₦airaland Forum

It's funny how petty thieves were quick to attack innocent Nigerians all in the name of retaliation. I wonder why they didn't react this way about the deaths of thousands of Nigerians and loss of property worth billions by terrorists.There's nothing in it for them I'm guessing.SMH for my country people

hakeem4:
you’re talking about faith which means to trust in something.

I presume the OP is talking about the Christian faith which means believing something without evidence

Not just Christian faith but religious faith.Religious faith is still a form of faith with or without evidence,so I decided to generalize it.It's not only religious faith that is susceptible to delusions.Scientific faith(some would outrightly state this doesn't exist) can also become delusional.

Faith is required when dealing with things,knowledge, concepts etc independent of our senses& self.Faith becomes delusional when you refuse to accept any alternate perspective that doesn't align with yours.

Tbh redeemed church building strategy is similar to domestic pests..

Lol..How gullible would you make yourself just to justify your belief?.Make this same mistake when your far away from this rest room and let me know what happened.

MariaLavina:
Lol, I will rather you do not operate under an umbrella a stained one at that.Attaching oneself to a tag means you are in support of whatever goes on in it. Fighting for human rights, elevating or empowering one goes beyond names, association or movement.Tags are cages used to direct and control simple minded beings.

To me, I prefer to be a lone wolf who is free to fight for and support whoever is in need irrespective of gender. I am human first before being a female, every lives matters. Be wise.

Hats off to you,ma'am.

Shelumiel:
Can you kindly shut up ...thank you.

Lol..I can't keep quiet and allow ignorant folks continue to wallow in ignorance.You should have known better than to showcase your immaturity and maybe,you'd have saved me the stress of correcting a big baby.

thewatcher2020:
Same process. Condemn the abuse. Move on.

He’s got a white gf or wife or Fiancée so I presume he should deal with whatever self hate he’s battling first for jumping ship to the other “good” side.

I really don’t waste my sympathy for peeps like that. Got rich, make some money or fame and become too good for our black women? Nah. Deal with it! Let them from the other side protect you.

On issues similar to this, I always check out who you breeding or laying with and if it ain’t amongst one of your own kind, I couldn’t give a f.ucck less.

Yeah, deuces to the bullshit.

What makes you any different from the racist fans being condemned? Same mentality that only breeds apprehension and colour bias.Be the change you want to see,we're all humans regardless of skin colour.Grow tf up.

Shelumiel:
A new suicide bomber has emerged ; may God help us all (amin).

Mankos:
if u like call it openside bomber, Islam will dominate the world

Condemnable comments made out of wilful and dogmatic ignorance is all I see.Free yourselves from this pitiful nature your both displaying.It's the 21st century for god's sake.

Try computer science/Educational courses in Physics/Chemistry. I don't know if you can do engineering without biology tho.If you're looking a top course then you should take GCE/Neco to replace the failed subject.

https://www.space.com/craigslist-water-heater-mad-rocket-launch.html
He didn't do it

He still hasn't done it...I thought it was actually news that he had done it

MuttleyLaff:
"Then God said,
“Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it."
- Genesis 1:26

It is disappointing that man generally and as a whole, let's excuse Naija for now from all this, struggles to prove he is powerful enough to tame, control, abate and/or harness the earth or superior enough to arrest the challenges thereof the earth.

The thing about Naija, is that almost every other country have long time ago, have left the starting blocks, dashed out. Naija is running after others, chasing them and trying to catch up, but everytime Naija thinks its caught up, it finds out that, when it gets round the blocks, others are not there and are no where in sight. Naija is an oxymoron, if not, how can a nation, richly blessed with so much, be extremely poor, have so little and lacking the means to provide things considered to be essential to make life easier and more pleasant for itself.

I wish Nigeria was trying to catch up Muttley..We wouldn't be in this chaotic state if we were playing catch up.We have instead,brought out a relaxing chair,sun glasses,an umbrella,an stack of vogue magazines and we've kicked back and relaxed.Countries like North Korea which has been held back for decades by dictators from truly reaching their full potential in this cooperative era we're in,yet they boast of Nuclear weapons that are made by themselves,not imported.What are we producing in this country Muttley? Cassava?..I don't even want to delve into the pitiful situation we find ourselves in this country.

Are you aware of an environmental campaign group called "Extinction Rebellion", the antics they've been up to and why they do what they do, hmm?

I didn't until now.I've read their manifesto and it's pretty legit

I beg to differ that science doesn't believe in a creator because it was Thomas Aquinas, the same person that considered theology to be a science because it encounters special and general revelation, who said: "To one who has faith, no explanation (i.e. of a creator God) is necessary. To one without faith, no amount of expanation is necessary"

The science Aquinas knew has evolved.Modern science demands verifiable evidence that can be tested multiple times by different people.Even as creationists and ID proponents are finding it hard to have their work labeled scientific.

