds but the truth will be told no matter whose ox is gored , a few links below will prove to you the kind of genocide Northern Minorites perpetrated against igbos
Igbos were killed by even Idomas and Tivs , it was that bad

http://www.biafragenocide.org/index.php?id=51


No Idoma or Tiv soldier or politician was killed in the Nzeogwu led coup

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Note: The said coup wasn't Igbo as earlier believed, but was framed to set Igbos up



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kettykin: If the Middle belt leaders like Gowon , TY Danjuma, Domkat Bali, Useni,Unongo Gana e.t.c are not complaining or even reacting whom would you expect to react in their place .
The middle belt leaders who often go about with a false sense of pride talking about how and why they struck and how they fought to stop Biafra from seceding and how they will use the last drop of their blood to stop the disintegration of Nigeria can not spare a drop of sweat to stop the killing of innocent people in their Domain , then whom do you want to step out stop it.

if you have a good knowledge of history you would realize that this same scenario played out before the civil war , there were Riots in the North Central and western region, Tiv riots and a state of Emergency in the South West with Yoruba leader Awolowo in prison but all that changed when Nzeogwu foolishly and naively led a coup , igbos became scape goats and were now on the receiving end with their people killed by even Tivs who some few months were rioting against Northern Domination and Awolowo who was even jailed by the North turned around and became an exterminator in chief of igbos .

The same predatory circumstances are playing out today and the Northern Minorities are at the receiving end.
Jerry Gana once boasted some few days ago that the North will still fight if need be for Nigeria's unity . what is stopping the North from fighting to liberate it self or the Middle beltans fighting to Liberate them selves whom are they waiting for to come and be their scape goats

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Folks back to topic



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clip: Please note, I am not in support of amnesty for Boko Haram. But the question is, what alternative do we have as a country to solve this problem?
Let us provide alternative solution.
Contributions needed.

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The only solution is , JUSTICE.


Or Sovereign National Conference





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Give more detail


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Experiment with enough friendly matches and pick best 11 as first 11,. During the friendly matches, ascertain how best the players combine ( formation ) to achieve the required result ( winning / scoring goals )


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pankere: justice! Is that too much to ask?

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Granting Boko Haram amnesty shouldn't be negotiable. No serious government on this our planet negotiate with terrorist.

This is the peak of stupidity in the evolution of human trend.

If GEJ has exhausted his ideas oh how to stop Boko Haram, lacks ball and capriciously refused to development his intelligence to take right decision, he should resign as Nigerian president.



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Tolexander: Some people can whine making devil known never to have done anything good before to feel remorse and repent!

Wonder why they see everyone as a betrayal.
Am not supporting the amnesty o. But when these people where planting bombs everywhere, you were complaining of igbo killing, now that he decided to pacify the terrorist to stop killing you, you are still complaining.
What do you want exactly?

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Arrest all the supporters and sponsors of Boko Haram, prosecute them and Boko Haram would die a natural death.

Preach from now to infinity, there's no justification to grant Boko Haram amnesty.

If GEJ thinks he doesn't possess what it takes to curb Boko Haram, the most honorable step for him to take is, resign as the president & C-C of Nigeria, simple.



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How many years was Henry Okah sentenced? Assuming he's really the mastermind of Oct bombing.

And simpletons are here trying to justify why GEJ should grant amnesty to Boko Haram, that have killed much more innocent people.

This would be GEJ greatest mistake on earth, while alive should he dance to northern script. I'll stop supporting him, likewise 99.9% of Igbos.




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Sincere 9gerian: If you'r asked to choose between amnesty leading to immediate peace and another 5 to 10yrs of fighting and killings, which will you choose? Answer pls!

If 99% of northerners, who are directly affected by the insurgency, are asking for amnesty, what would you have done if you were the president?

It is a well known FACT that any govt policy, programme or action that lacks support of the community is DEAD ON ARRIVAL. If the northerners are all asking for amnesty and the president insist on force, how will the force succeed? How will force succeed without cooperation of the community? Also remember that even majority of the solders that will face Boko haram are northerners.

Even if the amnesty does not eventually bring peace, atleast subsequent actions of the president will be JUSTIFIED and enjoy support of more northerners.

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The North insisting on amnesty, is more reason why any thinking president will want to know why.

In this case, does GEJ have a clue why the North is insisting on amnesty? He would play their script by granting amnesty to Boko Haram.

Before doing that, he should decide that he wouldn't run for second term, because he's completely on his own, if he falls for the Northern agenda that's bent on returning power to North by all means.

GEJ greatest supporters are Igbos, not people from SS, I hope you're aware. It's also only Igbos that exist practically in every state in Nigeria and the greatest victim of Boko Haram madness.

