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I see the "eye" you seem to be talking about but it's your delusion anyways. OpenYourEyes1 here ya go buddy!

I thought this sh!t wasn't a thing anymore

Here's the pitiful IQ representation of countries in 2002..I've been in denial for a while now cos this is disappointing but y'all come here and blame religion not realizing we(as a continent) need to intellectually develop first and with time,religion would evolve into something much better or discarded all together.

The all-round prosperity of said non religious countries is a myopic point of view.Economic,scientific,technological prosperity has nothing to do with religion to a very large extent.The America of today didn't just come about because they became less religious,it was years of development and a need for progress even when they were the most religious.Israel is more technically advanced than USA only with less resources.Saudi Arabia,Qatar,Kuwait all religious countries making a name for themselves with the development encouraged in certain areas and we Africans sit back on our primitive looking nairaland forums(no offence) and play the blame game.I'm sick of it tbh

The problem of Africa is Africans.. We aren't ready to progress as a whole,discarding all tribal,religious, political and personal differences

johnydon22:
The type of nonsense you guys post here these days is the stuff of weed

Lmao..As in
I'd advise you don't stress yourself on the delusive nature of the OP post..It's rhetorical which ultimately leads you to the link(if you didn't check it out)

Pvssy:
Drink irresponsibly

And see what runs through your mind when you dead drunk.

You will be closer to the realms that you evolve around.

Dude there are drugs that can do that with as little as one tablet

Lol..Perhaps a revolution similar to the French revolution would suffice?

TheSociopath:
This is a google calculator siding with the phone calculator and the blog's answer

It's decided then.I've found the google calculator useful because androids default cal. calculates in radians when it comes to trigonometric ratios and inverses.That's why I suggested the use of Google.

The root of religion is the fear of the uncertain.Isn't that what drives fear in all areas of life?

Slaving away 9-5 for crumbs is driven by the fear of the uncertain...It takes a personal choice to be free from fear of the uncertain and even still you can't really be free from fear.People cling unto anything that provides a degree of certainty.For atheists it's science and for theists it's God and religion. Take away God and religion and that fear of uncertainty would be replaced by something I hope wouldn't be far worse.

Most likely the first due to Bodmas rules but I also wouldn't advise you to trust the default android calculator due to it's errors.. Try using google calculator as the decider if you don't have an actual physical Casio cal.

Not believing this sh!t until verified sources confirm it..Y'all bloggers and fake news sha.

MuttleyLaff:
God will be whatever is necessary for God to be and I find it interesting that in spite of God not just about a he/she/it, God does choose to be addressed, seen and perceived as a He. Why is that?

Not sure Muttley tbvh if we are basing this convo on the Abrahamic religious version of God.Do you?

I'd have said that it was as a result of the gender biased and influenced writers of the scriptures but I don't want to go down that lane rn.

Bernie Sanders: ‘I think everyone believes in God in their own ways. To me, it means that all of us are connected … and that we are all tied together.’ If every God hating mofo could read this and understand that God's not just about a he/she/it that controls existence.They'd realise how myopic they really are.I've been literally thinking of summing up a write up about this.

internationalman:
What are you trying to say

Uhmm..Nothing apparently otherwise you won't be asking

MuttleyLaff:
Same thumbs up to the artists here too, its not an awful song, its just unsurprisingly mediocre and which is why I marked it 4.95 out of 10

LMAO I'm thinking 3/10 and that's just cos of the beat

internationalman:
I bet you would get the hype about Brownskingirl that sounds like a nursery school poem

Nah bruh..Brown Skin Girl is an anthem without blue Ivy "nursery school" sound.I had to cut the song to just wizkid and Beyonce.Don't compare it to this overly auto tuned song..Don't disrespect good vibes.

Thumbs up to the artist but I still don't get the hype about this awful song.

MuttleyLaff:
We aren't going in circles EmperorHarry. Let me explain what seems to be the problem with your hang up. It is that you dont want to appreciate that the scripture were never in the first place divided and so chopped up into chapters and verses. The top level view was given from Genesis 1:1 up until Genesis 2:3, then a low level overview began to start from Genesis 2:4, where description of more specific and individual components of creation, attention shifted from the macro to micro, with concern and focus on the garden is presented.

Why did Genesis 1 put Man as the last creation but Genesis 2 says man named all the animals as God created them which removes man from the end of the creation chain.Conflicting accounts Muttley,...Just logically explain this to me.