I dont mind science shaking and rocking tables or shatterring glass celings, all I am bothered about, is that science should make sure, that it itself, is standing on firm and/or solid ground, when being a table shaker

Very valid point here Muttley.I made a research based on my scepticism "Is science in a hurry to have all the answers that it leaps before it looks intently?" "Can a scientist in a bid to seal a discovery he/she has been working on before death comes knocking,ignore a seemingly insignificant at the time yet huge detail?". I only got one or two articles bringing it up on the internet and I'm thinking it's either I'm being ignorant/science doesn't think about this questions much.

Science is good, science is useful, science is needed for explaining things, but science at times is meddling. Science should learn that some muddy waters are best cleared, by leaving them alone

Science should be meddling and science is everyone's duty.To be scientific is for the educated and uneducated,not only folks with college degrees in scientific fields.The waters of this universe may seem calm and pleasant at one moment but the next moment,a tsunami is upon you.The dinosaurs wouldn't be extinct if the knew the meteorites and asteroids were plunging towards earth(not a valid theory but trying to make a point) and global warming wouldn't have accelerated if crude oil wasn't discovered. It's a dilemma we face Muttley and we aren't and can't be patient enough to leave waters to clear by itself.

Political science or religious studies I guess

kowasco:
Is it true that petroleum engineering is the best engineering course in Nigeria base employment opportunities and salary

Trust me bro,petroleum engineering isn't as broad as other engineering fields when it comes to employment outside one's field.The pay is the only catch,only when you get a job in the field.

And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
Mark 2:15-16

MuttleyLaff:
We’re all, in this in world of a dark room, with an unknown Creator. Some dont give a fairk about his world of a dark room and its unknown Creator. Some want to understand this world of a dark room, and know more about with its unknown Creator. Some, very hard with torch/flash lights of some sort try to see in to unknown Creator and world of a dark room. Some others, look towards, very unusual and/or remarkable means to help them see in to unknown Creator and world of a dark room, while another others (e.g. science) thinks, fairk that extraodinary shenanigans stuff, that they, all and just by themselves, will figure out what's about the unknown Creator and whats with all this world of a dark room of ours is about.

It's disappointing we have people lots of folks who are apathetic towards curiosity of things that don't primaryly affect them.A global warming crisis is brewing and some nigerians still think the high rainfall and floods is cos God is angry with the world like in the days of Noah(true story).Developed countries are already transitioning into the age of electric cars and some Nigerians don't even know electric cars exist.Curiosity is what makes/kills a man and should be entertained regardless of the outcome.Science currently doesn't believe in a creator due to lack of scientifically verifiable evidence and science starts from knowledge 0 and hopes to build and organize till level 70-100,regardless of the eons it may take to achieve this. Modern science is what shook the foundations of religion&dogma and imbibing the scientific culture in currently religious countries would also shake the foundations of religion&dogma in such countries(hopefully Nigeria is one of them).

Simply put,science aims to shake tables and shatter glasses,if it has to

LoJ:
What I considered fake news was not that the star exists! That is not what I called fake news.

The fake news in that article is that, they pretend the Star is older than the universe which is not scientifically established.

They fail to indicate the margin of error, but rather claim directly that the Star is older than the universe. THAT, MY FRIEND, IS FAKE AND DECEITFUL. and that is what I called fake news.

Their failure to indicate the possible errors in measurement is kinda shitty I admit but that doesn't mean it(this discovery) doesn't put the big bang theory under the microscope with/without the give and take.It doesn't mean the entire article is fake but poor journalism/exaggeration for effect maybe.

Now, are you claiming the specific article in question, did not provide total information and was deceitful?

I agree that author of the article wasn't entirely honest with the numbers but it doesn't invalidate the article.A personal research(essential) would provide one with the +-0.8 billion years not included which only supports the current age of the universe at -0.5 to 0.8 billion years which is a thin gap really,so its actually huge.Here's another article still pointing in the same direction,the author was also quoted by the "fake source" in the "fake article".Read the text below the first image.

Take note of the credentials of the author at the end of the article

@OP you should attach the photo of this amazing individual(it's on google)..This achievement deserves front page recognition. Good one for Nigeria

Fynestboi,Richiez,olawalebabs,Lalasticlala

MuttleyLaff:
Science that one minute will tell you the cause of something is down to mental illness then few years down the line will say, no, it's actually because of another thing. Science doesn't want to admit, it's chasing a carrot on a stretched out long stick.

The fruit would have "eventuarry" be eaten, only if they had sit it out and managed the last hour it was eaten, then we would have had all knowledge at our finger tips and be doing all these second guesses and groping blindly in the dark.

Lol I did get you . I believe science is hinged on curiosity which is the progress/death of any being.The fact is that science usually doesn't really have any facts but theories which can be applied to a large extent with as much success rate as something considered a fact.People who see science as a supreme source of knowledge are the ones distorting the purpose of science which is just curiosity about the natural world until we reach omniscience(we may never get there).