The implication of granting amnesty to Boko Haram, is beyond what you're thinking or anticipating now.


And lastly, by granting amnesty to Boko Haram, the blood of those killed by Boko Haram, will be on GEJ and all those that sponsored, supported and crusaded for Boko Haram.



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Sincere 9gerian: If you'r asked to choose between amnesty leading to immediate peace and another 5 to 10yrs of fighting and killings, which will you choose? Answer pls!

If 99% of northerners, who are directly affected by the insurgency, are asking for amnesty, what would you have done if you were the president?

It is a well known FACT that any govt policy, programme or action that lacks support of the community is DEAD ON ARRIVAL. If the northerners are all asking for amnesty and the president insist on force, how will the force succeed? How will force succeed without cooperation of the community? Also remember that even majority of the solders that will face Boko haram are northerners.

Even if the amnesty does not eventually bring peace, atleast subsequent actions of the president will be JUSTIFIED and enjoy support of more northerners.

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The North insisting on amnesty, is more reason why any thinking president will want to know why.

In this case, does GEJ have a clue why the North is insisting on amnesty? He would play their script by granting amnesty to Boko Haram.

Before doing that, he should decide that he wouldn't run for second term, because he's completely on his own, if he falls for the Northern agenda that's bent on returning power to North by all means.

GEJ greatest supporters are Igbos, not people from SS, I hope you're aware. It's also only Igbos that exist practically in every state in Nigeria and the greatest victim of Boko Haram madness.

The implication of granting amnesty to Boko Haram, is beyond what you're thinking or anticipating now.


And lastly, by granting amnesty to Boko Haram, the blood of those killed by Boko Haram, will be on GEJ and all those the sponsored, supported and crusaded for Boko Haram.



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Sincere 9gerian: Spare us those sentimental gibberish. The military is a highly disciplined body and the president is the commander in chief. Every command must be obeyed or else the officer'll face the music.

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No sentiment, they would take order from the president, yes.

But the impression is that both the military and innocent civilians killed, the wish of majority would be taken for granted.


Be sincere for a second, straight question ( yes or no answer ):


Do you think it's right and justified to grant amnesty to Boko Haram?



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kettykin: Amnesty with stipends might really not be bad as some of us see it if it used as a political gambit, presently the defense budget is about N900B per year which is sapping a lot of money that might be needed to boost other Areas of the Nigerian Economy . if you Bring out say N100B per year to spend on terrorist like Boko Haram/Jambs while the remaining half of the defense budget N400B goes to defense and the other half N400B is channeled back to capital projects it will help to boost economy/infrastructure .

The Big Problem is when the violence does not stop after the Amnesty and when other terrorist organisation spring up from North west or North Central.

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Meaning that amnesty is not really the solution, rather bring a complete stop to Boko Haram and use the entire money for another thing.

The bigger question is, what would GEJ grant the families of those that Boko Haram killed?

You don't negotiate with terrorist, ask Algerians that's very close.



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Sincere 9gerian: Typical of SR. Is this not the same SR that has been the mouth piece of Boko haram all the while? SR is the NUMBER ONE propagator of the activities of Boko haram.

Since the Boko haram mayhem started, no suggestion of possible ways of ending the crisis has emanated from SR. Not even one. All we read is criticisms of any strategy adopted by govt.

The conclusion that can be drawn from the attitude of SR is that they want the crisis to continue. SR is profiting from the crisis.

Even if the president had said no to amnesty to Boko haram and 99% of leaders from that region are suggesting amnesty as the way forward, it is only wise and sensible for the president to give amnesty a try. Otherwise, leaders from that region would accuse the president of being insensitive.

Again, if the leaders of the north are clamouring for amnesty, and the govt bends backwards to consider amnesty, the onus will be on the leaders in the north to persuade Boko haram members to come out from hiding and embrace amnesty.

And Why should military chiefs be enraged over amnesty? I'm sure the foot solders that die daily in this conflict wouldn't mind amnesty if that will bring peace.

Though, I'm skeptical about whether or not Boko haram will accept amnesty and peace but the leaders of the north know better. In any case, if the govt eventually grants amnesty and certain elements of Boko haram remain recalcitrant, then the president would be justified in using maximum force.

However, the security forces should be very vigilant even if the govt goes ahead to offer amnesty. This is to avoid the sect re-grouping within the period.

But my attitude has always been, if amnesty will bring relative peace and allow us to move on as a country, why not?

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Listen and listen very well, once GEJ grants amnesty to Boko Haram, the military would hands off on everything about Boko Haram and leave it to GEJ and his northern elders / leaders.