Has the EmperorHarry moniker ID account being temporarily hacked to make this comment

Lol Maybe...I've always agreed with you that Eve is very important in the creation story just as important as Adam and Genesis 1 corroborates that.

"You dont know these guys like I do. I know everything about each and everyone of them. I know how they think, know how and what they breathe, know when and how they sleep, know what they eat, know when and how they like eating, know when they fart and shiit, know the color of their shiits sef

I kept telling and reminding them that, I not only, mounted this dragon beast, rode and tamed it, but I also, slayed it too, then after killing it, I dissected it, to find out what the dragon beast's been feeding on, and that this is how I got to know, with the help of the Holy Spirit, so much about this subject matter and them too. I was waiting for each of them round the corner. You see, in situations like this, you bide your time, smoke people out, draw them into the open, then either get hold of them with the belt of their trousers or get a wrist hold of them and/or pin them down so they dont have any easy chance to escape or try to evade capture. Going for the jugular, would be a last resort."
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:24pm On Jun 09

I'm fully aware of this reply Muttley and I reckon you still unknowingly and unjustly label me ignorant of the purpose of that thread.

As I have said, I've had loads of experiences with all manner of those guys and you dont know what my strategies and/or tactics were for the thread, but never mind that, so what exactly do you disagree with me on.

I disagree with you unknowingly and unjustly labeling me ignorant of the purpose of that thread.My questioning of your premises doesn't mean I don't know what your point was.I just needed a definitive summary that showed you knew your sh!t.A 25+ page thread makes an OP look clueless tbvh Muttley.

If you really think you understood the purpose of that thread, then why dont you put your money where your mouth is and tell what you understood the purpose of that thread was

Deconstructing............Same Sex Union...It seems pretty clear to anyone reading the subject what the purpose of the thread was..If it took 25 pages to Deconstruct it then you would admit you had a really huge mountain to overcome which was redefining what seemed as a literal meaning from a new perspective.This was why it up in this convo and quite frankly,this seems to be dragging this thread.

MuttleyLaff:
You're correct it didnt. It gave a top level view narration, only to go into granular details in the subsequent chapter(s)

Lol..It seems we could keep going round in circles Muttley...I rest my case

Whether you like to accept and agree or not, Eve is the symmetrical side of Adam. She gives the creation, man, balance, dimension and a comparative relationship of parts, she adds a sense of harmony and beauty to the whole creation. It is an insult to say or see Eve as the leftover

I agree with you here and Genesis 1 also agrees with you.

At least you'll find out classification has there from the beginning and so return back to thank me later

"This thread was opened to first and initially respond to the questions TV0I & Shèpherd00 put to me, after which it becomes a vehicle, with which to gradually deconstruct the perpetrated lies, deliberately misinterpreted bible texts, and expose the myth that adult homosexuality/same sex union is evil and/or threatening

Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons. The time is now, if ever there is a time to rightly divided the Word of truth. It's just that the light of the truth, can be harsh to those that have been far too long in the dark."
- Page 01, Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 1:02pm On Jun 02

You're ignorant of why that thread was opened, you're ignorant of the strategies and/or tactics I used on the thread. There are quite more you're ignorant about of that thread but I wont bother go in to them.

I disagree with you here Muttley.I understood the purpose of that thread and I don't see why you think otherwise.

MuttleyLaff:
There is no second creation, what you perceive to be a second creation, is the low level view narration, as in, meat to bones, as was earlier said.

The 1st chapter of genesis didn't restrict God's creation to a garden.Let's not kid ourselves here

I am glad you do, get my point. I know you understand what "pièce de résistance" means. Now if you accept that "pièce de résistance", often means, the last in a series of things and ending up to be best and most important thing, you wouldnt be trying a tug of war with me over sequence. Nobody is changing the order in which Eve appeared EmperorHarry, but saying that Eve was certain to happen, she had a certain role to play, she was was unavoidable and so was no afterthought. From the word go, she was in the initial plan of God

All I'll say here is that Genesis 2 can be interpreted subjectively.While you see Eve as the "pièce de résistance",some other folks see Eve as the leftover.This wouldn't be so if Genesis 1 account was the only source.

