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MadamVanessa:





Serve her right.


The foolishness of some Christians is out of this world. Even though I am a christian, but I can't join the bandwagon of this stupid folks.

You're a Christian, Instead of worshiping your God and let others do their traditional things In peace, you want to intrude and destroy other people's place of worship.

Even Paul the apostle that was more filled with the holy spirit, got to Athens and noticed that the people were worshipping idols instead of God, he never destroyed it or burnt their idols,but instead he preached the gospel of Christ to them and the word which Paul gave to them touched them and they repented hence they brought their idols to Paul's feet and asked him to burn it for them.

How will us Christians feel if our churches is been destroyed or burnt down. Let's respect other people's belief. Before Christianity came to our land, our forebearers operated traditional religion and it's the best of all religion.


One thing I love much about our traditional god is that there's no delay In serving you hot hot if you go contrary .

Alhajiemeritus:
Salam Alaykum Warahmatullah Sir. Your last statement is the stance of Mudeer Markaz, but some scholars attacked him for it.

Tomek09:
Wrong. 12 headslamming idiots were killed in Anambra and that's the consequences of attacking and burning Igbo businesses in the North .

Tomek09:
Islam is religion of terror and violence.

Continue resting Deborah

ebuka440:
Islamabad

ANTIlSLAM:
As an empty vessel someone called you, never will u understand

ANTIlSLAM:
Kofeso Islam don finish you kpatakpata

Shaikh Empi.ree, wallah those people who are in this category as the pastor above, if you dig deeper, you will most likely find the following:
1. No strong Islamic foundation. Without this, everything else crumbles.
2. A case of parroting those around. My shaikh said, my Imam said, etc
3. There is no tafakkur concerning their lives, their hearts, the Quran they read - if any at all, what they are told/fed, etc.
4. Mechanical understanding of the Quran. Non-inquisitive nature as to what they read and why they read it.
5. Little to zero research on deen.

Very true. Christianity was a later development.
SIH will not accord you any importance. I have seen the arrogance ooze in his speeches and relations with other people.
He recently said that no one can go any higher that where he has in his eschatological scholarship!

Is he going to say that he is not aware of Allah's vehemence against trinity in the Quran?
Thank God, the trinity ayahs are clear even for the lay man to understand and don't require Ta'wil.
He desperately wants his views to fit but that's not how Allah operates.
Surah At-Takwir Q81:29 Allah says: "You shall not will except as Allah wills......"

movado19:
How could (he) be referring to Nabi Ibrahim A.S.? Are they saying that he is the one who named us Muslims in the Quran? How?
What other verses and ahadith do they have in support of this?

SIH has become what some could term the PR machine for the orthodox christians - I have seen several times his mild and overtly friendly manner towards them and his harshness towards the muslims. This he doesn't hide.
He recently - in an interview in the UK - spoke with three men and he told them that: "There are more sheep and cattle in Islam than in Christianity!" This is no different from someone displaying his family members in the public to be ridiculed! What for?

Empiree:
I have requested for short lecture on the verse explained by Sheikh Mubarak. Hopefully I get it soon.

movado19:
Yes, I also saw Shaikh Hassan Ali's rebuttal of SIH. There are other scholars who have also called his attention to what he's uttered but he insists that he is right and the ummah is/has been blind all along.

In all honesty, he says that but then doesn't leave room for others to ask him questions that seem challenging. When this happens, he gets into a fit which is not okay for anyone, how much more a scholar.

Correct. The tashkeels are the ruh which power each letter consonant; as without them, they are just potentials. They cannot be divorced from the letters orally or in written form, therefore, when reciting the Quran, one will hear their presence and also when written, one will see their presence.
Hence the beauty of being able to correctly verify what one hears by seeing and verify what one sees by hearing.

Honestly, I thought I did not hear him right all this while until he explicitly made it clear once more in this video on his stance about the Ummah of Rasul Allah S.A.W. to be ruled by those whom Allah has expressedly said DO NOT BELEIVE!
According to him in this video (from the 1:01:04 mark):


"We have an obsession with rule as Muslims. But Our job is NOT TO RULE!
We are the ummah of Al Firdaws and IF you want Al Firdaws, BE PREPARED NOT TO RULE, BUT TO BE RULED!"


This is more than gross error. This is a travesty in its full glory! How he deduced this falsity from the Quran is beyond comprehension.
Exactly! What then is the purpose of Islam?
Why then all the sacrifices of Muslims all these thousands of years?
Why don't we all pack up and swing to the "ruling" party till judgement day?
Is he saying that Allah is not just? Nauzubillah!
Allah says in the same Surah Al-Imran Q3:19 Inna deena 'inda Allahi-l- Islam (the deen recognized by Allah is Islam)......

movado19:
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Nabi Isa A.S. was never sent to a specific ummah, as you've rightly pointed out and the way I see it, SIH is trying his best to construct a line of best fit by fiddling with the data points and axial scales! This just forces the plot/chart to fit the story.