LoJ:
In your last post, that's not what you said. You said it is known for a long time, which I agree and never questioned.

Your misquoting me LoJ..I said that the Methuselah has been known( as a very old star )for a long time by scientists but was only recently aged 14.5 billion years +- 800 million years.So it's not that the media just made up the whole thing up to disprove big bang in anyway.Not many scientific folks are really bothered by the news cos of the inaccuracies associated with calculation of the age of stars but it makes one raise an eyebrow about the well accepted age of the universe and models used to calculate the age of stars.

the rest, other have already replied to this. If you don't want to learn, there is nothing I can do because your mind is already biased.

Lol. You seem to be the biased one here tbh.The articles aren't facts LoJ and I should know that but you don't just discard it like it's some entertainment news of some sort.

The fact remains that this star does not contradict the Big bang theory in any way.

It actually wouldn't be news(at all) if it didn't create a stir even the tiniest bit to the astronomical world.It is unlike a scientific mind not to be open to change which seems to be the vibe your giving.

MuttleyLaff:
If we still don't know, don't know all, don't know everything, etcetera was it then worth the effort of eating the fruit before time, is what I am wondering and/or asking

I get you now..Well science doesn't work that way even tho people seem to think it so and even some science fanatics sometimes give off that "we have all the cards" vibe.I'm actually interested in finding out more about this discovery because it rocks the science world a bit but it's also exaggerated by media with their "shocking headlines".It would encourage a rethink about models and well known theories about the age of the universe or the stars which is a very welcome activity in the science world.
Eating the fruit before it's time is also one of my greatest fears,that peharps we string ourselves on for so long that it becomes difficult to reverse the harm it causes.For example,depletion of the ozone layer and global warming.
It's a dilemma we find ourselves in when determining when it's time for the fruit to the harvested/eaten because the fruit may just have prevented something catastrophic from happening irrespective of the due time.
I hope I actually understood what you meant tho.

MuttleyLaff:
Maybe the Wise Men from the East, who used their knowledge of the stars, to lead them to Jesus Christ had long gone before been aware of this discovery

We are in this dark room trying to understand it and its "unknown" Creator. EmperorHarry, we'll always have known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns. Is everything at all, is it at all looking back, and in hindsight now, worth the price of eating the fruit, ahead of time, hmm?

I don't quite understand @bolded..

LoJ:
Did I claim otherwise?

LoJ:
Do not trust anything written on the internet, there is a lot of fake news flying around.

The Methuselah star is not older than the alleged age of the universe, according to big bang theory. It is one of the oldest for sure, but does not contradict the the theory.

I am not saying the big bang must be right, but in this case it is a fake news, propagated by people who want to invalidate a scientific theory by unscientific means.

So I'm saying you should check verified sources to confirm that its not fake news.

LordReed:
Yes I saw it. I am watching to see how it develops. One thing about science is it gives room for expanded knowledge.

I agree.I'm also waiting for end result,which may take years.

LoJ:
Do not trust anything written on the internet, there is a lot of fake news flying around.

The Methuselah star is not older than the alleged age of the universe, according to big bang theory. It is one of the oldest for sure, but does not contradict the the theory.

I am not saying the big bang must be right, but in this case it is a fake news, propagated by people who want to invalidate a scientific theory by unscientific means.

By the way, the Big bang theory is a theory. At the moment it is confirmed by most observations and experiments about the universe. If scientists find new evidence that the theory is false, they will discard the theory and formulate new ones.

That's how science works. No one, except religious people, want the particular theory to be right or wrong.

You could check wiki's list of oldest stars.Methuselah is not a new discovery but it's age is and scientists have been aware of it's existence for more than 50 years now.

hakeem4:
Methuselah star is not older than the universe. Astronomers estimated that the star was born about 14.5 billion years ago, ± 800 million years which is nearly consistent with the age of universe as 13.7 billion years.

according to the man who discovered it Howard Bond said:

The age of the universe is approximately 13.8 billion years before this discovery,which means the age of Methuselah without the give or take makes it older than the approximated age of the universe.13.7 billion years still makes Methuselah almost as old as the universe which is a big deal,because there may be/have been stars older than Methuselah unknown.

Who else is aware of this discovery?


Cc Budaatum,hakeem4,LordReed

Budaatum with the Rationality and Sanity

YorubaMuslims:
You should know what ''reality'' means

Pardon my misdirected questions..I actually meant to juxtapose the reality of Hi to a conversation with "God" that would seemingly trump a Hi if it's actually true which your clearly not seeing.

[quote author=YorubaMuslims post=81056667][/quote]Lol..that's deep but don't believers hear God talking to them? Isn't that more than a hi?

I had to undo a hack on a friend's account last year through this link thingy.The best way to secure it,is by listing 3rd party FB contacts(close family and friends) that would contacted in case your locked out.Most Nigerian fb hackers aren't smart enough to know such option exists.