"²⁰And God said, “Let the waters teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the sky.”
²¹So God created the great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters teemed according to their kinds, and every bird of flight after its kind. And God saw that it was good
²⁴And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, land crawlers, and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so.
²⁵God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that crawls upon the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good"
- Genesis 1:20-21, 24-25

https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/fYwAAOSwtglcaSNN/s-l225.jpg
"I am currently reading this book (i.e. Sapiens - A Brief History of Mankind), it's a book by Yuval Noah Harari
Yuval Noah Harari is that Hebrew professor. Sapiens - A Brief History of Mankind, is a very enthralling book but you might need to spit out bones. I am still in the twenties page of a 400+ page book."
- Re: Do You Realise That We Don't Really Exist? by MuttleyLaff: 9:56am On Jun 04, 2015

Oh no EmperorHarry, no, no, no, no. No. That is classification right before you, in Genesis 1:20-21, 24-25. Classification obviously started from the beginning, while evolution was still tying up its boot laces and yet strapping on its boot. If you dont find Genesis 1:20-21, 24-25 convincing, then I recommend you read that Prof's above mentioned book for a leg-up on "kinds"

I'll check it out during my leisure time.

I am an ever advocate of questioning because enquiring minds want to know. No believer worth his/her salt will harbour fear about the scripture not being infallibility. Permit me to let you on to what makes the scripture capable of making mistakes or being wrong. Greed, filthy lucre, political and differing theology, heresies, idolatry, schisms, deliberate theological errors etcetera are catalysts for making Bible translations that have mistakes, that are wrong, that are lies, that have original word contents changed from their real and genuine meanings etcetera.

Bible translations made where cast iron facts, are viewed as irrelevant or less important than indoctrinations, deliberate and calculated lies, personal beliefs and opinions makes people cast aspersions on scripture

There are very literal meanings to biblical chapters and this my friend is the more accepted perspective by the majority.If it wasn't so,you wouldn't have had to drag out a 25 pages+ thread with Shepherd and co.

MuttleyLaff:
That is what straddling means

No to me tho..If every human endeavored to keep an open mind,the world will be a better place.Don't you think Muttley?

There is a lot we all are ignorant about, yet we still are excessively conceited and absorbed in oneself to believe that we are more intelligient, more knowing, more wiser, more better than God

The entirety of our ignorance of the universe(living, nonliving, phenomena,dark matter,past,present,future etc) is the path to understanding God. You can't say you know me just because you know my name.That's just foolishness and as such possiblianism is for those humble enough to acknowledge the vanity in what we call knowledge about God or this thing called life.

LoJ:
This is never what I said nor implied.

Moreover, it is better to be in darkness and be aware of it, then search for light, than pretending one is in the light to the point of believing it.

Lol..He knows what you meant

MuttleyLaff:
Correction, possibilianism neither supports theism or religious doctrines and atheism but straddles a middle, exploratory ground.

Lol..It does support theism only indirectly because it entertains multiple ideas and as such one can be a theist and a possibilian.The only difference is that one is open minded enough to accommodate new ideas regardless of the views one holds.Possibilianism advocates for noncommittal attitude to mainstream philosophies especially God related ones due to the vastness of our ignorance.

Just as LoJ said, a possibilian is a groper, but one searching blindly in darkness

There ya go..This in my opinion is your take on possibilianism.

Disney,just like Facebook has succeeded in stifling the competition.Acquisitions of Marvel and Fox were the defining moments.

MuttleyLaff:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727795.300-beyond-god-and-atheism-why-i-am-a-possibilian/

PS: I left my reply to "Is Woman The Initial Plan Of God?" on the back burner but hope to finish with it by today's PM

Aii bruv..I'm waiting.
Here's a long shot tho, I'm just wondering what your take is on this philosophy "possibilianism" since it neither wholly supports theism nor religious doctrines?

LoJ:
@emperorharry

This is a nice write up. A possibilian as described in this article is also what is called in esoteric circles, a researcher (of Truth).

It's not my write up tho(in case you didn't know)..I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have the stamina to write this out but it encompasses everything I stand for so I thought it best to share it with those who are open minded enough.Life is too broad and complicated to be comfortable with having just one perspective.

budaatum:
Are you asking if you are allowed to use all the tools available to you and even cheat and ask a friend?

If so, the answer is, you must.

Lol You misunderstand me.I'm asking if it's a question you can't find on the internet so I know that the providers of the correct answer didn't have the all knowing site as an assistant.

budaatum:
Here's a trick question for everyone. How much would be in a vault of a 40 year old who put in a pound every month they lived?

paypal £100 to the right answer. Muttley is excluded.