This would be the greatest mistake GEJ would make, the North can not continue to force their wish on Nigerians not minding the effect on others.

The whole of SE would stop supporting GEJ, don't say I didn't warn him. He can not count on 15% of North or SW to vote for him in next election, should he run.

The implication of granting amnesty to Boko Haram is beyond what you're thinking, it doesn't matter if they accept the amnesty or not.

Why would the northern leaders / elders insist on amnesty for Boko Haram, without condemning their activities even once?

GEJ is completely on his own, hence forth if he grants amnesty to Boko Haram



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kettykin: Did Ojukwu kill Saro Wiwa ?





General Paul Okutimo a Yoruba man killed Saro wiwa after murdering the Ogoni 4 and making Saro Wiwa look like the real murderer


http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/54938-general-paul-okuntimo-arrester-saro-wiwa-speaks-nigeria.html




http://royaldutchshellplc.com/2011/06/23/shell-and-the-murder-of-ken-saro-wiwa/

Another Yoruba man Banjamin Adekunle killed Isaac Adaka Boro

Another Yoruba man Olusegun Obasanjo and Ahmed Tinubu are seriously planning against the only president that Niger Deltans have ever produced in history

This is my last warning to Niger Deltans [size=20pt]Know your Enemy !!! [/size]

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Gbam


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kettykin: Did Ojukwu kill Saro Wiwa ?





General Paul Okutimo a Yoruba man killed Saro wiwa after murdering the Ogoni 4 and making Saro Wiwa look like the real murderer


http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/54938-general-paul-okuntimo-arrester-saro-wiwa-speaks-nigeria.html




http://royaldutchshellplc.com/2011/06/23/shell-and-the-murder-of-ken-saro-wiwa/

Another Yoruba man Banjamin Adekunle killed Isaac Adaka Boro

Another Yoruba man Olusegun Obasanjo and Ahmed Tinubu are seriously planning against the only president that Niger Deltans have ever produced in history

This is my last warning to Niger Deltans [size=20pt]Know your Enemy !!! [/size]

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Gbam


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There should be no amnesty for Boko Haram, what are they killing innocent Nigerians for?



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If GEJ tries that, the blood of all those killed by Boko Haram would on his head and all people that supported & canvassed for Boko Haram to be granted amnesty,

Amen.



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fkaz: And some people go say hausa be MUMU,ANIMAL

Den go say hausa know go school but, dem sabi waiting den they call amnesty, dem wan fill waiting Niger-delta boys dey fill,

Aboki nah 2much joor.

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I feel u real time



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This should be joke or still part of April fool.

If the presidency is looking at granting amnesty to Boko Haram for killing innocent Nigerians, it should also be looking at setting up a ministry for the families of those killed by Boko Haram.

GEJ would loose the respect and support he enjoys from other regions, and play completely into the hands of those that have been planning his down fall. Mark it, it will be the greatest mistake of his administration.



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Demdem: He is afraid to offend despite the oath he swore to protect lives and properties. So Ndigbo should be wiped off from the north completely because retardeen is afraid eh?
Don't u think if he refuses to resign due to his incompetence, he should be stoned?

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Stop buying into that, is the reason they insist on making the country ungovernable for GEJ, to either force him to resign or return power to the North by all means



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Evestar200: you are only saying dat cuz u r some how related to igbo or portharcut igbo,,if SS dare shld partner with SE and they sucide in winning biafran war,,i bet u d ijaws,itsekiri,,edo,,urhobo,,ibibio,,anang,.isoko nd d rest minor groups who are nt related to igbo or doesnt speak igbo dialect will suffer

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Who told you? You are not SS nor SE, why are you bothered about how SS/SE relate?




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ndiofeajoka: But when we tell you that you and north belong togeda in one almajiri country, you start running your mouth like diarhea in denial
so you admit that you and north are one. thanks for admitting it at last!

btw no true igbo son cares about your alliance with aboko haram north
you are militarily incapable of helping the north in a war. they know it, we know it.
your role as scarecrows in the civil war is decieving you.

you can marry the boko haram north, or even form a republic, nobody in igboland cares.
As for SS we only care about our igbo territory there.

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Ndi-ofe-ajoka



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Onlytruth: I will also add that anytime there seems to be ANY form of rapport or unity between SE and SS (Igbo and non-Igbo alike), the SW goes into a strange PANIC mode.
SWers do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to stop it: you name it, they will do it, even to the extent of masquerading as a SS person.

And you would also ALWAYS see them milling around any thread that discusses such topic, and try their best to poison it and create disunity.
There must be something dangerous to the survival of SW by SE/SS unity in Nigeria. There has to be.
That is really pathetic.