I would like @ Shaikh AlBaqir or anyone else who is versed in grammar to kindly come do an exposition on this Ayah (Q43:61), with respect to the connective particle WAAW, when he is chanced.

movado19:
Salam Alaikum to Everyone.

I have a few questions for @ Shaikh Em.piree and to others who are into the study of Islamic Eschatology;

1. What is your view/take on the statement made by Shaikh Imran Hosein about Surah Zukhruf Q43:61; regarding the Tashkeel - Diacritics (kasra) INSTEAD of (fatha), so La'alamun and NOT La'ilmun, according to him?

2. He mentioned that:
- The Quran is safeguarded but not the Tashkeels, because these were not promised to be safeguarded by Allah.
His reason for this is that when the revelations descended and then got written, it never came along with tashkeels and that
the tashkeels got input much later for ease for the non-Arab (Ajami) muslims.
- The Tashkeel (kasra) for that particular word (La'ilmun) is "BOGUS" and "FALSE", as shaitan/or dajjal may/could have influenced this.

3. According to him, there is NO Quran copy in existence that has the right Tashkeel, so Muslims across generations have been reading the wrong word.

Then, how is his statement on the BOGUS/FALSE input by shaitan and dajjal in light of the following Ayahs by Allah in the Quran: stand?

A. Surah Al-Hijri Q15:09.
B. Surah Al-Shuara Q26:210-212.
C. Surah Al-Waqia Q56:77-80.
D. Surah Al-Burooj Q85:21-22.

I personally can understand if he said that he decided to use one of the Qira'at (readings) of the Quran to support his eschatological deduction/reasoning, (which he somewhat alluded to by mentioning the reading of Abbass (R.A.) ,however....

Here is his latest talk, though he's done others in the past regarding this same subject.
Thank you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Rm5cCwbeI

Halo22:
I thought IPOB has earlier denied complicity in the case of killings all over the East, so why then is CAN dragging the group?

Idiko1:
The so-called CAN (Christian Association of Nigeria) is noted idiotic organization. How on hell did these goons determine the UGM (Unknown Gun Men) are members of IPOB? They foolishly buried their psychotic heads in the sand when dealing with the knowns such as the Islamic zealots from the northern region of Nigeria who had just murdered a young girl who happened to be a Christian.

SATANICALLY:
Photo credit.. Daily Trust...

https://twitter.com/daily_trust/status/1529429921990430720?s=19[/quote]"unknown gunmen" or Christian fundamentalists?

SecretAgent7706:
https://punchng.com/killings-stop-criminality-can-warns-ipob/

Maryloveth:
Daily gathering of.......

caracas:
Stop been foolish, the killing in the east was not in any way religious. They were killed by established criminals cos they were northerners n not for been Muslims…..
Like I said earlier both are very condemnable but religious killings usually takes the headlines n gets more attention…..

mcquin:
I will forgive your ignorance.

mcquin:
You should be decent enough to know this is a public forum where courtesy demand you exhibit decorum in passing your message. I quoted you without resorting to insult, that is the least I had expected from you. You were wrong and instead of admitting it, you still pride yourself in ignorance. I took your words literally, you used the word "jail" not "detention." For your information, they do not mean the same thing and you are speaking to a lawyer.

That said you are still wrong because the police cannot keep a person in detention for more than 48 hours without charging the person to court. So he cannot just be cooling off in jail detention. Quote me when you have confirmed this position with a lawyer.

IME1:
Kai see as you just misquote Bible... would you let a Christian misquote your Quran like this?
Don't be a hypocrite.

Write and stick it on your wall -

"Do, think and say unto others just what you would want for yourself"


I've a copy of the Quran in English but why will I be quoting it? I can only read it. I'm not trained in Islam to fully understand the verses. Even if you were once a Christian or you did CRK, don't misquote the Bible YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN!
I can't even quote the Bible without the leading of the Holy Spirit.
Do you know that you can only get understanding and true interpretation of the Bible by the Holy Spirit?
If not you'd read it like fiction or motivational book.

When we did Literature in secondary school, we were made to analyse poems and assume what the poet meant and what he meant to portray. But imagine if that poet where to come to our class back then himself and tell us? Would it be the same?

Brother, do not misquote the Bible.

Jesus died for you and I and all humanity even while we were in sin.
His death and resurrection has brought salvation.
Now you decide if you pick up this ticket to renewed relationship and reconciliation with God our Creator, which was lost in the garden of Eden,
Or you decide not to pick the freeeeee ticket Jesus is given to eternal life and you choose the broad way that leads to eternal damnation.

No one can come to the Father except through Me (Jesus Christ).

I believe this and I've accepted this message and urge you and others who have not, to accept this simple but powerful message and invitation to eternal life

caracas:
This killing is different in the sense that it was done by criminals , it’s more of a problem of insecurity unlike the Lynching of Deborah that was perpetuated by the society n ordinary ppl not criminals…..
Both of them are very condemnable but any religious killing attracts more condemnation….

J3susFr3ak:
Jesus loves you Empiree. He died for your sins to give you the only Hope for heaven! Never you "forget aboutrit"

Thanks.