Is this ingenious and google proof?

MuttleyLaff:
I am sorry if my first post came across to you, as scathing and razor-edged. That wasnt the intention, it's nothing personal aimed at you, but just me being blunt.

It's all good Muttley.A wise man appreciates correction when he errs.

Now what you perceive as different account by different people, is a case of, just adding flesh to the bones account

I knew you'd say this but a comparison between both account would show the irregularities such as in what order creation was intended by God.Was the garden of eden a second creation?

Now I guess you are going to turn out to be among those who believe that Adam was then first created, as a hermaphrodite, hmm?

What kinda dumbasses would believe something so ludicrous? I get your point here but it doesn't change the sequence in which male and female were created and the part Eve came to play.

You leave the best for the last. The woman, God's masterpiece, is the most memorable accomplishment of God's creation career or lifeeris what I am driving at. She from the word go, has always been part of God's plan

This is seems a more appealing cover-up story.The literal understanding is what most people are exposed to and it shapes most activities under religion.

You should be convinced about the infallibility of the bible, but not translations etcetera

When the time comes,I'll let you know.

Much ado over nothing. Look towards genus/genera, thats how it was done by Noah.

There wasn't any classification for animals back then Muttley.

There is nothing untoward in the genealogy of Jesus from Matthew and Luke. If you know the genealogy of Jesus from Matthew and Luke, you know. Who no know, no go know. Its as simple as that EmperorHarry.

Muttley this is the same thing that made me apathetic towards conversations with Christians over contradictions in a supposedly infallible book.I'm in no way disrespecting the literary foundations of Christianity but maybe,just maybe some things need questioning. I also know that the greatest fear of the advocate for scriptural infallibility is that once a scripture is deemed fallible,all it's contents are susceptible to ridicule.

MuttleyLaff:
[s]EmperorHarry, please stop being melodramatic and start being clear and sensible,[/s] like:
1/ Who is the co-author of the creation story that needs to be flogged mercilessly you're talking about?

Well Muttley it so happens that there are different accounts by different people in the bible and as such there are contradictory passages that aim to illustrate a particular occurrence or occasion but with slight/major irregularities.

2/ Where did you learn that God created only the male version of his most prized creation?

I actually made an effort to eliminate this misinterpretation but decided not to.Genesis 2 from 3 or 4 is the second account of the creation story centered around a garden of eden which wasn't in the initial account in 1 and part of 2.God created man to keep and dress the garden and after sometime observed that Adam was lonely and in need of companionship.This suggests that Adam was created first and not the same time as Eve.This can be used to corroborate gender inequality from a biblical stance which is a shame really.

3/ Where have you put God's pièce de résistance, the best, most important and exciting thing created by God ever walking, hmm?

I dunno Muttley,you tell me?.I don't get what your driving at.

4/ How do you mean, Genesis chapter 2 brings about unnecessary confusion and in your opinion needs to be discarded, hmm?

A confusion that made the OP ask such questions and I'm not convinced about the infallibility of the bible.

5/ What "similar to this (contradictory accounts) can be found in other parts of the bible" are you referring to or talking of here, hmm?

The number of animals that should enter the ark before the great flood.The genealogy of Jesus from Matthew and Luke.This is off the top of head but you can google about this for more examples.

In my opinion, the co-author of the creation story needs to be flogged mercilessly for trying to undermine the importance of women due to the societal ideologies at the time.A God can't make all things with the male and female model even flowered plants and then create only the male version of his most prized creation.Does that sound reasonable even to you of supposed insignificant intelligence when compared to a being with the God title.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis:1:27

Now the 2nd account of creation story in CH 2 had a much needed storyline involving the serpent and the fall of man hence it's addition to the bible.This chapter brings about this unnecessary confusion and in my opinion needs to be discarded.Something similar to this(contradictory accounts) can be found in other parts of the bible.Choose wisely

Tick Tock Jnr.We are waiting.

God Bless.

1.Pastors that use drugs on their victims
2.Pastors with high libido and lack self control
3.Pastors that don't have jobs and lurk around dark/shady places
4.Pastors that live around you.
5.Pastors that prey on unconscious/unaware victims
6.Pastors that are alcoholic coupled with high libido
7.Pastors that work in the same organization as you.
In conclusion,all rapists are Pastors.

A much needed sarcastic assessment due to the misleading subject.
Creating awareness is commendable but do so without misleading people in the process.