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Ogoni militant: my sister you need to open your eyes. The criticism against our president from ijaw SS are from the Yorubas they ihave been doing everything possible to pull him down. They have given him all kind of derogatory name just to rubbish him and pull him down for them to take over or their northern partners to take over, and we are playing into their hands. They are bent on creating concussion between us and the SE and it to their advantage. Look we need to open our eyes.

GEJ got the highest support during the presidential election from the SE. Come to PH or even the whole SS all the oil companies have Yorubas in the management position they have more Yorubas in all the IOC than all the region of the country put together apart from the Hausas that own the
NNPC. And you are fighting your closest neighbour. The new managing director of NLNG is a Yoruba man.

Let us think well. Someone very close to me in my town give me this statistics and I was like shocked. Let's see how many votes
GEJ will get in SW. The will hide this post watch it.

What has the Igbo man done to you? Nothing! Let's give our president support. We need to be liberated and you know we can't go it alone. There is too much injustice in Nigeria against the south south and you think we can go it alone with how many ethnic groups in the SS speaking different language. We are more disunited than any region in the country and it's a fact.

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You're aware of the SW + the Northern game, but too many SS are yet to picture what's going on or read the hand writing on the wall. SE been awake long time, the reason they're trying to confuse as many SS as possible



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One_Naira: you are deltan? This is why I continue to say the people claiming SS on this forum and speaking for the entire region are usually a wannabe SS

Dude you remember this your posts?


https://www.nairaland.com/989809/edo-gubernatorial-election-live-updates/1#11428000
Even on your profile you claimed Edo state, benin.

Now of course naturally I went back a bit farther to see if you've ever defended Delta state in the same zeal in all the numerous attack delta gets on this forum and to my surprise, you have never done so infact you've attacked delta state during the your beginning days on NL. You've insulted and ridiculed the state in your defense for SW against Beaf which now makes me start doubting whether in fact you are actually edo state at all? Ironically enough, you emit the behavior of the people whose been long outed as non SS claiming SS (i.e: jason, garri, etc) such as attacking the supposed state and region una claim while at the same time defending SW. Interesting

https://www.nairaland.com/914262/evidence-massive-dry-season-road/1#10599640
https://www.nairaland.com/malc619/posts/16
https://www.nairaland.com/malc619/posts/15

We've had jason and Garri before so you joining in or not does not really interest me. Let me guess your supposed ethnicity in delta state: Urhobo correct? if not Urhobo, probably "iteskiri" that's usually the typical ethnicity for all the SS claimers. won't be suprised of u claim either one. An advice I would give you: remember what you say or do in your past posts before laying claim to a state or even a region you might or might not belong to.

As for your BS about the Ibo soldiers in the mid-west. I'll say this: REMEMBER WHAT NIGERIAN SOLDIERS DID TO A NEUTRAL COMMUNITY I.E MY ASABA ALL BECAUSE WE ARE IGBO. Despite the fact, Asaba was not included and was not part of Biafra amd was not at that time fighting with biafra. Abeg waka commot from your crying and whining. To get any form of sympathy from me about anything that happened to any community in Nigeria is futile. I'll repeat again: DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE REGION. YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR ME (that's if you actually are SS. Judging from your first posts on NL I'm even doubting you are even SS). YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR MY BEST FRIEND, YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR MY FAMILY, NOW SPEAK FOR YOUR SUPPOSED STATE (It is not delta that's for sure), region and ethnicity. If you tell SE to speak for their people alone, I'll gradually telling you to speak for your ethnicity alone. I might (emphasis on might) share the same region with you, does not give you the right to speak on my behalf. Vice versa for me. shikena!!!!

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You should know that all of them shouting , SE leave SS out of this are from SW. They are so scared of a disintegrated Nigeria.

He is not SS, all of them are just claiming SS ( though they are SW ) to confuse the real ones from SS. We are aware of their tricks



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ocelot2006: For the love of God, why do you guys like dragging the SS into your fights? What's this SE/SS . If the SE has an issh with NE/NW, let them resolve it themselves. Let them speak for themselves.

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If you're really from SS, you would be happy he used SS/SE. Every thinking SS person has learnt his/ her lesson from the previous experience and present development.

The next war if any, would even be started b/w SS and the Core North, you should be thanking the guy for even dragging SE into it, with anticipation that SE are never onlookers and sees a threat ( or injustice ) on SS as a threat to SS/SE' ok?



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Buhari and other northern leaders / elders have to condemn the activities of Boko Haram, if they want Nigerians to take them serious.

He should stop asking for amnesty to be granted to Boko Haram for killing innocent citizens of Nigeria



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